2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • mpedonempedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,941
    dmbolp said:
    dmbolp said:
    mfc2006 said:
    I mean at this point, there has to be some serious drama or disagreement within the inner circle of the band, right?  If the WHOLE band was in lock-step as others have noted, hundreds of bands have announced make-up dates or brand new tours in the past 6 months.  I mean, it can be humorous to call out Stone or Jeff or Boom, but I think the sad truth is that one (or more) of the core members is holding up the whole train.  10C is stuck in the middle of the band and the fans and has no choice but to keep putting out these vague announcements.  It's Occam's Razor, this is the simplest explanation for the compounded delays.
    That's one hell of an assumption. Scheduling a tour isn't just about the band members, though. There are many other people/entities involved.
    And hundreds of other bands have done it, heck, many have done it twice!! (2021 & 2022)
    Unfair comparison, as this group has a nutty world traveling fan base. Greta Van Fleet? Not so much. Let's all just chill. 
    Oh, they're planning the travel for all fans across the world?  When then take some more time and just add my flights to my Delta or Southwest account! :)

    They're just rescheduling a handful of tour dates...from two years ago...no impact to them from where the fans come from
    So consideration of a traveling fan base (both domestic and abroad) have zero impact on the delays? Is that what you're saying? 

    I'm confused by this. How does the traveling fan base make rescheduling more complicated?
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,116
    mpedone said:
    dmbolp said:
    dmbolp said:
    mfc2006 said:
    I mean at this point, there has to be some serious drama or disagreement within the inner circle of the band, right?  If the WHOLE band was in lock-step as others have noted, hundreds of bands have announced make-up dates or brand new tours in the past 6 months.  I mean, it can be humorous to call out Stone or Jeff or Boom, but I think the sad truth is that one (or more) of the core members is holding up the whole train.  10C is stuck in the middle of the band and the fans and has no choice but to keep putting out these vague announcements.  It's Occam's Razor, this is the simplest explanation for the compounded delays.
    That's one hell of an assumption. Scheduling a tour isn't just about the band members, though. There are many other people/entities involved.
    And hundreds of other bands have done it, heck, many have done it twice!! (2021 & 2022)
    Unfair comparison, as this group has a nutty world traveling fan base. Greta Van Fleet? Not so much. Let's all just chill. 
    Oh, they're planning the travel for all fans across the world?  When then take some more time and just add my flights to my Delta or Southwest account! :)

    They're just rescheduling a handful of tour dates...from two years ago...no impact to them from where the fans come from
    So consideration of a traveling fan base (both domestic and abroad) have zero impact on the delays? Is that what you're saying? 

    I'm confused by this. How does the traveling fan base make rescheduling more complicated?
    And how does waiting this long help a traveling fan base make traveling plans? 
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  • FLRUFFALOFLRUFFALO Posts: 101
    I just got an alert from TM that the LA shows are now May 6 and 7
  • jeremyjmcbjeremyjmcb Posts: 129
    LA shows showing rescheduled on Ticketmaster and on my tickets.
  • Triberjay25Triberjay25 Posts: 116
    LA night one just updated on my app to May 6
    03/20/94 - Ann Arbor
    09/22/96 - Toledo
    10/16/14 - Detroit
    09/26/21 - Dana Point
    10/01/21 - Dana Point
    10/02/21 - Dana Point
    05/06/22 - Los Angeles
    05/07/22 - Los Angeles 
    07/03/22 - Stockholm
    07/05/22 - Copenhagen
    09/08/22 - Toronto 
    09/16/22 - Nashville
    09/18/22 - St. Louis
    09/20/22 - OKC
    09/05/23 - Chicago 
    09/07/23 - Chicago 
    05/16/24 - Vegas
    05/18/24 - Vegas
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,116
    Here we go! Leak away, Ticketmaster, leak away!
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,116
    A Friday/Saturday two night stand in LA. Very nice. 
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,405
    JimmyV said:
    Here we go! Leak away, Ticketmaster, leak away!
    Yes! No date on my OKC tickets yet
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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 551


    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • My tickets for LA have been updated to May 7th. Anyone else? 
  • marcPJfanmarcPJfan Posts: 820
    My tickets for LA have been updated to May 7th. Anyone else? 
    Yes.  May 6-7
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  • The_Giant_MidgetThe_Giant_Midget Los Angeles Posts: 566
    i have May 6 and May 7 for Forum showing up on my tix as well
    Beacon '08
    Philly 2-4 '09
    Newark '10
    MSG 1+2 '10
    E.V. Beacon 1+2 '11
    Made in America Festival '12
    Worcester 1+2 '13
    Brooklyn 1+2 '13
    Global Citizens Festival '15
    MSG 1+2 '16
    Fenway Park 1+2 '16
    Ohana '17
    Home Shows 1+2 '18
    Ohana '18
    Ohana '19
    Sea Hear Now '21
    Ohana '21
    LA 1+2 '22
    Austin 1+2 '23
    Ohana '23
    Vegas 1+2 '24
    LA 1+2 '24
    MSG 1+2 '24
  • craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,298
    Come on Oakland and Phx
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Posts: 7,730
    Truly laughable that people find out this way and not directly from the band/10c.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,116
    C'mon big money! No whammies!
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  • reyrey Posts: 277
    TM website has the LA shows as May 6 and 7.  The rest of the North America shows are still TBA/Postponed.  
  • craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,298
    Whoops someone at Ticket master just got fired.. Events removed already 
  • given2fly23given2fly23 Posts: 5,902

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  • kaw753kaw753 Posts: 822
    Yeessssssss.... Saturday night at The Forum!!!!

    Wait, I am unemployed. Every night is Saturday night.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,116
    Maybe coming days will mean tomorrow. Who knows?
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  • estarr31estarr31 Posts: 575
    Mine still says TBA under past events on TM. 
    Mansfield 6/30/08 -  Wrigley Field 7/14/13 -  Worcester I 10/15/13 -  Global Citizen 9/26/15 -  MSG II 5/2/16 -  Fenway I 8/5/16 -  Fenway II 8/7/16 -  Fenway II 9/4/18 - LA I 5/6/22 - LA II 5/7/22 - MSG 9/11/22 - Nashville 9/16/22 - St. Paul I and II 8/31/23-9/2/23
  • Spoonman110Spoonman110 Posts: 348
    Now we just need one more west coast date to see which whey they are travelling. I'm guessing they start in Oakland on May 3 and 4, travel south through LA and SD, across to Phoenix and end in Vegas on May 20

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  • NoloadNoload Posts: 1,630
    ComeToTX said:
    Truly laughable that people find out this way and not directly from the band/10c.
    I think I said 50 pages back, we will hear it from the band last and I think one of the many heroes on here corrected me.
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  • OgnitOgnit Posts: 64
    JimmyV said:
    I don't think they are being assholes and I don't think they are treating customers poorly because they want to. 

    I think they are treating customers poorly because their business operation is poorly run and poorly managed. 
    Probably, If they wanted to play the shows over the last 2 years they would have done so.  I had tickets for multiple different events in multiple different city’s and Pearl Jam is the only one that did this (I’m sure there are other examples).  We’re not exactly talking about a lot of shows here.  Now I get that indoor arenas we’re a little different than say baseball stadiums so it may have been easier for say Green Day/Weezer to play the 2020 dates in 2021 (Although I did just attend a rescheduled show at MSG last month).  Other than Pearl Jam the last ticket I’m holding from 2020 is for the Wallflowers/Matchbox 20 which I won from sirius and is now pushed out to 2023.  But the difference here is new dates have been announced fairly quickly (even if they are a year out).  
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,116
    Noload said:
    ComeToTX said:
    Truly laughable that people find out this way and not directly from the band/10c.
    I think I said 50 pages back, we will hear it from the band last and I think one of the many heroes on here corrected me.
    The TM leak is a tradition around here. Was always going to be this way. The 10c vows of secrecy and silence aren't always observed by other companies. 
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  • nc_jammer1nc_jammer1 Posts: 547
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Posts: 5,902
    JimmyV said:
    Noload said:
    ComeToTX said:
    Truly laughable that people find out this way and not directly from the band/10c.
    I think I said 50 pages back, we will hear it from the band last and I think one of the many heroes on here corrected me.
    The TM leak is a tradition around here. Was always going to be this way. The 10c vows of secrecy and silence aren't always observed by other companies. 
    Exactly.  It's always TM, box office, or radio station leaks before the band confirms.

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,116
    C'mon, Ticketmaster! You've got one more leak in you! We have faith in you! You can do it!
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  • kerbjackkerbjack Posts: 218
    Now when is San Diego, before or after LA? 

    MLB Lockout almost over, need to book some Dodgers tickets while I'm down there.

    OMG IT'S HAPPPPPPPPPENING!!!!
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  • kaw753kaw753 Posts: 822
    kerbjack said:
    Now when is San Diego, before or after LA? 

    MLB Lockout almost over, need to book some Dodgers tickets while I'm down there.

    OMG IT'S HAPPPPPPPPPENING!!!!
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