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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,331

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,331

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754
    More & more people standing their ground these days, just as the founding fathers intended. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754
    mickeyrat said:

    “ The youngest victim in the shooting was 8 years old and two female victims were discovered in the bedroom lying on top of two surviving children, authorities told ABC News.

    Police said they believe the massacre occurred after neighbors asked the suspect to stop shooting his gun in the front yard because there was a baby trying to sleep.”

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,015
    Where’s unsung now?
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,398
    Wow, this is beyond fucked up and out of control.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,331
    welp if he doesnt kill himself or die in a shootout,  he will surely catch a needle.....
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,396
    Merkin Baller said:
    mickeyrat said:

    “ The youngest victim in the shooting was 8 years old and two female victims were discovered in the bedroom lying on top of two surviving children, authorities told ABC News.

    Police said they believe the massacre occurred after neighbors asked the suspect to stop shooting his gun in the front yard because there was a baby trying to sleep.”

    But let's relax all gun control laws and make it easier for everyone and anyone to get and possess a gun and kill their neighbors.

    Seriously I want some gun owners on here who are against gun control to defend this.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754
    Bentleyspop said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mickeyrat said:

    “ The youngest victim in the shooting was 8 years old and two female victims were discovered in the bedroom lying on top of two surviving children, authorities told ABC News.

    Police said they believe the massacre occurred after neighbors asked the suspect to stop shooting his gun in the front yard because there was a baby trying to sleep.”

    But let's relax all gun control laws and make it easier for everyone and anyone to get and possess a gun and kill their neighbors.

    Seriously I want some gun owners on here who are against gun control to defend this.
    The majority of Americans are in favor of tougher laws according to a poll by none other than Fox News: 

    Reduce Gun Violence Poll

    “The Reduce Gun Violence Poll (Fox News)

    Roughly, three-quarters favor requiring a 30-day wait period for all gun purchases (77%) and increasing the number of armed guards at schools/public venues (73%).

    Seven in 10 favor banning high-capacity ammunition clips (70%), while slightly less (63%) support banning assault weapons”

    https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-voters-voice-support-gun-reform


    The gun lobby owns our government & these massacres are good for the bottom line. Nothing’s ever going to change. 

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,396
    mickeyrat said:
    welp if he doesnt kill himself or die in a shootout,  he will surely catch a needle.....
    Not in Texas.
    He's a hero in Texas
    Hell get a cash reward and a daily show on faux
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,015
    Whole lot of “responsibility” going on. From WaPo regarding the latest mass shooting in Tejas.

    “When I heard those gunshots, I didn’t think anything of it because in this neighborhood everyone has guns. Every weekend you hear gunshots,” she said in an interview in Spanish. “People shoot in their backyards, after they drink alcohol, men take out guns at house parties and shoot the ground.”
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  • Merkin Baller
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    Texas Governor Greg Abbott posted on his twitter feed about an hour & a half ago: https://twitter.com/gregabbott_tx/status/1652349265115480064?s=46&t=8gcgOb63bxt_SN15MkuwYg




  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,396
    Merkin Baller said:
    Texas Governor Greg Abbott posted on his twitter feed about an hour & a half ago: https://twitter.com/gregabbott_tx/status/1652349265115480064?s=46&t=8gcgOb63bxt_SN15MkuwYg




    Typical QtRUmplican "politician".
    Does not care a bit about his constituents. 
    Only cares about the grift. 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,870
    Bentleyspop said:
    mickeyrat said:
    welp if he doesnt kill himself or die in a shootout,  he will surely catch a needle.....
    Not in Texas.
    He's a hero in Texas
    Hell get a cash reward and a daily show on faux
    I mean, he was just standing his ground against the imminent threat of a sleeping baby. Who amongst us wouldn't murder 5 people when faced with that danger?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,015
    Poncier said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    mickeyrat said:
    welp if he doesnt kill himself or die in a shootout,  he will surely catch a needle.....
    Not in Texas.
    He's a hero in Texas
    Hell get a cash reward and a daily show on faux
    I mean, he was just standing his ground against the imminent threat of a sleeping baby. Who amongst us wouldn't murder 5 people when faced with that danger?
    A sleeping baby denying ME MY freedumbs? FU and your sleeping baby!

    What a country.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,658
    Apparently we in the U.S. have become a nation of people who have to be careful about who we approach, as in if you aren't 100% sure you know someone, don't go near them.  Yes, I exaggerate.  But by how much?  We are a sick and twisted nation of people.

    ‘Fearful and trigger happy’: flooded with guns and paranoia, the US reels from shootings

    Permissive self-defense and gun laws spotlighted by recent shootings in which victims approached gunmen by mistake

    Sun 30 Apr 2023 01.00 EDT



    Waldes Thomas and Diamond Darville were driving for the grocery delivery service Instacart near Miami in mid-April when they drove the order up to the wrong address.

    Thomas, 19, and Darville, 18, reportedly told authorities they were backing away from the home when the owner emerged with his son, grabbed on to the driver’s window and fired a gun three times at their car. Antonio Caccavale, who didn’t hit anyone, later reportedly claimed to police who investigated the encounter that he shot because he feared for his and his son’s lives as Thomas and Darville’s car ran over his foot and struck a boulder.

    Eventually, police concluded everyone – including Caccavale – acted “justifiably based on the circumstances they perceived”, leading to no arrests.

    It remains to be seen whether the police’s interpretation of the case is the final word on the matter. A local prosecutor told ABC News in a statement that he would evaluate whether Caccavale should be charged, adding that “the safety of the entire Instacart community is incredibly important” to his office.

    Nonetheless, that case, along with a spate of recent shootings across the country which victimized Americans who approached property owners by mistake or for an otherwise innocent reason, did not only vividly illustrate how the US is flooded with guns. It all also showed how people who are made paranoid by the nation’s bitter political climate believe they can use guns with impunity thanks to firearms laws and self-defense statutes that in many states are remarkably permissive, according to experts who spoke with the Guardian this week.

    “A lot of people who shouldn’t have guns, who don’t need them, who don’t know how to use them safely … are fearful and trigger happy,” said the president of Global Action on Gun Violence, Jonathan Lowy. “And it’s inevitable that that will lead to tragedies like we’re seeing.”




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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,550
    Bentleyspop said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Texas Governor Greg Abbott posted on his twitter feed about an hour & a half ago: https://twitter.com/gregabbott_tx/status/1652349265115480064?s=46&t=8gcgOb63bxt_SN15MkuwYg




    Typical QtRUmplican "politician".
    Does not care a bit about his constituents. 
    Only cares about the grift. 
    Well you know if these victims were White evangelical Christian voters he would of been at the house crying tears of a clown! But being these victims were all from Honduras they are not worth one tear from him them being immigrants and such! 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,331

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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I have a question: there's no way there is all of a sudden this rash of "property murders" all over the country in the matter of a week or so. This has to have been happening already and the media is just picking up on it now?
    That is my guess. One story gets a lot of attention, so they focus on other like stories. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I have a question: there's no way there is all of a sudden this rash of "property murders" all over the country in the matter of a week or so. This has to have been happening already and the media is just picking up on it now?
    That is my guess. One story gets a lot of attention, so they focus on other like stories.
    While I don't have data about "property murders" in particular, the most recent data available (from 2021), according to Pew Research shows an alarming increase in US gun murders (and suicides) over the last several years. Regardless of what the media focuses on, the rate of death by firearm (through 2021 at least), confirms things are only getting worse in this country. 

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

    "The record 48,830 total gun deaths in 2021 reflect a 23% increase since 2019, before the onset of the coronavirus pandemic.

    Gun murders, in particular, have climbed sharply during the pandemic, increasing 45% between 2019 and 2021, while the number of gun suicides rose 10% during that span.

    The overall increase in U.S. gun deaths since the beginning of the pandemic includes an especially stark rise in such fatalities among children and teens under the age of 18. Gun deaths among children and teens rose 50% in just two years, from 1,732 in 2019 to 2,590 in 2021."


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