America's Gun Violence #2

brianlux

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

KP_McMinn said:

ugh this is awful...thoughts and prayers as well. 

Do you know what 100 billion dollars could do in this country?  It could put two armed and trained security officers in every middle school, high school and university in the country.  Wouldn't that be nice?  I mean, if you're going to make a "gun free school zone", at least provide the school with a way of protecting itself.  It is my opinion, that in cases like these tragedies, more guns is the answer, not less.  

The kind of a nightmare world you seem to envision is not something most of us are interested in.   "More guns is the answer".  The one dimensional arm everyone to the hilt.   What a clusterfuck that would be.  Maybe you already live in such a place.  No thanks, pal. 

He must live in Mogadishu

LOL, or the American version of. 

cblock4life

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

ugh this is awful...thoughts and prayers as well. 

Do you know what 100 billion dollars could do in this country?  It could put two armed and trained security officers in every middle school, high school and university in the country.  Wouldn't that be nice?  I mean, if you're going to make a "gun free school zone", at least provide the school with a way of protecting itself.  It is my opinion, that in cases like these tragedies, more guns is the answer, not less.  

The police shot her. And an armed officer would be target #1 right? A lot of good that does.

6 people died.  Probably took 6-8 minutes for anyone with a gun to arrive.  Too long.  Threat could have been neutralized upon entry of school with 0 deaths.  I'll take that 100/100.  You wouldn't? 

You make no sense.

The first person the gunman approaches will die. Armed guards don't generally point their weapon at anyone walking the hallway. If I want to pull a gun out and kill you I will before you even know what happened.

Then I am free to start my spree.

It doesn't matter how many armed people there are. 

yikes....spoken like someone who has 0 training with firearms.  Sorry dude, sit this one out. 

lol...yeah because what I described just doesn't happen right?

that happens with unarmed people, UNARMED.  not with trained professionals.  Take the L on this one...cant win em all. 

so if I casually walk up to an armed officer and say "excuse me Sir" then pull my pistol and pop him in the melon how does he defend himself?

Think outside the maga box borat

He said 2 armed guards at first though. You'd only get the first one that way, assuming they arent just sitting next to each other. 

yeah so they walk the property together?

And if my intent is to shoot up the school then taking out two armed guards by surprise isn't going to get in my way. The element of surprise is an extreme advantage.

No, you’re not answering properly- you’ll have two guns ready to go and you’ll take them both down at the same time!  More is more!! The more the better! 

God bless you for trying to reason with - whoever or whatever they are.  I’m at the the fuck this shit level now.  I have no respect for those who think more guns are the solution. 

So more guns but not more abortions.  Why can’t they see these are the same two fucking things?!  

Gern Blansten

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

ugh this is awful...thoughts and prayers as well. 

Do you know what 100 billion dollars could do in this country?  It could put two armed and trained security officers in every middle school, high school and university in the country.  Wouldn't that be nice?  I mean, if you're going to make a "gun free school zone", at least provide the school with a way of protecting itself.  It is my opinion, that in cases like these tragedies, more guns is the answer, not less.  

The police shot her. And an armed officer would be target #1 right? A lot of good that does.

6 people died.  Probably took 6-8 minutes for anyone with a gun to arrive.  Too long.  Threat could have been neutralized upon entry of school with 0 deaths.  I'll take that 100/100.  You wouldn't? 

You make no sense.

The first person the gunman approaches will die. Armed guards don't generally point their weapon at anyone walking the hallway. If I want to pull a gun out and kill you I will before you even know what happened.

Then I am free to start my spree.

It doesn't matter how many armed people there are. 

yikes....spoken like someone who has 0 training with firearms.  Sorry dude, sit this one out. 

lol...yeah because what I described just doesn't happen right?

that happens with unarmed people, UNARMED.  not with trained professionals.  Take the L on this one...cant win em all. 

so if I casually walk up to an armed officer and say "excuse me Sir" then pull my pistol and pop him in the melon how does he defend himself?

Think outside the maga box borat

He said 2 armed guards at first though. You'd only get the first one that way, assuming they arent just sitting next to each other. 

yeah so they walk the property together?

And if my intent is to shoot up the school then taking out two armed guards by surprise isn't going to get in my way. The element of surprise is an extreme advantage.

how likely is a school shooter going to try and shoot up a school, knowing there are two trained and armed guards in it?  I think it would drastically cut down school shootings. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/parkland-shooting-armed-school-resource-officer-never-went-school-during-n850441

History says pretty fucking likely

KP_McMinn

Kandahar.  19 months. 

KP_McMinn

brianlux said:

KP_McMinn said:

ugh this is awful...thoughts and prayers as well. 

Do you know what 100 billion dollars could do in this country?  It could put two armed and trained security officers in every middle school, high school and university in the country.  Wouldn't that be nice?  I mean, if you're going to make a "gun free school zone", at least provide the school with a way of protecting itself.  It is my opinion, that in cases like these tragedies, more guns is the answer, not less.  

The kind of a nightmare world you seem to envision is not something most of us are interested in.   "More guns is the answer".  The one dimensional arm everyone to the hilt.   What a clusterfuck that would be.  Maybe you already live in such a place.  No thanks, pal. 

john densmore was a horrible drummer. 

KP_McMinn

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

ugh this is awful...thoughts and prayers as well. 

Do you know what 100 billion dollars could do in this country?  It could put two armed and trained security officers in every middle school, high school and university in the country.  Wouldn't that be nice?  I mean, if you're going to make a "gun free school zone", at least provide the school with a way of protecting itself.  It is my opinion, that in cases like these tragedies, more guns is the answer, not less.  

The police shot her. And an armed officer would be target #1 right? A lot of good that does.

6 people died.  Probably took 6-8 minutes for anyone with a gun to arrive.  Too long.  Threat could have been neutralized upon entry of school with 0 deaths.  I'll take that 100/100.  You wouldn't? 

You make no sense.

The first person the gunman approaches will die. Armed guards don't generally point their weapon at anyone walking the hallway. If I want to pull a gun out and kill you I will before you even know what happened.

Then I am free to start my spree.

It doesn't matter how many armed people there are. 

yikes....spoken like someone who has 0 training with firearms.  Sorry dude, sit this one out. 

lol...yeah because what I described just doesn't happen right?

that happens with unarmed people, UNARMED.  not with trained professionals.  Take the L on this one...cant win em all. 

so if I casually walk up to an armed officer and say "excuse me Sir" then pull my pistol and pop him in the melon how does he defend himself?

Think outside the maga box borat

i am trying to think outside the box!  i'd rather spend the 100 billion dollars HERE in AMERICA, protecting our children and teachers, rather then in a foreign land on a war that doesn't have anything to do with me/us.  America FIRST, not last. 

You know that there were armed guards at school shootings within the last few years right? You know that right?

no? which one? 

Gern Blansten

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

ugh this is awful...thoughts and prayers as well. 

Do you know what 100 billion dollars could do in this country?  It could put two armed and trained security officers in every middle school, high school and university in the country.  Wouldn't that be nice?  I mean, if you're going to make a "gun free school zone", at least provide the school with a way of protecting itself.  It is my opinion, that in cases like these tragedies, more guns is the answer, not less.  

The police shot her. And an armed officer would be target #1 right? A lot of good that does.

6 people died.  Probably took 6-8 minutes for anyone with a gun to arrive.  Too long.  Threat could have been neutralized upon entry of school with 0 deaths.  I'll take that 100/100.  You wouldn't? 

You make no sense.

The first person the gunman approaches will die. Armed guards don't generally point their weapon at anyone walking the hallway. If I want to pull a gun out and kill you I will before you even know what happened.

Then I am free to start my spree.

It doesn't matter how many armed people there are. 

yikes....spoken like someone who has 0 training with firearms.  Sorry dude, sit this one out. 

lol...yeah because what I described just doesn't happen right?

that happens with unarmed people, UNARMED.  not with trained professionals.  Take the L on this one...cant win em all. 

so if I casually walk up to an armed officer and say "excuse me Sir" then pull my pistol and pop him in the melon how does he defend himself?

Think outside the maga box borat

i am trying to think outside the box!  i'd rather spend the 100 billion dollars HERE in AMERICA, protecting our children and teachers, rather then in a foreign land on a war that doesn't have anything to do with me/us.  America FIRST, not last. 

You know that there were armed guards at school shootings within the last few years right? You know that right?

no? which one? 

lol...one? Educate yourself for fucks sake

Gern Blansten

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/do-armed-school-police-officers-prevent-shootings/

Here's a few more for you Borat

brianlux

KP_McMinn said:

Kandahar.  19 months. 

Sucks, sorry to hear that.  But please, leave that war there.  Most of us don't want or need it here. 
And I'm not just talking about the so-called "radical left".  I know relatively conservative people who are in favor of gun control.  The majority of Americans are sick to death of all the gun-death violence.  Ubiquitous war is not the answer.

JojoRice

KP_McMinn said:

JojoRice said:

I'm a high school teacher and we have 3 armed officers on our campus at all times. 

thats great, may i ask what state?  Any shootings to speak of at your school recently? 

Georgia.  In one of the largest districts in the country with over 100k students. We've never had a school shooting in our county that I know of. 

Gern Blansten

brianlux said:

KP_McMinn said:

Kandahar.  19 months. 

Sucks, sorry to hear that.  But please, leave that war there.  Most of us don't want or need it here. 
And I'm not just talking about the so-called "radical left".  I know relatively conservative people who are in favor of gun control.  The majority of Americans are sick to death of all the gun-death violence.  Ubiquitous war is not the answer.

The majority of NRA members support more control. It's amazing.

brianlux

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

KP_McMinn said:

Kandahar.  19 months. 

Sucks, sorry to hear that.  But please, leave that war there.  Most of us don't want or need it here. 
And I'm not just talking about the so-called "radical left".  I know relatively conservative people who are in favor of gun control.  The majority of Americans are sick to death of all the gun-death violence.  Ubiquitous war is not the answer.

The majority of NRA members support more control. It's amazing.

I did not know that! 

Bentleyspop

Thoughts and prayers to the gun, bullets, and 2A that will surely be blamed for this.

JojoRice

I'm not an NRA member but I am a gun owner and I support more control.  I also agree that assault rifles that were made for war should not be available to the public.  

KP_McMinn

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

KP_McMinn said:

Kandahar.  19 months. 

Sucks, sorry to hear that.  But please, leave that war there.  Most of us don't want or need it here. 
And I'm not just talking about the so-called "radical left".  I know relatively conservative people who are in favor of gun control.  The majority of Americans are sick to death of all the gun-death violence.  Ubiquitous war is not the answer.

The majority of NRA members support more control. It's amazing.

DOnt get it twisted, i absolutely think there should be gun control legislature.  When i stated earlier, "more guns is the answer", i really meant in the school district sector.  I just dont understand these "gun free school zones".  It's like, these places are a murderers wet dream.  Lets go kill people where we know there are no guns.  I will never understand this logic. 

We should absolutely bring the "cooling down" law back.  It was a law that stated you'd have to wait 3 days until you could receive your weapon.  What they found was, a lot of people would who were buying guns, were doing so immediately after being fired, getting beat up, catching your wife blowing someone.....what have you.  These people would go to buy a gun out of anger, then 3 days later, they wouldn't show up for it, they had come to their senses.  hence the cooling down period.  I think this needs to come back.   

Gern Blansten

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

KP_McMinn said:

Kandahar.  19 months. 

Sucks, sorry to hear that.  But please, leave that war there.  Most of us don't want or need it here. 
And I'm not just talking about the so-called "radical left".  I know relatively conservative people who are in favor of gun control.  The majority of Americans are sick to death of all the gun-death violence.  Ubiquitous war is not the answer.

The majority of NRA members support more control. It's amazing.

DOnt get it twisted, i absolutely think there should be gun control legislature.  When i stated earlier, "more guns is the answer", i really meant in the school district sector.  I just dont understand these "gun free school zones".  It's like, these places are a murderers wet dream.  Lets go kill people where we know there are no guns.  I will never understand this logic. 

We should absolutely bring the "cooling down" law back.  It was a law that stated you'd have to wait 3 days until you could receive your weapon.  What they found was, a lot of people would who were buying guns, were doing so immediately after being fired, getting beat up, catching your wife blowing someone.....what have you.  These people would go to buy a gun out of anger, then 3 days later, they wouldn't show up for it, they had come to their senses.  hence the cooling down period.  I think this needs to come back.   

Ridiculous. The whole "gun free zone" argument that the right makes has no credibility whatsoever.

People can get killed in gun zones as easily as they can in gun free zones. Get a different argument.

KP_McMinn

Maybe.  But i aint gonna be the one to test that with my family.  Peace hippy

Gern Blansten

KP_McMinn said:

Maybe.  But i aint gonna be the one to test that with my family.  Peace hippy

This hippy is a gun owner. But my penis is of adequate size so I don't need an assault rifle.

brianlux

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Maybe.  But i aint gonna be the one to test that with my family.  Peace hippy

This hippy is a gun owner. But my penis is of adequate size so I don't need an assault rifle.

KP_McMinn said:

Maybe.  But i aint gonna be the one to test that with my family.  Peace hippy

Thank you for illustrating what I was talking about with labels in the other thread.  "Peace hippy"?  Jesus Christ, man.

KP_McMinn

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Maybe.  But i aint gonna be the one to test that with my family.  Peace hippy

This hippy is a gun owner. But my penis is of adequate size so I don't need an assault rifle.

KP_McMinn said:

Maybe.  But i aint gonna be the one to test that with my family.  Peace hippy

Thank you for illustrating what I was talking about with labels in the other thread.  "Peace hippy"?  Jesus Christ, man.

what? is hippy a bad word now?  I thought hippies liked being called hippies?  besides, he refers to himself as a hippy anyhow, but thank you (once again) for reminding me how awful i am. 

brianlux

There are no bad words, just bad intentions. 

I have a good intention right now.  I intent to get off the damn computer and go for a walk.  Or maybe a woke, who the fuck knows?  

KP_McMinn

brianlux said:

There are no bad words, just bad intentions. 

I have a good intention right now.  I intent to get off the damn computer and go for a walk.  Or maybe a woke, who the fuck knows?  

that sounds like a great idea!  until the next time you brow beat the shit out of me!  peace and love

gimmesometruth27

KP_McMinn said:

JojoRice said:

I'm a high school teacher and we have 3 armed officers on our campus at all times. 

thats great, may i ask what state?  Any shootings to speak of at your school recently? 

my alma mater had a school shooting a few years ago, and then earlier this year kids were sent home for a credible threat of a shooting.

Bentleyspop

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Maybe.  But i aint gonna be the one to test that with my family.  Peace hippy

This hippy is a gun owner. But my penis is of adequate size so I don't need an assault rifle.

But do you have an oversized pickup truck?

Gern Blansten

Bentleyspop said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Maybe.  But i aint gonna be the one to test that with my family.  Peace hippy

This hippy is a gun owner. But my penis is of adequate size so I don't need an assault rifle.

But do you have an oversized pickup truck?

Not yet

mickeyrat

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

ugh this is awful...thoughts and prayers as well. 

Do you know what 100 billion dollars could do in this country?  It could put two armed and trained security officers in every middle school, high school and university in the country.  Wouldn't that be nice?  I mean, if you're going to make a "gun free school zone", at least provide the school with a way of protecting itself.  It is my opinion, that in cases like these tragedies, more guns is the answer, not less.  

The police shot her. And an armed officer would be target #1 right? A lot of good that does.

6 people died.  Probably took 6-8 minutes for anyone with a gun to arrive.  Too long.  Threat could have been neutralized upon entry of school with 0 deaths.  I'll take that 100/100.  You wouldn't? 

You make no sense.

The first person the gunman approaches will die. Armed guards don't generally point their weapon at anyone walking the hallway. If I want to pull a gun out and kill you I will before you even know what happened.

Then I am free to start my spree.

It doesn't matter how many armed people there are. 

yikes....spoken like someone who has 0 training with firearms.  Sorry dude, sit this one out. 

lol...yeah because what I described just doesn't happen right?

that happens with unarmed people, UNARMED.  not with trained professionals.  Take the L on this one...cant win em all. 

Stoneman Douglas had an armed resource officer. Uvalde had one too. They were afraid to engage. but they were also trained professionals.

Gern Blansten

mickeyrat said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

ugh this is awful...thoughts and prayers as well. 

Do you know what 100 billion dollars could do in this country?  It could put two armed and trained security officers in every middle school, high school and university in the country.  Wouldn't that be nice?  I mean, if you're going to make a "gun free school zone", at least provide the school with a way of protecting itself.  It is my opinion, that in cases like these tragedies, more guns is the answer, not less.  

The police shot her. And an armed officer would be target #1 right? A lot of good that does.

6 people died.  Probably took 6-8 minutes for anyone with a gun to arrive.  Too long.  Threat could have been neutralized upon entry of school with 0 deaths.  I'll take that 100/100.  You wouldn't? 

You make no sense.

The first person the gunman approaches will die. Armed guards don't generally point their weapon at anyone walking the hallway. If I want to pull a gun out and kill you I will before you even know what happened.

Then I am free to start my spree.

It doesn't matter how many armed people there are. 

yikes....spoken like someone who has 0 training with firearms.  Sorry dude, sit this one out. 

lol...yeah because what I described just doesn't happen right?

that happens with unarmed people, UNARMED.  not with trained professionals.  Take the L on this one...cant win em all. 

Stoneman Douglas had an armed resource officer. Uvalde had one too. They were afraid to engage. but they were also trained professionals.

Exactly....you can throw all kinds of money at it and try to make it sound like armed guards will solve it but they won't. RECENT history proves this.

Now why is Borat ignoring that fact?

gimmesometruth27

uvalde had an entire police force standing in the hallway because they were terrified of the gun. so don't give me the "trained professional" bullshit.

Gern Blansten

https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1640459178031591425

josevolution

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