America's Gun Violence #2

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    KP_McMinn said:
    KP_McMinn said:

    "Aside from the usual crazies, like MTG."

    Mace--she is the face of the GOP. There is no denying that at this point. She essentially chose the speaker of the house. The former president and frontrunner for the '24 nomination regularly talks about her. 

    That "crazy" is the republican party now, like it or not. 

    with all do respect, you are wrong here.  We do not claim her as the face of GOP.  The loudest maybe, but not the face/future. 

    Sorry bud. She is the face of the party you belong to whether you like it or not. Kevin McCarthy would not be speaker had she not supported him. 

    I'm more in the Lauren Boebert corner....but anyone would have been better than pelosi. 
    So you like your crazy a tad on the younger side then? Gotcha. 
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  • KP_McMinn said:
    What is leading people to the conclusion that this was a hate crime?

    I'm admittedly in the dark about a lot of this story... so far all I've heard is that the shooter is a former student of the school and trans. Has some of the manifesto or intentions / motivations been revealed? 

    yes it was a hate crime against Christians. 
    "Aside from the usual crazies, like MTG."

    Mace--she is the face of the GOP. There is no denying that at this point. She essentially chose the speaker of the house. The former president and frontrunner for the '24 nomination regularly talks about her. 

    That "crazy" is the republican party now, like it or not. 

    with all do respect, you are wrong here.  We do not claim her as the face of GOP.  The loudest maybe, but not the face/future. 

    dude, she IS the face of the gop. you guys have to deal with it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • people on twitter are now calling out "hugely popular country stars" that live in nashville for staying silent on this. what they don't realize is you do not get "hugely popular" by saying anything that can potentially keep you from having a song you didn't write go to number 1 on country radio.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,352
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,136
    edited March 2023
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • when i hear a mass shooting happens, i immediately picture a disgruntled white male, 20s or 30s, probably an incel,  with metal rim glasses and a strange haircut. most mass shooters fit that description.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • KP_McMinnKP_McMinn Posts: 748
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,136
    KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,748
    KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    White males who claim to be "christian " are fine but everyone else HELL NO!
  • KatKat Posts: 4,864
    The topic is extremely difficult but the discussion should be calm and respectful. Closing this for a bit for cool heads to prevail. Thanks.
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,136
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
    KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,967
    OnWis97 said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
    But race doesn’t matter, eh?
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    This, all of it, feels like we’re in a video game like the “last of us” because this can’t be real

    1:52 p.m. ET, March 28, 2023

    Shooter purchased 7 guns legally in Nashville, and 3 of them were used in the shooting

  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    OnWis97 said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
    OnWis97 said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
    But race doesn’t matter, eh?
    Reagan signed the Mulford act to specifically target the black panthers whom were open carrying.  
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    Seriously how many fucking guns do you people need?  Mental issues but legally owning 7 guns…..this is madness people.  Even if you’re pro gun you have to admit this is totally fucked up.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,967
    OnWis97 said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
    OnWis97 said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
    But race doesn’t matter, eh?
    Reagan signed the Mulford act to specifically target the black panthers whom were open carrying.  
    So, does race matter or not? Mace told us in the context of mass shootings, school shootings or shootings in general, I’m not really sure, it doesn’t matter. Does it?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,967
    Seriously how many fucking guns do you people need?  Mental issues but legally owning 7 guns…..this is madness people.  Even if you’re pro gun you have to admit this is totally fucked up.  
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    Clearly, 7 is not enough.

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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    Seriously how many fucking guns do you people need?  Mental issues but legally owning 7 guns…..this is madness people.  Even if you’re pro gun you have to admit this is totally fucked up.  
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    Clearly, 7 is not enough.

    Damn, I only keep spare reading glasses in every room. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,967
    Seriously how many fucking guns do you people need?  Mental issues but legally owning 7 guns…..this is madness people.  Even if you’re pro gun you have to admit this is totally fucked up.  
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    Bathroom, up
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    Car
    Shed
    On person

    Clearly, 7 is not enough.

    Damn, I only keep spare reading glasses in every room. 
    Imagine where you forgot you placed your gun in that easy to reach and accessible hiding spot? But that's why you can just go out and buy more. Like glasses at CVS or Wally Mart.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435
    Beyond fucking sick of these shootings. I don't see it ending anytime soon, unfortunately.

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  • KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    if minorities were stockpiling any of those things they would be illegal yesterday.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,967
    KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    if minorities were stockpiling any of those things they would be illegal yesterday.
    Particularly thongs.
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  • KP_McMinn said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).
    Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.
    Pay attention to the world around you, okay?
    I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
    Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
    A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
    Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.
    But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

    the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....
    Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong
    if minorities were stockpiling any of those things they would be illegal yesterday.
    Particularly thongs.
    they were stockpiling those for a while back when the thong song was new.
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  • no they wouldn't. being black would be illegal and white people owning more guns would be mandatory. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,429
    Today’s NY Post cover is spectacular. Twice they mention the trans aspect, targeting / attacking Christians, a manifesto and young victims… all TWICE, but zero mention of the how it was carried out. 

    *chef’s kiss* 


  • https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

    interactive 3D article showing how ar-15 can create more devastating injuries than a 9 mm handgun.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,967
    Today’s NY Post cover is spectacular. Twice they mention the trans aspect, targeting / attacking Christians, a manifesto and young victims… all TWICE, but zero mention of the how it was carried out. 

    *chef’s kiss* 


    You go, Rupert Murdick, you go boy! How long before these "christian" militias start defending "freedumb?"
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    But I was told this was strictly a hate crime. 
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    gift article


    THE BLAST EFFECT

    This is how bullets from an AR-15 blow the body apart


    continues with article and 3d modeling

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