She definitely does get it Unfortunately the people who need to do the right thing do not.
And they don’t give two shits about how many kids/adults get massacred so like I’ve done all along I don’t socialize with folks who are pro gun at any cost idiots!
She definitely does get it Unfortunately the people who need to do the right thing do not.
And they don’t give two shits about how many kids/adults get massacred so like I’ve done all along I don’t socialize with folks who are pro gun at any cost idiots!
The big problem is the grifters....right wing politicians who refuse to budge because they fear losing nra support. And therefore financial and political support. The rightwingosphere that won't change due to fear of losing $, views, and clicks. And then there is the average QtRUmplican who won't change their view because their afraid that President Obama will send his crack U.N. troops to take away their God given guns.
It is ironic that Republicans tend to be the USA USA USA crowd, when the US is clearly so dangerous that they need ten guns to protect themselves with.
She definitely does get it Unfortunately the people who need to do the right thing do not.
And they don’t give two shits about how many kids/adults get massacred so like I’ve done all along I don’t socialize with folks who are pro gun at any cost idiots!
The big problem is the grifters....right wing politicians who refuse to budge because they fear losing nra support. And therefore financial and political support. The rightwingosphere that won't change due to fear of losing $, views, and clicks. And then there is the average QtRUmplican who won't change their view because their afraid that President Obama will send his crack U.N. troops to take away their God given guns.
Exactly boogie man Obama scared the crap out of whiteee! Ooohh look at him in those tan pants how could he and his name def wasn’t born here!
One of the comments says we have to vote them all out. That’s the only solution.
It still amazes me how every time a shooting happens the "it's not a gun issue" people come out of the slime. How does logic escape these people?
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
Hate to bring the celebrations to a halt but want to keep this threads importance at the top for awhile. Trumps a piece of shit and all his indictment is doing is keeping the guns/mass shootings in the background. Gun enthusiasts are loving the trump distraction.
9 military dead, which I can’t understand for the life of me. Had a good long cry about that incident. 6 funerals from ANOTHER mass shooting-first one today, tornadoes killing and changing lives forever and everyone’s talking about a POS.
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Unreal and sad huh? Thanks for this perspective. Won’t matter to everyone but it does to the majority on here and I certainly appreciate it.
To me the saddest part is the millions of uhmericans who literally don't care about all the senseless school shootings and cling cling cling to their God given 2A rights no matter who and how many die. Especially if it means "owning the libs" and not being "woke". In order of importance....
DeSantis signs bill to carry concealed guns without a permit
By BRENDAN FARRINGTON
43 mins ago
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Floridians will be able to carry concealed guns without a permit under a bill Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Monday, giving the governor another legislative victory as he prepares a campaign for president.
The governor signed the bill in a private ceremony in his office. His only immediate public comment was, “Constitutional Carry is in the books,” which he said in a three-paragraph news release.
The new law will allow anyone who can legally own a gun in Florida to carry one without a permit. It means training and a background check will not be required to carry concealed guns in public. It takes effect July 1.
The arguments over the legislation were divided along political lines, with Republicans saying law-abiding citizens have a right to carry guns and protect themselves. They say most people will still want to get a permit because it will allow them to carry concealed weapons in states with reciprocal agreements and to be able to purchase guns without a waiting period.
However, Democrats and gun safety advocates -- pointing to mass shootings in Florida like the massacre at the 2016 Pulse nightclub in Orlando and the deadly 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland — say the new law will only make the state more dangerous.
“I am pissed," Fred Guttenberg, whose 14-year-old daughter Jaime was killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, told reporters during an online news conference. “I will chase him down across the state as well as possibly across the country ... because Ron DeSantis today put his signature to a bill that guarantees there will be more Jaimes.”
And he said signing the bill behind closed doors makes DeSantis a coward.
“Somebody in Florida may die ... because of this legislation. That will be because of you, Ron DeSantis,” Guttenberg said. “I understand why you hid today ... You are a weak, pathetic, small-minded individual.”
Nearly 3 million Floridians have a concealed weapons permit. While a background check and three-day waiting period will still be required to purchase a gun from a licensed dealer, they are not required for private transactions or exchanges of weapons.
DeSantis has said he thinks Florida should go even further and allow people to openly carry guns. While some lawmakers have pushed for open carry, it doesn't appear the Legislature will pass such legislation this session.
The bill signing comes five years after then-Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican, signed a bill creating gun restrictions after 17 students and faculty were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas. Under DeSantis, momentum has swung back toward expanding gun rights rather than placing limits on them, which has earned him praise from gun rights advocates.
"Government will not get in the way of law-abiding Americans who want to defend themselves and their families,” Republican Sen. Jay Collins, who sponsored the bill, said in a news release.
It also comes one week after six people were killed in a Nashville school shooting, a point made by President Joe Biden's administration.
“It is shameful that so soon after another tragic school shooting, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law a permitless concealed carry bill behind closed doors,” said White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. “This is the opposite of common-sense gun safety.”
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DeSantis signs bill to carry concealed guns without a permit
By BRENDAN FARRINGTON
43 mins ago
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Floridians will be able to carry concealed guns without a permit under a bill Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Monday, giving the governor another legislative victory as he prepares a campaign for president.
The governor signed the bill in a private ceremony in his office. His only immediate public comment was, “Constitutional Carry is in the books,” which he said in a three-paragraph news release.
The new law will allow anyone who can legally own a gun in Florida to carry one without a permit. It means training and a background check will not be required to carry concealed guns in public. It takes effect July 1.
The arguments over the legislation were divided along political lines, with Republicans saying law-abiding citizens have a right to carry guns and protect themselves. They say most people will still want to get a permit because it will allow them to carry concealed weapons in states with reciprocal agreements and to be able to purchase guns without a waiting period.
However, Democrats and gun safety advocates -- pointing to mass shootings in Florida like the massacre at the 2016 Pulse nightclub in Orlando and the deadly 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland — say the new law will only make the state more dangerous.
“I am pissed," Fred Guttenberg, whose 14-year-old daughter Jaime was killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, told reporters during an online news conference. “I will chase him down across the state as well as possibly across the country ... because Ron DeSantis today put his signature to a bill that guarantees there will be more Jaimes.”
And he said signing the bill behind closed doors makes DeSantis a coward.
“Somebody in Florida may die ... because of this legislation. That will be because of you, Ron DeSantis,” Guttenberg said. “I understand why you hid today ... You are a weak, pathetic, small-minded individual.”
Nearly 3 million Floridians have a concealed weapons permit. While a background check and three-day waiting period will still be required to purchase a gun from a licensed dealer, they are not required for private transactions or exchanges of weapons.
DeSantis has said he thinks Florida should go even further and allow people to openly carry guns. While some lawmakers have pushed for open carry, it doesn't appear the Legislature will pass such legislation this session.
The bill signing comes five years after then-Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican, signed a bill creating gun restrictions after 17 students and faculty were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas. Under DeSantis, momentum has swung back toward expanding gun rights rather than placing limits on them, which has earned him praise from gun rights advocates.
"Government will not get in the way of law-abiding Americans who want to defend themselves and their families,” Republican Sen. Jay Collins, who sponsored the bill, said in a news release.
It also comes one week after six people were killed in a Nashville school shooting, a point made by President Joe Biden's administration.
“It is shameful that so soon after another tragic school shooting, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law a permitless concealed carry bill behind closed doors,” said White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. “This is the opposite of common-sense gun safety.”
because what could possibly go wrong?
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
When I lived in Germany for four years during the first half of the 1990s, my German friends said it best. They mentioned that when Germans get angry at each other, the worst that will generally happen is a fistfight. However, in the United States, we often dramatically escalate such situations due to the prevalence of firearms in this country. It's really simple when you think about it.
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
The only thing I can do in protest of these assnine laws is to not spend my $$$ in states like Florida screw them!
I stand with you on this. Unfortunately I have family in Florida that I have to visit once a year. I spend as little as possible and when I do it is locally owned mom/pop businesses.
For the rest of the year my travel plans are to forward thinking progressive blue states where I'm happy to spend my dollars.
Hopefully any PJ tour plans will exclude the regressive red states.
The only thing I can do in protest of these assnine laws is to not spend my $$$ in states like Florida screw them!
I stand with you on this. Unfortunately I have family in Florida that I have to visit once a year. I spend as little as possible and when I do it is locally owned mom/pop businesses.
For the rest of the year my travel plans are to forward thinking progressive blue states where I'm happy to spend my dollars.
Hopefully any PJ tour plans will exclude the regressive red states.
Yeah no need to cut off family I’d do the same bite my tongue and show good face! But at least as individuals we can protest such laws!
The only thing I can do in protest of these assnine laws is to not spend my $$$ in states like Florida screw them!
I stand with you on this. Unfortunately I have family in Florida that I have to visit once a year. I spend as little as possible and when I do it is locally owned mom/pop businesses.
For the rest of the year my travel plans are to forward thinking progressive blue states where I'm happy to spend my dollars.
Hopefully any PJ tour plans will exclude the regressive red states.
Yeah no need to cut off family I’d do the same bite my tongue and show good face! But at least as individuals we can protest such laws!
The weird part is that all of my family are tree-hugging liberals. Some my "Florida family" technically live in Duchess County where their vote means more.
The only thing I can do in protest of these assnine laws is to not spend my $$$ in states like Florida screw them!
Please add to your protest Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, and Texas…nut’s to see there anyhow except for proud merica’s w/ loads of guns
Glad too I have no interest in visiting any of them! I’ll be spending most of my retirement between here NY & Chile
Muy bueno, sounds like a great plan. We just sold the last of our rental properties in Portugal to invest in Chile. We are heading there in a few weeks actually to finalize a few things. Chile is a fabulous country w/ so many things to do and cheap cheap cheap. It won’t be for long just like Portugal blew up the past decade.
The only thing I can do in protest of these assnine laws is to not spend my $$$ in states like Florida screw them!
Please add to your protest Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, and Texas…nut’s to see there anyhow except for proud merica’s w/ loads of guns
Glad too I have no interest in visiting any of them! I’ll be spending most of my retirement between here NY & Chile
Muy bueno, sounds like a great plan. We just sold the last of our rental properties in Portugal to invest in Chile. We are heading there in a few weeks actually to finalize a few things. Chile is a fabulous country w/ so many things to do and cheap cheap cheap. It won’t be for long just like Portugal blew up the past decade.
Nice I love my home country! You do get your money’s worth when bringing $$$, the only that I found a bit disturbing in January was the amount of immigrants from Venezuela, Colombia and Peru living on the streets in the capital, not saying they shouldn’t be welcomed but just the conditions were brutal.
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Unfortunately the people who need to do the right thing do not.
The rightwingosphere that won't change due to fear of losing $, views, and clicks.
And then there is the average QtRUmplican who won't change their view because their afraid that President Obama will send his crack U.N. troops to take away their God given guns.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
The people who own the Guns kill people
The children of the people who own the guns kill other children
But let's put all our efforts into getting rid of drag shows
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
think it would be more impactful with the month/year as well.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
In order of importance....
Guns
God
Grifters
More guns
Family
Anyone else
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Floridians will be able to carry concealed guns without a permit under a bill Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Monday, giving the governor another legislative victory as he prepares a campaign for president.
The governor signed the bill in a private ceremony in his office. His only immediate public comment was, “Constitutional Carry is in the books,” which he said in a three-paragraph news release.
The new law will allow anyone who can legally own a gun in Florida to carry one without a permit. It means training and a background check will not be required to carry concealed guns in public. It takes effect July 1.
The arguments over the legislation were divided along political lines, with Republicans saying law-abiding citizens have a right to carry guns and protect themselves. They say most people will still want to get a permit because it will allow them to carry concealed weapons in states with reciprocal agreements and to be able to purchase guns without a waiting period.
However, Democrats and gun safety advocates -- pointing to mass shootings in Florida like the massacre at the 2016 Pulse nightclub in Orlando and the deadly 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland — say the new law will only make the state more dangerous.
RON DESANTIS
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Florida OKs bill to carry concealed guns without a permit
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“I am pissed," Fred Guttenberg, whose 14-year-old daughter Jaime was killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, told reporters during an online news conference. “I will chase him down across the state as well as possibly across the country ... because Ron DeSantis today put his signature to a bill that guarantees there will be more Jaimes.”
And he said signing the bill behind closed doors makes DeSantis a coward.
“Somebody in Florida may die ... because of this legislation. That will be because of you, Ron DeSantis,” Guttenberg said. “I understand why you hid today ... You are a weak, pathetic, small-minded individual.”
Nearly 3 million Floridians have a concealed weapons permit. While a background check and three-day waiting period will still be required to purchase a gun from a licensed dealer, they are not required for private transactions or exchanges of weapons.
DeSantis has said he thinks Florida should go even further and allow people to openly carry guns. While some lawmakers have pushed for open carry, it doesn't appear the Legislature will pass such legislation this session.
The bill signing comes five years after then-Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican, signed a bill creating gun restrictions after 17 students and faculty were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas. Under DeSantis, momentum has swung back toward expanding gun rights rather than placing limits on them, which has earned him praise from gun rights advocates.
"Government will not get in the way of law-abiding Americans who want to defend themselves and their families,” Republican Sen. Jay Collins, who sponsored the bill, said in a news release.
It also comes one week after six people were killed in a Nashville school shooting, a point made by President Joe Biden's administration.
“It is shameful that so soon after another tragic school shooting, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law a permitless concealed carry bill behind closed doors,” said White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. “This is the opposite of common-sense gun safety.”
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
thats just schools.....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Unfortunately I have family in Florida that I have to visit once a year. I spend as little as possible and when I do it is locally owned mom/pop businesses.
For the rest of the year my travel plans are to forward thinking progressive blue states where I'm happy to spend my dollars.
Hopefully any PJ tour plans will exclude the regressive red states.
Some my "Florida family" technically live in Duchess County where their vote means more.