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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    mcgruff10 said:
    bbiggs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Better.
    Keep your Grievance and put in Sad for Marker.  I like that call out that was made for that one.
    👍🏻 Sad to grievance > marker to grievance 
    Marker is waaaaaaay better than sad.  
    Crazy talk right there. 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,766
    Sad is awesome.  Marker is meh.  
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  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,465
    I have to say I like Marker better. Boom’s organ at the end is killer. But Sad is pretty awesome!
  • coco butter
    coco butter Posts: 1,494
    NewJPage said:
    PJNB said:
    Hard to Imagine and Parting Ways and I will die a happy man! 
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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    Anyone who doubts "Sad", check out Hartford '08. Whole show is awesome, but Sad rips.
    Hope to see a lot of Lost Dogs love in '22!
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  • on2legs
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  • hihobibo
    hihobibo Tampa, FL Posts: 1,140
    Just to clarify, a second 2022 rumor thread was started after the original was locked due to it veering too far off topic, but then in 2 pages of comments, there are still not any actual 2022 rumors posted, but a debate on which songs could be played in 2022? 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    edited July 2021
    I ve never heard bee girl or big wave live, it s be nice to hear them.  Actually big wave at shn has a nice ring to it.  
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 657
    I’m at the point where I’m actually dying to see Even Flow again. 
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  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,465
    DM282158 said:
    I’m at the point where I’m actually dying to see Even Flow again. 
    Yes! I had a six year tour drought once and was absolutely thrilled with the Atlanta Music Midtown set list. I had no quibbles about so many hits. It will be great to see them play anything!

    (For a festival show, Midtown was fantastic and the bootleg is really great.)
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    DM282158 said:
    I’m at the point where I’m actually dying to see Even Flow again. 

    Woooah.  I'm not there yet.. lol. 

    For me Corduroy is my litmus test.  I've been going to too many shows when I stop enjoying it, when I am enjoying it, it hasn't been enough.

    Even Flow and DTE though.  I think I'd need to go quite the while.. lol.

    I'm currently at just shy of 3 years.. which is towards the longer end of my biggest gaps between shows.   I usually seem to see a few in a year, then it's a few off years, then rinse repeat.   

    Could really go for a show right now though.... need me some corduroy :)
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    edited July 2021
    hihobibo said:
    Just to clarify, a second 2022 rumor thread was started after the original was locked due to it veering too far off topic, but then in 2 pages of comments, there are still not any actual 2022 rumors posted, but a debate on which songs could be played in 2022? 


    Sooo... Does anyone know *for sure* if the band is required to play the original cities *before* they play other/new ones?

    Option 1: A tour of *only* the original cities before new cities are booked and announced.

    Option 2: A tour of *some of* the original cities with new ones mixed in. Cities that don't get booked for this tour get refunded.

    Option 3: A tour of *all* the original cities with new ones mixed in.

    Option 4: The original cities get refunded and a whole new tour happens. Some cities may "carry over" with new ticketing procedures while other cities may not.

    Option 5:  Some other possibility.


    My guesses in numerical order: 1, 2, 4.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/pearl-jams-jeff-ament-i-dont-know-if-i-wanna-go-out-and-do-30-shows-where-youre-checking-vaccination-cards/

    And with the email now, it looks like 2022 will be what 2020 was supposed to be.

    Early 2022 - USA dates, but only the cities we know.
    Mid 2022 - Europe
    Late 2022 - USA?
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    Lost In Ohio said:
    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/pearl-jams-jeff-ament-i-dont-know-if-i-wanna-go-out-and-do-30-shows-where-youre-checking-vaccination-cards/

    And with the email now, it looks like 2022 will be what 2020 was supposed to be.

    Early 2022 - USA dates, but only the cities we know.
    Mid 2022 - Europe
    Late 2022 - USA?
    Sure does.  
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  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    edited July 2021
    Lost In Ohio said:
    hihobibo said:
    Just to clarify, a second 2022 rumor thread was started after the original was locked due to it veering too far off topic, but then in 2 pages of comments, there are still not any actual 2022 rumors posted, but a debate on which songs could be played in 2022? 


    Sooo... Does anyone know *for sure* if the band is required to play the original cities *before* they play other/new ones?

    Option 1: A tour of *only* the original cities before new cities are booked and announced.

    Option 2: A tour of *some of* the original cities with new ones mixed in. Cities that don't get booked for this tour get refunded.

    Option 3: A tour of *all* the original cities with new ones mixed in.

    Option 4: The original cities get refunded and a whole new tour happens. Some cities may "carry over" with new ticketing procedures while other cities may not.

    Option 5:  Some other possibility.


    My guesses in numerical order: 1, 2, 4.
    2 and 3 are pretty similar, but I'd say 3 as I don't think they will be refunding/not making up the already sold out shows. I don't see any scenario where Pearl Jam would be required (legally) to play the original cities before adding/playing different shows, but I think they would want to take care of those shows during the next US tour because of logistics and general logic. Based on some of the rumors, I think they will be adding additional shows, so #3.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,806
    mcgruff10 said:
    I ve never heard bee girl or big wave live, it s be nice to hear them.  Actually big wave at shn has a nice ring to it.  
    Bee Girl ...ugggh.  that is how much I love Pearl Jam, that I would be happy to stand through that silliness again.  I've seen it too many times and it isn't good the first time.
    So weak.  
    I dislike Parachutes and Yellow Spoon but at least those are real songs.  Bee Girl is just a goof.

    But....I'll be happy to hear it if they want to play it, come MSG & Baltimore in spring 2022.

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I ve never heard bee girl or big wave live, it s be nice to hear them.  Actually big wave at shn has a nice ring to it.  
    Bee Girl ...ugggh.  that is how much I love Pearl Jam, that I would be happy to stand through that silliness again.  I've seen it too many times and it isn't good the first time.
    So weak.  
    I dislike Parachutes and Yellow Spoon but at least those are real songs.  Bee Girl is just a goof.

    But....I'll be happy to hear it if they want to play it, come MSG & Baltimore in spring 2022.

    No SHN for you?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    The update from 10C yesterday was very much appreciated and just what everyone was waiting for.  I sure hope these Spring 2022 shows go off without a hitch.  A repeat of what happened in 2020 with cancellations would be a gut punch.

    I also wonder if they'll announce the second leg when they confirm dates for Spring.  Looking forward to some of those rumored 2020 second leg shows to come to fruition.  Exciting times around here again!
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Lost In Ohio said:
    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/pearl-jams-jeff-ament-i-dont-know-if-i-wanna-go-out-and-do-30-shows-where-youre-checking-vaccination-cards/

    And with the email now, it looks like 2022 will be what 2020 was supposed to be.

    Early 2022 - USA dates, but only the cities we know.
    Mid 2022 - Europe
    Late 2022 - USA?
    That's my guess (just a guess! I have no rumors). The Killers announced their rescheduled North American dates yesterday, and it looks like everything was moved from August 2020 to August 2022. So I'm expecting (again, based on ZERO information) that the postponed PJ dates will happen next March or April.

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  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    curmudgeoness said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/pearl-jams-jeff-ament-i-dont-know-if-i-wanna-go-out-and-do-30-shows-where-youre-checking-vaccination-cards/

    And with the email now, it looks like 2022 will be what 2020 was supposed to be.

    Early 2022 - USA dates, but only the cities we know.
    Mid 2022 - Europe
    Late 2022 - USA?
    That's my guess (just a guess! I have no rumors). The Killers announced their rescheduled North American dates yesterday, and it looks like everything was moved from August 2020 to August 2022. So I'm expecting (again, based on ZERO information) that the postponed PJ dates will happen next March or April.

    Thats what I’m thinking as well.  Spring 2022 will look very similar to spring 2020.   March/April.  I’m figuring the fall 2022 will be announced in May with the first shows ( Wrigley Field?) starting in late August 
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