2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • Spoonman110
    Spoonman110 Winnipeg Posts: 356
    Evel K said:
    I used the venue open dates method and got all of them squeezed into May. Anyone want to see the list? Unverified, zero inside intel and purely speculative. 
    I love this stuff. Let’s see it. It gets the ball rolling. 

    Fargo, ND 6/15/03 Winnipeg, MB 9/8/05 St Paul, MN 6/27/06 Chicago, IL 8/5/07 East Troy, WI 9/3/11, 9/4/11 Winnipeg, MB 9/17/11 Chicago, IL 7/19/13 St Paul, MN 10/19/14 Miami, FL 04/09/16 Tampa, FL 04/11/16 Fenway 1 & 2 08/05/16, 08/07/16Wrigley 1 & 2 08/18/18, 08/20/18Oakland 1 & 2 05/12/22, 05/13/22

  • MakeUSmile
    MakeUSmile NJ Posts: 1,156
    from Glens Instagram post, it seems like he was pretty sick, but feeling better. 
    can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
  • Evel K
    Evel K Posts: 585
    May 2 -Toronto
             4 -Hamilton
             6 -Ottawa
             8 -Quebec City
            10- Apollo
            12- MSG
            14- Nashville
            16- St. Louis
            18- OKC
            20- Denver
            22- Phoenix
            24- San Diego
            26, 27 - LA
            29,30 - Oakland
    Things were different then
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,793
    Evel K said:
    May 2 -Toronto
             4 -Hamilton
             6 -Ottawa
             8 -Quebec City
            10- Apollo
            12- MSG
            14- Nashville
            16- St. Louis
            18- OKC
            20- Denver
            22- Phoenix
            24- San Diego
            26, 27 - LA
            29,30 - Oakland
    Looks well thought out.  Somehow I don't see them going 4 weeks without ever more than one day off between shows though.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,959
    I agree, seems pretty grueling for them these days, but then again if they play shorter setlists, maybe. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    I agree, seems pretty grueling for them these days, but then again if they play shorter setlists, maybe. 
    Gotta think the shorter sets are coming sadly. 
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,948
    KL159781 said:
    D-Rod said:
    Are they obligated to Covid testing or are they mandated too?   Regardless of the answer now it could be totally different in May.  
        We don’t rapid test for the flu.  And yes I know it’s completely different but eventually we will treat it as such. 
    It’s the unions behind this requiring daily testing of each performer and crew member. There is no just ignoring if someone is asymptomatic and carrying on as normal as suggested, until entire changes within the industry allow for it.
    They are just hurting themselves with this policy then.  Are any other industries still testing daily? Sports aren’t anymore 
  • Evel K
    Evel K Posts: 585
    RatherStarved said:
    Evel K said:
    May 2 -Toronto
             4 -Hamilton
             6 -Ottawa
             8 -Quebec City
            10- Apollo
            12- MSG
            14- Nashville
            16- St. Louis
            18- OKC
            20- Denver
            22- Phoenix
            24- San Diego
            26, 27 - LA
            29,30 - Oakland
    Looks well thought out.  Somehow I don't see them going 4 weeks without ever more than one day off between shows though.  
    Crazy as it seems, the only differences from the original plan was an extra day off after MSG and an extra day between OKC and Denver.
    Things were different then
  • Falling Down
    Falling Down Posts: 845
    PJNB said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    I agree, seems pretty grueling for them these days, but then again if they play shorter setlists, maybe. 
    Gotta think the shorter sets are coming sadly. 
    Shorter sets in terms of total time, yes, but not necessarily less songs. Just less extending into jams (sorry Boom), like they did in Ohana. Closer to studio versions. Let’s say 4 minutes on average per song. Fits easily 12 of them per hour with some time and chatter in between songs. If lucky between 25-27 songs. 
     

    Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
    Toronto 03, 06, 11
    Ottawa 05, 11
    Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
    Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
    Costa Rica 11
    London (Ont.), Hartford 13
    Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
    EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)

  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited February 2022
    Falling Down said:
    PJNB said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    I agree, seems pretty grueling for them these days, but then again if they play shorter setlists, maybe. 
    Gotta think the shorter sets are coming sadly. 
    Shorter sets in terms of total time, yes, but not necessarily less songs. Just less extending into jams (sorry Boom), like they did in Ohana. Closer to studio versions. Let’s say 4 minutes on average per song. Fits easily 12 of them per hour with some time and chatter in between songs. If lucky between 25-27 songs. 
     

    Extension of songs helps give Ed’s voice a break though and 25-27 songs a night for any other band would be great. For these guys that is a short set. 
  • YourDirtisMyfood
    YourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,668
    edited February 2022
    Evel K said:
    May 2 -Toronto
             4 -Hamilton
             6 -Ottawa
             8 -Quebec City
            10- Apollo
            12- MSG
            14- Nashville
            16- St. Louis
            18- OKC
            20- Denver
            22- Phoenix
            24- San Diego
            26, 27 - LA
            29,30 - Oakland
    If you look at the MSG calendar, there's already a musical act or some act for May 12th.  In fact, half of May already has listed acts so you can probably figure out what days PJ won't be playing at MSG in May.

    Edit:  Oh snap, that looks like a date for a different arena.

    https://www.msg.com/calendar?category=music


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  • Falling Down
    Falling Down Posts: 845
    PJNB said:
    Falling Down said:
    PJNB said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    I agree, seems pretty grueling for them these days, but then again if they play shorter setlists, maybe. 
    Gotta think the shorter sets are coming sadly. 
    Shorter sets in terms of total time, yes, but not necessarily less songs. Just less extending into jams (sorry Boom), like they did in Ohana. Closer to studio versions. Let’s say 4 minutes on average per song. Fits easily 12 of them per hour with some time and chatter in between songs. If lucky between 25-27 songs. 
     

    Extension of songs helps give Ed’s voice a break though and 25-27 songs a night for any other band would be great. For these guys that is a short set. 
    Agreed. Could all be solved with an extended Mankind played each night. 

    Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
    Toronto 03, 06, 11
    Ottawa 05, 11
    Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
    Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
    Costa Rica 11
    London (Ont.), Hartford 13
    Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
    EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)

  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Falling Down said:
    PJNB said:

    Falling Down said:
    PJNB said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    I agree, seems pretty grueling for them these days, but then again if they play shorter setlists, maybe. 
    Gotta think the shorter sets are coming sadly. 
    Shorter sets in terms of total time, yes, but not necessarily less songs. Just less extending into jams (sorry Boom), like they did in Ohana. Closer to studio versions. Let’s say 4 minutes on average per song. Fits easily 12 of them per hour with some time and chatter in between songs. If lucky between 25-27 songs. 
     

    Extension of songs helps give Ed’s voice a break though and 25-27 songs a night for any other band would be great. For these guys that is a short set. 
    Agreed. Could all be solved with an extended Mankind played each night. 
    Well they did play Sweet Lew at one of their last show lol. 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,793
    Evel K said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Evel K said:
    May 2 -Toronto
             4 -Hamilton
             6 -Ottawa
             8 -Quebec City
            10- Apollo
            12- MSG
            14- Nashville
            16- St. Louis
            18- OKC
            20- Denver
            22- Phoenix
            24- San Diego
            26, 27 - LA
            29,30 - Oakland
    Looks well thought out.  Somehow I don't see them going 4 weeks without ever more than one day off between shows though.  
    Crazy as it seems, the only differences from the original plan was an extra day off after MSG and an extra day between OKC and Denver.
    Fair point.  On the other hand they were two years younger not to mention however much extra aging we've all done since then.  And of course they never played the original schedule.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,361
    To the new-er speculators, have I got a thread for you lol

    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • hihobibo
    hihobibo Tampa, FL Posts: 1,140
    drakeheuer14 said:
    One thing is for sure - a lot less people will want to travel to shows with their travel plans seemingly always up in the air with postponements and cancellations around every corner 
     I know that I have 2 travel shows from 2020 and that I probably will drop the one. Cheap flight prices originally helped me choose the one show, and with the high possibility of a same day cancellation, I am unlikely to take that gamble. 
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,021
    hihobibo said:
    drakeheuer14 said:
    One thing is for sure - a lot less people will want to travel to shows with their travel plans seemingly always up in the air with postponements and cancellations around every corner 
     I know that I have 2 travel shows from 2020 and that I probably will drop the one. Cheap flight prices originally helped me choose the one show, and with the high possibility of a same day cancellation, I am unlikely to take that gamble. 
    Yeah.  I am willing to make that gamble for a few US shows I think, but I am definitely second guessing the two Europe shows I have planned after the postponed EV shows.  

    Flights for May are just about to be at peak buying time, so hopefully we finally hear something about these NA shows in the next couple of weeks.  
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    I am picking a city that if PJ cancels I will still have an amazing trip. No regrets either way and once the dates are announced I feel confident enough because of that to go all in without worrying about it. 
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,071
    PJNB said:
    I am picking a city that if PJ cancels I will still have an amazing trip. No regrets either way and once the dates are announced I feel confident enough because of that to go all in without worrying about it. 
    Same. If they cancel I’m still in Europe having a blast. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    PJNB said:
    I am picking a city that if PJ cancels I will still have an amazing trip. No regrets either way and once the dates are announced I feel confident enough because of that to go all in without worrying about it. 
    As if I wasn't having second thoughts about Tool in Cleveland next month already.  :/

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