Beware Alert - belinda27

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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UKPosts: 14,238
    pdalowsky said:
    lot of people don't seem to understand the potential implications of mental illness. it can lead to impulsive behaviour, which can mean she no longer has the cash nor the means to make good on the goods. being able to log into an account does not equate to be a functional human being. 

    as F Me said, not excusing, but these things can be a complex set of circumstances. 
    I’m a psychologist. I understand perfectly well the ramifications of mental illness. There is also the more than likely possibility this person is a conn artist. 
    Having 'known Belinda' for many years I would confidently state that she is far from a con artist. She was a well known collector, and trader, and buyer and seller for many many years. There were a few occasions where things went wrong a few years ago, and threads started here and it was a worry for many but she did make good in the end. It was inexcusable to be honest, as communication is vital - and just to contact someone when having taken their money is the very least that could be expected. However things were made right and everyone moved on. 

    Belinda has clearly had a significant relapse here and I am not making excuses for her at all but I wouldn't ever describe her as a con artist. There is quite obviously something very wrong which we are not aware of. I do not believe however she ever set out to scam people here. 

    I just hope against all hope that she makes good on her deals again. People have sent significant sums of cash, and those goods just need to be shipped. If there is a funding issue in paying for shipping, it would be helpful if she could just let people know. Or if she isn't capable presently of sending those items out then ask a support worker to assist, or a member of family. There are ways to deal with this. 

    I have a very good friend out a couple of grand on this and I know he is astounded at how its gone, and beyond frustrated at the ability to get any sort of response as to either having his cash returned or his items sent. 

    I am going to reach out to her again and see if i can help get this situation resolved in any way. Even if its to help with the shipping fees or whatever, but just getting a line drawn would be such a relief for all the buyers who laid out hard earned cash. 
    This is not meant to be sarcastic or insensitive, but maybe you don’t know her as well as you think you did? Being “well known” and “knowing her” are two different things. This women has been having credibility problems for years. That is something everyone agrees on.
    You are quite likely right sir. I always try to see the good in people, and that isnt always a good thing. 
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain…Posts: 13,295
    pdalowsky said:
    pdalowsky said:
    lot of people don't seem to understand the potential implications of mental illness. it can lead to impulsive behaviour, which can mean she no longer has the cash nor the means to make good on the goods. being able to log into an account does not equate to be a functional human being. 

    as F Me said, not excusing, but these things can be a complex set of circumstances. 
    I’m a psychologist. I understand perfectly well the ramifications of mental illness. There is also the more than likely possibility this person is a conn artist. 
    Having 'known Belinda' for many years I would confidently state that she is far from a con artist. She was a well known collector, and trader, and buyer and seller for many many years. There were a few occasions where things went wrong a few years ago, and threads started here and it was a worry for many but she did make good in the end. It was inexcusable to be honest, as communication is vital - and just to contact someone when having taken their money is the very least that could be expected. However things were made right and everyone moved on. 

    Belinda has clearly had a significant relapse here and I am not making excuses for her at all but I wouldn't ever describe her as a con artist. There is quite obviously something very wrong which we are not aware of. I do not believe however she ever set out to scam people here. 

    I just hope against all hope that she makes good on her deals again. People have sent significant sums of cash, and those goods just need to be shipped. If there is a funding issue in paying for shipping, it would be helpful if she could just let people know. Or if she isn't capable presently of sending those items out then ask a support worker to assist, or a member of family. There are ways to deal with this. 

    I have a very good friend out a couple of grand on this and I know he is astounded at how its gone, and beyond frustrated at the ability to get any sort of response as to either having his cash returned or his items sent. 

    I am going to reach out to her again and see if i can help get this situation resolved in any way. Even if its to help with the shipping fees or whatever, but just getting a line drawn would be such a relief for all the buyers who laid out hard earned cash. 
    This is not meant to be sarcastic or insensitive, but maybe you don’t know her as well as you think you did? Being “well known” and “knowing her” are two different things. This women has been having credibility problems for years. That is something everyone agrees on.
    You are quite likely right sir. I always try to see the good in people, and that isnt always a good thing. 
    It’s really cool of you to try and mediate a solution to the situation.  And extremely generous to offer to help with the shipping so people can receive their items.  I’m sure they appreciate your efforts. 
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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 4,846
    pdalowsky said:
    Bouts of but that  still isnt ok. You know whats real  and what you took and spent or kept sorry ive thought  about  this a lot. It is as simple as not acceptable  on a fan to fan forum. The  very ethos of this  place is of kindness and helping a fellow fan out. We all have big issues and problems. There is only one rule. " Dont be an asshole". 
    If you take someones money  you know  what you are doing manic or not 
    Very hard to disagree with this Rob, I've enjoyed being a part of this community for the last 20 years or so and I would go as far as saying I don't think I've ever found anything remotely like it in life generally. 

    I don't think anyone knows what's gone on behind the scenes here, however what I think everyone will agree with is that there are no excuses that can be made. None. There may be reasons that have created the mess, but its impossible to excuse. Its just simply not good enough. 

    I stand firm in that I am sure she never intended to pull this as a scam, I hope I am not wrong in that, but that doesn't mean what is going on is acceptable in any shape or form. Its just not. 

    I heard back from Belinda last week that she is going to make this right. Yes I know that is just words for now, and they will seem very hollow to those waiting. So action has to follow......watch this space. 
    This is awesome! I hope those waiting are able to get their goods soon. Maybe even a little something extra as a sign of good faith. I remain hopeful that this saga has closure soon.

    I am also VERY thankful that my inquiry to Belinda regarding a rather expensive item remained unanswered. I couldn't even imagine the stress that would have cost.
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UKPosts: 14,238
    Just a little update that I have heard from Belinda and she is working on resolving everything. Nothing more concrete than that but it is in the works at least 
  • andrew68andrew68 TorontoPosts: 1,653
    12 months later...it's in the works...what a shame
    He was okay,... but wondering... about wandering
  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,628
    edited January 8
    item purchased on 11/17/21 and item received on 12/21/21 from Australia? 5 weeks of “worry?” Why is this even a thread OP?
    Post edited by Foriginal Sin on
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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 4,846
    item purchased on 11/17/21 and item received on 12/21/21 from Australia? 5 weeks of “worry?” Why is this even a thread OP?
    The OP was 5 weeks of no response, no tracking info, no product received AFTER funds were sent. This (to me) is a completely valid reason for such a thread. In fact, I think such a thread would be warranted after 2 weeks. 

    Additionally, the OP did edit the original stating that the item was received.  He also acknowledged fault for sending funds F&F.

    This is still a thread because there are still folks out there in the same situation with the same seller who are WELL BEYOND the 5 week window. At minimum, having a disclaimer for this seller is very warranted. 
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain…Posts: 13,295
    item purchased on 11/17/21 and item received on 12/21/21 from Australia? 5 weeks of “worry?” Why is this even a thread OP?
    If a seller on here receives your funds and doesn’t communicate for 5 weeks then that’s information other people here should know so they can make an informed decision before dealing with the seller.  
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  • Brane_of_JFKBrane_of_JFK MarylandPosts: 1,896
    item purchased on 11/17/21 and item received on 12/21/21 from Australia? 5 weeks of “worry?” Why is this even a thread OP?
    Someone needs to reread the thread...
  • cmaliszecmalisze Posts: 2,572
    pdalowsky said:
    Just a little update that I have heard from Belinda and she is working on resolving everything. Nothing more concrete than that but it is in the works at least



    Paul you know I think the world of you but Belinda is a thief and a crook. She stole my money and refuses to respond when I message her. She knows exactly what she did and will never make it right. She is leading you on too. Don't allow it. 
  • treestrees Columbus OHIOPosts: 1,459
    lot of people don't seem to understand the potential implications of mental illness. it can lead to impulsive behaviour, which can mean she no longer has the cash nor the means to make good on the goods. being able to log into an account does not equate to be a functional human being. 

    as F Me said, not excusing, but these things can be a complex set of circumstances. 
    I’m a psychologist. I understand perfectly well the ramifications of mental illness. There is also the more than likely possibility this person is a conn artist. 
    lot of people don't seem to understand the potential implications of mental illness. it can lead to impulsive behaviour, which can mean she no longer has the cash nor the means to make good on the goods. being able to log into an account does not equate to be a functional human being. 

    as F Me said, not excusing, but these things can be a complex set of circumstances. 
    I’m a psychologist. I understand perfectly well the ramifications of mental illness. There is also the more than likely possibility this person is a conn artist. 
    you haven't treated her, though, so you don't know any more than a non-psychologist in this situation. 
    I don't think he's weighing in on this in his official capacity as a psychologist, that wouldn't be ethical, but rather saying in his profession he has known folks to be both mentally unwell and be a con. 
    Thank you 


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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,628
    18,300 views for this thread. Belinda27 should be thinking about suing somebody
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain…Posts: 13,295
    18,300 views for this thread. Belinda27 should be thinking about suing somebody
    Maybe this guy…

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  • cmaliszecmalisze Posts: 2,572
    18,300 views for this thread. Belinda27 should be thinking about suing somebody
    I wish she would sue me. Then I will get my $350 back that the thief took. Where do I sign up? 
  • Brane_of_JFKBrane_of_JFK MarylandPosts: 1,896
    18,300 views for this thread. Belinda27 should be thinking about suing somebody
    This is a joke, right?
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 545
    Is Belinda27 still in the 10C? If yes, why? 
  • cmaliszecmalisze Posts: 2,572
    AW124797 said:
    Is Belinda27 still in the 10C? If yes, why? 
    She paid her fee..........the American way. Cash over character. 
  • Brane_of_JFKBrane_of_JFK MarylandPosts: 1,896
    cmalisze said:
    AW124797 said:
    Is Belinda27 still in the 10C? If yes, why? 
    She paid her fee..........the American way. Cash over character. 
    Well she's Australian, so....
  • cmaliszecmalisze Posts: 2,572
    cmalisze said:
    AW124797 said:
    Is Belinda27 still in the 10C? If yes, why? 
    She paid her fee..........the American way. Cash over character. 
    Well she's Australian, so....
    She may be in Australia but the 10c isn't. The question was asked why is she still in the 10c. The answer is she paid her membership fees to the 10c, and they could not care any less of how terrible horrible of a human she or anyone is, for that matter. If members could kick others out of the club, she would have been gone long ago. So.........
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 35,302
    Slow day in here huh?
  • cmaliszecmalisze Posts: 2,572
    Slow day in here huh?
    Oh you know......hard for people to buy things from each other when some steal money from members. LOL
  • Brane_of_JFKBrane_of_JFK MarylandPosts: 1,896
    cmalisze said:
    cmalisze said:
    AW124797 said:
    Is Belinda27 still in the 10C? If yes, why? 
    She paid her fee..........the American way. Cash over character. 
    Well she's Australian, so....
    She may be in Australia but the 10c isn't. The question was asked why is she still in the 10c. The answer is she paid her membership fees to the 10c, and they could not care any less of how terrible horrible of a human she or anyone is, for that matter. If members could kick others out of the club, she would have been gone long ago. So.........
    Ah, I misunderstood. American way for 10c.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 6,855
    edited January 23
    The situation sucks but I can't imagine Ten Club having the resources to get involved with private transactions between members that go south
  • cmaliszecmalisze Posts: 2,572
    pjl44 said:
    The situation sucks but I can't imagine Ten Club having the resources to get involved with private transactions between members that go south
    No doubt. They should not get involved in my mind. Impossible to manage and not their business interest. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 7,681
    pjl44 said:
    The situation sucks but I can't imagine Ten Club having the resources to get involved with private transactions between members that go south
    I kind of wish there was a feedback rating like ebay.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 33,509
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    The situation sucks but I can't imagine Ten Club having the resources to get involved with private transactions between members that go south
    I kind of wish there was a feedback rating like ebay.
    we had one. then the guy running it scammed a bunch of people. haha
    I'm through with screaming...

    Darwinspeed, folks...I'm out


  • DavidDDavidD Posts: 2,419
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    The situation sucks but I can't imagine Ten Club having the resources to get involved with private transactions between members that go south
    I kind of wish there was a feedback rating like ebay.
    Yeah, don white was running the list and ripped me off $200 for the sawn poster. 
    he gave me every excuse in the book until he disappeared from the ten club and moved on to Facebook. 
    The last time we message he told me he donated the money instead of returning it to me. He’s not to be trusted. 
    This is his profile. 

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    Caveat emptor. Buyer beware. Spend your money wisely!  
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    I was told by a person close to the band, that PJ won't tour Australia or NZ until her debt is settled. So disappointed this has dragged out for 9 years now 😭
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 7,681
    DavidD said:
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    The situation sucks but I can't imagine Ten Club having the resources to get involved with private transactions between members that go south
    I kind of wish there was a feedback rating like ebay.
    Yeah, don white was running the list and ripped me off $200 for the sawn poster. 
    he gave me every excuse in the book until he disappeared from the ten club and moved on to Facebook. 
    The last time we message he told me he donated the money instead of returning it to me. He’s not to be trusted. 
    This is his profile. 

    Someone who looks that much like Eddie you'd think would be a little more honest.
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