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It’s a media driven agenda.Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Come on now, Micky... God's on the side of the people w/ guns. That's like, settled law or something.mickeyrat said:
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your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
I get the point that you're making, I genuinely do, but does it matter?HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
Which scenario is worse: that these kinds of things happen all the time in America and we don't normally talk about them, or that this is a new way people are getting killed by firearms in the US?
IMO both scenarios are equally grim, and regardless, the #s I posted above from the Pew Research center are the real story here, with this recent spate of property murders being a subtext to that.0 -
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.0 -
I don’t blame you. At all.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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But not Chicago? Cmon. Put your political bias to the side for one second man. Those videos from a few weeks ago…. Yea. No thanks. Doesn’t seem very welcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:
Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.Post edited by nicknyr15 on0 -
I’m not sure Illinois is as dangerous as Tejas or that Chicago is as dangerous as any city in Tejas with similar populations on a per 100,000 population basis but I do know that Tejas’ gun laws are way far less restrictive than Illinois’ but for indianer. Further, IMHO opinion, there are certain areas of Chicago you can avoid but in Tejas it’s the whole state you need to avoid.nicknyr15 said:
But not Chicago? Cmon. Put your political bias to the side for one second man. Those videos from a few weeks ago…. Yea. No thanks. Doesn’t seem very welcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:
Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
What videos from a few weeks ago did I miss?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I hear you but I still think your opinion is a politically biased one. Just google Chicago chaos. I think it was about 2-3 weeks ago. And restrictive gun laws are doing absolutely nothing when it comes toHalifax2TheMax said:
I’m not sure Illinois is as dangerous as Tejas or that Chicago is as dangerous as any city in Tejas with similar populations on a per 100,000 population basis but I do know that Tejas’ gun laws are way far less restrictive than Illinois’ but for indianer. Further, IMHO opinion, there are certain areas of Chicago you can avoid but in Tejas it’s the whole state you need to avoid.nicknyr15 said:
But not Chicago? Cmon. Put your political bias to the side for one second man. Those videos from a few weeks ago…. Yea. No thanks. Doesn’t seem very welcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:
Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
What videos from a few weeks ago did I miss?
gun violence in these cities.Post edited by nicknyr15 on0 -
no, it doesn't.Merkin Baller said:
I get the point that you're making, I genuinely do, but does it matter?HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
Which scenario is worse: that these kinds of things happen all the time in America and we don't normally talk about them, or that this is a new way people are getting killed by firearms in the US?
IMO both scenarios are equally grim, and regardless, the #s I posted above from the Pew Research center are the real story here, with this recent spate of property murders being a subtext to that.
and the original point wasn't actually a point, it was a question, then it turned into something else.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m not sure Illinois is as dangerous as Tejas or that Chicago is as dangerous as any city in Tejas with similar populations on a per 100,000 population basis but I do know that Tejas’ gun laws are way far less restrictive than Illinois’ but for indianer. Further, IMHO opinion, there are certain areas of Chicago you can avoid but in Tejas it’s the whole state you need to avoid.nicknyr15 said:
But not Chicago? Cmon. Put your political bias to the side for one second man. Those videos from a few weeks ago…. Yea. No thanks. Doesn’t seem very welcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:
Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
What videos from a few weeks ago did I miss?Not sure if the CDC is considered to be credible or not, but here's their latest firearm mortality rate per 100k. There are 26 states with a higher rate than Texas (Illinois just so happens to be next in line). Seems bias may be coming into play a bit here.0 -
Where would you say your chances of being shot are greater, given that Tejas has a population of approximately 29.3M, while Ilinois has 12.7M and the discrepancy per 100K is a mere .3 (12.4 versus 12.1, Tejas/Illinois)?FiveBelow said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m not sure Illinois is as dangerous as Tejas or that Chicago is as dangerous as any city in Tejas with similar populations on a per 100,000 population basis but I do know that Tejas’ gun laws are way far less restrictive than Illinois’ but for indianer. Further, IMHO opinion, there are certain areas of Chicago you can avoid but in Tejas it’s the whole state you need to avoid.nicknyr15 said:
But not Chicago? Cmon. Put your political bias to the side for one second man. Those videos from a few weeks ago…. Yea. No thanks. Doesn’t seem very welcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:
Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
What videos from a few weeks ago did I miss?Not sure if the CDC is considered to be credible or not, but here's their latest firearm mortality rate per 100k. There are 26 states with a higher rate than Texas (Illinois just so happens to be next in line). Seems bias may be coming into play a bit here.
Further, while Chicago has a higher rate than Houston, Houston ranks immediately after, and for Tejas cities, Dallas, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Austin and El Paso are listed in the Big Cities Health Coalition as it relates to per 100K firearm deaths. Seems to me, avoid certain areas of Chicago where gun crime is prevalent, you should be okay. Tejas, not so much. Link is data from 2020.
Gun Deaths in Big Cities | Urban Health Collaborative | Drexel University
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Can I google Tejas chaos too?nicknyr15 said:
I hear you but I still think your opinion is a politically biased one. Just google Chicago chaos. I think it was about 2-3 weeks ago. And restrictive gun laws are doing absolutely nothing when it comes toHalifax2TheMax said:
I’m not sure Illinois is as dangerous as Tejas or that Chicago is as dangerous as any city in Tejas with similar populations on a per 100,000 population basis but I do know that Tejas’ gun laws are way far less restrictive than Illinois’ but for indianer. Further, IMHO opinion, there are certain areas of Chicago you can avoid but in Tejas it’s the whole state you need to avoid.nicknyr15 said:
But not Chicago? Cmon. Put your political bias to the side for one second man. Those videos from a few weeks ago…. Yea. No thanks. Doesn’t seem very welcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:
Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
What videos from a few weeks ago did I miss?
gun violence in these cities.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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"chicago chaos" is kind of a loaded search. wouldn't you agree?nicknyr15 said:
I hear you but I still think your opinion is a politically biased one. Just google Chicago chaos. I think it was about 2-3 weeks ago. And restrictive gun laws are doing absolutely nothing when it comes toHalifax2TheMax said:
I’m not sure Illinois is as dangerous as Tejas or that Chicago is as dangerous as any city in Tejas with similar populations on a per 100,000 population basis but I do know that Tejas’ gun laws are way far less restrictive than Illinois’ but for indianer. Further, IMHO opinion, there are certain areas of Chicago you can avoid but in Tejas it’s the whole state you need to avoid.nicknyr15 said:
But not Chicago? Cmon. Put your political bias to the side for one second man. Those videos from a few weeks ago…. Yea. No thanks. Doesn’t seem very welcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:
Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
What videos from a few weeks ago did I miss?
gun violence in these cities."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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To answer your question, the mortality rate seems to indicate the chances are slightly higher in Illinois. If you don’t want to go the age adjusted rate route, let’s do this. Texas had 4613 firearm deaths in 2021 (per the CDC link), while Illinois had 1995 deaths. The 2021 population estimate for Texas was 29,527,941 with Illinois coming in at 12,671,469.Halifax2TheMax said:
Where would you say your chances of being shot are greater, given that Tejas has a population of approximately 29.3M, while Ilinois has 12.7M and the discrepancy per 100K is a mere .3 (12.4 versus 12.1, Tejas/Illinois)?FiveBelow said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m not sure Illinois is as dangerous as Tejas or that Chicago is as dangerous as any city in Tejas with similar populations on a per 100,000 population basis but I do know that Tejas’ gun laws are way far less restrictive than Illinois’ but for indianer. Further, IMHO opinion, there are certain areas of Chicago you can avoid but in Tejas it’s the whole state you need to avoid.nicknyr15 said:
But not Chicago? Cmon. Put your political bias to the side for one second man. Those videos from a few weeks ago…. Yea. No thanks. Doesn’t seem very welcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:
Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
What videos from a few weeks ago did I miss?Not sure if the CDC is considered to be credible or not, but here's their latest firearm mortality rate per 100k. There are 26 states with a higher rate than Texas (Illinois just so happens to be next in line). Seems bias may be coming into play a bit here.
Further, while Chicago has a higher rate than Houston, Houston ranks immediately after, and for Tejas cities, Dallas, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Austin and El Paso are listed in the Big Cities Health Coalition as it relates to per 100K firearm deaths. Seems to me, avoid certain areas of Chicago where gun crime is prevalent, you should be okay. Tejas, not so much. Link is data from 2020.
Gun Deaths in Big Cities | Urban Health Collaborative | Drexel University
4613/29,527,941 = .00015622
1995/12,671,469 = .00015744
If you lived in Illinois during 2021 your chances of being one of the firearm victims was .015744%, still slightly higher than the .015622% if you lived in Texas during 2021. If you understand this, there is no need to compare cities within these states. If you’re only interested in comparing cities, that’s a different discussion. I do find it funny (not really) that your link would rank the safest PJ shows this tour as follows:
Austin
MSP
Ft Worth
Chicago
Indy
https://usafacts.org/data/topics/people-society/population-and-demographics/our-changing-population/state/texas/?endDate=2021-01-01&startDate=2010-01-01
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You won’t convince me that I’d be safer in Tejas than Illinois or any Tejas city over Chicago. More people + more guns = more people with guns = greater chance of getting shot.FiveBelow said:
To answer your question, the mortality rate seems to indicate the chances are slightly higher in Illinois. If you don’t want to go the age adjusted rate route, let’s do this. Texas had 4613 firearm deaths in 2021 (per the CDC link), while Illinois had 1995 deaths. The 2021 population estimate for Texas was 29,527,941 with Illinois coming in at 12,671,469.Halifax2TheMax said:
Where would you say your chances of being shot are greater, given that Tejas has a population of approximately 29.3M, while Ilinois has 12.7M and the discrepancy per 100K is a mere .3 (12.4 versus 12.1, Tejas/Illinois)?FiveBelow said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m not sure Illinois is as dangerous as Tejas or that Chicago is as dangerous as any city in Tejas with similar populations on a per 100,000 population basis but I do know that Tejas’ gun laws are way far less restrictive than Illinois’ but for indianer. Further, IMHO opinion, there are certain areas of Chicago you can avoid but in Tejas it’s the whole state you need to avoid.nicknyr15 said:
But not Chicago? Cmon. Put your political bias to the side for one second man. Those videos from a few weeks ago…. Yea. No thanks. Doesn’t seem very welcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:
Tejas. Avoid Tejas.mace1229 said:
Random acts of violence are still very rare. You can reduce the risk even more by avoiding certain areas at certain times. While nothing is 100%, I certainly don't fear going out on my day to day life.HughFreakingDillon said:
your country is insane, but like I said, there's no way that this all started up at the same time around the country.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s a media driven agenda.
this may sound alarmist, but I'm actually reconsidering coming there to see PJ in the summer.
What videos from a few weeks ago did I miss?Not sure if the CDC is considered to be credible or not, but here's their latest firearm mortality rate per 100k. There are 26 states with a higher rate than Texas (Illinois just so happens to be next in line). Seems bias may be coming into play a bit here.
Further, while Chicago has a higher rate than Houston, Houston ranks immediately after, and for Tejas cities, Dallas, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Austin and El Paso are listed in the Big Cities Health Coalition as it relates to per 100K firearm deaths. Seems to me, avoid certain areas of Chicago where gun crime is prevalent, you should be okay. Tejas, not so much. Link is data from 2020.
Gun Deaths in Big Cities | Urban Health Collaborative | Drexel University
4613/29,527,941 = .00015622
1995/12,671,469 = .00015744
If you lived in Illinois during 2021 your chances of being one of the firearm victims was .015744%, still slightly higher than the .015622% if you lived in Texas during 2021. If you understand this, there is no need to compare cities within these states. If you’re only interested in comparing cities, that’s a different discussion. I do find it funny (not really) that your link would rank the safest PJ shows this tour as follows:
Austin
MSP
Ft Worth
Chicago
Indy
https://usafacts.org/data/topics/people-society/population-and-demographics/our-changing-population/state/texas/?endDate=2021-01-01&startDate=2010-01-01
Gun licences issued in Illinois and Tejas and percentage of adults with at least one gun at home.Licenses in 2021: 144,749
In Illinois, 27.8% of adults say they at least one firearm at home. Roughly 2.5M gun owners.
Licenses in 2021: 1,006,555
In Texas, 45.7% of adults say they live in homes with guns. Roughly 6.8M gun owners.
Since the beginning of 2023, more mass shootings, roughly 2Xs more, occurred in Tejas over Illinois, according to the gun violence archive. Looking at only deaths from firearms is not the sole predicator of risk. I’ll take my chances in Chicago over Tejas. Enjoy the shows in Tejas but don’t play baseball.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/us/texas-college-baseball-player-shot-stray-bullet/index.html
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