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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    edited March 2022
    Kevinman said:
    What time does the Newsletter usually come out?  12pm central?

  • KevinmanKevinman Posts: 1,909
    PJNB said:
    Kevinman said:
    What time does the Newsletter usually come out?  12pm central?

    Thanks 
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  • DEGBTIDEGBTI Posts: 970
    just booked a hotel next to Wrigley, free cancellation so why not
  • ClapperClapper Posts: 208
    PillowPants said:

    the band plays stadium shows for the profit not the specialness - the first time at each was nice but that's over 

    This is the answer.  If a promoter like LiveNation says "Hi Band in their 50's with growing families, would you like X dollars to play 6 shows over 3 weekends or would you like the same amount of money to play 18 shows over 5 weeks?"  I think most are choosing the less work/travel option. 
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  • bobby dazzlersbobby dazzlers Posts: 2,020
    tschav said:

    Beauty!  :smiley:
    That I no longer give a fuck
    Who is wrong and who’s right
  • ChoskaChoska Posts: 123
    JimmyV said:
    uglybabo said:
    JimmyV said:
    I wouldn't worry yet about a list of ballpark dates that may be entirely fictional. 
    Yeah, I could see Camden as a Baltimore ‘replacement’ but Fenway/Wrigley again with all the other dates they’re playing seems like overkill. 

    The football stadium in Seattle is where it gets really suspect.  100,000+ tickets they would probably need a co-headliner. 
    I didn't even realize that was the football stadium in Seattle. I don't see that happening. 
    The sound at Lumen isn't great. The overhang over the upper deck bounces sound back towards the field. 
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  • bobby dazzlersbobby dazzlers Posts: 2,020
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    someone posted a few pages ago that their source told them the canadian dates would be early sept. I think it was:

    QC: Sept 1
    Ottawa: Sept 3
    Hamilton Sept 5
    Toronto Sept 7
    These dates would be great!  
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    Who is wrong and who’s right
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Posts: 3,023
    Clapper said:
    PillowPants said:

    the band plays stadium shows for the profit not the specialness - the first time at each was nice but that's over 

    This is the answer.  If a promoter like LiveNation says "Hi Band in their 50's with growing families, would you like X dollars to play 6 shows over 3 weekends or would you like the same amount of money to play 18 shows over 5 weeks?"  I think most are choosing the less work/travel option. 
    Exactly. And allowing twice as many fans the opportunity to get in the building. To PJ, it's a win win for themselves and fans. 

    They've pretty much sold out every stadium show they've played. I don't think they worry about fans complaining about sound and sight lines. 
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 23,270
    Cal says no Camden, but Sherlock says yes for Scotland. 
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  • Franklin Delano BluthFranklin Delano Bluth Posts: 534
    uglybabo said:
    JimmyV said:
    I wouldn't worry yet about a list of ballpark dates that may be entirely fictional. 
    Yeah, I could see Camden as a Baltimore ‘replacement’ but Fenway/Wrigley again with all the other dates they’re playing seems like overkill. 

    The football stadium in Seattle is where it gets really suspect.  100,000+ tickets they would probably need a co-headliner. 
    Easy. Motley Crue and Pearl Jam co-headliners 
  • tschavtschav Posts: 2,858
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    uglybabo said:
    JimmyV said:
    I wouldn't worry yet about a list of ballpark dates that may be entirely fictional. 
    Yeah, I could see Camden as a Baltimore ‘replacement’ but Fenway/Wrigley again with all the other dates they’re playing seems like overkill. 

    The football stadium in Seattle is where it gets really suspect.  100,000+ tickets they would probably need a co-headliner. 
    Easy. Motley Crue and Pearl Jam co-headliners 
    Stages on both ends of the field.
  • Franklin Delano BluthFranklin Delano Bluth Posts: 534
    tschav said:
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    uglybabo said:
    JimmyV said:
    I wouldn't worry yet about a list of ballpark dates that may be entirely fictional. 
    Yeah, I could see Camden as a Baltimore ‘replacement’ but Fenway/Wrigley again with all the other dates they’re playing seems like overkill. 

    The football stadium in Seattle is where it gets really suspect.  100,000+ tickets they would probably need a co-headliner. 
    Easy. Motley Crue and Pearl Jam co-headliners 
    Stages on both ends of the field.
    And a giant wall with wet paint on it at the 50 cause they’re both so boring 
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    tschav said:
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    uglybabo said:
    JimmyV said:
    I wouldn't worry yet about a list of ballpark dates that may be entirely fictional. 
    Yeah, I could see Camden as a Baltimore ‘replacement’ but Fenway/Wrigley again with all the other dates they’re playing seems like overkill. 

    The football stadium in Seattle is where it gets really suspect.  100,000+ tickets they would probably need a co-headliner. 
    Easy. Motley Crue and Pearl Jam co-headliners 
    Stages on both ends of the field.
    And a giant wall with wet paint on it at the 50 cause they’re both so boring 

  • YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Posts: 4,644
    I can't believe there's no comments in here since 12pm struck.
  • iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Posts: 3,412
    PJNB said:
    iwasatpj20 said:
    I wonder when the St Louis and Oklahoma City rescheduled dates would be?
    Going off of that Denver date I would say 18th and 20th if no other shows were added. Or after the 22nd which I doubt since Ohana is close. 
    That’s my guess too
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    2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
    2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
    2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)


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  • KevinmanKevinman Posts: 1,909
    YourDirtisMyfood said:
    I can't believe there's no comments in here since 12pm struck.
    Wrong time zone 
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  • DM282158DM282158 Posts: 546
    It couldn’t be as simple and logistical as them announcing the rescheduled dates in the newsletter/coinciding with newsletter, could it?
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  • wsimon74wsimon74 Posts: 505
    So Is the consensus dates released today or an “announcement coming soon” blurb in the newsletter? Just trying to figure out where to set my expectations lol
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    wsimon74 said:
    So Is the consensus dates released today or an “announcement coming soon” blurb in the newsletter? Just trying to figure out where to set my expectations lol

  • wsimon74wsimon74 Posts: 505
    PJNB said:
    wsimon74 said:
    So Is the consensus dates released today or an “announcement coming soon” blurb in the newsletter? Just trying to figure out where to set my expectations lol

    After Monday, that’s pretty much where I’ve parked any hopes and expectations.


  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,906
    DM282158 said:
    It couldn’t be as simple and logistical as them announcing the rescheduled dates in the newsletter/coinciding with newsletter, could it?
    very doubtful. look for an announcement in the newsletter of an upcoming announcement, with the tour dates to follow next monday or tuesday
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    wsimon74 said:
    PJNB said:
    wsimon74 said:
    So Is the consensus dates released today or an “announcement coming soon” blurb in the newsletter? Just trying to figure out where to set my expectations lol

    After Monday, that’s pretty much where I’ve parked any hopes and expectations.


    I still have PTSD after Monday. I just got over the Dirty Frank tease at Fenway too. Terrible timing. 
  • RK50065RK50065 Posts: 897
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DM282158 said:
    It couldn’t be as simple and logistical as them announcing the rescheduled dates in the newsletter/coinciding with newsletter, could it?
    very doubtful. look for an announcement in the newsletter of an upcoming announcement, with the tour dates to follow next monday or tuesday
    why we need an announcement for an upcoming announcement after we got the 'early 2022' announcement and 'in the coming days' email renewal announcement blows my mind.

    but it certainly won't surprise me if that's what happens.

  • LCLC Posts: 279
    The 'Wooden Jesus' tease at the 2nd show at Fenway in 2016 was tough too
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  • lmckenney24lmckenney24 Posts: 1,990
    RK50065 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DM282158 said:
    It couldn’t be as simple and logistical as them announcing the rescheduled dates in the newsletter/coinciding with newsletter, could it?
    very doubtful. look for an announcement in the newsletter of an upcoming announcement, with the tour dates to follow next monday or tuesday
    why we need an announcement for an upcoming announcement after we got the 'early 2022' announcement and 'in the coming days' email renewal announcement blows my mind.

    but it certainly won't surprise me if that's what happens.

    Exactly.
  • mpedonempedone Posts: 1,947
    RK50065 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DM282158 said:
    It couldn’t be as simple and logistical as them announcing the rescheduled dates in the newsletter/coinciding with newsletter, could it?
    very doubtful. look for an announcement in the newsletter of an upcoming announcement, with the tour dates to follow next monday or tuesday
    why we need an announcement for an upcoming announcement after we got the 'early 2022' announcement and 'in the coming days' email renewal announcement blows my mind.

    but it certainly won't surprise me if that's what happens.


    They sent an alert about a reminder that was a teaser of the hint about the announcement. It's all standard procedure.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 23,270
    Ok, to summarize we have a forthcoming announcement about a forthcoming announcement and Camden Yards? 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,906
    RK50065 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DM282158 said:
    It couldn’t be as simple and logistical as them announcing the rescheduled dates in the newsletter/coinciding with newsletter, could it?
    very doubtful. look for an announcement in the newsletter of an upcoming announcement, with the tour dates to follow next monday or tuesday
    why we need an announcement for an upcoming announcement after we got the 'early 2022' announcement and 'in the coming days' email renewal announcement blows my mind.

    but it certainly won't surprise me if that's what happens.

    I'm certainly no expert on how these things go, I just know they've never announced dates in the newsletter before, and all announcements typically happen on monday or tuesday (I think anyway). so I could be way off. 
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Posts: 7,792
    RK50065 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DM282158 said:
    It couldn’t be as simple and logistical as them announcing the rescheduled dates in the newsletter/coinciding with newsletter, could it?
    very doubtful. look for an announcement in the newsletter of an upcoming announcement, with the tour dates to follow next monday or tuesday
    why we need an announcement for an upcoming announcement after we got the 'early 2022' announcement and 'in the coming days' email renewal announcement blows my mind.

    but it certainly won't surprise me if that's what happens.

    Exactly. Get those memberships ready so you don’t miss out on tickets you bought 2 years ago! See you in 6 months!
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • theebradnesstheebradness Posts: 280
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