Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable.
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable.
It's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable.
Bolded that last part.
There are other things I remember that I liked that just aren't around anymore. There was a Japanese beetle in Blue Racer or in Pink Panther the ant spinoff? The WB off shoots with lines like "and a space, for the mother inlaw...", Heckyl and Jeckyl. I liked Speedy Gonzales too.
You could get rid of Daffy Duck episodes where Bugs makes fun of his stuttering?
Didn't really grow up with the Looney Tunes or the WB-characters (rented the Roadrunner VHS though when we visited our aunt once). But I know of the skunk character.
But is he written as OVERLY-HORNY or OVERLY IN-LOVE ?
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Didn't really grow up with the Looney Tunes or the WB-characters (rented the Ruadrunner VHS though when we visited our aunt once). But I know of the skunk character.
But is he written as OVERLY-HORNY or OVERLY IN-LOVE ?
he is overly in love but he's super physically agressive, where the female cat is constantly trying to escape his unwanted advances. he usually traps her in various ways so she can't get away. i can see where a lot of people would get triggered by that type of thing.
Ah okey, so the ill-smelling skunk goes after a cat? Not another skunk? Does he believe she is a skunk -- or does he think that he can DATE WAY ABOVE HIS LEAGUE?!
Yeah. I can picture there being a lot of "once comical" situations, where it is now "wait, is that cartoon character not letting that other cartoon characters leave when she clearly has told him no?"
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Ah okey, so the ill-smelling skunk goes after a cat? Not another skunk? Does he believe she is a skunk -- or does he think that he can DATE WAY ABOVE HIS LEAGUE?!
Yeah. I can picture there being a lot of "once comical" situations, where it is now "wait, is that cartoon character not letting that other cartoon characters leave when she clearly has told him no?"
From what I remember, he always thinks she is a skunk. She gets accidentally painted with a white stripe, or something else happens, that makes him think she is a skunk too. And he falls in love. And yes, is overly aggressive with his love. But I really don't see it as any different than other characters who are overly violent towards their counterpart in countless other cartoons. Its a silly premise with silly actions. Never meant to be an example or taken seriously.
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable.
Bolded that last part.
There are other things I remember that I liked that just aren't around anymore. There was a Japanese beetle in Blue Racer or in Pink Panther the ant spinoff? The WB off shoots with lines like "and a space, for the mother inlaw...", Heckyl and Jeckyl. I liked Speedy Gonzales too.
You could get rid of Daffy Duck episodes where Bugs makes fun of his stuttering?
The list goes on and on...
I don't know if you could ever claim that no one was negatively influenced. Backyard wrestling craziness was a product of people watching WWF and then deciding to replicate it no matter how dangerous and stupid it was. Sure, no one bought an Acme Anvil, but you also couldn't go on Amazon and do so like today. I'm sure plenty of kids got hurt experimenting with their own homemade contraptions. Not really data that anyone tracked or is available for analysis.
And circling back to the whole Pepe argument, I would find it very hard to believe there was not some sort of psychological influence on children from seeing that behavior. We know media images, videos and ads have an affect on influencing cultural and behavioral norms. Whether it's objectifying women or thinking Joe Camel is cool. I would also wager that several kids re-enacted scenes of chasing girls around the playground like it was a Pepe v. striped cat scenario, whether playful and joking or not.
Didn't really grow up with the Looney Tunes or the WB-characters (rented the Roadrunner VHS though when we visited our aunt once). But I know of the skunk character.
But is he written as OVERLY-HORNY or OVERLY IN-LOVE ?
Imagine if they actually drew the Tasmanian Devil as it is in real life when it meets a female devil? Man would they have a hard time with nature then!
Ah okey, so the ill-smelling skunk goes after a cat? Not another skunk? Does he believe she is a skunk -- or does he think that he can DATE WAY ABOVE HIS LEAGUE?!
Yeah. I can picture there being a lot of "once comical" situations, where it is now "wait, is that cartoon character not letting that other cartoon characters leave when she clearly has told him no?"
From what I remember, he always thinks she is a skunk. She gets accidentally painted with a white stripe, or something else happens, that makes him think she is a skunk too. And he falls in love. And yes, is overly aggressive with his love. But I really don't see it as any different than other characters who are overly violent towards their counterpart in countless other cartoons. Its a silly premise with silly actions. Never meant to be an example or taken seriously.
correct, but in today's climate re: unwanted sexual advances/assault, that type of character just doesn't work. if they didn't use him as he was, how would they use him at all? maybe chasing the cat around trying to apologize to her?
it's not always about "cancelling" the past, but more just moving on without things that no longer work in today's society.
what's funny is that any rational person could see that Pepe was cringe, and the female cat always gave him his comeuppance.
this is the metoo version of banning the violence in bugs bunny cartoons. I can understand it, even if I think it's kinda dumb.
not one kid bought an acme anvil and accidentally dropped it on their own head because of a faulty catapult.
sometimes these things go too far. I get it with some things, other things you just have to roll your eyes.
I remember when Disney, that's right, Disney, decided to not show smoking in its movies and right wing America went nuts. There's no way they won't lose their minds about stuff like this. Does anyone really need Disney to have smoking in its movies? No; they're just manufacturing outrage (another projection).
I think it does get tricky when you talk about past-created things aimed at kids. Lots of cartoons had some pretty bad stuff in terms of racial stereotyping, sexism, violence, etc. And while my parents explained the context of the N-word in Huck Finn, no parents are going to be able to cover all of the out-of-date stuff we have to show our children (lest the bad guys win). Do bad sterotypes in those Suess books cause a problem? I'd argue yes. But can / should we "cancel" that? ("We" didn't cancel it, as it turns out) Probably not. But it does leave us in a sub-optimal situation of putting some bad stereotypes into the minds of impressionable children.
Of course the bottom line is that all the US Right even has anymore is "they're coming after our way of life."
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Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
I just figure Pepe was French, and that's why he acted in such a manner.
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
I just figure Pepe was French, and that's why he acted in such a manner.
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable.
How do you explain Governor Andrew Cuomo's behavior?
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
I just figure Pepe was French, and that's why he acted in such a manner.
I read that Charles Boyer played a small part in Pepe’s incarnation.
Interesting that he played a quasi-Pepe in Barefoot in the Park. Victor Velasco!
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable.
How do you explain Governor Andrew Cuomo's behavior?
yeah, haha, I'm sure he probably told those women "what? Pepe did it, and he's adorable!".
people should know better. some don't. some do and do it anyway. But I cannot get on board with people thinking something is ok because a cartoon did it. maybe a child. MAYBE. but not a full grown adult.
if Cuomo orders rocket roller skates off amazon to try to catch his dinner, I'll consider myself corrected.
Let’s cancel politicians...never been a more corrupt bunch of assholes
We can, they're called elections. "Rent Is Too Damn High" guy, Cool Moose Party candidate, etc. However, you get what you pull the lever for. See POTUS, now POOTWH, November 8, 2016 to January 20, 2021.
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable.
How do you explain Governor Andrew Cuomo's behavior?
He’s always been an arrogant, self absorbed bully who mastered the art of being a politician. I guess people are now noticing without the distraction Trump.
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable.
How do you explain Governor Andrew Cuomo's behavior?
He’s always been an arrogant, self absorbed bully who mastered the art of being a politician. I guess people are now noticing without the distraction Trump.
Anybody else think he was just a flirt but it wasn't received so well by women whom don't like older men?
Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable.
How do you explain Governor Andrew Cuomo's behavior?
He’s always been an arrogant, self absorbed bully who mastered the art of being a politician. I guess people are now noticing without the distraction Trump.
I blame cartoons and the devil’s music, rock and roll.
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this is the metoo version of banning the violence in bugs bunny cartoons. I can understand it, even if I think it's kinda dumb.
not one kid bought an acme anvil and accidentally dropped it on their own head because of a faulty catapult.
sometimes these things go too far. I get it with some things, other things you just have to roll your eyes.
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Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show.
There are other things I remember that I liked that just aren't around anymore. There was a Japanese beetle in Blue Racer or in Pink Panther the ant spinoff? The WB off shoots with lines like "and a space, for the mother inlaw...", Heckyl and Jeckyl. I liked Speedy Gonzales too.
You could get rid of Daffy Duck episodes where Bugs makes fun of his stuttering?
The list goes on and on...
But is he written as OVERLY-HORNY or OVERLY IN-LOVE ?
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Yeah. I can picture there being a lot of "once comical" situations, where it is now "wait, is that cartoon character not letting that other cartoon characters leave when she clearly has told him no?"
And circling back to the whole Pepe argument, I would find it very hard to believe there was not some sort of psychological influence on children from seeing that behavior. We know media images, videos and ads have an affect on influencing cultural and behavioral norms. Whether it's objectifying women or thinking Joe Camel is cool. I would also wager that several kids re-enacted scenes of chasing girls around the playground like it was a Pepe v. striped cat scenario, whether playful and joking or not.
Bottom line, there is definitely an influence.
it's not always about "cancelling" the past, but more just moving on without things that no longer work in today's society.
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I think it does get tricky when you talk about past-created things aimed at kids. Lots of cartoons had some pretty bad stuff in terms of racial stereotyping, sexism, violence, etc. And while my parents explained the context of the N-word in Huck Finn, no parents are going to be able to cover all of the out-of-date stuff we have to show our children (lest the bad guys win). Do bad sterotypes in those Suess books cause a problem? I'd argue yes. But can / should we "cancel" that? ("We" didn't cancel it, as it turns out) Probably not. But it does leave us in a sub-optimal situation of putting some bad stereotypes into the minds of impressionable children.
Of course the bottom line is that all the US Right even has anymore is "they're coming after our way of life."
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Interesting that he played a quasi-Pepe in Barefoot in the Park. Victor Velasco!
people should know better. some don't. some do and do it anyway. But I cannot get on board with people thinking something is ok because a cartoon did it. maybe a child. MAYBE. but not a full grown adult.
if Cuomo orders rocket roller skates off amazon to try to catch his dinner, I'll consider myself corrected.
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he is like pepe, just without most of the gross physical contact.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."