lot of people don't seem to understand the potential implications of mental illness. it can lead to impulsive behaviour, which can mean she no longer has the cash nor the means to make good on the goods. being able to log into an account does not equate to be a functional human being.
as F Me said, not excusing, but these things can be a complex set of circumstances.
I’m a psychologist. I understand perfectly well the ramifications of mental illness. There is also the more than likely possibility this person is a conn artist.
Having 'known Belinda' for many years I would confidently state that she is far from a con artist. She was a well known collector, and trader, and buyer and seller for many many years. There were a few occasions where things went wrong a few years ago, and threads started here and it was a worry for many but she did make good in the end. It was inexcusable to be honest, as communication is vital - and just to contact someone when having taken their money is the very least that could be expected. However things were made right and everyone moved on.
Belinda has clearly had a significant relapse here and I am not making excuses for her at all but I wouldn't ever describe her as a con artist. There is quite obviously something very wrong which we are not aware of. I do not believe however she ever set out to scam people here.
I just hope against all hope that she makes good on her deals again. People have sent significant sums of cash, and those goods just need to be shipped. If there is a funding issue in paying for shipping, it would be helpful if she could just let people know. Or if she isn't capable presently of sending those items out then ask a support worker to assist, or a member of family. There are ways to deal with this.
I have a very good friend out a couple of grand on this and I know he is astounded at how its gone, and beyond frustrated at the ability to get any sort of response as to either having his cash returned or his items sent.
I am going to reach out to her again and see if i can help get this situation resolved in any way. Even if its to help with the shipping fees or whatever, but just getting a line drawn would be such a relief for all the buyers who laid out hard earned cash.
This is not meant to be sarcastic or insensitive, but maybe you don’t know her as well as you think you did? Being “well known” and “knowing her” are two different things. This women has been having credibility problems for years. That is something everyone agrees on.
You are quite likely right sir. I always try to see the good in people, and that isnt always a good thing.
lot of people don't seem to understand the potential implications of mental illness. it can lead to impulsive behaviour, which can mean she no longer has the cash nor the means to make good on the goods. being able to log into an account does not equate to be a functional human being.
as F Me said, not excusing, but these things can be a complex set of circumstances.
I’m a psychologist. I understand perfectly well the ramifications of mental illness. There is also the more than likely possibility this person is a conn artist.
Having 'known Belinda' for many years I would confidently state that she is far from a con artist. She was a well known collector, and trader, and buyer and seller for many many years. There were a few occasions where things went wrong a few years ago, and threads started here and it was a worry for many but she did make good in the end. It was inexcusable to be honest, as communication is vital - and just to contact someone when having taken their money is the very least that could be expected. However things were made right and everyone moved on.
Belinda has clearly had a significant relapse here and I am not making excuses for her at all but I wouldn't ever describe her as a con artist. There is quite obviously something very wrong which we are not aware of. I do not believe however she ever set out to scam people here.
I just hope against all hope that she makes good on her deals again. People have sent significant sums of cash, and those goods just need to be shipped. If there is a funding issue in paying for shipping, it would be helpful if she could just let people know. Or if she isn't capable presently of sending those items out then ask a support worker to assist, or a member of family. There are ways to deal with this.
I have a very good friend out a couple of grand on this and I know he is astounded at how its gone, and beyond frustrated at the ability to get any sort of response as to either having his cash returned or his items sent.
I am going to reach out to her again and see if i can help get this situation resolved in any way. Even if its to help with the shipping fees or whatever, but just getting a line drawn would be such a relief for all the buyers who laid out hard earned cash.
This is not meant to be sarcastic or insensitive, but maybe you don’t know her as well as you think you did? Being “well known” and “knowing her” are two different things. This women has been having credibility problems for years. That is something everyone agrees on.
You are quite likely right sir. I always try to see the good in people, and that isnt always a good thing.
It’s really cool of you to try and mediate a solution to the situation. And extremely generous to offer to help with the shipping so people can receive their items. I’m sure they appreciate your efforts.
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Bouts of but that still isnt ok. You know whats real and what you took and spent or kept sorry ive thought about this a lot. It is as simple as not acceptable on a fan to fan forum. The very ethos of this place is of kindness and helping a fellow fan out. We all have big issues and problems. There is only one rule. " Dont be an asshole". If you take someones money you know what you are doing manic or not
Very hard to disagree with this Rob, I've enjoyed being a part of this community for the last 20 years or so and I would go as far as saying I don't think I've ever found anything remotely like it in life generally.
I don't think anyone knows what's gone on behind the scenes here, however what I think everyone will agree with is that there are no excuses that can be made. None. There may be reasons that have created the mess, but its impossible to excuse. Its just simply not good enough.
I stand firm in that I am sure she never intended to pull this as a scam, I hope I am not wrong in that, but that doesn't mean what is going on is acceptable in any shape or form. Its just not.
I heard back from Belinda last week that she is going to make this right. Yes I know that is just words for now, and they will seem very hollow to those waiting. So action has to follow......watch this space.
This is awesome! I hope those waiting are able to get their goods soon. Maybe even a little something extra as a sign of good faith. I remain hopeful that this saga has closure soon.
I am also VERY thankful that my inquiry to Belinda regarding a rather expensive item remained unanswered. I couldn't even imagine the stress that would have cost.
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Just a little update that I have heard from Belinda and she is working on resolving everything. Nothing more concrete than that but it is in the works at least
12 months later...it's in the works...what a shame
Any new realizations... would have to wait... Til he had more time,... more time... Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye, To himself... I'll see you on the other side...
item purchased on 11/17/21 and item received on 12/21/21 from Australia? 5 weeks of “worry?” Why is this even a thread OP?
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item purchased on 11/17/21 and item received on 12/21/21 from Australia? 5 weeks of “worry?” Why is this even a thread OP?
The OP was 5 weeks of no response, no tracking info, no product received AFTER funds were sent. This (to me) is a completely valid reason for such a thread. In fact, I think such a thread would be warranted after 2 weeks.
Additionally, the OP did edit the original stating that the item was received. He also acknowledged fault for sending funds F&F.
This is still a thread because there are still folks out there in the same situation with the same seller who are WELL BEYOND the 5 week window. At minimum, having a disclaimer for this seller is very warranted.
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item purchased on 11/17/21 and item received on 12/21/21 from Australia? 5 weeks of “worry?” Why is this even a thread OP?
If a seller on here receives your funds and doesn’t communicate for 5 weeks then that’s information other people here should know so they can make an informed decision before dealing with the seller.
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Just a little update that I have heard from Belinda and she is working on resolving everything. Nothing more concrete than that but it is in the works at least
Paul you know I think the world of you but Belinda is a thief and a crook. She stole my money and refuses to respond when I message her. She knows exactly what she did and will never make it right. She is leading you on too. Don't allow it.
lot of people don't seem to understand the potential implications of mental illness. it can lead to impulsive behaviour, which can mean she no longer has the cash nor the means to make good on the goods. being able to log into an account does not equate to be a functional human being.
as F Me said, not excusing, but these things can be a complex set of circumstances.
I’m a psychologist. I understand perfectly well the ramifications of mental illness. There is also the more than likely possibility this person is a conn artist.
lot of people don't seem to understand the potential implications of mental illness. it can lead to impulsive behaviour, which can mean she no longer has the cash nor the means to make good on the goods. being able to log into an account does not equate to be a functional human being.
as F Me said, not excusing, but these things can be a complex set of circumstances.
I’m a psychologist. I understand perfectly well the ramifications of mental illness. There is also the more than likely possibility this person is a conn artist.
you haven't treated her, though, so you don't know any more than a non-psychologist in this situation.
I don't think he's weighing in on this in his official capacity as a psychologist, that wouldn't be ethical, but rather saying in his profession he has known folks to be both mentally unwell and be a con.
Thank you
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She paid her fee..........the American way. Cash over character.
Well she's Australian, so....
She may be in Australia but the 10c isn't. The question was asked why is she still in the 10c. The answer is she paid her membership fees to the 10c, and they could not care any less of how terrible horrible of a human she or anyone is, for that matter. If members could kick others out of the club, she would have been gone long ago. So.........
She paid her fee..........the American way. Cash over character.
Well she's Australian, so....
She may be in Australia but the 10c isn't. The question was asked why is she still in the 10c. The answer is she paid her membership fees to the 10c, and they could not care any less of how terrible horrible of a human she or anyone is, for that matter. If members could kick others out of the club, she would have been gone long ago. So.........
I was told by a person close to the band, that PJ won't tour Australia or NZ until her debt is settled. So disappointed this has dragged out for 9 years now 😭
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I am also VERY thankful that my inquiry to Belinda regarding a rather expensive item remained unanswered. I couldn't even imagine the stress that would have cost.
Til he had more time,... more time...
Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
To himself... I'll see you on the other side...
Additionally, the OP did edit the original stating that the item was received. He also acknowledged fault for sending funds F&F.
This is still a thread because there are still folks out there in the same situation with the same seller who are WELL BEYOND the 5 week window. At minimum, having a disclaimer for this seller is very warranted.
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