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2022 Midterm elections Capitol siege Steve Bannon Congress Kevin McCarthy Donald Trump Elections SubpoenasJan. 6 panel subpoenas McCarthy, four other GOP lawmakersBy MARY CLARE JALONICK, KEVIN FREKING and LISA MASCARO59 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — A House panel issued subpoenas Thursday to House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy and four other GOP lawmakers in its probe into the violent Jan. 6 insurrection, an extraordinary step that has little precedent and is certain to further inflame partisan tensions over the 2021 attack.
The panel is investigating McCarthy’s conversations with then-President Donald Trump the day of the attack and meetings the four other lawmakers had with the White House beforehand as Trump and his aides worked to overturn his 2020 election defeat. The former president's supporters violently pushed past police that day, broke through windows and doors of the Capitol and interrupted the certification of President Joe Biden's victory.
The decision to issue subpoenas to McCarthy, R-Calif., and Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, Andy Biggs of Arizona and Mo Brooks of Alabama is a dramatic show of force by the panel, which has already interviewed nearly 1,000 witnesses and collected more than 100,000 documents as it investigates the worst attack on the Capitol in two centuries.
The move is not without risk, as Republicans are favored to capture back the House majority in this fall's midterm elections and have promised retribution for Democrats if they take control.
After the announcement, McCarthy, who aspires to be House speaker, told reporters “I have not seen a subpoena" and said his view on the Jan. 6 committee has not changed since the nine-lawmaker panel asked for his voluntary cooperation earlier this year.
“They're not conducting a legitimate investigation,” McCarthy said. "Seems as though they just want to go after their political opponents.”
Similarly, Perry told reporters the investigation is a “charade” and said the subpoena is “all about headlines.”
Neither man said whether he would comply.
The panel, made up of seven Democrats and two Republicans, had previously asked for voluntary cooperation from the five lawmakers, along with a handful of other GOP members, but all of them refused to speak with the panel, which debated for months whether to issue the subpoenas.
“Before we hold our hearings next month, we wished to provide members the opportunity to discuss these matters with the committee voluntarily,” said Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson, the Democratic chairman of the panel. “Regrettably, the individuals receiving subpoenas today have refused and we’re forced to take this step to help ensure the committee uncovers facts concerning January 6th.”
Rep. Liz Cheney, the panel’s Republican vice chair, said the step wasn’t taken lightly. The unwillingness of the lawmakers to provide relevant information about the attack, she said, is “a very serious and grave situation.”
Congressional subpoenas for sitting members of Congress, especially for a party leader, have little precedent in recent decades, and it is unclear what the consequences would be if any or all of the five men decline to comply. The House has voted to hold two other noncompliant witnesses, former Trump aides Steve Bannon and Mark Meadows, in contempt, referring their cases to the Justice Department.
In announcing the subpoenas, the Jan. 6 panel said there is historical precedent for the move and noted that the House Ethics Committee has “issued a number of subpoenas to Members of Congress for testimony or documents,” though such actions are generally done secretly.
“We recognize this is fairly unprecedented," said Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, the other GOP member of the panel, after the committee announced the subpoenas. "But the Jan. 6 attack was very unprecedented.”
Kinzinger said it is "important for us to get every piece of information we possibly can.”
McCarthy has acknowledged he spoke with Trump on Jan. 6 as Trump’s supporters were beating police outside the Capitol and forcing their way into the building. But he has not shared many details. The committee requested information about his conversations with Trump “before, during and after” the riot.
McCarthy took to the House floor after the rioters were cleared and said in a forceful speech that Trump “bears responsibility” for the attack and that it was the “saddest day I have ever had” in Congress — even as he went on to join 138 other House Republicans in voting to reject the election results.
Another member of the GOP caucus, Washington Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler, said after the attack that McCarthy had recounted that he told Trump to publicly “call off the riot” and said the violent mob was made up of Trump supporters, not far-left antifa members, as Trump had claimed.
“That’s when, according to McCarthy, the president said, ’Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Herrera Beutler said in a statement last year.
The GOP leader soon made up with Trump, though, visiting him in Florida and rallying House Republicans to vote against investigations of the attack.
The other four men were in touch with the White House for several weeks ahead of the insurrection, talking to Trump and his legal advisers about ways to stop the congressional electoral count on Jan. 6 to certify Joe Biden's victory.
“These members include those who participated in meetings at the White House, those who had direct conversations with President Trump leading up to and during the attack on the Capitol, and those who were involved in the planning and coordination of certain activities on and before January 6th,” the committee said in a release.
Brooks, who has since been critical of Trump, spoke alongside the former president at the massive rally in front of the White House the morning of Jan. 6, telling supporters to “start taking down names and kicking ass” before hundreds of them broke into the Capitol.
Perry spoke to the White House about replacing acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen with an official who was more sympathetic to Trump’s false claims of voter fraud, and Biggs was involved in plans to bring protesters to Washington and pressuring state officials to overturn the legitimate election results, according to the panel. Jordan, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, spoke to Trump on Jan. 6 and was also involved in strategizing how to overturn the election.
Several of their efforts were detailed in texts released to the panel by Meadows, who was Trump’s chief of staff at the time.
“11 days to 1/6 and 25 days to inauguration,” Perry texted Meadows on Dec. 26, 2020. "We gotta get going!”
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Associated Press writer Marc Levy in Harrisburg, Pa. contributed to this report.
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I’m sure this will make a few on here uncomfortable.
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i think this is too little, too late. should have been done a year ago. most of the country has moved on and probably do not care at this point.mickeyrat said:2022 Midterm elections Capitol siege Steve Bannon Congress Kevin McCarthy Donald Trump Elections SubpoenasJan. 6 panel subpoenas McCarthy, four other GOP lawmakersBy MARY CLARE JALONICK, KEVIN FREKING and LISA MASCARO59 mins agoWASHINGTON (AP) — A House panel issued subpoenas Thursday to House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy and four other GOP lawmakers in its probe into the violent Jan. 6 insurrection, an extraordinary step that has little precedent and is certain to further inflame partisan tensions over the 2021 attack.
The panel is investigating McCarthy’s conversations with then-President Donald Trump the day of the attack and meetings the four other lawmakers had with the White House beforehand as Trump and his aides worked to overturn his 2020 election defeat. The former president's supporters violently pushed past police that day, broke through windows and doors of the Capitol and interrupted the certification of President Joe Biden's victory.
The decision to issue subpoenas to McCarthy, R-Calif., and Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, Andy Biggs of Arizona and Mo Brooks of Alabama is a dramatic show of force by the panel, which has already interviewed nearly 1,000 witnesses and collected more than 100,000 documents as it investigates the worst attack on the Capitol in two centuries.
The move is not without risk, as Republicans are favored to capture back the House majority in this fall's midterm elections and have promised retribution for Democrats if they take control.
After the announcement, McCarthy, who aspires to be House speaker, told reporters “I have not seen a subpoena" and said his view on the Jan. 6 committee has not changed since the nine-lawmaker panel asked for his voluntary cooperation earlier this year.
“They're not conducting a legitimate investigation,” McCarthy said. "Seems as though they just want to go after their political opponents.”
Similarly, Perry told reporters the investigation is a “charade” and said the subpoena is “all about headlines.”
Neither man said whether he would comply.
The panel, made up of seven Democrats and two Republicans, had previously asked for voluntary cooperation from the five lawmakers, along with a handful of other GOP members, but all of them refused to speak with the panel, which debated for months whether to issue the subpoenas.
“Before we hold our hearings next month, we wished to provide members the opportunity to discuss these matters with the committee voluntarily,” said Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson, the Democratic chairman of the panel. “Regrettably, the individuals receiving subpoenas today have refused and we’re forced to take this step to help ensure the committee uncovers facts concerning January 6th.”
Rep. Liz Cheney, the panel’s Republican vice chair, said the step wasn’t taken lightly. The unwillingness of the lawmakers to provide relevant information about the attack, she said, is “a very serious and grave situation.”
Congressional subpoenas for sitting members of Congress, especially for a party leader, have little precedent in recent decades, and it is unclear what the consequences would be if any or all of the five men decline to comply. The House has voted to hold two other noncompliant witnesses, former Trump aides Steve Bannon and Mark Meadows, in contempt, referring their cases to the Justice Department.
In announcing the subpoenas, the Jan. 6 panel said there is historical precedent for the move and noted that the House Ethics Committee has “issued a number of subpoenas to Members of Congress for testimony or documents,” though such actions are generally done secretly.
“We recognize this is fairly unprecedented," said Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, the other GOP member of the panel, after the committee announced the subpoenas. "But the Jan. 6 attack was very unprecedented.”
Kinzinger said it is "important for us to get every piece of information we possibly can.”
McCarthy has acknowledged he spoke with Trump on Jan. 6 as Trump’s supporters were beating police outside the Capitol and forcing their way into the building. But he has not shared many details. The committee requested information about his conversations with Trump “before, during and after” the riot.
McCarthy took to the House floor after the rioters were cleared and said in a forceful speech that Trump “bears responsibility” for the attack and that it was the “saddest day I have ever had” in Congress — even as he went on to join 138 other House Republicans in voting to reject the election results.
Another member of the GOP caucus, Washington Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler, said after the attack that McCarthy had recounted that he told Trump to publicly “call off the riot” and said the violent mob was made up of Trump supporters, not far-left antifa members, as Trump had claimed.
“That’s when, according to McCarthy, the president said, ’Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Herrera Beutler said in a statement last year.
The GOP leader soon made up with Trump, though, visiting him in Florida and rallying House Republicans to vote against investigations of the attack.
The other four men were in touch with the White House for several weeks ahead of the insurrection, talking to Trump and his legal advisers about ways to stop the congressional electoral count on Jan. 6 to certify Joe Biden's victory.
“These members include those who participated in meetings at the White House, those who had direct conversations with President Trump leading up to and during the attack on the Capitol, and those who were involved in the planning and coordination of certain activities on and before January 6th,” the committee said in a release.
Brooks, who has since been critical of Trump, spoke alongside the former president at the massive rally in front of the White House the morning of Jan. 6, telling supporters to “start taking down names and kicking ass” before hundreds of them broke into the Capitol.
Perry spoke to the White House about replacing acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen with an official who was more sympathetic to Trump’s false claims of voter fraud, and Biggs was involved in plans to bring protesters to Washington and pressuring state officials to overturn the legitimate election results, according to the panel. Jordan, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, spoke to Trump on Jan. 6 and was also involved in strategizing how to overturn the election.
Several of their efforts were detailed in texts released to the panel by Meadows, who was Trump’s chief of staff at the time.
“11 days to 1/6 and 25 days to inauguration,” Perry texted Meadows on Dec. 26, 2020. "We gotta get going!”
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Associated Press writer Marc Levy in Harrisburg, Pa. contributed to this report.
i doubt this will result in little more than 500 pleadings of the 5th, and even more "i don't remember" responses."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Petey Navarro is awful desperate not to go to jail. His delaying tactics aren’t going to work unless POOTWH gets re-elected and pardons him. What a lap dog of a traitor.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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i saw the hearings are going to be in prime time next week.
at this point nothing is going to happen to trump or any of his allies, so what is the point in doing the hearings? we all know they are guilty and nothing will come of it. the hearings will confirm all that we already know. the trumpers will not watch it. fox will shit all over the hearings if they even cover them at all. and all this is going to do is motivate the maga individuals to come out to the polls."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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I believe there are going to be some pretty damning bombshells of either the extent of the planning, content of conversations and messages and some of the characters involved, SCOTUS Thomas perhaps? Most ‘Muricans haven’t been paying attention all that much and if they tune in, whether to the hearings or the reporting thereof, they may very well be disgusted by what transpired in the lead up to and the aftermath of 1/6.gimmesometruth27 said:i saw the hearings are going to be in prime time next week.
at this point nothing is going to happen to trump or any of his allies, so what is the point in doing the hearings? we all know they are guilty and nothing will come of it. the hearings will confirm all that we already know. the trumpers will not watch it. fox will shit all over the hearings if they even cover them at all. and all this is going to do is motivate the maga individuals to come out to the polls.
Will it change anything? Very unlikely. Its way too late.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Agreed.Halifax2TheMax said:
I believe there are going to be some pretty damning bombshells of either the extent of the planning, content of conversations and messages and some of the characters involved, SCOTUS Thomas perhaps? Most ‘Muricans haven’t been paying attention all that much and if they tune in, whether to the hearings or the reporting thereof, they may very well be disgusted by what transpired in the lead up to and the aftermath of 1/6.gimmesometruth27 said:i saw the hearings are going to be in prime time next week.
at this point nothing is going to happen to trump or any of his allies, so what is the point in doing the hearings? we all know they are guilty and nothing will come of it. the hearings will confirm all that we already know. the trumpers will not watch it. fox will shit all over the hearings if they even cover them at all. and all this is going to do is motivate the maga individuals to come out to the polls.
Will it change anything? Very unlikely. Its way too late.
Conservative Christians have been showing us for years that they would rather burn the country to the ground than share it with people they don't like.
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Agreed.Halifax2TheMax said:
I believe there are going to be some pretty damning bombshells of either the extent of the planning, content of conversations and messages and some of the characters involved, SCOTUS Thomas perhaps? Most ‘Muricans haven’t been paying attention all that much and if they tune in, whether to the hearings or the reporting thereof, they may very well be disgusted by what transpired in the lead up to and the aftermath of 1/6.gimmesometruth27 said:i saw the hearings are going to be in prime time next week.
at this point nothing is going to happen to trump or any of his allies, so what is the point in doing the hearings? we all know they are guilty and nothing will come of it. the hearings will confirm all that we already know. the trumpers will not watch it. fox will shit all over the hearings if they even cover them at all. and all this is going to do is motivate the maga individuals to come out to the polls.
Will it change anything? Very unlikely. Its way too late.
Conservative Christians have been showing us for years that they would rather burn the country to the ground than share it with people they don't like.
I don't think there's any stopping the train at this point.
really ironic too that they wouldnt know Christ if they saw him crossing a border.......
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That's because they'd be looking for a blonde haired, blue eyed, pale skinned white guymickeyrat said:Merkin Baller said:
Agreed.Halifax2TheMax said:
I believe there are going to be some pretty damning bombshells of either the extent of the planning, content of conversations and messages and some of the characters involved, SCOTUS Thomas perhaps? Most ‘Muricans haven’t been paying attention all that much and if they tune in, whether to the hearings or the reporting thereof, they may very well be disgusted by what transpired in the lead up to and the aftermath of 1/6.gimmesometruth27 said:i saw the hearings are going to be in prime time next week.
at this point nothing is going to happen to trump or any of his allies, so what is the point in doing the hearings? we all know they are guilty and nothing will come of it. the hearings will confirm all that we already know. the trumpers will not watch it. fox will shit all over the hearings if they even cover them at all. and all this is going to do is motivate the maga individuals to come out to the polls.
Will it change anything? Very unlikely. Its way too late.
Conservative Christians have been showing us for years that they would rather burn the country to the ground than share it with people they don't like.
I don't think there's any stopping the train at this point.
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How’s everyone feeling about Pence’s Chief of Staff contacting the Secret Service to express his fear for Pence’s safety? Threats not from BLM or ANTIIIIIIIIIIFA but from POOTWH and his minions? Everyone okay with it? Just another normal day in the world’s greatest democracy? Everyone good with it?
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He would bow down to kiss his feet if the Orange idiot is ever in charge again!Halifax2TheMax said:How’s everyone feeling about Pence’s Chief of Staff contacting the Secret Service to express his fear for Pence’s safety? Threats not from BLM or ANTIIIIIIIIIIFA but from POOTWH and his minions? Everyone okay with it? Just another normal day in the world’s greatest democracy? Everyone good with it?
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gift articleDemocrats, remember the Mueller report? Do the opposite in the Jan. 6 hearings.
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Columnist |June 6, 2022 at 7:52 a.m. EDTRep. Bennie G. Thompson, chair of the Jan. 6 committee, sits between Rep. Zoe Lofgren (left) and Rep. Liz Cheney, the vice chair. (J. Scott Applewhite/AP)Democracy defenders know what the Jan. 6 committee hearings due to begin Thursday must not do: follow the example of the Mueller report. That report and its author’s testimony were long, confusing and inconclusive.
The Jan. 6 hearings and final report should aim to be the anti-Mueller report. Punchy hearings with plenty of visual aids, bullet-point summaries and concise testimony must deliver the definitive account of defeated president Donald Trump’s coup starting well before Jan. 6, 2021; a conclusion as to his criminality; and a compelling explanation for why prosecuting Trump and officials involved in the plot to overthrow the government is essential.
The committee has two audiences. The most critical is the public at large. Rational Americans not already determined to exonerate Trump should be convinced of his intimate involvement in the coup, of the seriousness of his actions and of the need for prosecution. Ideally, there should be a groundswell of support for prosecution.
The evidence must be so compelling that Republicans’ ongoing efforts to perpetrate the “big lie” and to rationalize or downplay the insurrection make them look foolish, dishonest and malicious. Perhaps that will encourage the media to stop treating Trump enablers as normal politicians and confront them at every opportunity about their betrayal of the country.
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The second audience is the Justice Department. Its attorneys must be convinced by the facts presented that failure to prosecute is unthinkable. While the committee will not be bound by rules of evidence, the proceedings can go a long way toward illustrating just how compelling an account can be painted for a jury. Whether the committee makes a formal referral or not, Justice Department officials confident of successful prosecution should come away with powerful ammunition to convince their more reluctant colleagues.
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I really hope it works out the way she’s hoping it does! Otherwise I think our democracy is done!mickeyrat said:gift articleDemocrats, remember the Mueller report? Do the opposite in the Jan. 6 hearings.Opinion
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June 6, 2022 at 7:52 a.m. EDTRep. Bennie G. Thompson, chair of the Jan. 6 committee, sits between Rep. Zoe Lofgren (left) and Rep. Liz Cheney, the vice chair. (J. Scott Applewhite/AP)Democracy defenders know what the Jan. 6 committee hearings due to begin Thursday must not do: follow the example of the Mueller report. That report and its author’s testimony were long, confusing and inconclusive.
The Jan. 6 hearings and final report should aim to be the anti-Mueller report. Punchy hearings with plenty of visual aids, bullet-point summaries and concise testimony must deliver the definitive account of defeated president Donald Trump’s coup starting well before Jan. 6, 2021; a conclusion as to his criminality; and a compelling explanation for why prosecuting Trump and officials involved in the plot to overthrow the government is essential.
The committee has two audiences. The most critical is the public at large. Rational Americans not already determined to exonerate Trump should be convinced of his intimate involvement in the coup, of the seriousness of his actions and of the need for prosecution. Ideally, there should be a groundswell of support for prosecution.
The evidence must be so compelling that Republicans’ ongoing efforts to perpetrate the “big lie” and to rationalize or downplay the insurrection make them look foolish, dishonest and malicious. Perhaps that will encourage the media to stop treating Trump enablers as normal politicians and confront them at every opportunity about their betrayal of the country.
Follow Jennifer Rubin's opinionsFollowThe second audience is the Justice Department. Its attorneys must be convinced by the facts presented that failure to prosecute is unthinkable. While the committee will not be bound by rules of evidence, the proceedings can go a long way toward illustrating just how compelling an account can be painted for a jury. Whether the committee makes a formal referral or not, Justice Department officials confident of successful prosecution should come away with powerful ammunition to convince their more reluctant colleagues.
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It's highly unlikely they'll be any evidence of Trump's input outside of hearsay, and that all gets rejected by the majority of the public. He makes sure nothing is documented, kind of the opposite of Nixon.
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pretty damn hard to prove incitement when he can easily argue (in court, we all know his actual intentions) that he didn't directly incite the crowd to do what they did, nor did he coordinate it. nothing will come of this except galvanized support for the man that is being "unjustly targeted by the radical democrats who are trying to destroy our country".By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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