Cancelled!

tempo_n_groove

Expect the Jeep Cherokee to possibly be cancelled soon.

FiveBelow

They/them.

https://apnews.com/article/mr-potato-head-goes-gender-neutral-d3c178f2b9b0c424ed814657be41a9d8

hedonist

FiveBelow said:

They/them.

https://apnews.com/article/mr-potato-head-goes-gender-neutral-d3c178f2b9b0c424ed814657be41a9d8

I adored my old Mr. P. Just isn’t the same!

HughFreakingDillon

i guess they're going to have to dub over the voice of Don Rickles in the Toy Story movies now

Hobbes

No more potato sack?

hedonist

Hobbes said:

No more potato sack?

The Evenbros you referenced in another thread (good one, by the way!) shall now be referred to as Evenpeople. 

Halifax2TheMax

hedonist said:

Hobbes said:

No more potato sack?

The Evenbros you referenced in another thread (good one, by the way!) shall now be referred to as Evenpeople. 

#EverydayEvenPeople?

hedonist

Halifax2TheMax said:

hedonist said:

Hobbes said:

No more potato sack?

The Evenbros you referenced in another thread (good one, by the way!) shall now be referred to as Evenpeople. 

#EverydayEvenPeople?

“Hey y’all, prepare yourself for the rubberband person...”

Ledbetterman10

This is what "cancel culture" is to me. it's not "cancel culture" when morons like Trump are thrown of social media, or Gina Carano is taken out of Star Wars. But I think art being removed or discontinued is different. Not that I personally give a shit about the works of Dr. Seuss. But what's next? Will The Godfather be considered "problematic" due to it's portrayal of Italian-Americans? Is the crying Indian gag in Wayne's World too insensitive to Native Americans? Will satires like Blazing Saddles still be okay?

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1366733556307922946?s=20

Merkin Baller

Yup.... everyone keep looking over here: 

Meanwhile:

Ledbetterman10

^^^Meanwhile, just a reminder that there are an estimated 20,000 people human trafficked in the United States. Anyone half as concerned about human trafficking as the right to vote? 

The Juggler

This Dr Seuss thing is so fucking stupid. Makes you understand why some on the way right hate this stuff.

I don't understand the comparison between human trafficing and the right to vote though? Give as many people as possible the right to vote, and hopefully they'll elect the right people to solve those problems. 

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

This Dr Seuss thing is so fucking stupid. Makes you understand why some on the way right hate this stuff.

I don't understand the comparison between human trafficing and the right to vote though? Give as many people as possible the right to vote, and hopefully they'll elect the right people to solve those problems. 

Well I posted the Dr. Seuss thing because it seemed to fit this thread. Merkin Baller posted a tweet that has nothing to do with Dr. Seuss, but was  basically "This (voting rights) is more important than Dr Seuss" (which I do think voting rights are more important). But since he completely changed the subject, I did the same. There's always something more pressing that what's being talked about. But that's why there's different topics on message boards. If someone was complaining about the Phillies bullpen in the Phillies thread, I wouldn't be like "But what about voting rights? Voting rights are more important than baseball."

Merkin Baller

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

This Dr Seuss thing is so fucking stupid. Makes you understand why some on the way right hate this stuff.

I don't understand the comparison between human trafficing and the right to vote though? Give as many people as possible the right to vote, and hopefully they'll elect the right people to solve those problems. 

Well I posted the Dr. Seuss thing because it seemed to fit this thread. Merkin Baller posted a tweet that has nothing to do with Dr. Seuss, but was  basically "This (voting rights) is more important than Dr Seuss" (which I do think voting rights are more important). But since he completely changed the subject, I did the same. There's always something more pressing that what's being talked about. But that's why there's different topics on message boards. If someone was complaining about the Phillies bullpen in the Phillies thread, I wouldn't be like "But what about voting rights? Voting rights are more important than baseball."

Except my point is relevant for this thread: The people screaming loudest about cancel culture are the ones trying to take away American votes. The cpac’s theme was cancel culture & its threat to our society, meanwhile:  

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/arizona-gop-lawmaker-introduces-bill-give-legislature-power-toss-out-n1256097

The Juggler

Merkin Baller said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

This Dr Seuss thing is so fucking stupid. Makes you understand why some on the way right hate this stuff.

I don't understand the comparison between human trafficing and the right to vote though? Give as many people as possible the right to vote, and hopefully they'll elect the right people to solve those problems. 

Well I posted the Dr. Seuss thing because it seemed to fit this thread. Merkin Baller posted a tweet that has nothing to do with Dr. Seuss, but was  basically "This (voting rights) is more important than Dr Seuss" (which I do think voting rights are more important). But since he completely changed the subject, I did the same. There's always something more pressing that what's being talked about. But that's why there's different topics on message boards. If someone was complaining about the Phillies bullpen in the Phillies thread, I wouldn't be like "But what about voting rights? Voting rights are more important than baseball."

Except my point is relevant for this thread: The people screaming loudest about cancel culture are the ones trying to take away American votes. The cpac’s theme was cancel culture & its threat to our society, meanwhile:  

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/arizona-gop-lawmaker-introduces-bill-give-legislature-power-toss-out-n1256097

Agreed. Cancel Culture is literally the thing the right cares about most, which is an escalation of their dumb culture wars which forced me out of the party 15 years ago. 

But, yeah...this Seuss thing is bullshit though. 

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

This Dr Seuss thing is so fucking stupid. Makes you understand why some on the way right hate this stuff.

I don't understand the comparison between human trafficing and the right to vote though? Give as many people as possible the right to vote, and hopefully they'll elect the right people to solve those problems. 

Well I posted the Dr. Seuss thing because it seemed to fit this thread. Merkin Baller posted a tweet that has nothing to do with Dr. Seuss, but was  basically "This (voting rights) is more important than Dr Seuss" (which I do think voting rights are more important). But since he completely changed the subject, I did the same. There's always something more pressing that what's being talked about. But that's why there's different topics on message boards. If someone was complaining about the Phillies bullpen in the Phillies thread, I wouldn't be like "But what about voting rights? Voting rights are more important than baseball."

Except my point is relevant for this thread: The people screaming loudest about cancel culture are the ones trying to take away American votes. The cpac’s theme was cancel culture & its threat to our society, meanwhile:  

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/arizona-gop-lawmaker-introduces-bill-give-legislature-power-toss-out-n1256097

Agreed. Cancel Culture is literally the thing the right cares about most, which is an escalation of their dumb culture wars which forced me out of the party 15 years ago. 

But, yeah...this Seuss thing is bullshit though. 

Yeah I see what you're both saying. I said in my post that "cancelling" Trump or Gina Carano or whatever isn't what I consider cancel culture. To me, it's the censoring of ideas or art. But yeah, the right has co-opted the phrase as some sort of attack on them. So I see the hypocrisy of the GOP crying about it while suppressing votes. But if you take away how politicians are using the term and just focus on specific instances....censoring Dr. Seuss? Disney Plus putting a disclaimer in front of "offensive" episodes of the Muppet Show? Regarding that, Seth McFarlane said...

https://twitter.com/SethMacFarlane/status/1363623437466431488?s=20

Forget getting through to the far right. Those of us in the middle who don't like either party are turned off by this sort of stuff. Hell, there's probably far-left folks who roll their eyes at this sort of thing. 

hedonist

The right, the left, the middle, oh my!

Erasing something doesn’t make it go *poof*. Apply common sense and compassion, and fuck everyone else - the sensitive, the overly sensitive, the numb. Harsh? Perhaps...

Also, I wonder if those books could be used as a learning tool rather than pulling them altogether. Explain to the younger ones about stereotypes, outdated schools of thought and action, etc. 

Merkin Baller

hedonist said:

The right, the left, the middle, oh my!

Erasing something doesn’t make it go *poof*. Apply common sense and compassion, and fuck everyone else - the sensitive, the overly sensitive, the numb. Harsh? Perhaps...

Also, I wonder if those books could be used as a learning tool rather than pulling them altogether. Explain to the younger ones about stereotypes, outdated schools of thought and action, etc. 

I don’t disagree, but not publishing 6 books moving forward doesn’t equate to pulling or canceling something, at least not IMO. Last I checked no one was banning Dr Seuss books. & the Mr Potato Head outcry was absurd... the existence of a gender neutral toy shouldn’t threaten anyone’s way of life. 

I agree the mob mentality in our society sucks, and I definitely don’t deny its existence. I couldn’t care less about the bachelor, but I think it’s dumb for that guy to lose his job over some boneheaded statements. 

I just don’t think “cancel culture” is the problem that yes, The Right is making it out to be, at least not compared to some of the other issues currently plaguing our nation.

Regarding your last comment, it’s already done that for me... this morning alone I read up a bit Dr Seuss’s history of political cartoons, and it’s an interesting one. I implore all to do some research on it. 

I don’t agree w/ censorship, but OTOH, it’s not unreasonable to look at some art & decide it isn’t really relevant for modern day (if not outright offensive & racist).

oftenreading

One big thing that is being missed here is that the decision was made by the organization that promotes and protects Geisel‘s estate, not an outside body. Is it really “cancelling” if the artists themselves or their estate makes the decision to withdraw works or cease publication? Why shouldn’t people be allowed to cease production or publication of works they own, if they don’t think they are relevant or appropriate any longer? 

tbergs

Merkin Baller said:

hedonist said:

The right, the left, the middle, oh my!

Erasing something doesn’t make it go *poof*. Apply common sense and compassion, and fuck everyone else - the sensitive, the overly sensitive, the numb. Harsh? Perhaps...

Also, I wonder if those books could be used as a learning tool rather than pulling them altogether. Explain to the younger ones about stereotypes, outdated schools of thought and action, etc. 

I don’t disagree, but not publishing 6 books moving forward doesn’t equate to pulling or canceling something, at least not IMO. Last I checked no one was banning Dr Seuss books. & the Mr Potato Head outcry was absurd... the existence of a gender neutral toy shouldn’t threaten anyone’s way of life. 

I agree the mob mentality in our society sucks, and I definitely don’t deny its existence. I couldn’t care less about the bachelor, but I think it’s dumb for that guy to lose his job over some boneheaded statements. 

I just don’t think “cancel culture” is the problem that yes, The Right is making it out to be, at least not compared to some of the other issues currently plaguing our nation.

Regarding your last comment, it’s already done that for me... this morning alone I read up a bit Dr Seuss’s history of political cartoons, and it’s an interesting one. I implore all to do some research on it. 

I don’t agree w/ censorship, but OTOH, it’s not unreasonable to look at some art & decide it isn’t really relevant for modern day (if not outright offensive & racist).

My wife told me about The Bachelor host and then we watched the interview together, bonehead and ignorant indeed. The amount of times he said "I don't know" and "woke" was enough to make me dislike him. How he answered made it pretty clear for me. Not sure if he should lose his job, but that's up to his employer. Definitely needs to do some personal work.