2022 North American rumour thread take 2
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 Who? I kid.Weston1283 said:my Guardians were destined for empty stadiums all season lockout or not lol
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 Yeah, it took me a few seconds to remember that they changed their name.bbiggs said:
 Who? I kid.Weston1283 said:my Guardians were destined for empty stadiums all season lockout or not lol0
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 I don't really care about baseball but the players are locked out, not on strike. They didn't bail on anything.jimjam1982 said:
 Talk about players bailing on their fans so they could drive tickets up to $150 for bleacher seats so they could 600m contracts instead of 400m and oh BTW fully guaranteed even if they suck.JimmyV said:
 Talk about organizations alienating their fanbase.mattcoz said:All of my current rage is directed towards MLB, I have none left for this.
 Is it the 10c organization or is it the band? The band are the players here. Redirect your energy to them. 10c just follows orders.
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            Completely crazy not announcing the tour dates. Feel lucky here with the Euro tour. Not sure how they expect people in the US to book off leave from work with that short notice. Wondering what the real reason is behind this delay? Is the band really that disorganised or is one (or more) of the band members being difficult about touring (obviously not EV who appears to have got tired with things and done his own album and tour!). All very odd0
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 At this point its gotta be all music industry related tour contract/marketing holdups.drfox said:Completely crazy not announcing the tour dates. Feel lucky here with the Euro tour. Not sure how they expect people in the US to book off leave from work with that short notice. Wondering what the real reason is behind this delay? Is the band really that disorganised or is one (or more) of the band members being difficult about touring (obviously not EV who appears to have got tired with things and done his own album and tour!). All very odd
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            Sea Hear Now part 2? The festival is ending its early bird pricing on Friday which means the lineup should follow very shortly after that. Which might be around when we get a Pearl Jam announcement…..1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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 Foo Fighters have done about 7 world tours in the past year.. tough to think it’s an industry, marketing, insurance etc issue at this pointjohnny__utah said:At this point its gotta be all music industry related tour contract/marketing holdups.0
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 was thinking that too, but other than announcement dates potentially lining up, I haven’t heard any rumblings this time around. Felt like I knew well before the announcement in 2020.on2legs said:Sea Hear Now part 2? The festival is ending its early bird pricing on Friday which means the lineup should follow very shortly after that. Which might be around when we get a Pearl Jam announcement…..I’ll go to festival either way, but would be a lot cooler with my favorites there.can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?0
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            No MLB games = Pearl Jam residency at Fenway Park this summer. Book it.0
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 The Roller Derby teambbiggs said:
 Who? I kid.Weston1283 said:my Guardians were destined for empty stadiums all season lockout or not lol0
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 It’s entirely on the owners. They literally locked out their labor force.apirk72 said:
 C'mon it is the ownership that is the problem. Ask any fan that has been through a rebuild, prices don't go down because payroll goes down. People love to take it out on the players because there is a good chance that at one point in their lives they wanted to be one so they feel they don't appreciate what they have, no one dreams of being an owner because it is so unattainable. This lockout is almost all on the owners.jimjam1982 said:
 Talk about players bailing on their fans so they could drive tickets up to $150 for bleacher seats so they could 600m contracts instead of 400m and oh BTW fully guaranteed even if they suck.JimmyV said:
 Talk about organizations alienating their fanbase.mattcoz said:All of my current rage is directed towards MLB, I have none left for this.
 Is it the 10c organization or is it the band? The band are the players here. Redirect your energy to them. 10c just follows orders.0
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            Back on topic, I gave up and got a refund for my SD tix. Just too much time and uncertainty if I could even make the rescheduled dates (I live in Chicago). Got the funds back on my credit card today. Seen 60+ shows since '94 but enough is enough.
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 100% the owners fault my guyjimjam1982 said:
 Talk about players bailing on their fans so they could drive tickets up to $150 for bleacher seats so they could 600m contracts instead of 400m and oh BTW fully guaranteed even if they suck.JimmyV said:
 Talk about organizations alienating their fanbase.mattcoz said:All of my current rage is directed towards MLB, I have none left for this.
 Is it the 10c organization or is it the band? The band are the players here. Redirect your energy to them. 10c just follows orders.0
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 More like 20-30 people on these forumsFranklin Delano Bluth said:
 Bingo! It’s not that hard. The lack of transparency is alienating a large portion of their fans. It’ll be interesting to see what the demand will be for these makeup dates.mpedone said:estarr31 said:
 Agreed and that's why it's not the band just being lazy with an announcement. They sent out the update in early November right before Omicron hit and somewhat upended things for two months. Thankfully that has subsided but it had to be a factor with the insurance coverage and commitments needed. They likely had a plan, were thrown a curveball again and had to reassess. The tour is happening in 2022 they just have to figure out when.pjhawks said:while yes March is still early 2022 I don't think any reasonable person thought it would be into March before an announcement.
 Maybe they should tell their fans that.www.cluthelee.com0
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            Is there anything official that says when you have to request a refund by for the postponed NA shows? I looked at my TM email and PJ FAQ and see no deadline.If the deadline is 3/2/22 as someone mentioned earlier this could be before the tour announcement. I would hope any announcement would extend the timeline for requesting refunds. Seems odd that they could change dates and a nice reward for all those waiting people is that they can’t request a refund if the new dates don’t work.0
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            40 new posts and zero new rumours. Who has two thumbs and feels gutted? THIS GUY!!!!!I could use some sunshine and rainbows right about now.1996.....Toronto
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 Most solid rumors are Green Day and My Morning Jacket as headlinerson2legs said:Sea Hear Now part 2? The festival is ending its early bird pricing on Friday which means the lineup should follow very shortly after that. Which might be around when we get a Pearl Jam announcement…..0
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 The lack of leaks and credible rumors this close to what we think is an imminent announcement is very strange.D-Rod said:40 new posts and zero new rumours. Who has two thumbs and feels gutted? THIS GUY!!!!!I could use some sunshine and rainbows right about now.___________________________________________
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 Whenever a concert changes dates you can request a refund. Not sure why people are hung up on the current window.bootlegger10 said:Is there anything official that says when you have to request a refund by for the postponed NA shows? I looked at my TM email and PJ FAQ and see no deadline.If the deadline is 3/2/22 as someone mentioned earlier this could be before the tour announcement. I would hope any announcement would extend the timeline for requesting refunds. Seems odd that they could change dates and a nice reward for all those waiting people is that they can’t request a refund if the new dates don’t work.DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220
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            biz999 said:
 The Roller Derby teambbiggs said:
 Who? I kid.Weston1283 said:my Guardians were destined for empty stadiums all season lockout or not lol
 This thread turning into Guardians satire is the epitome of my spring so far.
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