America's Gun Violence #2

Gern Blansten

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Gern Blansten said:

But race and politics is relevant. When white GOP politicians are constantly posting photos/videos of themselves using assault weapons, showing family photos with their kids holding weapons, creating legislation that allows anyone who wants a gun to buy one, we have to take a look at all that shit.

Agree- fuck those idiots.  I’m conservative but I don’t align with a ton of the stuff the gop does.

That should be a glaring sign for you that the GOP is flailing to stay alive. I'm glad you see through that.

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

But race and politics is relevant. When white GOP politicians are constantly posting photos/videos of themselves using assault weapons, showing family photos with their kids holding weapons, creating legislation that allows anyone who wants a gun to buy one, we have to take a look at all that shit.

but culture is only one portion of the issue. pissing about which group is at fault is a distraction away from the real problem: the guns. 

I just hope to hell none of my American relatives are ever involved in one of these. 

HughFreakingDillon

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 

Why the hell did we spend years saying it was the white religious guy then?

I get it. I'm just in the anger phase of this pissing contest of "it wasn't MY team" after every fucking shooting. 

Totally agree. The media has fucked us to the point that it’s the first thing we all want to know.  Personally I am interested in the gang/cartel stuff because of where I live and it’s always on my mind.  Austin crime has been out of control for the last several years, my own daughter had a classmate OD on fentanyl a few months ago at her desk next to her, and just today I heard a good friend of hers that was missing for months was rescued from a human trafficking cartel bust and then promptly killed herself after being rescued.  So that’s where my desire stemmed from- if just like to know how much of what is going on around here on the daily is due to our border situation

it's the media's job to find out details of the whys and whens and wheres. it's not their job to sensationalize it (right wing media is worse for this than middle or left). the politicians are the ones pointing the fingers, and people on that team follow suit. 

The Juggler

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

But race and politics is relevant. When white GOP politicians are constantly posting photos/videos of themselves using assault weapons, showing family photos with their kids holding weapons, creating legislation that allows anyone who wants a gun to buy one, we have to take a look at all that shit.

but culture is only one portion of the issue. pissing about which group is at fault is a distraction away from the real problem: the guns. 

I just hope to hell none of my American relatives are ever involved in one of these. 

The only way to solve the gun issue is to vote those people out of office though. The spot light should be on them, especially when the majority of the country is against them on this issue. 

mfc2006

mickeyrat said:

https://twitter.com/EricG1247/status/1655724832439533568?t=M4UoGd8fi7TiJSnxXDUo0A&s=19

Wow....so fucking terrible. And AVOIDABLE.

Gern Blansten

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

But race and politics is relevant. When white GOP politicians are constantly posting photos/videos of themselves using assault weapons, showing family photos with their kids holding weapons, creating legislation that allows anyone who wants a gun to buy one, we have to take a look at all that shit.

but culture is only one portion of the issue. pissing about which group is at fault is a distraction away from the real problem: the guns. 

I just hope to hell none of my American relatives are ever involved in one of these. 

The only way to solve the gun issue is to vote those people out of office though. The spot light should be on them, especially when the majority of the country is against them on this issue. 

agreed....perfect example is Greg Abbott. Fucker is constantly saying that it's a mental health issue yet TX is like last in the nation for providing mental health services. This needs to be what gets that piece of shit voted out of office.

mfc2006

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

But race and politics is relevant. When white GOP politicians are constantly posting photos/videos of themselves using assault weapons, showing family photos with their kids holding weapons, creating legislation that allows anyone who wants a gun to buy one, we have to take a look at all that shit.

but culture is only one portion of the issue. pissing about which group is at fault is a distraction away from the real problem: the guns. 

I just hope to hell none of my American relatives are ever involved in one of these. 

The only way to solve the gun issue is to vote those people out of office though. The spot light should be on them, especially when the majority of the country is against them on this issue. 

agreed....perfect example is Greg Abbott. Fucker is constantly saying that it's a mental health issue yet TX is like last in the nation for providing mental health services. This needs to be what gets that piece of shit voted out of office.

Yes - and that is a perfect example.

RoleModelsinBlood31

The Juggler said:

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 

We’ll Never get past this. Unfortunately, the race and politics of the shooter is alway most important to
both sides. Was he white? Yay! Was he not white? Yay! It’s disgusting. Again, division over solutions. 

While this is true to an extent, I think it's clear one said is waaaay more invested in the identity of the shooter than the real issue of gun control. Let's get serious now. Look at Marge Green's initial, false, tweet. Look at Fox "News'" coverage.

In this very thread-on this very morning, we have someone who is doing their own research on the guy's identity instead of choosing to believe what has actually been reported just because it doesn't fit the maga narrative. Instead on focusing on the real issue, he's knee deep in message board's dissecting the shooter's tattoos. By the end of the week the shooter will likely be a Trans Antifia FBI plant who played a role in rigging Kari Lake's governorship bid to a large portion of the country.  So let's be careful with the bothsidsing here.  

By my own research I meant I was going to check out all the information out there.  I don’t trust anything the govt tells me or the media tells me.  What did you think I was going to drive three hours and start interviewing people at the mall?! We should all be doing our own research all the time, we’re being fed govt controlled propaganda all day every day

Merkin Baller

The research isn’t needed, we know what the problem is. 

It’s the fucking guns and the culture of fear being stoked to drive gun sales that are the problem. 

https://www.kplctv.com/2023/05/08/starks-man-accused-shooting-14-year-old-girl-playing-hide-seek-back-head/

RoleModelsinBlood31

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 

Why the hell did we spend years saying it was the white religious guy then?

I get it. I'm just in the anger phase of this pissing contest of "it wasn't MY team" after every fucking shooting. 

Totally agree. The media has fucked us to the point that it’s the first thing we all want to know.  Personally I am interested in the gang/cartel stuff because of where I live and it’s always on my mind.  Austin crime has been out of control for the last several years, my own daughter had a classmate OD on fentanyl a few months ago at her desk next to her, and just today I heard a good friend of hers that was missing for months was rescued from a human trafficking cartel bust and then promptly killed herself after being rescued.  So that’s where my desire stemmed from- if just like to know how much of what is going on around here on the daily is due to our border situation

it's the media's job to find out details of the whys and whens and wheres. it's not their job to sensationalize it (right wing media is worse for this than middle or left). the politicians are the ones pointing the fingers, and people on that team follow suit. 

They lost all credibility to me over the last several years though.  From both White House’s banning certain outlets from
joining in press conferences to all the twitter nonsense to KJP’s nonsense to bidens cliff note questions to the whole Russia collusion.  They just don’t “find out” details, they just push narratives for clicks 

RoleModelsinBlood31

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

But race and politics is relevant. When white GOP politicians are constantly posting photos/videos of themselves using assault weapons, showing family photos with their kids holding weapons, creating legislation that allows anyone who wants a gun to buy one, we have to take a look at all that shit.

but culture is only one portion of the issue. pissing about which group is at fault is a distraction away from the real problem: the guns. 

I just hope to hell none of my American relatives are ever involved in one of these. 

The only way to solve the gun issue is to vote those people out of office though. The spot light should be on them, especially when the majority of the country is against them on this issue. 

agreed....perfect example is Greg Abbott. Fucker is constantly saying that it's a mental health issue yet TX is like last in the nation for providing mental health services. This needs to be what gets that piece of shit voted out of office.

I agree.  I think he’s correct that there’s a serious mental health problem but there’s nothing being done about it.  I mean that guy in nyc got arrested and released like 40 times and recently punched an elderly lady and broke her nose but he’s not in a treatment center? And this guy in Allen was discharged for mental health issues from the army back in 2008 but never got any treatment?  He can’t perform the duties they needed so they spit him out on the streets for the public to deal
with.  Pretty lame 

Merkin Baller

Canada & Sweden have comparable #s for self reported mental health issues as the US, but only a fraction of the firearm deaths. 

Weird, I know. 

HughFreakingDillon

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 

Why the hell did we spend years saying it was the white religious guy then?

I get it. I'm just in the anger phase of this pissing contest of "it wasn't MY team" after every fucking shooting. 

Totally agree. The media has fucked us to the point that it’s the first thing we all want to know.  Personally I am interested in the gang/cartel stuff because of where I live and it’s always on my mind.  Austin crime has been out of control for the last several years, my own daughter had a classmate OD on fentanyl a few months ago at her desk next to her, and just today I heard a good friend of hers that was missing for months was rescued from a human trafficking cartel bust and then promptly killed herself after being rescued.  So that’s where my desire stemmed from- if just like to know how much of what is going on around here on the daily is due to our border situation

it's the media's job to find out details of the whys and whens and wheres. it's not their job to sensationalize it (right wing media is worse for this than middle or left). the politicians are the ones pointing the fingers, and people on that team follow suit. 

They lost all credibility to me over the last several years though.  From both White House’s banning certain outlets from
joining in press conferences to all the twitter nonsense to KJP’s nonsense to bidens cliff note questions to the whole Russia collusion.  They just don’t “find out” details, they just push narratives for clicks 

of course they do, but I think it isn't difficult to figure out if what you're watching is BS or not. and what research are you doing? you're doing it all online, obviously. what "truth pockets" do you know of on the internet that aren't bias or have an agenda one way or the other?

RoleModelsinBlood31

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 

Why the hell did we spend years saying it was the white religious guy then?

I get it. I'm just in the anger phase of this pissing contest of "it wasn't MY team" after every fucking shooting. 

Totally agree. The media has fucked us to the point that it’s the first thing we all want to know.  Personally I am interested in the gang/cartel stuff because of where I live and it’s always on my mind.  Austin crime has been out of control for the last several years, my own daughter had a classmate OD on fentanyl a few months ago at her desk next to her, and just today I heard a good friend of hers that was missing for months was rescued from a human trafficking cartel bust and then promptly killed herself after being rescued.  So that’s where my desire stemmed from- if just like to know how much of what is going on around here on the daily is due to our border situation

it's the media's job to find out details of the whys and whens and wheres. it's not their job to sensationalize it (right wing media is worse for this than middle or left). the politicians are the ones pointing the fingers, and people on that team follow suit. 

They lost all credibility to me over the last several years though.  From both White House’s banning certain outlets from
joining in press conferences to all the twitter nonsense to KJP’s nonsense to bidens cliff note questions to the whole Russia collusion.  They just don’t “find out” details, they just push narratives for clicks 

of course they do, but I think it isn't difficult to figure out if what you're watching is BS or not. and what research are you doing? you're doing it all online, obviously. what "truth pockets" do you know of on the internet that aren't bias or have an agenda one way or the other?

Not sure if you’re serious or not. People still think that cops were killed on Jan 6. They still think that trump peed on someone or vice versa or whatever.  They still think there was some kind of Russia collusion.  There are no truth pockets, that’s why it’s important to do your research and read as many different sources on an issue as you can.

RoleModelsinBlood31

Alright that’s it for me for a while, lol. See y’all in a few.  I wanna move back to the Caribbean.

HughFreakingDillon

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 

Why the hell did we spend years saying it was the white religious guy then?

I get it. I'm just in the anger phase of this pissing contest of "it wasn't MY team" after every fucking shooting. 

Totally agree. The media has fucked us to the point that it’s the first thing we all want to know.  Personally I am interested in the gang/cartel stuff because of where I live and it’s always on my mind.  Austin crime has been out of control for the last several years, my own daughter had a classmate OD on fentanyl a few months ago at her desk next to her, and just today I heard a good friend of hers that was missing for months was rescued from a human trafficking cartel bust and then promptly killed herself after being rescued.  So that’s where my desire stemmed from- if just like to know how much of what is going on around here on the daily is due to our border situation

it's the media's job to find out details of the whys and whens and wheres. it's not their job to sensationalize it (right wing media is worse for this than middle or left). the politicians are the ones pointing the fingers, and people on that team follow suit. 

They lost all credibility to me over the last several years though.  From both White House’s banning certain outlets from
joining in press conferences to all the twitter nonsense to KJP’s nonsense to bidens cliff note questions to the whole Russia collusion.  They just don’t “find out” details, they just push narratives for clicks 

of course they do, but I think it isn't difficult to figure out if what you're watching is BS or not. and what research are you doing? you're doing it all online, obviously. what "truth pockets" do you know of on the internet that aren't bias or have an agenda one way or the other?

Not sure if you’re serious or not. People still think that cops were killed on Jan 6. They still think that trump peed on someone or vice versa or whatever.  They still think there was some kind of Russia collusion.  There are no truth pockets, that’s why it’s important to do your research and read as many different sources on an issue as you can.

that's my question. what sources?

Halifax2TheMax

Somebody has fallen down the rabbit hole and is no longer tethered to reality. Good luck ‘Murica, you’re going to need it.

The Juggler

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

The Juggler said:

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 

We’ll Never get past this. Unfortunately, the race and politics of the shooter is alway most important to
both sides. Was he white? Yay! Was he not white? Yay! It’s disgusting. Again, division over solutions. 

While this is true to an extent, I think it's clear one said is waaaay more invested in the identity of the shooter than the real issue of gun control. Let's get serious now. Look at Marge Green's initial, false, tweet. Look at Fox "News'" coverage.

In this very thread-on this very morning, we have someone who is doing their own research on the guy's identity instead of choosing to believe what has actually been reported just because it doesn't fit the maga narrative. Instead on focusing on the real issue, he's knee deep in message board's dissecting the shooter's tattoos. By the end of the week the shooter will likely be a Trans Antifia FBI plant who played a role in rigging Kari Lake's governorship bid to a large portion of the country.  So let's be careful with the bothsidsing here.  

By my own research I meant I was going to check out all the information out there.  I don’t trust anything the govt tells me or the media tells me.  What did you think I was going to drive three hours and start interviewing people at the mall?! We should all be doing our own research all the time, we’re being fed govt controlled propaganda all day every day

No I figured you were going to peruse the dark corners of the internet where conspiracy theories are born and bred. 

Being skeptical of the gov and media is normal to an extent. But you come here and post some really weird stuff and then cite some really shady websites that I'm afraid to click on. 

There are plenty of reputable news organizations you should be able trust. I think the problem a lot of people have is they cannot accept the basic set of facts that most rational people can simply because those facts dispute a lot of their beliefs. And so they then go off searching weird websites and message boards in hopes of disputing those facts in the name of "research" and that's...not living in reality. 

gimmesometruth27

i wonder if all of this stuff in texas would be happening if they had elected beto when they had the chance. he should have beaten cruz and abbot.

mace1229

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

a 6 year old's entire family was slaughtered in front of him trying to exchange some clothes he got for his birthday. 

who gives a fuck who he is affiliated with so we can blame the appropriate group. it's the fucking guns. 

Why the hell did we spend years saying it was the white religious guy then?

I get it. I'm just in the anger phase of this pissing contest of "it wasn't MY team" after every fucking shooting. 

Totally agree. The media has fucked us to the point that it’s the first thing we all want to know.  Personally I am interested in the gang/cartel stuff because of where I live and it’s always on my mind.  Austin crime has been out of control for the last several years, my own daughter had a classmate OD on fentanyl a few months ago at her desk next to her, and just today I heard a good friend of hers that was missing for months was rescued from a human trafficking cartel bust and then promptly killed herself after being rescued.  So that’s where my desire stemmed from- if just like to know how much of what is going on around here on the daily is due to our border situation

it's the media's job to find out details of the whys and whens and wheres. it's not their job to sensationalize it (right wing media is worse for this than middle or left). the politicians are the ones pointing the fingers, and people on that team follow suit. 

They lost all credibility to me over the last several years though.  From both White House’s banning certain outlets from
joining in press conferences to all the twitter nonsense to KJP’s nonsense to bidens cliff note questions to the whole Russia collusion.  They just don’t “find out” details, they just push narratives for clicks 

of course they do, but I think it isn't difficult to figure out if what you're watching is BS or not. and what research are you doing? you're doing it all online, obviously. what "truth pockets" do you know of on the internet that aren't bias or have an agenda one way or the other?

Not sure if you’re serious or not. People still think that cops were killed on Jan 6. They still think that trump peed on someone or vice versa or whatever.  They still think there was some kind of Russia collusion.  There are no truth pockets, that’s why it’s important to do your research and read as many different sources on an issue as you can.

that's my question. what sources?

The AMT, Hugh.