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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,528
    Here’s a good summary of the SF school board recall. Granted, it’s from Mother Jones, but it gets to the main points/reasons for the recall without being politically partisan. Basically, the recall came down to incompetence:

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/san-francisco-school-board-recall/
  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    Nah. It seems to me this is parents pissed other things seemed to be a priority than their kids. It should be seen as quite the gauntlet being thrown to put the focus where it belongs as #1 and the rest as can be fit in.
    School renaming rather than focus on kids would do it.

    The article touched on actually voting Republican though?  That is a huge flip for that area.

    California is the one place where the voters are recalling officials.  You hear that about this more than anywhere else.

    I dont see where it touched on voting gop, rather that it would be hailed by gop circles......
    There was this.  

    The successful effort in one of the country's most liberal cities is likely to embolden Republicans who have channeled parental anger over school reopenings and mask mandates into a powerful wedge issue, including last fall in Virginia. For Democrats, especially those making decisions in blue states, the vote highlighted internal divisions over how to handle the pandemic as cases decline but the threat of another surge looms.



  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,651
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,296
    Here’s a good summary of the SF school board recall. Granted, it’s from Mother Jones, but it gets to the main points/reasons for the recall without being politically partisan. Basically, the recall came down to incompetence:

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/san-francisco-school-board-recall/

    wow.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    Nah. It seems to me this is parents pissed other things seemed to be a priority than their kids. It should be seen as quite the gauntlet being thrown to put the focus where it belongs as #1 and the rest as can be fit in.
    School renaming rather than focus on kids would do it.

    The article touched on actually voting Republican though?  That is a huge flip for that area.

    California is the one place where the voters are recalling officials.  You hear that about this more than anywhere else.

    I dont see where it touched on voting gop, rather that it would be hailed by gop circles......
    Another Pyrrhic victory.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,385
    brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    Did someone say Frisco?

    Frisco, co - Google Search
  • Here’s a good summary of the SF school board recall. Granted, it’s from Mother Jones, but it gets to the main points/reasons for the recall without being politically partisan. Basically, the recall came down to incompetence:

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/san-francisco-school-board-recall/
    That article was way better than the CNN one that is for sure.  Thanks for posting.  The segue article that can be put here wasthe one about the Murals.  That was a fascinating read.

    It appears that people aren't sure what to be offended by and if removing them which shows actual history, would do more harm.

    https://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/dont-whitewash-history/
  • brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    HA!  Like people in Louisiana don't say Crawdads.  That is reserved for Texans apparently.  Mudbugs?  Well that appears to be a Mississippi thing.
  • dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    Nah. It seems to me this is parents pissed other things seemed to be a priority than their kids. It should be seen as quite the gauntlet being thrown to put the focus where it belongs as #1 and the rest as can be fit in.
    School renaming rather than focus on kids would do it.

    The article touched on actually voting Republican though?  That is a huge flip for that area.

    California is the one place where the voters are recalling officials.  You hear that about this more than anywhere else.

    I dont see where it touched on voting gop, rather that it would be hailed by gop circles......
    Another Pyrrhic victory.
    If you read the article that Jerparker posted it's not really.
  • brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    Did someone say Frisco?

    Frisco, co - Google Search
    The Dam Road, Swan Mountain Road, Buffalo Mountain, Spacin' at the Basin, The O.D.I., The Mole Hole, The Crib, Snake River Saloon, Peak 7, The Allys, East/West Walls, Montezuma, Ski Tip Lodge, etc. Did someone say Summit County?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,651
    brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    HA!  Like people in Louisiana don't say Crawdads.  That is reserved for Texans apparently.  Mudbugs?  Well that appears to be a Mississippi thing.

    It may well be because my relationship to San Francisco goes back 7 decades, but I honestly do cringe when I hear "Frisco".  There has been a long standing (but maybe weakening these days?) loyalty by those of us with long-time connections to San Francisco to such a degree that calling it "Frisco" was seen as being nearly as derogatory as using a racial slur for a person of color.  We have a connection with the city the way someone might connect with a loved one.  Those days are waning some as the city transforms and I really do miss my home city of old.  Sadly, all things must pass.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,319
    brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    I grew up in San Jose, I cringe when I hear it called Frisco. It's The City!! 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,651
    brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    I grew up in San Jose, I cringe when I hear it called Frisco. It's The City!! 

    Now we're talking!
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  • brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    HA!  Like people in Louisiana don't say Crawdads.  That is reserved for Texans apparently.  Mudbugs?  Well that appears to be a Mississippi thing.

    It may well be because my relationship to San Francisco goes back 7 decades, but I honestly do cringe when I hear "Frisco".  There has been a long standing (but maybe weakening these days?) loyalty by those of us with long-time connections to San Francisco to such a degree that calling it "Frisco" was seen as being nearly as derogatory as using a racial slur for a person of color.  We have a connection with the city the way someone might connect with a loved one.  Those days are waning some as the city transforms and I really do miss my home city of old.  Sadly, all things must pass.
    When I lived in Cali we called it Frisco.  Mind you we were in Socal so we didn't know any better.  We heard it refer to it as the Bay area too.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,651
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    HA!  Like people in Louisiana don't say Crawdads.  That is reserved for Texans apparently.  Mudbugs?  Well that appears to be a Mississippi thing.

    It may well be because my relationship to San Francisco goes back 7 decades, but I honestly do cringe when I hear "Frisco".  There has been a long standing (but maybe weakening these days?) loyalty by those of us with long-time connections to San Francisco to such a degree that calling it "Frisco" was seen as being nearly as derogatory as using a racial slur for a person of color.  We have a connection with the city the way someone might connect with a loved one.  Those days are waning some as the city transforms and I really do miss my home city of old.  Sadly, all things must pass.
    When I lived in Cali we called it Frisco.  Mind you we were in Socal so we didn't know any better.  We heard it refer to it as the Bay area too.

    I wonder how much of that was from that silly SF/LA rivalry?  In baseball, well, that was inevitable.  But in the music scene, there were strong ties.  The Bay Area gave birth to  The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, and Quicksilver Messenger Service.  Southern California brought us The Doors, The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield.  We loved them all!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    HA!  Like people in Louisiana don't say Crawdads.  That is reserved for Texans apparently.  Mudbugs?  Well that appears to be a Mississippi thing.

    It may well be because my relationship to San Francisco goes back 7 decades, but I honestly do cringe when I hear "Frisco".  There has been a long standing (but maybe weakening these days?) loyalty by those of us with long-time connections to San Francisco to such a degree that calling it "Frisco" was seen as being nearly as derogatory as using a racial slur for a person of color.  We have a connection with the city the way someone might connect with a loved one.  Those days are waning some as the city transforms and I really do miss my home city of old.  Sadly, all things must pass.
    When I lived in Cali we called it Frisco.  Mind you we were in Socal so we didn't know any better.  We heard it refer to it as the Bay area too.

    I wonder how much of that was from that silly SF/LA rivalry?  In baseball, well, that was inevitable.  But in the music scene, there were strong ties.  The Bay Area gave birth to  The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, and Quicksilver Messenger Service.  Southern California brought us The Doors, The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield.  We loved them all!
    Don't forget Metallica, Dead Kennedys, Operation Ivy and Rancid.

    We also gave you Offspring, Sublime, Save Ferris, No Doubt, Kyuss, Face to Face.  
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,319
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    HA!  Like people in Louisiana don't say Crawdads.  That is reserved for Texans apparently.  Mudbugs?  Well that appears to be a Mississippi thing.

    It may well be because my relationship to San Francisco goes back 7 decades, but I honestly do cringe when I hear "Frisco".  There has been a long standing (but maybe weakening these days?) loyalty by those of us with long-time connections to San Francisco to such a degree that calling it "Frisco" was seen as being nearly as derogatory as using a racial slur for a person of color.  We have a connection with the city the way someone might connect with a loved one.  Those days are waning some as the city transforms and I really do miss my home city of old.  Sadly, all things must pass.
    When I lived in Cali we called it Frisco.  Mind you we were in Socal so we didn't know any better.  We heard it refer to it as the Bay area too.

    I wonder how much of that was from that silly SF/LA rivalry?  In baseball, well, that was inevitable.  But in the music scene, there were strong ties.  The Bay Area gave birth to  The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, and Quicksilver Messenger Service.  Southern California brought us The Doors, The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield.  We loved them all!
    Silly? Long before Trump was trying to make Mexico pay for a wall, we were calling for a wall South of Monterey and Fresno!  :D Maybe a moat too!  :p
  • Here’s a good summary of the SF school board recall. Granted, it’s from Mother Jones, but it gets to the main points/reasons for the recall without being politically partisan. Basically, the recall came down to incompetence:

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/san-francisco-school-board-recall/
    That article was way better than the CNN one that is for sure.  Thanks for posting.  The segue article that can be put here wasthe one about the Murals.  That was a fascinating read.

    It appears that people aren't sure what to be offended by and if removing them which shows actual history, would do more harm.

    https://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/dont-whitewash-history/
    We are done w wokeness I guess?  This was a really good article.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,651
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/16/politics/san-francisco-school-board-members-recall-election/index.html

    This might not be the perfect place for this but not sure where else to put it.

    Could San Francisco really head back into Rep hands?  The people have had enough it seems about everything and just want to vote opposite?

    I don't think we have anyone here in the AMT that lives in Frisco do we?

    I used to but...
    Don39t Call It Frisco by Herb Caen

    :lol: 

    HA!  Like people in Louisiana don't say Crawdads.  That is reserved for Texans apparently.  Mudbugs?  Well that appears to be a Mississippi thing.

    It may well be because my relationship to San Francisco goes back 7 decades, but I honestly do cringe when I hear "Frisco".  There has been a long standing (but maybe weakening these days?) loyalty by those of us with long-time connections to San Francisco to such a degree that calling it "Frisco" was seen as being nearly as derogatory as using a racial slur for a person of color.  We have a connection with the city the way someone might connect with a loved one.  Those days are waning some as the city transforms and I really do miss my home city of old.  Sadly, all things must pass.
    When I lived in Cali we called it Frisco.  Mind you we were in Socal so we didn't know any better.  We heard it refer to it as the Bay area too.

    I wonder how much of that was from that silly SF/LA rivalry?  In baseball, well, that was inevitable.  But in the music scene, there were strong ties.  The Bay Area gave birth to  The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, and Quicksilver Messenger Service.  Southern California brought us The Doors, The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield.  We loved them all!
    Silly? Long before Trump was trying to make Mexico pay for a wall, we were calling for a wall South of Monterey and Fresno!  :D Maybe a moat too!  :p

    Love it, haha!
    Well then....
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,296
    Here’s a good summary of the SF school board recall. Granted, it’s from Mother Jones, but it gets to the main points/reasons for the recall without being politically partisan. Basically, the recall came down to incompetence:

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/san-francisco-school-board-recall/
    That article was way better than the CNN one that is for sure.  Thanks for posting.  The segue article that can be put here wasthe one about the Murals.  That was a fascinating read.

    It appears that people aren't sure what to be offended by and if removing them which shows actual history, would do more harm.

    https://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/dont-whitewash-history/
    We are done w wokeness I guess?  This was a really good article.

    as usual here, it took a detour with the frisco business, which you also participated in.

    so much of this idea of woke seems rooted in emotional reactionism.

    For sure, many things need addressed. It would help if there was consensus on how that occurs.

    understanding where a thing comes from and its motivation should be taken into account.

    the above is a well written argument to that end.
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