also on twitter someone put that image of hawley running to the theme music of "chariots of fire". i laughed a lot, haha.
he is my senator and he is the biggest jabroni in the state.
He's a fucking idiot.
I work just outside of KC (KS side), but live in KCMO along with about 1/2 of the other employees here. Most are die hard Hawley fans, so I enjoyed putting the GIF of him running in one of our Teams meetings today. LOL.
now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary.
Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick.
BS stop with two sides are the same just stop it! There were no guns on 1/6 lol get a grip dude
jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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Jan. 6 panel deepens probe to Trump Cabinet, awaits Thomas
By HOPE YEN
1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House Jan. 6 committee said Sunday it will interview more former Cabinet secretaries and is prepared to subpoena conservative activist Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, who's married to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, as part of its investigation of the Capitol riot and Donald Trump's role.
Lawmakers said they are deepening their inquiry after a series of eight hearings in June and July culminating in a prime-time session Thursday, with plans to interview additional witnesses and reconvene in September to resume laying out their findings to the public.
“We anticipate talking to additional members of the president’s Cabinet,” said Rep. Liz Cheney, the committee's vice chair. “We anticipate talking to additional members of his campaign. Certainly, we’re very focused as well on the Secret Service.”
Cheney, R-Wyo., did not identify the Trump administration officials who might come forward, but the committee has previously made clear its interest in speaking with those believed to have considered invoking a constitutional process in the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office after the riot on Jan. 6, 2021, when hundreds of Trump’s supporters violently stormed the Capitol and interrupted the certification of Joe Biden’s election.
The committee has aired testimony from former Attorney General William Barr, who said he told Trump that widespread voter fraud claims were “bull——” and had “zero basis.” In last week’s hearing, the committee played testimony from then-Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia, who said he urged Trump to call a Cabinet meeting to discuss an orderly transition of power.
Other Cabinet members have indicated they may have important details to share.
Betsy DeVos, the education secretary at the time, previously told USA Today that she raised with Vice President Mike Pence the question of whether the Cabinet should consider invoking the 25th Amendment, which would have required the vice president and the majority of the Cabinet to agree that the president could no longer fulfill his duties.
DeVos, in her resignation letter on Jan. 7, 2021, blamed Trump for inciting the mob. “There is no mistaking the impact your rhetoric had on the situation, and it is the inflection point for me,” she wrote.
On the same day, Elaine Chao quit as transportation secretary. Chao, who is married to Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said the attack had "deeply troubled me in a way that I simply cannot set aside.”
Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state at the time who is considering a 2024 presidential run, and Steven Mnuchin, Trump's treasury secretary, also were reported to have discussed the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment, according to Jonathan Karl of ABC News in his book “Betrayal.”
“The floodgates have opened,” said Rep. Elaine Luria, D-Va., regarding the next phase of its investigation.
Committee members also hope to learn more about Ginni Thomas’ own effort to keep Trump in office and the potential conflicts of interest for Clarence Thomas as a result on Jan. 6 cases that have come before the Supreme Court. The committee sent a letter to Ginni Thomas last month seeking an interview and hopes she will comply, Cheney said.
Thomas communicated with people in Trump’s orbit ahead of the 2021 attack and also on the day of the insurrection.
“We certainly hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily,” Cheney said. “But the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she does not.”
Cheney also said that while the committee hasn’t decided whether to make a criminal referral regarding Trump to the Justice Department, “that’s absolutely something we’re looking at.”
Added Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill.: “I certainly think there’s evidence of crimes and I think it goes all the way up to Donald Trump.”
While a possible Trump prosecution is a matter for the Justice Department, the committee has used its hearings to try to make a case about his political viability as he mulls running in 2024. Some of the most damning testimony aired by the committee has come from Trump’s own top Republican advisers, military leaders and confidants, who admitted to a loss of confidence in his judgment and dedication to the rule of law in the days leading up to and after the Jan. 6 attack.
The committee also wants to get to the bottom of missing Secret Service texts from Jan. 5-6, 2021, that could have shed further light on Trump’s actions during the insurrection, particularly after earlier testimony about his confrontation with security as he tried to join supporters at the Capitol.
Lawmakers also are interested in hearing from Steve Bannon, a Trump ally who was found guilty last week on criminal contempt of Congress charges for refusing to comply with the House committee’s subpoena.
Cheney spoke on CNN's “State of the Union” and “Fox News Sunday,” Kinzinger appeared on ABC's “This Week,” and Luria was on NBC's “Meet the Press."
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AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro and Associated Press writer Mary Clare Jalonick contributed to this report.
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Oh, plenty of people care, question is, do enough people of both parties care and in particular, do enough people of both political parties in positions of power and influence care? That remains to be seen.
Oh, plenty of people care, question is, do enough people of both parties care and in particular, do enough people of both political parties in positions of power and influence care? That remains to be seen.
Oh, plenty of people care, question is, do enough people of both parties care and in particular, do enough people of both political parties in positions of power and influence care? That remains to be seen.
Republican voters don’t care and they’ll all be voting for him again. There’s no political fallout for republicans, so now their corruption and vileness is conducted out in the open.
We don't need it to be completely damaging....just a little damaging. It's pretty clear that he's lost at least 5-10% of the GOP vote that he received in 2020
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We don't need it to be completely damaging....just a little damaging. It's pretty clear that he's lost at least 5-10% of the GOP vote that he received in 2020
For now. If POOTWH is the repub party nominee, you can bet 70+ million Americans, and a few tens of thousands Putin on the ritz voting machines, will pull the lever for him. 2 years is an eternity in a populace with an attention span of 15 minutes.
We don't need it to be completely damaging....just a little damaging. It's pretty clear that he's lost at least 5-10% of the GOP vote that he received in 2020
For now. If POOTWH is the repub party nominee, you can bet 70+ million Americans, and a few tens of thousands Putin on the ritz voting machines, will pull the lever for him. 2 years is an eternity in a populace with an attention span of 15 minutes.
I thought we had free and fair elections with little to no voting discrepencies? How could tens of thousands of Putin on the ritz vote?
We don't need it to be completely damaging....just a little damaging. It's pretty clear that he's lost at least 5-10% of the GOP vote that he received in 2020
For now. If POOTWH is the repub party nominee, you can bet 70+ million Americans, and a few tens of thousands Putin on the ritz voting machines, will pull the lever for him. 2 years is an eternity in a populace with an attention span of 15 minutes.
I thought we had free and fair elections with little to no voting discrepencies? How could tens of thousands of Putin on the ritz vote?
Depends on which side of the aisle you’re on and who your candidate is. C’mon, everyone knows that!
We don't need it to be completely damaging....just a little damaging. It's pretty clear that he's lost at least 5-10% of the GOP vote that he received in 2020
For now. If POOTWH is the repub party nominee, you can bet 70+ million Americans, and a few tens of thousands Putin on the ritz voting machines, will pull the lever for him. 2 years is an eternity in a populace with an attention span of 15 minutes.
I thought we had free and fair elections with little to no voting discrepencies? How could tens of thousands of Putin on the ritz vote?
Depends on which side of the aisle you’re on and who your candidate is. C’mon, everyone knows that!
We don't need it to be completely damaging....just a little damaging. It's pretty clear that he's lost at least 5-10% of the GOP vote that he received in 2020
For now. If POOTWH is the repub party nominee, you can bet 70+ million Americans, and a few tens of thousands Putin on the ritz voting machines, will pull the lever for him. 2 years is an eternity in a populace with an attention span of 15 minutes.
I thought we had free and fair elections with little to no voting discrepencies? How could tens of thousands of Putin on the ritz vote?
Depends on which side of the aisle you’re on and who your candidate is. C’mon, everyone knows that!
I don't know anything anymore
Up is down and down is up and hot is cold and cold is hot.
Mick Mulvainy, like clouds in your coffee, came on down today. Voluntarily, or so he claimed. Seems the queries are going higher up the food chain. I wonder how this has Mark field of weeds Meadows, Gym Jordan and Ruddy Ghouliani feeling? Who’s next to come clean, go to the mattresses or sleep with the fishes? Enquiring dot connectors and fruit from the poisonous tree pickers want to know.
Mick Mulvainy, like clouds in your coffee, came on down today. Voluntarily, or so he claimed. Seems the queries are going higher up the food chain. I wonder how this has Mark field of weeds Meadows, Gym Jordan and Ruddy Ghouliani feeling? Who’s next to come clean, go to the mattresses or sleep with the fishes? Enquiring dot connectors and fruit from the poisonous tree pickers want to know.
Mick is pissed....
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Now that anonymous sources are leaking to The Washington Post that the Department of Justice is officially targeting former President Donald Trump with criminal charges, this is a good time to ask: Just how crazy are the occupants of Washington, D.C.? Do they really think they will indict, prosecute, convict, and imprison the Republican frontrunner for president in 2024 without creating a massive amount of public backlash?
For half the country, trying to take down Trump for giving a speech over a mile away from the Capitol on Jan. 6 while hardly anybody has been held accountable for the atrocious Russia collusion hoax that nearly destroyed his presidency will be nothing less than total confirmation of a two-tiered and irreparably corrupt justice system and could permanently tear the nation in two.
This may come as a shocker to Washington, but Congress’s J6 obsession is not high on Americans’ list of critical issues. Polls show the American people’s top concerns are skyrocketing inflation and economic uncertainty, not what happened on Jan. 6. To say that the American government and the American people are not speaking the same language right now is an understatement.
A Soviet-Like Spectacle
Had Attorney General Merrick Garland felt that Trump had potentially committed a crime before leaving office, he should have pursued an investigation free from the overtly political atmosphere created by Congress’s J6 committee hearings. Whatever Nancy Pelosi’s Jan. 6 Committee is, it has not been a courtroom pursuing justice. Though witnesses are brought before the committee to “confess,” as Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., so Stalin-esquely put it, there is no one cross-examining their testimony for truth or accuracy.
While one side presents a damning case against anyone who even thought about attending rallies near the Capitol that day, there is no defense counsel to challenge evidence, offer competing explanations, or provide mitigating circumstances on the accused’s behalf. No one is present to contest the committee’s allegations at all. Third-party hearsay evidence, normally inadmissible in courts of law, is used to advance the committee’s narratives. For that matter, long-winded and rhetorical political speeches from admittedly biased committee members advance theories of the case not grounded in evidence at all. Exculpatory evidence that might call into question the committee’s grave charges is regularly excluded.
Still, the whole proceeding is conducted with such an air of legal seriousness that an ordinary observer could be excused for mistaking it as a place for justice. It is difficult to watch a spectacle such as this one in America, a nation that has generally managed to avoid the kind of theatrical show trials we normally associate with Soviet Russia’s Iron Curtain days. Yet here we are. The end result is that the Jan. 6 Committee has permanently destroyed any veneer of objectivity and effectively tainted any potential jury pool by flooding primetime television viewing audiences with misinformation and salacious gossip.
Goal to Box Out Trump
While Pelosi, Garland, and President Joe Biden all insist that J6 investigations into Trump are serious legal matters, the nearly two-year public spectacle is so over-the-top that it is difficult not to conclude that the J6 committee’s principal concern is keeping Trump from running for president again in 2024. Rep. Cheney has gone so far as to explicitly make this point by asserting that he “must never again be anywhere close to the Oval Office.” In a nation with democratic elections, that would presumably be a decision for the voters to make.
Cheney and her colleagues, however, either fear that the American people will make the wrong choice, or they don’t really believe in the value of democratic elections as much as they claim. Either way, the J6 Commission’s efforts to turn President Trump into a criminal target for the Justice Department seem like a cynical bureaucratic workaround for depriving the people of their chance to decide Trump’s fitness for office on their own.
Should Congress’s J6 committee hearings not succeed in keeping Trump off the 2024 ballot, they may ironically be seen years from now as having done much to help Trump get reelected. It’s interesting to go back in time to the fall of 2015 when the Republican primaries were still months away and Republican voters had a veritable all-star class of candidates from whom to choose. According to an Associated Press-GfK poll at the time, an overwhelming 77 percent of Republican voters preferred “an outsider candidate who will change how things are done, rather than someone with experience in Washington who can get things done.” Republicans were so committed to choosing an “outsider” that their top two choices for the White House according to the poll were Ben Carson and Donald Trump.
Although political pundits expected primary voters to change their minds as the 2016 state contests arrived, Republicans’ desire for an “outsider” not only clinched Trump’s nomination but also assured his general election victory. Nothing about the electorate’s mood today suggests that Republican voters are eager to return to mainstream establishment political candidates.
Washington’s vast Never Trump coalition would have been most successful in tanking Trump’s political chances in either 2020 or 2024 had they found a way to embrace him as one of their own, force him to compromise his goals and betray his promises, and leave Americans with the impression that Trump had played voters seeking an “outsider” as fools. Instead, nonstop attacks from D.C.’s permanent bureaucracy have been the hallmarks of the Trump presidency.
From the Russia collusion hoax, the two-year Mueller inquisition, two congressional impeachments, countless administration betrayals, and now two additional years of J6 investigations intent on seeking his prosecution and conviction, it is unmistakably clear that Trump is just as much an outsider today as he was before his first victory. And should voters’ appetites for an outsider candidacy remain as high as they were in 2016, then nobody will have greater tried and true credibility than Trump.
Now that anonymous sources are leaking to The Washington Post that the Department of Justice is officially targeting former President Donald Trump with criminal charges, this is a good time to ask: Just how crazy are the occupants of Washington, D.C.? Do they really think they will indict, prosecute, convict, and imprison the Republican frontrunner for president in 2024 without creating a massive amount of public backlash?
For half the country, trying to take down Trump for giving a speech over a mile away from the Capitol on Jan. 6 while hardly anybody has been held accountable for the atrocious Russia collusion hoax that nearly destroyed his presidency will be nothing less than total confirmation of a two-tiered and irreparably corrupt justice system and could permanently tear the nation in two.
This may come as a shocker to Washington, but Congress’s J6 obsession is not high on Americans’ list of critical issues. Polls show the American people’s top concerns are skyrocketing inflation and economic uncertainty, not what happened on Jan. 6. To say that the American government and the American people are not speaking the same language right now is an understatement.
A Soviet-Like Spectacle
Had Attorney General Merrick Garland felt that Trump had potentially committed a crime before leaving office, he should have pursued an investigation free from the overtly political atmosphere created by Congress’s J6 committee hearings. Whatever Nancy Pelosi’s Jan. 6 Committee is, it has not been a courtroom pursuing justice. Though witnesses are brought before the committee to “confess,” as Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., so Stalin-esquely put it, there is no one cross-examining their testimony for truth or accuracy.
While one side presents a damning case against anyone who even thought about attending rallies near the Capitol that day, there is no defense counsel to challenge evidence, offer competing explanations, or provide mitigating circumstances on the accused’s behalf. No one is present to contest the committee’s allegations at all. Third-party hearsay evidence, normally inadmissible in courts of law, is used to advance the committee’s narratives. For that matter, long-winded and rhetorical political speeches from admittedly biased committee members advance theories of the case not grounded in evidence at all. Exculpatory evidence that might call into question the committee’s grave charges is regularly excluded.
Still, the whole proceeding is conducted with such an air of legal seriousness that an ordinary observer could be excused for mistaking it as a place for justice. It is difficult to watch a spectacle such as this one in America, a nation that has generally managed to avoid the kind of theatrical show trials we normally associate with Soviet Russia’s Iron Curtain days. Yet here we are. The end result is that the Jan. 6 Committee has permanently destroyed any veneer of objectivity and effectively tainted any potential jury pool by flooding primetime television viewing audiences with misinformation and salacious gossip.
Goal to Box Out Trump
While Pelosi, Garland, and President Joe Biden all insist that J6 investigations into Trump are serious legal matters, the nearly two-year public spectacle is so over-the-top that it is difficult not to conclude that the J6 committee’s principal concern is keeping Trump from running for president again in 2024. Rep. Cheney has gone so far as to explicitly make this point by asserting that he “must never again be anywhere close to the Oval Office.” In a nation with democratic elections, that would presumably be a decision for the voters to make.
Cheney and her colleagues, however, either fear that the American people will make the wrong choice, or they don’t really believe in the value of democratic elections as much as they claim. Either way, the J6 Commission’s efforts to turn President Trump into a criminal target for the Justice Department seem like a cynical bureaucratic workaround for depriving the people of their chance to decide Trump’s fitness for office on their own.
Should Congress’s J6 committee hearings not succeed in keeping Trump off the 2024 ballot, they may ironically be seen years from now as having done much to help Trump get reelected. It’s interesting to go back in time to the fall of 2015 when the Republican primaries were still months away and Republican voters had a veritable all-star class of candidates from whom to choose. According to an Associated Press-GfK poll at the time, an overwhelming 77 percent of Republican voters preferred “an outsider candidate who will change how things are done, rather than someone with experience in Washington who can get things done.” Republicans were so committed to choosing an “outsider” that their top two choices for the White House according to the poll were Ben Carson and Donald Trump.
Although political pundits expected primary voters to change their minds as the 2016 state contests arrived, Republicans’ desire for an “outsider” not only clinched Trump’s nomination but also assured his general election victory. Nothing about the electorate’s mood today suggests that Republican voters are eager to return to mainstream establishment political candidates.
Washington’s vast Never Trump coalition would have been most successful in tanking Trump’s political chances in either 2020 or 2024 had they found a way to embrace him as one of their own, force him to compromise his goals and betray his promises, and leave Americans with the impression that Trump had played voters seeking an “outsider” as fools. Instead, nonstop attacks from D.C.’s permanent bureaucracy have been the hallmarks of the Trump presidency.
From the Russia collusion hoax, the two-year Mueller inquisition, two congressional impeachments, countless administration betrayals, and now two additional years of J6 investigations intent on seeking his prosecution and conviction, it is unmistakably clear that Trump is just as much an outsider today as he was before his first victory. And should voters’ appetites for an outsider candidacy remain as high as they were in 2016, then nobody will have greater tried and true credibility than Trump.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Now that anonymous sources are leaking to The Washington Post that the Department of Justice is officially targeting former President Donald Trump with criminal charges, this is a good time to ask: Just how crazy are the occupants of Washington, D.C.? Do they really think they will indict, prosecute, convict, and imprison the Republican frontrunner for president in 2024 without creating a massive amount of public backlash?
For half the country, trying to take down Trump for giving a speech over a mile away from the Capitol on Jan. 6 while hardly anybody has been held accountable for the atrocious Russia collusion hoax that nearly destroyed his presidency will be nothing less than total confirmation of a two-tiered and irreparably corrupt justice system and could permanently tear the nation in two.
This may come as a shocker to Washington, but Congress’s J6 obsession is not high on Americans’ list of critical issues. Polls show the American people’s top concerns are skyrocketing inflation and economic uncertainty, not what happened on Jan. 6. To say that the American government and the American people are not speaking the same language right now is an understatement.
A Soviet-Like Spectacle
Had Attorney General Merrick Garland felt that Trump had potentially committed a crime before leaving office, he should have pursued an investigation free from the overtly political atmosphere created by Congress’s J6 committee hearings. Whatever Nancy Pelosi’s Jan. 6 Committee is, it has not been a courtroom pursuing justice. Though witnesses are brought before the committee to “confess,” as Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., so Stalin-esquely put it, there is no one cross-examining their testimony for truth or accuracy.
While one side presents a damning case against anyone who even thought about attending rallies near the Capitol that day, there is no defense counsel to challenge evidence, offer competing explanations, or provide mitigating circumstances on the accused’s behalf. No one is present to contest the committee’s allegations at all. Third-party hearsay evidence, normally inadmissible in courts of law, is used to advance the committee’s narratives. For that matter, long-winded and rhetorical political speeches from admittedly biased committee members advance theories of the case not grounded in evidence at all. Exculpatory evidence that might call into question the committee’s grave charges is regularly excluded.
Still, the whole proceeding is conducted with such an air of legal seriousness that an ordinary observer could be excused for mistaking it as a place for justice. It is difficult to watch a spectacle such as this one in America, a nation that has generally managed to avoid the kind of theatrical show trials we normally associate with Soviet Russia’s Iron Curtain days. Yet here we are. The end result is that the Jan. 6 Committee has permanently destroyed any veneer of objectivity and effectively tainted any potential jury pool by flooding primetime television viewing audiences with misinformation and salacious gossip.
Goal to Box Out Trump
While Pelosi, Garland, and President Joe Biden all insist that J6 investigations into Trump are serious legal matters, the nearly two-year public spectacle is so over-the-top that it is difficult not to conclude that the J6 committee’s principal concern is keeping Trump from running for president again in 2024. Rep. Cheney has gone so far as to explicitly make this point by asserting that he “must never again be anywhere close to the Oval Office.” In a nation with democratic elections, that would presumably be a decision for the voters to make.
Cheney and her colleagues, however, either fear that the American people will make the wrong choice, or they don’t really believe in the value of democratic elections as much as they claim. Either way, the J6 Commission’s efforts to turn President Trump into a criminal target for the Justice Department seem like a cynical bureaucratic workaround for depriving the people of their chance to decide Trump’s fitness for office on their own.
Should Congress’s J6 committee hearings not succeed in keeping Trump off the 2024 ballot, they may ironically be seen years from now as having done much to help Trump get reelected. It’s interesting to go back in time to the fall of 2015 when the Republican primaries were still months away and Republican voters had a veritable all-star class of candidates from whom to choose. According to an Associated Press-GfK poll at the time, an overwhelming 77 percent of Republican voters preferred “an outsider candidate who will change how things are done, rather than someone with experience in Washington who can get things done.” Republicans were so committed to choosing an “outsider” that their top two choices for the White House according to the poll were Ben Carson and Donald Trump.
Although political pundits expected primary voters to change their minds as the 2016 state contests arrived, Republicans’ desire for an “outsider” not only clinched Trump’s nomination but also assured his general election victory. Nothing about the electorate’s mood today suggests that Republican voters are eager to return to mainstream establishment political candidates.
Washington’s vast Never Trump coalition would have been most successful in tanking Trump’s political chances in either 2020 or 2024 had they found a way to embrace him as one of their own, force him to compromise his goals and betray his promises, and leave Americans with the impression that Trump had played voters seeking an “outsider” as fools. Instead, nonstop attacks from D.C.’s permanent bureaucracy have been the hallmarks of the Trump presidency.
From the Russia collusion hoax, the two-year Mueller inquisition, two congressional impeachments, countless administration betrayals, and now two additional years of J6 investigations intent on seeking his prosecution and conviction, it is unmistakably clear that Trump is just as much an outsider today as he was before his first victory. And should voters’ appetites for an outsider candidacy remain as high as they were in 2016, then nobody will have greater tried and true credibility than Trump.
Now that anonymous sources are leaking to The Washington Post that the Department of Justice is officially targeting former President Donald Trump with criminal charges, this is a good time to ask: Just how crazy are the occupants of Washington, D.C.? Do they really think they will indict, prosecute, convict, and imprison the Republican frontrunner for president in 2024 without creating a massive amount of public backlash?
For half the country, trying to take down Trump for giving a speech over a mile away from the Capitol on Jan. 6 while hardly anybody has been held accountable for the atrocious Russia collusion hoax that nearly destroyed his presidency will be nothing less than total confirmation of a two-tiered and irreparably corrupt justice system and could permanently tear the nation in two.
This may come as a shocker to Washington, but Congress’s J6 obsession is not high on Americans’ list of critical issues. Polls show the American people’s top concerns are skyrocketing inflation and economic uncertainty, not what happened on Jan. 6. To say that the American government and the American people are not speaking the same language right now is an understatement.
A Soviet-Like Spectacle
Had Attorney General Merrick Garland felt that Trump had potentially committed a crime before leaving office, he should have pursued an investigation free from the overtly political atmosphere created by Congress’s J6 committee hearings. Whatever Nancy Pelosi’s Jan. 6 Committee is, it has not been a courtroom pursuing justice. Though witnesses are brought before the committee to “confess,” as Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., so Stalin-esquely put it, there is no one cross-examining their testimony for truth or accuracy.
While one side presents a damning case against anyone who even thought about attending rallies near the Capitol that day, there is no defense counsel to challenge evidence, offer competing explanations, or provide mitigating circumstances on the accused’s behalf. No one is present to contest the committee’s allegations at all. Third-party hearsay evidence, normally inadmissible in courts of law, is used to advance the committee’s narratives. For that matter, long-winded and rhetorical political speeches from admittedly biased committee members advance theories of the case not grounded in evidence at all. Exculpatory evidence that might call into question the committee’s grave charges is regularly excluded.
Still, the whole proceeding is conducted with such an air of legal seriousness that an ordinary observer could be excused for mistaking it as a place for justice. It is difficult to watch a spectacle such as this one in America, a nation that has generally managed to avoid the kind of theatrical show trials we normally associate with Soviet Russia’s Iron Curtain days. Yet here we are. The end result is that the Jan. 6 Committee has permanently destroyed any veneer of objectivity and effectively tainted any potential jury pool by flooding primetime television viewing audiences with misinformation and salacious gossip.
Goal to Box Out Trump
While Pelosi, Garland, and President Joe Biden all insist that J6 investigations into Trump are serious legal matters, the nearly two-year public spectacle is so over-the-top that it is difficult not to conclude that the J6 committee’s principal concern is keeping Trump from running for president again in 2024. Rep. Cheney has gone so far as to explicitly make this point by asserting that he “must never again be anywhere close to the Oval Office.” In a nation with democratic elections, that would presumably be a decision for the voters to make.
Cheney and her colleagues, however, either fear that the American people will make the wrong choice, or they don’t really believe in the value of democratic elections as much as they claim. Either way, the J6 Commission’s efforts to turn President Trump into a criminal target for the Justice Department seem like a cynical bureaucratic workaround for depriving the people of their chance to decide Trump’s fitness for office on their own.
Should Congress’s J6 committee hearings not succeed in keeping Trump off the 2024 ballot, they may ironically be seen years from now as having done much to help Trump get reelected. It’s interesting to go back in time to the fall of 2015 when the Republican primaries were still months away and Republican voters had a veritable all-star class of candidates from whom to choose. According to an Associated Press-GfK poll at the time, an overwhelming 77 percent of Republican voters preferred “an outsider candidate who will change how things are done, rather than someone with experience in Washington who can get things done.” Republicans were so committed to choosing an “outsider” that their top two choices for the White House according to the poll were Ben Carson and Donald Trump.
Although political pundits expected primary voters to change their minds as the 2016 state contests arrived, Republicans’ desire for an “outsider” not only clinched Trump’s nomination but also assured his general election victory. Nothing about the electorate’s mood today suggests that Republican voters are eager to return to mainstream establishment political candidates.
Washington’s vast Never Trump coalition would have been most successful in tanking Trump’s political chances in either 2020 or 2024 had they found a way to embrace him as one of their own, force him to compromise his goals and betray his promises, and leave Americans with the impression that Trump had played voters seeking an “outsider” as fools. Instead, nonstop attacks from D.C.’s permanent bureaucracy have been the hallmarks of the Trump presidency.
From the Russia collusion hoax, the two-year Mueller inquisition, two congressional impeachments, countless administration betrayals, and now two additional years of J6 investigations intent on seeking his prosecution and conviction, it is unmistakably clear that Trump is just as much an outsider today as he was before his first victory. And should voters’ appetites for an outsider candidacy remain as high as they were in 2016, then nobody will have greater tried and true credibility than Trump.
Even after 1/6th you’d still vote for Trumpolinni a 3rd time 🤣🤣🤣 talk about misguided 🤣🤣
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The House Jan. 6 committee said Sunday it will interview more former Cabinet secretaries and is prepared to subpoena conservative activist Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, who's married to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, as part of its investigation of the Capitol riot and Donald Trump's role.
Lawmakers said they are deepening their inquiry after a series of eight hearings in June and July culminating in a prime-time session Thursday, with plans to interview additional witnesses and reconvene in September to resume laying out their findings to the public.
“We anticipate talking to additional members of the president’s Cabinet,” said Rep. Liz Cheney, the committee's vice chair. “We anticipate talking to additional members of his campaign. Certainly, we’re very focused as well on the Secret Service.”
Cheney, R-Wyo., did not identify the Trump administration officials who might come forward, but the committee has previously made clear its interest in speaking with those believed to have considered invoking a constitutional process in the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office after the riot on Jan. 6, 2021, when hundreds of Trump’s supporters violently stormed the Capitol and interrupted the certification of Joe Biden’s election.
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The committee has aired testimony from former Attorney General William Barr, who said he told Trump that widespread voter fraud claims were “bull——” and had “zero basis.” In last week’s hearing, the committee played testimony from then-Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia, who said he urged Trump to call a Cabinet meeting to discuss an orderly transition of power.
Other Cabinet members have indicated they may have important details to share.
Betsy DeVos, the education secretary at the time, previously told USA Today that she raised with Vice President Mike Pence the question of whether the Cabinet should consider invoking the 25th Amendment, which would have required the vice president and the majority of the Cabinet to agree that the president could no longer fulfill his duties.
DeVos, in her resignation letter on Jan. 7, 2021, blamed Trump for inciting the mob. “There is no mistaking the impact your rhetoric had on the situation, and it is the inflection point for me,” she wrote.
On the same day, Elaine Chao quit as transportation secretary. Chao, who is married to Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said the attack had "deeply troubled me in a way that I simply cannot set aside.”
Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state at the time who is considering a 2024 presidential run, and Steven Mnuchin, Trump's treasury secretary, also were reported to have discussed the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment, according to Jonathan Karl of ABC News in his book “Betrayal.”
“The floodgates have opened,” said Rep. Elaine Luria, D-Va., regarding the next phase of its investigation.
Committee members also hope to learn more about Ginni Thomas’ own effort to keep Trump in office and the potential conflicts of interest for Clarence Thomas as a result on Jan. 6 cases that have come before the Supreme Court. The committee sent a letter to Ginni Thomas last month seeking an interview and hopes she will comply, Cheney said.
Thomas communicated with people in Trump’s orbit ahead of the 2021 attack and also on the day of the insurrection.
“We certainly hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily,” Cheney said. “But the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she does not.”
Cheney also said that while the committee hasn’t decided whether to make a criminal referral regarding Trump to the Justice Department, “that’s absolutely something we’re looking at.”
Added Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill.: “I certainly think there’s evidence of crimes and I think it goes all the way up to Donald Trump.”
While a possible Trump prosecution is a matter for the Justice Department, the committee has used its hearings to try to make a case about his political viability as he mulls running in 2024. Some of the most damning testimony aired by the committee has come from Trump’s own top Republican advisers, military leaders and confidants, who admitted to a loss of confidence in his judgment and dedication to the rule of law in the days leading up to and after the Jan. 6 attack.
The committee also wants to get to the bottom of missing Secret Service texts from Jan. 5-6, 2021, that could have shed further light on Trump’s actions during the insurrection, particularly after earlier testimony about his confrontation with security as he tried to join supporters at the Capitol.
Lawmakers also are interested in hearing from Steve Bannon, a Trump ally who was found guilty last week on criminal contempt of Congress charges for refusing to comply with the House committee’s subpoena.
Cheney spoke on CNN's “State of the Union” and “Fox News Sunday,” Kinzinger appeared on ABC's “This Week,” and Luria was on NBC's “Meet the Press."
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AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro and Associated Press writer Mary Clare Jalonick contributed to this report.
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This may come as a shocker to Washington, but Congress’s J6 obsession is not high on Americans’ list of critical issues.
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Now that anonymous sources are leaking to The Washington Post that the Department of Justice is officially targeting former President Donald Trump with criminal charges, this is a good time to ask: Just how crazy are the occupants of Washington, D.C.? Do they really think they will indict, prosecute, convict, and imprison the Republican frontrunner for president in 2024 without creating a massive amount of public backlash?
For half the country, trying to take down Trump for giving a speech over a mile away from the Capitol on Jan. 6 while hardly anybody has been held accountable for the atrocious Russia collusion hoax that nearly destroyed his presidency will be nothing less than total confirmation of a two-tiered and irreparably corrupt justice system and could permanently tear the nation in two.
This may come as a shocker to Washington, but Congress’s J6 obsession is not high on Americans’ list of critical issues. Polls show the American people’s top concerns are skyrocketing inflation and economic uncertainty, not what happened on Jan. 6. To say that the American government and the American people are not speaking the same language right now is an understatement.
A Soviet-Like Spectacle
Had Attorney General Merrick Garland felt that Trump had potentially committed a crime before leaving office, he should have pursued an investigation free from the overtly political atmosphere created by Congress’s J6 committee hearings. Whatever Nancy Pelosi’s Jan. 6 Committee is, it has not been a courtroom pursuing justice. Though witnesses are brought before the committee to “confess,” as Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., so Stalin-esquely put it, there is no one cross-examining their testimony for truth or accuracy.
While one side presents a damning case against anyone who even thought about attending rallies near the Capitol that day, there is no defense counsel to challenge evidence, offer competing explanations, or provide mitigating circumstances on the accused’s behalf. No one is present to contest the committee’s allegations at all. Third-party hearsay evidence, normally inadmissible in courts of law, is used to advance the committee’s narratives. For that matter, long-winded and rhetorical political speeches from admittedly biased committee members advance theories of the case not grounded in evidence at all. Exculpatory evidence that might call into question the committee’s grave charges is regularly excluded.
Still, the whole proceeding is conducted with such an air of legal seriousness that an ordinary observer could be excused for mistaking it as a place for justice. It is difficult to watch a spectacle such as this one in America, a nation that has generally managed to avoid the kind of theatrical show trials we normally associate with Soviet Russia’s Iron Curtain days. Yet here we are. The end result is that the Jan. 6 Committee has permanently destroyed any veneer of objectivity and effectively tainted any potential jury pool by flooding primetime television viewing audiences with misinformation and salacious gossip.
Goal to Box Out Trump
While Pelosi, Garland, and President Joe Biden all insist that J6 investigations into Trump are serious legal matters, the nearly two-year public spectacle is so over-the-top that it is difficult not to conclude that the J6 committee’s principal concern is keeping Trump from running for president again in 2024. Rep. Cheney has gone so far as to explicitly make this point by asserting that he “must never again be anywhere close to the Oval Office.” In a nation with democratic elections, that would presumably be a decision for the voters to make.
Cheney and her colleagues, however, either fear that the American people will make the wrong choice, or they don’t really believe in the value of democratic elections as much as they claim. Either way, the J6 Commission’s efforts to turn President Trump into a criminal target for the Justice Department seem like a cynical bureaucratic workaround for depriving the people of their chance to decide Trump’s fitness for office on their own.
Should Congress’s J6 committee hearings not succeed in keeping Trump off the 2024 ballot, they may ironically be seen years from now as having done much to help Trump get reelected. It’s interesting to go back in time to the fall of 2015 when the Republican primaries were still months away and Republican voters had a veritable all-star class of candidates from whom to choose. According to an Associated Press-GfK poll at the time, an overwhelming 77 percent of Republican voters preferred “an outsider candidate who will change how things are done, rather than someone with experience in Washington who can get things done.” Republicans were so committed to choosing an “outsider” that their top two choices for the White House according to the poll were Ben Carson and Donald Trump.
Although political pundits expected primary voters to change their minds as the 2016 state contests arrived, Republicans’ desire for an “outsider” not only clinched Trump’s nomination but also assured his general election victory. Nothing about the electorate’s mood today suggests that Republican voters are eager to return to mainstream establishment political candidates.
Washington’s vast Never Trump coalition would have been most successful in tanking Trump’s political chances in either 2020 or 2024 had they found a way to embrace him as one of their own, force him to compromise his goals and betray his promises, and leave Americans with the impression that Trump had played voters seeking an “outsider” as fools. Instead, nonstop attacks from D.C.’s permanent bureaucracy have been the hallmarks of the Trump presidency.
From the Russia collusion hoax, the two-year Mueller inquisition, two congressional impeachments, countless administration betrayals, and now two additional years of J6 investigations intent on seeking his prosecution and conviction, it is unmistakably clear that Trump is just as much an outsider today as he was before his first victory. And should voters’ appetites for an outsider candidacy remain as high as they were in 2016, then nobody will have greater tried and true credibility than Trump.
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