Viruses / Vaccines

Spiritual_Chaos

regarding booster shots:

World Health Organization officials repeated their protests Tuesday against Covid-19 booster shots for the general public, even as the U.S. readies this week to authorize their distribution across a wide swath of America.

The WHO strongly opposes the widespread rollout of booster shots, asking that wealthier nations instead give extra doses to countries with minimal vaccination rates. The U.S. has already administered over 2 million third doses nationwide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and an advisory panel to the Food and Drug Administration unanimously recommended boosters on Friday for anyone 65 and older.

“What WHO is arguing is that booster doses in the general population, who had wide access to vaccines, who have already been vaccinated, is not the best bet right now,” Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, said during a live Q&A aired Tuesday on the organization’s social media channels.

Ryan reiterated the WHO’s support for third doses administered to the elderly, medically vulnerable people and anyone needing an immune system boost after a full Covid vaccine regimen. He reiterated the organization’s calls for a moratorium on booster shots through the end of the year to give nations enough time to immunize at least 40% of their populations against Covid.

WHO repeats warning against Covid booster shots for healthy people (cnbc.com)

josevolution

It’s been one week since my son started feeling symptoms! He’s double vaccinated but not the booster and the virus hit him pretty hard loss sense of smell & taste he is getting his energy levels back. But still this virus is brutal and me I don’t have any symptoms even though I was directly exposed to him last Thursday..

brianlux

josevolution said:

It’s been one week since my son started feeling symptoms! He’s double vaccinated but not the booster and the virus hit him pretty hard loss sense of smell & taste he is getting his energy levels back. But still this virus is brutal and me I don’t have any symptoms even though I was directly exposed to him last Thursday..

Best wishes for your son, J,  And I hope you stay well!

lastexitlondon

Typical  now i had  an mrna booster and have had chest pains for a week.  now loads of shit everywhere about heart problems.  Not what a guy like me can handle

brianlux

lastexitlondon said:

Typical  now i had  an mrna booster and have had chest pains for a week.  now loads of shit everywhere about heart problems.  Not what a guy like me can handle

Damn, Rob, that's not good- I'm sorry to hear that.  Have the chest pains been diagnosed as heart issues?  If not, maybe it's tension or stress.  I thought I had heart issues a few years back and went to see a cardiologist and he said it was stress, not heart.  Not that stress is good, but it would be better for you than heart disease if that turns out to be the case.  Hoping for the best for you, good man.

These booster can be nasty.  I had the Moderna booster Tuesday and although I'm functioning OK, I feel totally like crap.  Last night I could only sleep 3 hours. 

Hang in there, buddy!

HughFreakingDillon

lastexitlondon said:

Typical  now i had  an mrna booster and have had chest pains for a week.  now loads of shit everywhere about heart problems.  Not what a guy like me can handle

I hear ya. my mind works the same. hell, I was having chest pains just yesterday. but remember, if you can feel the pain with your finger when pressing on your ribs, it's not the heart. it's anxiety. and also, legit heart problem pain gets progressively worse; it doesn't stay the same. so if you've had it for a week, it's just your anxiety, not your heart. 

lastexitlondon

I had  ecg all normal but its eating me up . With this all over the news atm how these vaccines look to damage the heart  at an alarming rate. I dont  know whats real anymore

Nami

Spiritual_Chaos said:

regarding booster shots:

World Health Organization officials repeated their protests Tuesday against Covid-19 booster shots for the general public, even as the U.S. readies this week to authorize their distribution across a wide swath of America.

The WHO strongly opposes the widespread rollout of booster shots, asking that wealthier nations instead give extra doses to countries with minimal vaccination rates. The U.S. has already administered over 2 million third doses nationwide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and an advisory panel to the Food and Drug Administration unanimously recommended boosters on Friday for anyone 65 and older.

“What WHO is arguing is that booster doses in the general population, who had wide access to vaccines, who have already been vaccinated, is not the best bet right now,” Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, said during a live Q&A aired Tuesday on the organization’s social media channels.

Ryan reiterated the WHO’s support for third doses administered to the elderly, medically vulnerable people and anyone needing an immune system boost after a full Covid vaccine regimen. He reiterated the organization’s calls for a moratorium on booster shots through the end of the year to give nations enough time to immunize at least 40% of their populations against Covid.

WHO repeats warning against Covid booster shots for healthy people (cnbc.com)

Been watching Dr John Campbell on Yt, he brought this up as well.   Suggest watching his posts

Meltdown99

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-25/who-meets-on-new-covid-19-variant-circulating-in-south-africa

New Coronavirus Variant a ‘Serious Concern’ in South Africa

lastexitlondon

Nami said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

regarding booster shots:

World Health Organization officials repeated their protests Tuesday against Covid-19 booster shots for the general public, even as the U.S. readies this week to authorize their distribution across a wide swath of America.

The WHO strongly opposes the widespread rollout of booster shots, asking that wealthier nations instead give extra doses to countries with minimal vaccination rates. The U.S. has already administered over 2 million third doses nationwide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and an advisory panel to the Food and Drug Administration unanimously recommended boosters on Friday for anyone 65 and older.

“What WHO is arguing is that booster doses in the general population, who had wide access to vaccines, who have already been vaccinated, is not the best bet right now,” Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, said during a live Q&A aired Tuesday on the organization’s social media channels.

Ryan reiterated the WHO’s support for third doses administered to the elderly, medically vulnerable people and anyone needing an immune system boost after a full Covid vaccine regimen. He reiterated the organization’s calls for a moratorium on booster shots through the end of the year to give nations enough time to immunize at least 40% of their populations against Covid.

WHO repeats warning against Covid booster shots for healthy people (cnbc.com)

Been watching Dr John Campbell on Yt, he brought this up as well.   Suggest watching his posts

I watch dr.john also. Good man

Meltdown99

Canada is closing its border to 7 southern African countries…

nicknyr15

So is this new strain really that bad? Biden hasn’t issued a travel ban named on advice from Fauci? Why delay it until Monday? Is this true?

HughFreakingDillon

nicknyr15 said:

So is this new strain really that bad? Biden hasn’t issued a travel ban named on advice from Fauci? Why delay it until Monday? Is this true?

all we know so far (that (I've read) is that is MAY be more transmissible than Delta, but I don't think there's any data yet on how bad it is re: illness and death. 

Spunkie

^ I read that because of the many and new spike mutations, the fear is that it escapes the vaccinations we have, along with increased transmission.

The good is news is the mRNAs can be tweaked quite quickly. The bad part is is this happened because people are taking 2nd shots, boosters, and we didn't share equitably with Africa etc... 

So rinse and repeat.

Edit: for accuracy 

Spunkie

oftenreading

tish said:

^ I read that because of the many and new spike mutations, the fear is that it escapes the vaccinations we have, along with increased transmission.

The good is news is the mRNAs can be tweaked quite quickly. The bad part is is this happened because people are taking 2nd shots, boosters, and we didn't share equitably with Africa etc... 

So rinse and repeat.

Edit: for accuracy 

We (the wealthy nations) are reaping what we sowed by being greedy and not sharing vaccines equally. 

Spunkie

Yeah, also, the last major VOC, delta, was a 2020 strain so at least it took a long time for this puppy to pop up. 1.5 years between nasty stains is a good start. 👍 

RunIntoTheRain

Andy Slavitt, former White House advisor for Covid response had this to say about the new variant. (unrolled twitter thread)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1464257879590912006.html

Worth the read.

mickeyrat

RunIntoTheRain said:

Andy Slavitt, former White House advisor for Covid response had this to say about the new variant. (unrolled twitter thread)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1464257879590912006.html

Worth the read.

very well written. expresses cause for concern in a calm sober way.

Spunkie

^ great perspective and insight on learned response to catch phrases as well as further punishing reporting countries we fucked over. Not much new info for me other than the 100 days required to sparkle up mRNAs