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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,217
    mfc2006 said:
    Hospitals are filling up here as well.
    i read the MO attorney general is threatening cities that impose mask mandates. i played baseball with him in high school. he was an asshole then. i had no idea he would be this big of an asshole now. he is running for us senate next cycle. knowing MO voters they will elect him.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Merkin Baller said:
    Zod said:
    The part I struggle with is overwhelming hospitals.  Maybe it's more of an issue here in Canada as our health are system was already struggling before covid.

    Say Omicron is less lethal, but spreads faster.    For arguments say it's 1/2 as lethal.   But if it's 3x more contagious it would still put more pressure on hospitals that are already at capacity.   Lower percentage of people having complications, but more people overall due to big numbers getting infected.

    I've already met people or seen them pass away because the system is full, and treatments (for things like cancer) were delayed.  

    I'm not against the let it rip theory, but at the same time, you know it's going to overload hospitals, not because omicron is less mild, but because of how fast it can spread.

    I really don't want to be the person that gets a bad case of it and the hospital has no room for me :(

    Do the hospitals not know it's only a pandemic for the unvaccinated now?  /s
    I have no doubts that every area has it's own issues but here is a news story from Washington state saying that the hospitals are full but it isn't because of COVID. https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/hospitals-full-covid-patients-washington/281-9e983f35-579d-4ed2-8eba-99631977ab90

  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    JB16057 said:

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
    really? has nothing to do with right wing "news" and politicians constantly downplaying it? it's all because of perceived Dem hypocrisy?
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JB16057 said:

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
    really? has nothing to do with right wing "news" and politicians constantly downplaying it? it's all because of perceived Dem hypocrisy?
    Both parties have played their part. This is just another fine example.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JB16057 said:

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
    really? has nothing to do with right wing "news" and politicians constantly downplaying it? it's all because of perceived Dem hypocrisy?
    Both parties have played their part. This is just another fine example.
    Why is it hypocritical to remove the mandate if 100% of attendees/employees are vaccinated?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JB16057 said:

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
    really? has nothing to do with right wing "news" and politicians constantly downplaying it? it's all because of perceived Dem hypocrisy?
    Both parties have played their part. This is just another fine example.
    Why is it hypocritical to remove the mandate if 100% of attendees/employees are vaccinated?
    The fully vaccinated are still catching and spreading COVID. Not to mention, this is only in San Francisco. There are plenty of other cities that have offices and gyms with people that are 100% vaccinated so it isn't fair to those busineses outside of S.F.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JB16057 said:

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
    really? has nothing to do with right wing "news" and politicians constantly downplaying it? it's all because of perceived Dem hypocrisy?
    Both parties have played their part. This is just another fine example.
    Why is it hypocritical to remove the mandate if 100% of attendees/employees are vaccinated?
    The fully vaccinated are still catching and spreading COVID. Not to mention, this is only in San Francisco. There are plenty of other cities that have offices and gyms with people that are 100% vaccinated so it isn't fair to those busineses outside of S.F.
    So whatever one city council or mayor does, then all other cities in America must do, otherwise it's "not fair"?  You're kidding, right?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JB16057 said:

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
    really? has nothing to do with right wing "news" and politicians constantly downplaying it? it's all because of perceived Dem hypocrisy?
    Both parties have played their part. This is just another fine example.
    Why is it hypocritical to remove the mandate if 100% of attendees/employees are vaccinated?
    The fully vaccinated are still catching and spreading COVID. Not to mention, this is only in San Francisco. There are plenty of other cities that have offices and gyms with people that are 100% vaccinated so it isn't fair to those busineses outside of S.F.
    So whatever one city council or mayor does, then all other cities in America must do, otherwise it's "not fair"?  You're kidding, right?
    We are talking about California, not America as a whole. What I am talking about has nothing to do with city council or a mayor.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JB16057 said:

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
    really? has nothing to do with right wing "news" and politicians constantly downplaying it? it's all because of perceived Dem hypocrisy?
    Both parties have played their part. This is just another fine example.
    Why is it hypocritical to remove the mandate if 100% of attendees/employees are vaccinated?
    The fully vaccinated are still catching and spreading COVID. Not to mention, this is only in San Francisco. There are plenty of other cities that have offices and gyms with people that are 100% vaccinated so it isn't fair to those busineses outside of S.F.
    So whatever one city council or mayor does, then all other cities in America must do, otherwise it's "not fair"?  You're kidding, right?
    We are talking about California, not America as a whole. What I am talking about has nothing to do with city council or a mayor.
    Well it sounds like the rule allows some latitude.  Sounds like it's more common sense than not far.  
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JB16057 said:

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
    really? has nothing to do with right wing "news" and politicians constantly downplaying it? it's all because of perceived Dem hypocrisy?
    Both parties have played their part. This is just another fine example.
    Why is it hypocritical to remove the mandate if 100% of attendees/employees are vaccinated?
    The fully vaccinated are still catching and spreading COVID. Not to mention, this is only in San Francisco. There are plenty of other cities that have offices and gyms with people that are 100% vaccinated so it isn't fair to those busineses outside of S.F.
    So whatever one city council or mayor does, then all other cities in America must do, otherwise it's "not fair"?  You're kidding, right?
    We are talking about California, not America as a whole. What I am talking about has nothing to do with city council or a mayor.
    Well it sounds like the rule allows some latitude.  Sounds like it's more common sense than not far.  

    How is it common sense when the vaccinated are still catching and spreading COVID? Being 100% vaccinated doesn't mean you are safe. I know more people that have died from COVID while being full vaccinated than have died with COVID being non-vaccinated. Once again, that is only my personal experience but if this is truly a pandemic that we all need to take serious, everyone should be wearing masks indoors.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JB16057 said:

    This is the kind of thing why people don't take COVID serious anymore.
    really? has nothing to do with right wing "news" and politicians constantly downplaying it? it's all because of perceived Dem hypocrisy?
    Both parties have played their part. This is just another fine example.
    Why is it hypocritical to remove the mandate if 100% of attendees/employees are vaccinated?
    The fully vaccinated are still catching and spreading COVID. Not to mention, this is only in San Francisco. There are plenty of other cities that have offices and gyms with people that are 100% vaccinated so it isn't fair to those busineses outside of S.F.
    So whatever one city council or mayor does, then all other cities in America must do, otherwise it's "not fair"?  You're kidding, right?
    We are talking about California, not America as a whole. What I am talking about has nothing to do with city council or a mayor.
    Well it sounds like the rule allows some latitude.  Sounds like it's more common sense than not far.  

    How is it common sense when the vaccinated are still catching and spreading COVID? Being 100% vaccinated doesn't mean you are safe. I know more people that have died from COVID while being full vaccinated than have died with COVID being non-vaccinated. Once again, that is only my personal experience but if this is truly a pandemic that we all need to take serious, everyone should be wearing masks indoors.
    How many people do you know that have died?  And you are saying more of them were vaccinated than unvaxxed?  Unless the numbers are 2 and 1, I'm not quite buying this statement. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    me neither. even if anecdotal, that stat doesn't hold up in the greater population. so it's basically meaningless. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    My wife and I got our boosters today.  So far so good.  Fingers crossed.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,549
    mcgruff10 said:
    My wife and I got our boosters today.  So far so good.  Fingers crossed.  

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    https://www.cp24.com/news/feds-ask-canadians-to-avoid-travelling-internationally-1.5708657

    Feds ask Canadians to avoid travelling internationally


    Lol.   Yeah I’m sure people who got vacations booked south are giving them…nope.

    This reminds me of how when you download a new app on iPhone, it'll give you the option to "allow app to track," or "ask app not to track." In other words, the app is going to track you. 

    Me: Hey app, can you please not track me?
    App: Thanks for asking, but no, I'm going to track you. 
    No one is cancelling their vacations or holiday plans.  Why should they?  Especially if your fully vaxxed.  Lmfao.  Our federal government is incompetent.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Starting Monday anyone 18+ and 84 days out from their 2nd dose can get a booster.  If you had concert tickets, hockey tickets or tickets to events with capacity over 1000 these events are restricted to 50% capacity…so obviously some ticket holders will have their tickets 🎟  voided…
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,915
    My step  dad now pos. That means mum will be so my whole family in one go.


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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    Meltdown99 said:
    Starting Monday anyone 18+ and 84 days out from their 2nd dose can get a booster.  If you had concert tickets, hockey tickets or tickets to events with capacity over 1000 these events are restricted to 50% capacity…so obviously some ticket holders will have their tickets 🎟  voided…
    84 days out?  That is less than 3 months.  I thought it was previously recommended to wait at least 6 months from being fully vaccinated to get a booster.  Is there now scientific evidence that shows there is a benefit to cutting that timeline by more than half?  It is dizzying to try and keep up.

  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,915
    Its  3 months here now too.
    This  omicron is sooooo contagious  my family members barely saw eachother and all positive  except my unvaccinated  17 years old


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