I mean at this point, there has to be some serious drama or disagreement within the inner circle of the band, right? If the WHOLE band was in lock-step as others have noted, hundreds of bands have announced make-up dates or brand new tours in the past 6 months. I mean, it can be humorous to call out Stone or Jeff or Boom, but I think the sad truth is that one (or more) of the core members is holding up the whole train. 10C is stuck in the middle of the band and the fans and has no choice but to keep putting out these vague announcements. It's Occam's Razor, this is the simplest explanation for the compounded delays.
That's one hell of an assumption. Scheduling a tour isn't just about the band members, though. There are many other people/entities involved.
And hundreds of other bands have done it, heck, many have done it twice!! (2021 & 2022)
Unfair comparison, as this group has a nutty world traveling fan base. Greta Van Fleet? Not so much. Let's all just chill.
Oh, they're planning the travel for all fans across the world? When then take some more time and just add my flights to my Delta or Southwest account!
They're just rescheduling a handful of tour dates...from two years ago...no impact to them from where the fans come from
So consideration of a traveling fan base (both domestic and abroad) have zero impact on the delays? Is that what you're saying?
I'm confused by this. How does the traveling fan base make rescheduling more complicated?
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I mean at this point, there has to be some serious drama or disagreement within the inner circle of the band, right? If the WHOLE band was in lock-step as others have noted, hundreds of bands have announced make-up dates or brand new tours in the past 6 months. I mean, it can be humorous to call out Stone or Jeff or Boom, but I think the sad truth is that one (or more) of the core members is holding up the whole train. 10C is stuck in the middle of the band and the fans and has no choice but to keep putting out these vague announcements. It's Occam's Razor, this is the simplest explanation for the compounded delays.
That's one hell of an assumption. Scheduling a tour isn't just about the band members, though. There are many other people/entities involved.
And hundreds of other bands have done it, heck, many have done it twice!! (2021 & 2022)
Unfair comparison, as this group has a nutty world traveling fan base. Greta Van Fleet? Not so much. Let's all just chill.
Oh, they're planning the travel for all fans across the world? When then take some more time and just add my flights to my Delta or Southwest account!
They're just rescheduling a handful of tour dates...from two years ago...no impact to them from where the fans come from
So consideration of a traveling fan base (both domestic and abroad) have zero impact on the delays? Is that what you're saying?
I'm confused by this. How does the traveling fan base make rescheduling more complicated?
And how does waiting this long help a traveling fan base make traveling plans?
03/20/94 - Ann Arbor 09/22/96 - Toledo 10/16/14 - Detroit 09/26/21 - Dana Point 10/01/21 - Dana Point 10/02/21 - Dana Point 05/06/22 - Los Angeles 05/07/22 - Los Angeles 07/03/22 - Stockholm 07/05/22 - Copenhagen 09/08/22 - Toronto 09/16/22 - Nashville 09/18/22 - St. Louis 09/20/22 - OKC 09/05/23 - Chicago 09/07/23 - Chicago 05/16/24 - Vegas 05/18/24 - Vegas
Mansfield 6/30/08 - Wrigley Field 7/14/13 - Worcester I 10/15/13 - Global Citizen 9/26/15 - MSG II 5/2/16 - Fenway I 8/5/16 - Fenway II 8/7/16 - Fenway II 9/4/18 - LA I 5/6/22 - LA II 5/7/22 - MSG 9/11/22 - Nashville 9/16/22 - St. Paul I and II 8/31/23-9/2/23
Now we just need one more west coast date to see which whey they are travelling. I'm guessing they start in Oakland on May 3 and 4, travel south through LA and SD, across to Phoenix and end in Vegas on May 20
Fargo, ND 6/15/03
Winnipeg, MB 9/8/05
St Paul, MN 6/27/06
Chicago, IL 8/5/07
East Troy, WI 9/3/11, 9/4/11
Winnipeg, MB 9/17/11
Chicago, IL 7/19/13
St Paul, MN 10/19/14
Miami, FL 04/09/16
Tampa, FL 04/11/16
Fenway 1 & 2 08/05/16, 08/07/16Wrigley 1 & 2 08/18/18, 08/20/18Oakland 1 & 2 05/12/22, 05/13/22
I don't think they are being assholes and I don't think they are treating customers poorly because they want to.
I think they are treating customers poorly because their business operation is poorly run and poorly managed.
Probably, If they wanted to play the shows over the last 2 years they would have done so. I had tickets for multiple different events in multiple different city’s and Pearl Jam is the only one that did this (I’m sure there are other examples). We’re not exactly talking about a lot of shows here. Now I get that indoor arenas we’re a little different than say baseball stadiums so it may have been easier for say Green Day/Weezer to play the 2020 dates in 2021 (Although I did just attend a rescheduled show at MSG last month). Other than Pearl Jam the last ticket I’m holding from 2020 is for the Wallflowers/Matchbox 20 which I won from sirius and is now pushed out to 2023. But the difference here is new dates have been announced fairly quickly (even if they are a year out).
Truly laughable that people find out this way and not directly from the band/10c.
I think I said 50 pages back, we will hear it from the band last and I think one of the many heroes on here corrected me.
The TM leak is a tradition around here. Was always going to be this way. The 10c vows of secrecy and silence aren't always observed by other companies.
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Truly laughable that people find out this way and not directly from the band/10c.
I think I said 50 pages back, we will hear it from the band last and I think one of the many heroes on here corrected me.
The TM leak is a tradition around here. Was always going to be this way. The 10c vows of secrecy and silence aren't always observed by other companies.
Exactly. It's always TM, box office, or radio station leaks before the band confirms.
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I'm confused by this. How does the traveling fan base make rescheduling more complicated?
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09/22/96 - Toledo
10/16/14 - Detroit
09/26/21 - Dana Point
10/01/21 - Dana Point
10/02/21 - Dana Point
05/06/22 - Los Angeles
05/07/22 - Los Angeles
07/03/22 - Stockholm
07/05/22 - Copenhagen
09/08/22 - Toronto
09/16/22 - Nashville
09/18/22 - St. Louis
09/20/22 - OKC
09/05/23 - Chicago
09/07/23 - Chicago
05/16/24 - Vegas
05/18/24 - Vegas
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
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1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Philly 2-4 '09
Newark '10
MSG 1+2 '10
E.V. Beacon 1+2 '11
Made in America Festival '12
Worcester 1+2 '13
Brooklyn 1+2 '13
Global Citizens Festival '15
MSG 1+2 '16
Fenway Park 1+2 '16
Ohana '17
Home Shows 1+2 '18
Ohana '18
Ohana '19
Sea Hear Now '21
Ohana '21
LA 1+2 '22
Austin 1+2 '23
Ohana '23
Vegas 1+2 '24
LA 1+2 '24
MSG 1+2 '24
Ohana '24
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MLB Lockout almost over, need to book some Dodgers tickets while I'm down there.
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