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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    That is so freaking crazy.  The tattoos I mean. Disturbing pos.  There’s a lot of talk on Reddit in the rio grande sub about how this guy and the driver down in Brownsville both had/have TB tats as well. (Tango Blast) which is a Texas gang affiliated with Mexican cartels who tend to do the cartel’s work in the cities throughout Texas in exchange for resources and protection. So this guy was covered in SS and swastikas and also had a TB tat on his hand? super confusing.  

    I’m doing more research on tango blast and trying to find pics now.
    Best of your luck in your search for the truth on the dark corners of the internet. 


    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2023/05/08/tracking-misinformation-about-the-allen-mass-shooting-and-response/

    Tracking misinformation about the Allen mass shooting and response

    No, Ted Cruz has not shared the same tweet after every mass shooting. Lies about the shooter’s race and motivations have also gone viral.

    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the
    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the victims of a mass shooting at Allen Premium Outlets in Allen on Monday, May 8, 2023. “I’m praying for these families and our nation,” Bueno, who used to work at the American Eagle outlet location, said. “It’s lost. This can’t keep happening.” A gunman fatally shot eight people and wounded seven others Saturday at the mall before being killed by a police officer.(Juan Figueroa / Staff Photographer)

    By Michael Williams

    9:29 AM on May 8, 2023 CDT

    After any massive tragedy, it’s common for bad actors to take advantage of a void in verified information to spread falsehoods — and for well-meaning yet unwitting members of the public to amplify that false information.

    The same happened after Saturday’s massacre at Allen Premium Outlets. In the days after the mass shooting, which killed eight people and wounded seven others, very little information has been shared by authorities and public officials.

    The name of the 33-year-old shooter, who was killed by a police officer, was not officially released until more than 24 hours after the killings. Two days later, the public is left wondering what motivated him to stop his car in the middle of a parking row at the massive mall, calmly open his door, level his rifle toward families enjoying their Saturday shopping trip and open fire.

    Here are a few examples of misinformation that have spread in the wake of the massacre in Allen:

     mass shooting

    Every new mass shooting brings out anger about the perceived apathy of elected officials and the lack of any meaningful progress on legislation that might have prevented the tragedies.

    After mass shootings in Texas, that anger is frequently aimed at Sen. Ted Cruz — but it’s partially amplified by tweets which falsely claim the senator uses the same tweet template after every mass-casualty tragedy.

    “Disrespectful & shameful,” read one tweet posted hours after the Allen shooting. “@tedcruz has duplicated the same tweet after every mass shooting in TX.” Attached to the tweet was a screenshot purporting to show a dozen tweets from Cruz posted after mass shootings.

    All tweets appear to follow the same template: “Heidi & I are fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in [CITY]. We are in close contact with local officials, but the precise details are still unfolding. Thank you to heroic law enforcement & first responders for acting so swiftly.”

    While Cruz did post that tweet after last May’s massacre at Robb Elementary in Uvalde that killed 19 students and two teachers, the notion that he copied and pasted the same tweet after shootings in New York, Sacramento, El Paso, Orlando and Pittsburg — as claimed by the viral tweet — is false.

    The doctored screenshot which falsely claims Cruz tweets the same thing has frequently gone viral after mass shootings over the past year. The one posted after the shooting in Allen had 2.2 million views and more than 3,000 retweets as of Monday morning.

    Twitter added a label debunking the tweet. After other people replied pointing out the information was false, the original poster was not demurred: “copy & paste here & some paraphrasing there doesn’t change the foundation of this post,” she said.

    The shooter was not an undocumented immigrant

    After the shooter’s name was revealed on Sunday, many bad actors honed in on his Hispanic ethnicity and wondered whether he might have been undocumented.

    “The shooter was likely a convict, and possibly an illegal alien and couldn’t legally own a firearm anyway!” one right-wing organization in Texas tweeted. “This wasn’t a gun problem- it’s an illegal alien, gang, drug use problem.”

    “Reports of the shooter have been circulating that the shooter was an illegal immigrant, but I CANNOT confirm this,” tweeted another Twitter user to his 122,000 followers.

    But the shooter was not undocumented — he was born in Dallas County in 1989, according to records obtained from the Texas Department of Health’s Bureau of Vital Statistics.

    Lie about shooter’s race, motivations gets hundreds of thousands of views

    Before the shooter was identified by authorities, one viral tweet falsely claimed he was Black. The tweet was posted by an account which frequently traffics racist and race-baiting ideas.

    “Black killers bragging and filming their White victims in the Allen Texas mass shooting event,” the tweet, which also contained a graphic video of the victims’ bodies, read. “The killer was heard yelling that the killing was Justice for Trayvon and that ‘all Whites must die.’” The tweet was later deleted, but a copy preserved by an online archive shows it had attained more than 500,000 views and 700 retweets just hours after it was posted.

    The same account later posted a picture of a man lying on the ground — possibly a victim of the Allen shooting — claiming he was the shooter.

    Twitter labeled the original tweet false, citing another video showing the shooter’s body. The shooter, Mauricio Garcia, was Hispanic.

    No evidence shooter was a gang member

    Other viral tweets honed in on the shooter’s ethnicity to spread unverified information about a potential affiliation with a gang or cartel.

    “I Can help Wonder if he was cartel or working for them,” read one tweet which had more than 476,000 views as of Monday morning. “CLOSE THE F------ BORDERS!” That account is a frequent poster of racist memes.

    “The Allen Texas shooting was 50 minutes away from me and the shooter was a Hispanic gang member,” read another tweet which had more than 4.6 million views as of Monday morning. “Likely tied to the cartel.”

    While little information has been publicly revealed about Garcia, there is no evidence he belonged to a gang or cartel. Garcia has no history of incarceration within the state prison system, Texas Department of Criminal Justice Director of Communications Amanda Hernandez confirmed. He had an active misdemeanor warrant for drug paraphernalia in Garland from 2020, according to police records.

    Federal authorities investigating the shooter’s motives are looking into whether he was interested in white supremacist ideology, according to The Associated Press.

    Good stuff, thanks.  Yeah, I went down the rabbit hole last night but like I said, I couldn’t find any conclusive evidence that he was TB affiliated.  Sure he has a Dallas tattoo on his hand but it lacked the number or defining cowboys star at least to my eyes.  The driver thought like I said it’s pretty much confirmed, and he’s still alive so we’ll hear more about it I’m sure.  His tat literally says tango blast, rgv and had the number. But you never know with the media these days, they don’t want to say too much about gang stuff, it’s not guns and he’s not white.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,004
    That is so freaking crazy.  The tattoos I mean. Disturbing pos.  There’s a lot of talk on Reddit in the rio grande sub about how this guy and the driver down in Brownsville both had/have TB tats as well. (Tango Blast) which is a Texas gang affiliated with Mexican cartels who tend to do the cartel’s work in the cities throughout Texas in exchange for resources and protection. So this guy was covered in SS and swastikas and also had a TB tat on his hand? super confusing.  

    I’m doing more research on tango blast and trying to find pics now.
    Best of your luck in your search for the truth on the dark corners of the internet. 


    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2023/05/08/tracking-misinformation-about-the-allen-mass-shooting-and-response/

    Tracking misinformation about the Allen mass shooting and response

    No, Ted Cruz has not shared the same tweet after every mass shooting. Lies about the shooter’s race and motivations have also gone viral.

    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the
    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the victims of a mass shooting at Allen Premium Outlets in Allen on Monday, May 8, 2023. “I’m praying for these families and our nation,” Bueno, who used to work at the American Eagle outlet location, said. “It’s lost. This can’t keep happening.” A gunman fatally shot eight people and wounded seven others Saturday at the mall before being killed by a police officer.(Juan Figueroa / Staff Photographer)

    By Michael Williams

    9:29 AM on May 8, 2023 CDT

    After any massive tragedy, it’s common for bad actors to take advantage of a void in verified information to spread falsehoods — and for well-meaning yet unwitting members of the public to amplify that false information.

    The same happened after Saturday’s massacre at Allen Premium Outlets. In the days after the mass shooting, which killed eight people and wounded seven others, very little information has been shared by authorities and public officials.

    The name of the 33-year-old shooter, who was killed by a police officer, was not officially released until more than 24 hours after the killings. Two days later, the public is left wondering what motivated him to stop his car in the middle of a parking row at the massive mall, calmly open his door, level his rifle toward families enjoying their Saturday shopping trip and open fire.

    Here are a few examples of misinformation that have spread in the wake of the massacre in Allen:

     mass shooting

    Every new mass shooting brings out anger about the perceived apathy of elected officials and the lack of any meaningful progress on legislation that might have prevented the tragedies.

    After mass shootings in Texas, that anger is frequently aimed at Sen. Ted Cruz — but it’s partially amplified by tweets which falsely claim the senator uses the same tweet template after every mass-casualty tragedy.

    “Disrespectful & shameful,” read one tweet posted hours after the Allen shooting. “@tedcruz has duplicated the same tweet after every mass shooting in TX.” Attached to the tweet was a screenshot purporting to show a dozen tweets from Cruz posted after mass shootings.

    All tweets appear to follow the same template: “Heidi & I are fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in [CITY]. We are in close contact with local officials, but the precise details are still unfolding. Thank you to heroic law enforcement & first responders for acting so swiftly.”

    While Cruz did post that tweet after last May’s massacre at Robb Elementary in Uvalde that killed 19 students and two teachers, the notion that he copied and pasted the same tweet after shootings in New York, Sacramento, El Paso, Orlando and Pittsburg — as claimed by the viral tweet — is false.

    The doctored screenshot which falsely claims Cruz tweets the same thing has frequently gone viral after mass shootings over the past year. The one posted after the shooting in Allen had 2.2 million views and more than 3,000 retweets as of Monday morning.

    Twitter added a label debunking the tweet. After other people replied pointing out the information was false, the original poster was not demurred: “copy & paste here & some paraphrasing there doesn’t change the foundation of this post,” she said.

    The shooter was not an undocumented immigrant

    After the shooter’s name was revealed on Sunday, many bad actors honed in on his Hispanic ethnicity and wondered whether he might have been undocumented.

    “The shooter was likely a convict, and possibly an illegal alien and couldn’t legally own a firearm anyway!” one right-wing organization in Texas tweeted. “This wasn’t a gun problem- it’s an illegal alien, gang, drug use problem.”

    “Reports of the shooter have been circulating that the shooter was an illegal immigrant, but I CANNOT confirm this,” tweeted another Twitter user to his 122,000 followers.

    But the shooter was not undocumented — he was born in Dallas County in 1989, according to records obtained from the Texas Department of Health’s Bureau of Vital Statistics.

    Lie about shooter’s race, motivations gets hundreds of thousands of views

    Before the shooter was identified by authorities, one viral tweet falsely claimed he was Black. The tweet was posted by an account which frequently traffics racist and race-baiting ideas.

    “Black killers bragging and filming their White victims in the Allen Texas mass shooting event,” the tweet, which also contained a graphic video of the victims’ bodies, read. “The killer was heard yelling that the killing was Justice for Trayvon and that ‘all Whites must die.’” The tweet was later deleted, but a copy preserved by an online archive shows it had attained more than 500,000 views and 700 retweets just hours after it was posted.

    The same account later posted a picture of a man lying on the ground — possibly a victim of the Allen shooting — claiming he was the shooter.

    Twitter labeled the original tweet false, citing another video showing the shooter’s body. The shooter, Mauricio Garcia, was Hispanic.

    No evidence shooter was a gang member

    Other viral tweets honed in on the shooter’s ethnicity to spread unverified information about a potential affiliation with a gang or cartel.

    “I Can help Wonder if he was cartel or working for them,” read one tweet which had more than 476,000 views as of Monday morning. “CLOSE THE F------ BORDERS!” That account is a frequent poster of racist memes.

    “The Allen Texas shooting was 50 minutes away from me and the shooter was a Hispanic gang member,” read another tweet which had more than 4.6 million views as of Monday morning. “Likely tied to the cartel.”

    While little information has been publicly revealed about Garcia, there is no evidence he belonged to a gang or cartel. Garcia has no history of incarceration within the state prison system, Texas Department of Criminal Justice Director of Communications Amanda Hernandez confirmed. He had an active misdemeanor warrant for drug paraphernalia in Garland from 2020, according to police records.

    Federal authorities investigating the shooter’s motives are looking into whether he was interested in white supremacist ideology, according to The Associated Press.

    Good stuff, thanks.  Yeah, I went down the rabbit hole last night but like I said, I couldn’t find any conclusive evidence that he was TB affiliated.  Sure he has a Dallas tattoo on his hand but it lacked the number or defining cowboys star at least to my eyes.  The driver thought like I said it’s pretty much confirmed, and he’s still alive so we’ll hear more about it I’m sure.  His tat literally says tango blast, rgv and had the number. But you never know with the media these days, they don’t want to say too much about gang stuff, it’s not guns and he’s not white.
    Can you let us know about the impending indictments though? Thanks.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    That is so freaking crazy.  The tattoos I mean. Disturbing pos.  There’s a lot of talk on Reddit in the rio grande sub about how this guy and the driver down in Brownsville both had/have TB tats as well. (Tango Blast) which is a Texas gang affiliated with Mexican cartels who tend to do the cartel’s work in the cities throughout Texas in exchange for resources and protection. So this guy was covered in SS and swastikas and also had a TB tat on his hand? super confusing.  

    I’m doing more research on tango blast and trying to find pics now.
    Best of your luck in your search for the truth on the dark corners of the internet. 


    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2023/05/08/tracking-misinformation-about-the-allen-mass-shooting-and-response/

    Tracking misinformation about the Allen mass shooting and response

    No, Ted Cruz has not shared the same tweet after every mass shooting. Lies about the shooter’s race and motivations have also gone viral.

    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the
    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the victims of a mass shooting at Allen Premium Outlets in Allen on Monday, May 8, 2023. “I’m praying for these families and our nation,” Bueno, who used to work at the American Eagle outlet location, said. “It’s lost. This can’t keep happening.” A gunman fatally shot eight people and wounded seven others Saturday at the mall before being killed by a police officer.(Juan Figueroa / Staff Photographer)

    By Michael Williams

    9:29 AM on May 8, 2023 CDT

    After any massive tragedy, it’s common for bad actors to take advantage of a void in verified information to spread falsehoods — and for well-meaning yet unwitting members of the public to amplify that false information.

    The same happened after Saturday’s massacre at Allen Premium Outlets. In the days after the mass shooting, which killed eight people and wounded seven others, very little information has been shared by authorities and public officials.

    The name of the 33-year-old shooter, who was killed by a police officer, was not officially released until more than 24 hours after the killings. Two days later, the public is left wondering what motivated him to stop his car in the middle of a parking row at the massive mall, calmly open his door, level his rifle toward families enjoying their Saturday shopping trip and open fire.

    Here are a few examples of misinformation that have spread in the wake of the massacre in Allen:

     mass shooting

    Every new mass shooting brings out anger about the perceived apathy of elected officials and the lack of any meaningful progress on legislation that might have prevented the tragedies.

    After mass shootings in Texas, that anger is frequently aimed at Sen. Ted Cruz — but it’s partially amplified by tweets which falsely claim the senator uses the same tweet template after every mass-casualty tragedy.

    “Disrespectful & shameful,” read one tweet posted hours after the Allen shooting. “@tedcruz has duplicated the same tweet after every mass shooting in TX.” Attached to the tweet was a screenshot purporting to show a dozen tweets from Cruz posted after mass shootings.

    All tweets appear to follow the same template: “Heidi & I are fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in [CITY]. We are in close contact with local officials, but the precise details are still unfolding. Thank you to heroic law enforcement & first responders for acting so swiftly.”

    While Cruz did post that tweet after last May’s massacre at Robb Elementary in Uvalde that killed 19 students and two teachers, the notion that he copied and pasted the same tweet after shootings in New York, Sacramento, El Paso, Orlando and Pittsburg — as claimed by the viral tweet — is false.

    The doctored screenshot which falsely claims Cruz tweets the same thing has frequently gone viral after mass shootings over the past year. The one posted after the shooting in Allen had 2.2 million views and more than 3,000 retweets as of Monday morning.

    Twitter added a label debunking the tweet. After other people replied pointing out the information was false, the original poster was not demurred: “copy & paste here & some paraphrasing there doesn’t change the foundation of this post,” she said.

    The shooter was not an undocumented immigrant

    After the shooter’s name was revealed on Sunday, many bad actors honed in on his Hispanic ethnicity and wondered whether he might have been undocumented.

    “The shooter was likely a convict, and possibly an illegal alien and couldn’t legally own a firearm anyway!” one right-wing organization in Texas tweeted. “This wasn’t a gun problem- it’s an illegal alien, gang, drug use problem.”

    “Reports of the shooter have been circulating that the shooter was an illegal immigrant, but I CANNOT confirm this,” tweeted another Twitter user to his 122,000 followers.

    But the shooter was not undocumented — he was born in Dallas County in 1989, according to records obtained from the Texas Department of Health’s Bureau of Vital Statistics.

    Lie about shooter’s race, motivations gets hundreds of thousands of views

    Before the shooter was identified by authorities, one viral tweet falsely claimed he was Black. The tweet was posted by an account which frequently traffics racist and race-baiting ideas.

    “Black killers bragging and filming their White victims in the Allen Texas mass shooting event,” the tweet, which also contained a graphic video of the victims’ bodies, read. “The killer was heard yelling that the killing was Justice for Trayvon and that ‘all Whites must die.’” The tweet was later deleted, but a copy preserved by an online archive shows it had attained more than 500,000 views and 700 retweets just hours after it was posted.

    The same account later posted a picture of a man lying on the ground — possibly a victim of the Allen shooting — claiming he was the shooter.

    Twitter labeled the original tweet false, citing another video showing the shooter’s body. The shooter, Mauricio Garcia, was Hispanic.

    No evidence shooter was a gang member

    Other viral tweets honed in on the shooter’s ethnicity to spread unverified information about a potential affiliation with a gang or cartel.

    “I Can help Wonder if he was cartel or working for them,” read one tweet which had more than 476,000 views as of Monday morning. “CLOSE THE F------ BORDERS!” That account is a frequent poster of racist memes.

    “The Allen Texas shooting was 50 minutes away from me and the shooter was a Hispanic gang member,” read another tweet which had more than 4.6 million views as of Monday morning. “Likely tied to the cartel.”

    While little information has been publicly revealed about Garcia, there is no evidence he belonged to a gang or cartel. Garcia has no history of incarceration within the state prison system, Texas Department of Criminal Justice Director of Communications Amanda Hernandez confirmed. He had an active misdemeanor warrant for drug paraphernalia in Garland from 2020, according to police records.

    Federal authorities investigating the shooter’s motives are looking into whether he was interested in white supremacist ideology, according to The Associated Press.

    Good stuff, thanks.  Yeah, I went down the rabbit hole last night but like I said, I couldn’t find any conclusive evidence that he was TB affiliated.  Sure he has a Dallas tattoo on his hand but it lacked the number or defining cowboys star at least to my eyes.  The driver thought like I said it’s pretty much confirmed, and he’s still alive so we’ll hear more about it I’m sure.  His tat literally says tango blast, rgv and had the number. But you never know with the media these days, they don’t want to say too much about gang stuff, it’s not guns and he’s not white.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    That is so freaking crazy.  The tattoos I mean. Disturbing pos.  There’s a lot of talk on Reddit in the rio grande sub about how this guy and the driver down in Brownsville both had/have TB tats as well. (Tango Blast) which is a Texas gang affiliated with Mexican cartels who tend to do the cartel’s work in the cities throughout Texas in exchange for resources and protection. So this guy was covered in SS and swastikas and also had a TB tat on his hand? super confusing.  

    I’m doing more research on tango blast and trying to find pics now.
    Best of your luck in your search for the truth on the dark corners of the internet. 


    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2023/05/08/tracking-misinformation-about-the-allen-mass-shooting-and-response/

    Tracking misinformation about the Allen mass shooting and response

    No, Ted Cruz has not shared the same tweet after every mass shooting. Lies about the shooter’s race and motivations have also gone viral.

    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the
    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the victims of a mass shooting at Allen Premium Outlets in Allen on Monday, May 8, 2023. “I’m praying for these families and our nation,” Bueno, who used to work at the American Eagle outlet location, said. “It’s lost. This can’t keep happening.” A gunman fatally shot eight people and wounded seven others Saturday at the mall before being killed by a police officer.(Juan Figueroa / Staff Photographer)

    By Michael Williams

    9:29 AM on May 8, 2023 CDT

    After any massive tragedy, it’s common for bad actors to take advantage of a void in verified information to spread falsehoods — and for well-meaning yet unwitting members of the public to amplify that false information.

    The same happened after Saturday’s massacre at Allen Premium Outlets. In the days after the mass shooting, which killed eight people and wounded seven others, very little information has been shared by authorities and public officials.

    The name of the 33-year-old shooter, who was killed by a police officer, was not officially released until more than 24 hours after the killings. Two days later, the public is left wondering what motivated him to stop his car in the middle of a parking row at the massive mall, calmly open his door, level his rifle toward families enjoying their Saturday shopping trip and open fire.

    Here are a few examples of misinformation that have spread in the wake of the massacre in Allen:

     mass shooting

    Every new mass shooting brings out anger about the perceived apathy of elected officials and the lack of any meaningful progress on legislation that might have prevented the tragedies.

    After mass shootings in Texas, that anger is frequently aimed at Sen. Ted Cruz — but it’s partially amplified by tweets which falsely claim the senator uses the same tweet template after every mass-casualty tragedy.

    “Disrespectful & shameful,” read one tweet posted hours after the Allen shooting. “@tedcruz has duplicated the same tweet after every mass shooting in TX.” Attached to the tweet was a screenshot purporting to show a dozen tweets from Cruz posted after mass shootings.

    All tweets appear to follow the same template: “Heidi & I are fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in [CITY]. We are in close contact with local officials, but the precise details are still unfolding. Thank you to heroic law enforcement & first responders for acting so swiftly.”

    While Cruz did post that tweet after last May’s massacre at Robb Elementary in Uvalde that killed 19 students and two teachers, the notion that he copied and pasted the same tweet after shootings in New York, Sacramento, El Paso, Orlando and Pittsburg — as claimed by the viral tweet — is false.

    The doctored screenshot which falsely claims Cruz tweets the same thing has frequently gone viral after mass shootings over the past year. The one posted after the shooting in Allen had 2.2 million views and more than 3,000 retweets as of Monday morning.

    Twitter added a label debunking the tweet. After other people replied pointing out the information was false, the original poster was not demurred: “copy & paste here & some paraphrasing there doesn’t change the foundation of this post,” she said.

    The shooter was not an undocumented immigrant

    After the shooter’s name was revealed on Sunday, many bad actors honed in on his Hispanic ethnicity and wondered whether he might have been undocumented.

    “The shooter was likely a convict, and possibly an illegal alien and couldn’t legally own a firearm anyway!” one right-wing organization in Texas tweeted. “This wasn’t a gun problem- it’s an illegal alien, gang, drug use problem.”

    “Reports of the shooter have been circulating that the shooter was an illegal immigrant, but I CANNOT confirm this,” tweeted another Twitter user to his 122,000 followers.

    But the shooter was not undocumented — he was born in Dallas County in 1989, according to records obtained from the Texas Department of Health’s Bureau of Vital Statistics.

    Lie about shooter’s race, motivations gets hundreds of thousands of views

    Before the shooter was identified by authorities, one viral tweet falsely claimed he was Black. The tweet was posted by an account which frequently traffics racist and race-baiting ideas.

    “Black killers bragging and filming their White victims in the Allen Texas mass shooting event,” the tweet, which also contained a graphic video of the victims’ bodies, read. “The killer was heard yelling that the killing was Justice for Trayvon and that ‘all Whites must die.’” The tweet was later deleted, but a copy preserved by an online archive shows it had attained more than 500,000 views and 700 retweets just hours after it was posted.

    The same account later posted a picture of a man lying on the ground — possibly a victim of the Allen shooting — claiming he was the shooter.

    Twitter labeled the original tweet false, citing another video showing the shooter’s body. The shooter, Mauricio Garcia, was Hispanic.

    No evidence shooter was a gang member

    Other viral tweets honed in on the shooter’s ethnicity to spread unverified information about a potential affiliation with a gang or cartel.

    “I Can help Wonder if he was cartel or working for them,” read one tweet which had more than 476,000 views as of Monday morning. “CLOSE THE F------ BORDERS!” That account is a frequent poster of racist memes.

    “The Allen Texas shooting was 50 minutes away from me and the shooter was a Hispanic gang member,” read another tweet which had more than 4.6 million views as of Monday morning. “Likely tied to the cartel.”

    While little information has been publicly revealed about Garcia, there is no evidence he belonged to a gang or cartel. Garcia has no history of incarceration within the state prison system, Texas Department of Criminal Justice Director of Communications Amanda Hernandez confirmed. He had an active misdemeanor warrant for drug paraphernalia in Garland from 2020, according to police records.

    Federal authorities investigating the shooter’s motives are looking into whether he was interested in white supremacist ideology, according to The Associated Press.

    Good stuff, thanks.  Yeah, I went down the rabbit hole last night but like I said, I couldn’t find any conclusive evidence that he was TB affiliated.  Sure he has a Dallas tattoo on his hand but it lacked the number or defining cowboys star at least to my eyes.  The driver thought like I said it’s pretty much confirmed, and he’s still alive so we’ll hear more about it I’m sure.  His tat literally says tango blast, rgv and had the number. But you never know with the media these days, they don’t want to say too much about gang stuff, it’s not guns and he’s not white.
    Can you let us know about the impending indictments though? Thanks.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    That is so freaking crazy.  The tattoos I mean. Disturbing pos.  There’s a lot of talk on Reddit in the rio grande sub about how this guy and the driver down in Brownsville both had/have TB tats as well. (Tango Blast) which is a Texas gang affiliated with Mexican cartels who tend to do the cartel’s work in the cities throughout Texas in exchange for resources and protection. So this guy was covered in SS and swastikas and also had a TB tat on his hand? super confusing.  

    I’m doing more research on tango blast and trying to find pics now.
    Best of your luck in your search for the truth on the dark corners of the internet. 


    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2023/05/08/tracking-misinformation-about-the-allen-mass-shooting-and-response/

    Tracking misinformation about the Allen mass shooting and response

    No, Ted Cruz has not shared the same tweet after every mass shooting. Lies about the shooter’s race and motivations have also gone viral.

    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the
    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the victims of a mass shooting at Allen Premium Outlets in Allen on Monday, May 8, 2023. “I’m praying for these families and our nation,” Bueno, who used to work at the American Eagle outlet location, said. “It’s lost. This can’t keep happening.” A gunman fatally shot eight people and wounded seven others Saturday at the mall before being killed by a police officer.(Juan Figueroa / Staff Photographer)

    By Michael Williams

    9:29 AM on May 8, 2023 CDT

    After any massive tragedy, it’s common for bad actors to take advantage of a void in verified information to spread falsehoods — and for well-meaning yet unwitting members of the public to amplify that false information.

    The same happened after Saturday’s massacre at Allen Premium Outlets. In the days after the mass shooting, which killed eight people and wounded seven others, very little information has been shared by authorities and public officials.

    The name of the 33-year-old shooter, who was killed by a police officer, was not officially released until more than 24 hours after the killings. Two days later, the public is left wondering what motivated him to stop his car in the middle of a parking row at the massive mall, calmly open his door, level his rifle toward families enjoying their Saturday shopping trip and open fire.

    Here are a few examples of misinformation that have spread in the wake of the massacre in Allen:

     mass shooting

    Every new mass shooting brings out anger about the perceived apathy of elected officials and the lack of any meaningful progress on legislation that might have prevented the tragedies.

    After mass shootings in Texas, that anger is frequently aimed at Sen. Ted Cruz — but it’s partially amplified by tweets which falsely claim the senator uses the same tweet template after every mass-casualty tragedy.

    “Disrespectful & shameful,” read one tweet posted hours after the Allen shooting. “@tedcruz has duplicated the same tweet after every mass shooting in TX.” Attached to the tweet was a screenshot purporting to show a dozen tweets from Cruz posted after mass shootings.

    All tweets appear to follow the same template: “Heidi & I are fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in [CITY]. We are in close contact with local officials, but the precise details are still unfolding. Thank you to heroic law enforcement & first responders for acting so swiftly.”

    While Cruz did post that tweet after last May’s massacre at Robb Elementary in Uvalde that killed 19 students and two teachers, the notion that he copied and pasted the same tweet after shootings in New York, Sacramento, El Paso, Orlando and Pittsburg — as claimed by the viral tweet — is false.

    The doctored screenshot which falsely claims Cruz tweets the same thing has frequently gone viral after mass shootings over the past year. The one posted after the shooting in Allen had 2.2 million views and more than 3,000 retweets as of Monday morning.

    Twitter added a label debunking the tweet. After other people replied pointing out the information was false, the original poster was not demurred: “copy & paste here & some paraphrasing there doesn’t change the foundation of this post,” she said.

    The shooter was not an undocumented immigrant

    After the shooter’s name was revealed on Sunday, many bad actors honed in on his Hispanic ethnicity and wondered whether he might have been undocumented.

    “The shooter was likely a convict, and possibly an illegal alien and couldn’t legally own a firearm anyway!” one right-wing organization in Texas tweeted. “This wasn’t a gun problem- it’s an illegal alien, gang, drug use problem.”

    “Reports of the shooter have been circulating that the shooter was an illegal immigrant, but I CANNOT confirm this,” tweeted another Twitter user to his 122,000 followers.

    But the shooter was not undocumented — he was born in Dallas County in 1989, according to records obtained from the Texas Department of Health’s Bureau of Vital Statistics.

    Lie about shooter’s race, motivations gets hundreds of thousands of views

    Before the shooter was identified by authorities, one viral tweet falsely claimed he was Black. The tweet was posted by an account which frequently traffics racist and race-baiting ideas.

    “Black killers bragging and filming their White victims in the Allen Texas mass shooting event,” the tweet, which also contained a graphic video of the victims’ bodies, read. “The killer was heard yelling that the killing was Justice for Trayvon and that ‘all Whites must die.’” The tweet was later deleted, but a copy preserved by an online archive shows it had attained more than 500,000 views and 700 retweets just hours after it was posted.

    The same account later posted a picture of a man lying on the ground — possibly a victim of the Allen shooting — claiming he was the shooter.

    Twitter labeled the original tweet false, citing another video showing the shooter’s body. The shooter, Mauricio Garcia, was Hispanic.

    No evidence shooter was a gang member

    Other viral tweets honed in on the shooter’s ethnicity to spread unverified information about a potential affiliation with a gang or cartel.

    “I Can help Wonder if he was cartel or working for them,” read one tweet which had more than 476,000 views as of Monday morning. “CLOSE THE F------ BORDERS!” That account is a frequent poster of racist memes.

    “The Allen Texas shooting was 50 minutes away from me and the shooter was a Hispanic gang member,” read another tweet which had more than 4.6 million views as of Monday morning. “Likely tied to the cartel.”

    While little information has been publicly revealed about Garcia, there is no evidence he belonged to a gang or cartel. Garcia has no history of incarceration within the state prison system, Texas Department of Criminal Justice Director of Communications Amanda Hernandez confirmed. He had an active misdemeanor warrant for drug paraphernalia in Garland from 2020, according to police records.

    Federal authorities investigating the shooter’s motives are looking into whether he was interested in white supremacist ideology, according to The Associated Press.

    Good stuff, thanks.  Yeah, I went down the rabbit hole last night but like I said, I couldn’t find any conclusive evidence that he was TB affiliated.  Sure he has a Dallas tattoo on his hand but it lacked the number or defining cowboys star at least to my eyes.  The driver thought like I said it’s pretty much confirmed, and he’s still alive so we’ll hear more about it I’m sure.  His tat literally says tango blast, rgv and had the number. But you never know with the media these days, they don’t want to say too much about gang stuff, it’s not guns and he’s not white.
    You're telling on yourself something fierce. 
    Well, none the less, I am sure the never ending research will continue....
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,004
    That is so freaking crazy.  The tattoos I mean. Disturbing pos.  There’s a lot of talk on Reddit in the rio grande sub about how this guy and the driver down in Brownsville both had/have TB tats as well. (Tango Blast) which is a Texas gang affiliated with Mexican cartels who tend to do the cartel’s work in the cities throughout Texas in exchange for resources and protection. So this guy was covered in SS and swastikas and also had a TB tat on his hand? super confusing.  

    I’m doing more research on tango blast and trying to find pics now.
    Best of your luck in your search for the truth on the dark corners of the internet. 


    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2023/05/08/tracking-misinformation-about-the-allen-mass-shooting-and-response/

    Tracking misinformation about the Allen mass shooting and response

    No, Ted Cruz has not shared the same tweet after every mass shooting. Lies about the shooter’s race and motivations have also gone viral.

    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the
    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the victims of a mass shooting at Allen Premium Outlets in Allen on Monday, May 8, 2023. “I’m praying for these families and our nation,” Bueno, who used to work at the American Eagle outlet location, said. “It’s lost. This can’t keep happening.” A gunman fatally shot eight people and wounded seven others Saturday at the mall before being killed by a police officer.(Juan Figueroa / Staff Photographer)

    By Michael Williams

    9:29 AM on May 8, 2023 CDT

    After any massive tragedy, it’s common for bad actors to take advantage of a void in verified information to spread falsehoods — and for well-meaning yet unwitting members of the public to amplify that false information.

    The same happened after Saturday’s massacre at Allen Premium Outlets. In the days after the mass shooting, which killed eight people and wounded seven others, very little information has been shared by authorities and public officials.

    The name of the 33-year-old shooter, who was killed by a police officer, was not officially released until more than 24 hours after the killings. Two days later, the public is left wondering what motivated him to stop his car in the middle of a parking row at the massive mall, calmly open his door, level his rifle toward families enjoying their Saturday shopping trip and open fire.

    Here are a few examples of misinformation that have spread in the wake of the massacre in Allen:

     mass shooting

    Every new mass shooting brings out anger about the perceived apathy of elected officials and the lack of any meaningful progress on legislation that might have prevented the tragedies.

    After mass shootings in Texas, that anger is frequently aimed at Sen. Ted Cruz — but it’s partially amplified by tweets which falsely claim the senator uses the same tweet template after every mass-casualty tragedy.

    “Disrespectful & shameful,” read one tweet posted hours after the Allen shooting. “@tedcruz has duplicated the same tweet after every mass shooting in TX.” Attached to the tweet was a screenshot purporting to show a dozen tweets from Cruz posted after mass shootings.

    All tweets appear to follow the same template: “Heidi & I are fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in [CITY]. We are in close contact with local officials, but the precise details are still unfolding. Thank you to heroic law enforcement & first responders for acting so swiftly.”

    While Cruz did post that tweet after last May’s massacre at Robb Elementary in Uvalde that killed 19 students and two teachers, the notion that he copied and pasted the same tweet after shootings in New York, Sacramento, El Paso, Orlando and Pittsburg — as claimed by the viral tweet — is false.

    The doctored screenshot which falsely claims Cruz tweets the same thing has frequently gone viral after mass shootings over the past year. The one posted after the shooting in Allen had 2.2 million views and more than 3,000 retweets as of Monday morning.

    Twitter added a label debunking the tweet. After other people replied pointing out the information was false, the original poster was not demurred: “copy & paste here & some paraphrasing there doesn’t change the foundation of this post,” she said.

    The shooter was not an undocumented immigrant

    After the shooter’s name was revealed on Sunday, many bad actors honed in on his Hispanic ethnicity and wondered whether he might have been undocumented.

    “The shooter was likely a convict, and possibly an illegal alien and couldn’t legally own a firearm anyway!” one right-wing organization in Texas tweeted. “This wasn’t a gun problem- it’s an illegal alien, gang, drug use problem.”

    “Reports of the shooter have been circulating that the shooter was an illegal immigrant, but I CANNOT confirm this,” tweeted another Twitter user to his 122,000 followers.

    But the shooter was not undocumented — he was born in Dallas County in 1989, according to records obtained from the Texas Department of Health’s Bureau of Vital Statistics.

    Lie about shooter’s race, motivations gets hundreds of thousands of views

    Before the shooter was identified by authorities, one viral tweet falsely claimed he was Black. The tweet was posted by an account which frequently traffics racist and race-baiting ideas.

    “Black killers bragging and filming their White victims in the Allen Texas mass shooting event,” the tweet, which also contained a graphic video of the victims’ bodies, read. “The killer was heard yelling that the killing was Justice for Trayvon and that ‘all Whites must die.’” The tweet was later deleted, but a copy preserved by an online archive shows it had attained more than 500,000 views and 700 retweets just hours after it was posted.

    The same account later posted a picture of a man lying on the ground — possibly a victim of the Allen shooting — claiming he was the shooter.

    Twitter labeled the original tweet false, citing another video showing the shooter’s body. The shooter, Mauricio Garcia, was Hispanic.

    No evidence shooter was a gang member

    Other viral tweets honed in on the shooter’s ethnicity to spread unverified information about a potential affiliation with a gang or cartel.

    “I Can help Wonder if he was cartel or working for them,” read one tweet which had more than 476,000 views as of Monday morning. “CLOSE THE F------ BORDERS!” That account is a frequent poster of racist memes.

    “The Allen Texas shooting was 50 minutes away from me and the shooter was a Hispanic gang member,” read another tweet which had more than 4.6 million views as of Monday morning. “Likely tied to the cartel.”

    While little information has been publicly revealed about Garcia, there is no evidence he belonged to a gang or cartel. Garcia has no history of incarceration within the state prison system, Texas Department of Criminal Justice Director of Communications Amanda Hernandez confirmed. He had an active misdemeanor warrant for drug paraphernalia in Garland from 2020, according to police records.

    Federal authorities investigating the shooter’s motives are looking into whether he was interested in white supremacist ideology, according to The Associated Press.

    Good stuff, thanks.  Yeah, I went down the rabbit hole last night but like I said, I couldn’t find any conclusive evidence that he was TB affiliated.  Sure he has a Dallas tattoo on his hand but it lacked the number or defining cowboys star at least to my eyes.  The driver thought like I said it’s pretty much confirmed, and he’s still alive so we’ll hear more about it I’m sure.  His tat literally says tango blast, rgv and had the number. But you never know with the media these days, they don’t want to say too much about gang stuff, it’s not guns and he’s not white.
    Can you let us know about the impending indictments though? Thanks.
    Wrong thread. I thought there were mods here
    Ask to have it moved but while you’re here, how long before the media doesn’t report on the indictment of the driver? For thread integrity, of course.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    That is so freaking crazy.  The tattoos I mean. Disturbing pos.  There’s a lot of talk on Reddit in the rio grande sub about how this guy and the driver down in Brownsville both had/have TB tats as well. (Tango Blast) which is a Texas gang affiliated with Mexican cartels who tend to do the cartel’s work in the cities throughout Texas in exchange for resources and protection. So this guy was covered in SS and swastikas and also had a TB tat on his hand? super confusing.  

    I’m doing more research on tango blast and trying to find pics now.
    Best of your luck in your search for the truth on the dark corners of the internet. 


    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2023/05/08/tracking-misinformation-about-the-allen-mass-shooting-and-response/

    Tracking misinformation about the Allen mass shooting and response

    No, Ted Cruz has not shared the same tweet after every mass shooting. Lies about the shooter’s race and motivations have also gone viral.

    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the
    Juan Bueno of Richardson prays in front of the memorial outside the mall honoring the victims of a mass shooting at Allen Premium Outlets in Allen on Monday, May 8, 2023. “I’m praying for these families and our nation,” Bueno, who used to work at the American Eagle outlet location, said. “It’s lost. This can’t keep happening.” A gunman fatally shot eight people and wounded seven others Saturday at the mall before being killed by a police officer.(Juan Figueroa / Staff Photographer)

    By Michael Williams

    9:29 AM on May 8, 2023 CDT

    After any massive tragedy, it’s common for bad actors to take advantage of a void in verified information to spread falsehoods — and for well-meaning yet unwitting members of the public to amplify that false information.

    The same happened after Saturday’s massacre at Allen Premium Outlets. In the days after the mass shooting, which killed eight people and wounded seven others, very little information has been shared by authorities and public officials.

    The name of the 33-year-old shooter, who was killed by a police officer, was not officially released until more than 24 hours after the killings. Two days later, the public is left wondering what motivated him to stop his car in the middle of a parking row at the massive mall, calmly open his door, level his rifle toward families enjoying their Saturday shopping trip and open fire.

    Here are a few examples of misinformation that have spread in the wake of the massacre in Allen:

     mass shooting

    Every new mass shooting brings out anger about the perceived apathy of elected officials and the lack of any meaningful progress on legislation that might have prevented the tragedies.

    After mass shootings in Texas, that anger is frequently aimed at Sen. Ted Cruz — but it’s partially amplified by tweets which falsely claim the senator uses the same tweet template after every mass-casualty tragedy.

    “Disrespectful & shameful,” read one tweet posted hours after the Allen shooting. “@tedcruz has duplicated the same tweet after every mass shooting in TX.” Attached to the tweet was a screenshot purporting to show a dozen tweets from Cruz posted after mass shootings.

    All tweets appear to follow the same template: “Heidi & I are fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in [CITY]. We are in close contact with local officials, but the precise details are still unfolding. Thank you to heroic law enforcement & first responders for acting so swiftly.”

    While Cruz did post that tweet after last May’s massacre at Robb Elementary in Uvalde that killed 19 students and two teachers, the notion that he copied and pasted the same tweet after shootings in New York, Sacramento, El Paso, Orlando and Pittsburg — as claimed by the viral tweet — is false.

    The doctored screenshot which falsely claims Cruz tweets the same thing has frequently gone viral after mass shootings over the past year. The one posted after the shooting in Allen had 2.2 million views and more than 3,000 retweets as of Monday morning.

    Twitter added a label debunking the tweet. After other people replied pointing out the information was false, the original poster was not demurred: “copy & paste here & some paraphrasing there doesn’t change the foundation of this post,” she said.

    The shooter was not an undocumented immigrant

    After the shooter’s name was revealed on Sunday, many bad actors honed in on his Hispanic ethnicity and wondered whether he might have been undocumented.

    “The shooter was likely a convict, and possibly an illegal alien and couldn’t legally own a firearm anyway!” one right-wing organization in Texas tweeted. “This wasn’t a gun problem- it’s an illegal alien, gang, drug use problem.”

    “Reports of the shooter have been circulating that the shooter was an illegal immigrant, but I CANNOT confirm this,” tweeted another Twitter user to his 122,000 followers.

    But the shooter was not undocumented — he was born in Dallas County in 1989, according to records obtained from the Texas Department of Health’s Bureau of Vital Statistics.

    Lie about shooter’s race, motivations gets hundreds of thousands of views

    Before the shooter was identified by authorities, one viral tweet falsely claimed he was Black. The tweet was posted by an account which frequently traffics racist and race-baiting ideas.

    “Black killers bragging and filming their White victims in the Allen Texas mass shooting event,” the tweet, which also contained a graphic video of the victims’ bodies, read. “The killer was heard yelling that the killing was Justice for Trayvon and that ‘all Whites must die.’” The tweet was later deleted, but a copy preserved by an online archive shows it had attained more than 500,000 views and 700 retweets just hours after it was posted.

    The same account later posted a picture of a man lying on the ground — possibly a victim of the Allen shooting — claiming he was the shooter.

    Twitter labeled the original tweet false, citing another video showing the shooter’s body. The shooter, Mauricio Garcia, was Hispanic.

    No evidence shooter was a gang member

    Other viral tweets honed in on the shooter’s ethnicity to spread unverified information about a potential affiliation with a gang or cartel.

    “I Can help Wonder if he was cartel or working for them,” read one tweet which had more than 476,000 views as of Monday morning. “CLOSE THE F------ BORDERS!” That account is a frequent poster of racist memes.

    “The Allen Texas shooting was 50 minutes away from me and the shooter was a Hispanic gang member,” read another tweet which had more than 4.6 million views as of Monday morning. “Likely tied to the cartel.”

    While little information has been publicly revealed about Garcia, there is no evidence he belonged to a gang or cartel. Garcia has no history of incarceration within the state prison system, Texas Department of Criminal Justice Director of Communications Amanda Hernandez confirmed. He had an active misdemeanor warrant for drug paraphernalia in Garland from 2020, according to police records.

    Federal authorities investigating the shooter’s motives are looking into whether he was interested in white supremacist ideology, according to The Associated Press.

    Good stuff, thanks.  Yeah, I went down the rabbit hole last night but like I said, I couldn’t find any conclusive evidence that he was TB affiliated.  Sure he has a Dallas tattoo on his hand but it lacked the number or defining cowboys star at least to my eyes.  The driver thought like I said it’s pretty much confirmed, and he’s still alive so we’ll hear more about it I’m sure.  His tat literally says tango blast, rgv and had the number. But you never know with the media these days, they don’t want to say too much about gang stuff, it’s not guns and he’s not white.
    Can you let us know about the impending indictments though? Thanks.
    Wrong thread. I thought there were mods here
    Ask to have it moved but while you’re here, how long before the media doesn’t report on the indictment of the driver? For thread integrity, of course.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

    who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

    who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 
    Every member of that family should've been wearing bullet proof vests and packing heat. 
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

    who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 
    Why the hell did we spend years saying it was the white religious guy then?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

    who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 
    Why the hell did we spend years saying it was the white religious guy then?
    I get it. I'm just in the anger phase of this pissing contest of "it wasn't MY team" after every fucking shooting. 
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  • mickeyrat
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,205
    a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

    who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 
    We’ll Never get past this. Unfortunately, the race and politics of the shooter is alway most important to
    both sides. Was he white? Yay! Was he not white? Yay! It’s disgusting. Again, division over solutions. 
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

    who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 
    Why the hell did we spend years saying it was the white religious guy then?
    I get it. I'm just in the anger phase of this pissing contest of "it wasn't MY team" after every fucking shooting. 
    Totally agree. The media has fucked us to the point that it’s the first thing we all want to know.  Personally I am interested in the gang/cartel stuff because of where I live and it’s always on my mind.  Austin crime has been out of control for the last several years, my own daughter had a classmate OD on fentanyl a few months ago at her desk next to her, and just today I heard a good friend of hers that was missing for months was rescued from a human trafficking cartel bust and then promptly killed herself after being rescued.  So that’s where my desire stemmed from- if just like to know how much of what is going on around here on the daily is due to our border situation
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  • Gern Blansten
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    But race and politics is relevant. When white GOP politicians are constantly posting photos/videos of themselves using assault weapons, showing family photos with their kids holding weapons, creating legislation that allows anyone who wants a gun to buy one, we have to take a look at all that shit.
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    “Running away.” “Shadows.” Boo! ‘Murica, biggest country of pussies ever.

    Louisiana man shoots girl playing hide-and-seek on his property, police say

    A Louisiana man has been charged after police said he shot a 14-year-old girl in the back of the head after she had been playing hide-and-seek on his property.

    The shooting occurred Sunday morning in Starks, La., a rural town of fewer than 700 people near the border with Texas. Officers from the Calcasieu Parish Sheriff’s Office received reports of a shooting at a property there, the office said in a news release. When they arrived, they found the girl suffering from a gunshot wound. She was taken to a hospital with injuries that weren’t life-threatening, the release said.

    The release said children had been playing hide-and-seek in the area and hiding on David V. Doyle’s property. Doyle, 58, told officers he got his gun after seeing “shadows outside his home.”

    Doyle “then advised detectives he went back outside and observed people running away from his property, at which time he began shooting at them and unknowingly hit the girl,” according to the release.

    The incident is the latest in a string of U.S. shootings this year in which young people have been shot — some fatally — after mistakenly being in the wrong location.

    Police arrested Doyle and charged him with aggravated battery, four counts of aggravated assault with a firearm and illegal discharge of a firearm. He remained in custody Tuesday morning at the Calcasieu Correctional Center, with bond set at $300,000.

    Last month, four similar shootings occurred in one week.

    On April 13, Ralph Yarl was shot in the head by a homeowner in Kansas City, Mo., after he rang the doorbell, thinking it was the house where he was to pick up his younger twin brothers. Yarl, 16, was critically injured but survived.

    Two days later, a man shot and killed 20-year-old Kaylin Gillis after she and her friends mistakenly pulled into his driveway in the town of Hebron in Upstate New York. The group was looking for a friend’s house.

    Two young women also were shot in Texas — with one of them, 18-year-old Payton Washington, critically injured — after Washington got into the wrong car in a grocery store parking lot.

    On the same day, a man shot 6-year-old Kinsley White and her parents in Gastonia, N.C. Carolyn Hilderbrand, the girl’s grandmother, told The Washington Post that the shooter became enraged when a basketball that children were playing with rolled into his yard.

    In addition to gun violence affecting one, two or three victims, the United States has also logged more than 200 mass shootings this year — defined as incidents in which four or more people, not including the shooter, are injured or killed — according to a Washington Post tracker.

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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754

    If only there was one common denominator in all of these mass shootings.... 
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    But race and politics is relevant. When white GOP politicians are constantly posting photos/videos of themselves using assault weapons, showing family photos with their kids holding weapons, creating legislation that allows anyone who wants a gun to buy one, we have to take a look at all that shit.
    Agree- fuck those idiots.  I’m conservative but I don’t align with a ton of the stuff the gop does.
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  • The Juggler
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    nicknyr15 said:
    a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

    who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 
    We’ll Never get past this. Unfortunately, the race and politics of the shooter is alway most important to
    both sides. Was he white? Yay! Was he not white? Yay! It’s disgusting. Again, division over solutions. 
    While this is true to an extent, I think it's clear one said is waaaay more invested in the identity of the shooter than the real issue of gun control. Let's get serious now. Look at Marge Green's initial, false, tweet. Look at Fox "News'" coverage.

    In this very thread-on this very morning, we have someone who is doing their own research on the guy's identity instead of choosing to believe what has actually been reported just because it doesn't fit the maga narrative. Instead on focusing on the real issue, he's knee deep in message board's dissecting the shooter's tattoos. By the end of the week the shooter will likely be a Trans Antifia FBI plant who played a role in rigging Kari Lake's governorship bid to a large portion of the country.  So let's be careful with the bothsidsing here.  
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