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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 34,061
    america first caucus will be back shortly. they basically said the quiet part out loud. give them a couple of weeks for this snafu to blow over and they will be back.

    Exactly what happened here in conservative El Dorado County.  During the early months of the year, the Proud Boy, Trump flag waving yahoos kind of went into hiding a bit.  Lately, they are back out there setting up their Trump flag stands once again, putting up pro-Trump flags along our stretch of U.S. Highway 50 ("The Loneliest Road in America is also one of the most conservative), and roaring around in their shot-muffler Trump Trucks making themselves obnoxiously obvious.  These people are angry, misguided, and itching for trouble.  I keep my distance!
    “In all human affairs there are efforts, and there are results, and the strength of the effort is the measure of the result.”
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 24,719
    Will she offer her opinion on today’s verdict 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 26,059
    Will she offer her opinion on today’s verdict 
    LOL. she'll probably hang a confederate flag outside her office. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,682
    i bet she posts a crossfit video to own the libs and the minorities.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,695
    Will she offer her opinion on today’s verdict 
    Give her time. She’ll need it to rewrite her press releases to say the quiet part out loud.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,734
    She seems disappointed that nobody rioted in DC. Must've had to throw away all those talking points...
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,521
    She seems disappointed that nobody rioted in DC. Must've had to throw away all those talking points...
    Her and many others. 

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,734
    She seems disappointed that nobody rioted in DC. Must've had to throw away all those talking points...
    Her and many others. 
    Tucker Carlson damn near lost his mind over it. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,695
    @mrussel1 Tell me how this ends well for 'Murica. I enjoy your optimism. Money talks, bullshit walks, right?

    Corporations that pledged to cut off Republican lawmakers who opposed certifying the presidential election largely made good on the commitment, removing a key source of financial support for the party in the first three months of the year.

    But at least a third of those 147 Republicans nevertheless raised more campaign money compared with the same period in 2019, boosting their collections from individual donors to make up the difference, a Washington Post analysis of federal election records shows.

    A handful of congressional Republicans — the most outspoken supporters of groundless election-related claims that helped inspire the Jan. 6 mob attack on the Capitol — shattered their fundraising performances from two years earlier.

    Sens. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) and Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) each pulled in more than $3 million. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), whose extreme views prompted a House vote in February that stripped her of committee assignments, raised more than $3.2 million. That earned her the second-highest fundraising haul among House Republicans, behind only Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.), who also opposed certifying President Biden’s electoral win.

    Several other Republicans who built national profiles as hard-line Trump loyalists also posted banner fundraising hauls.

    In total, a dozen GOP election objectors raised at least $1 million each. Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), now facing a federal investigation into possible sex trafficking, raised $1.8 million; Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), who like Gaetz proved one of Trump’s most reliable defenders on Fox News, collected $2.1 million. A pair of bombastic freshmen — Reps. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.), who raised $1 million, and Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), who raised $846,000 — leapfrogged the vast majority of their colleagues by rallying individual donors.

    Taken together, the results from the first quarter offer a view of a Republican Party increasingly alienated from the corporate class it once counted on as a stalwart ally. The deadly riot at the Capitol repulsed business leaders already wary of the GOP’s transformation under President Donald Trump. And the party’s fastest-rising stars remain unapologetic for stoking false claims of a stolen election that led to the insurrection. Instead, they are shunning support from business in favor of individual donors Trump helped activate.

    Corporate interests and other traditional conservative donors have rallied to the handful of Republicans moving to banish the former president. Those House Republicans who have drawn primary challenges after voting to impeach Trump for his role in the Jan. 6 attack outpaced their opposition in the first quarter, according to a review by the Center for Responsive Politics. House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wy.), the most prominent among them, collected $1.5 million.

    Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), who has launched a super PAC to support anti-Trump Republicans, raised $1.1 million, his highest-ever quarterly total.

    “There were a lot of people who wrote the 10 of us off after we did this,” Kinzinger said of the House Republicans who voted for Trump’s impeachment. “I think the fact that all of us had great quarters shows that if you do the right thing, there’s a constituency out there that will support it.”

    Those Republicans with an outsize media presence and a rising profile among small donors may not have registered the snub from big businesses. But a number of industry-friendly lawmakers, who once leveraged posts on top committees to rake in corporate contributions, saw their fundraising drop dramatically.

    “It’s their money, and it’s their right to do whatever they chose to do,” said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), whose first-quarter collections cratered from $147,000 in 2019 to $42,000 this year after voting against certifying Biden’s victory. “But I think people tend to remember something like that, so we’ll see what happens.”

    Several corporate interests that pledged at least to rethink their political activity after the attack on the Capitol already have restarted giving to some Republican election objectors, including Toyota, Cigna, JetBlue and the National Association of Realtors.

    Toyota said in a statement it would not withhold contributions from lawmakers “solely based on their votes” on certifying the election. Cigna said its “new standard applies to those who incited violence or actively sought” to disrupt the presidential transition. JetBlue and the Realtors lobby signaled in statements that the events around the Capitol attack will no longer bear on their political giving.

    Others appear to have end-run their own pledges by cutting checks to groups that have provided critical support to the lawmakers in past campaigns. Intel, for example, donated to the National Republican Congressional Committee, and AT&T contributed to the House Conservatives Fund, as the newsletter Popular Info first reported.

    The U.S. Chamber of Commerce helped open the door for such moves. In a March memo, the big-business lobby said it would draw a distinction between Republicans who voted against certifying the election and “those who engaged and continue to engage in repeated actions that undermine the legitimacy of our elections and institutions.”

    Cole, a former political consultant and past chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said some PAC directors for companies that have sworn off donations to the 147 Republicans have told him they are looking for an opportunity to reopen the spigot. Those executives have him they “wanted to make a statement, but they know long term who works with them and who doesn’t.”

    A Democratic push for raising corporate taxes to help fund infrastructure spending — which Republicans are expected to oppose — could force the issue, Cole said. “I don’t see a long-term change in giving patterns,” he said. In the meantime, “most people raise a lot more money from sources other than PACs, so it’s not as damaging as it would have been a few years ago.”

    Some top House Republicans are encouraging their colleagues to embrace a small-donor strategy. They argue Republicans can burnish their populist credentials by shunning corporate support. Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.), who chairs the conservative Republican Study Committee, points to his own success replacing corporate PAC support he lost after the Capitol attack, including from Indiana-based drugmaker Eli Lilly.

    “Once my supporters learned that liberal corporations blacklisted me because I refused to cave to their demands on January 6th, they were happy to make up the difference,” Banks wrote in a lengthy memo sent to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) in late March.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/04/21/republicans-challenge-election-campaign-cash/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https://s2.washingtonpost.com/car-ln-tr/31f9f08/60804eb79d2fda1dfb573d2a/5976284bade4e21a849ea7bf/26/68/60804eb79d2fda1dfb573d2a

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,223
    What optimism do you mean?  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,695
    mrussel1 said:
    What optimism do you mean?  
    That you think the POOTWH Party is a lost cause and won’t amount to anything other than dying on the vine.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,223
    mrussel1 said:
    What optimism do you mean?  
    That you think the POOTWH Party is a lost cause and won’t amount to anything other than dying on the vine.
    Yes I do think that still.  Fundraising numbers don't change my mind on it.  I'm saying this is not a growing % of the population that ascribe to nativism, it's shrinking.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,695
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What optimism do you mean?  
    That you think the POOTWH Party is a lost cause and won’t amount to anything other than dying on the vine.
    Yes I do think that still.  Fundraising numbers don't change my mind on it.  I'm saying this is not a growing % of the population that ascribe to nativism, it's shrinking.  
    The power of the (Soon to be white) minority. Midterms will tell.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 4,046
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What optimism do you mean?  
    That you think the POOTWH Party is a lost cause and won’t amount to anything other than dying on the vine.
    Yes I do think that still.  Fundraising numbers don't change my mind on it.  I'm saying this is not a growing % of the population that ascribe to nativism, it's shrinking.  
    The power of the (Soon to be white) minority. Midterms will tell.
    If that power is not in red states, it matters very little in US elections Despite bungling a deadly pandemic, trump came within a certified millimeter of winning the election and the GOP was a handful of seats of winning the House. Let’s go ahead and defund the police and hand law enforcement over to meter maids. That should help in the midterms.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,223
    I don't know what we will learn in the mid terms at the House level.  I think we'll learn more with the senate seats and how those go, particularly with Trumpy people like Ron Johnson.  He hasn't said he will run yet, but if he were to win in Wisconsin, that would be ominous.  

    Here in VA, a female lunatic named Amanda Chase will likely get the GOP nod for R governor.  She will get walloped by most any democrat that ends up running. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,734
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know what we will learn in the mid terms at the House level.  I think we'll learn more with the senate seats and how those go, particularly with Trumpy people like Ron Johnson.  He hasn't said he will run yet, but if he were to win in Wisconsin, that would be ominous.  

    Here in VA, a female lunatic named Amanda Chase will likely get the GOP nod for R governor.  She will get walloped by most any democrat that ends up running. 
    I appreciate you clarifying that Amanda Chase is indeed female. 

    lol
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,223
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know what we will learn in the mid terms at the House level.  I think we'll learn more with the senate seats and how those go, particularly with Trumpy people like Ron Johnson.  He hasn't said he will run yet, but if he were to win in Wisconsin, that would be ominous.  

    Here in VA, a female lunatic named Amanda Chase will likely get the GOP nod for R governor.  She will get walloped by most any democrat that ends up running. 
    I appreciate you clarifying that Amanda Chase is indeed female. 

    lol
    I didn't want you to confused with Amanda Hugginkiss.

    Hey, I'm looking for Amanda Hugginkiss! 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,734
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know what we will learn in the mid terms at the House level.  I think we'll learn more with the senate seats and how those go, particularly with Trumpy people like Ron Johnson.  He hasn't said he will run yet, but if he were to win in Wisconsin, that would be ominous.  

    Here in VA, a female lunatic named Amanda Chase will likely get the GOP nod for R governor.  She will get walloped by most any democrat that ends up running. 
    I appreciate you clarifying that Amanda Chase is indeed female. 

    lol
    I didn't want you to confused with Amanda Hugginkiss.

    Hey, I'm looking for Amanda Hugginkiss! 
    All I know is that male Ron Johnson is fucking nuts.
    chinese-happy.jpg
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,223
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know what we will learn in the mid terms at the House level.  I think we'll learn more with the senate seats and how those go, particularly with Trumpy people like Ron Johnson.  He hasn't said he will run yet, but if he were to win in Wisconsin, that would be ominous.  

    Here in VA, a female lunatic named Amanda Chase will likely get the GOP nod for R governor.  She will get walloped by most any democrat that ends up running. 
    I appreciate you clarifying that Amanda Chase is indeed female. 

    lol
    I didn't want you to confused with Amanda Hugginkiss.

    Hey, I'm looking for Amanda Hugginkiss! 
    All I know is that male Ron Johnson is fucking nuts.
    What about Barry McCockiner?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,733
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know what we will learn in the mid terms at the House level.  I think we'll learn more with the senate seats and how those go, particularly with Trumpy people like Ron Johnson.  He hasn't said he will run yet, but if he were to win in Wisconsin, that would be ominous.  

    Here in VA, a female lunatic named Amanda Chase will likely get the GOP nod for R governor.  She will get walloped by most any democrat that ends up running. 
    I appreciate you clarifying that Amanda Chase is indeed female. 

    lol
    I didn't want you to confused with Amanda Hugginkiss.

    Hey, I'm looking for Amanda Hugginkiss! 
    All I know is that male Ron Johnson is fucking nuts.
    What about Barry McCockiner?
    Is he related to Dick Gozinya?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,223
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know what we will learn in the mid terms at the House level.  I think we'll learn more with the senate seats and how those go, particularly with Trumpy people like Ron Johnson.  He hasn't said he will run yet, but if he were to win in Wisconsin, that would be ominous.  

    Here in VA, a female lunatic named Amanda Chase will likely get the GOP nod for R governor.  She will get walloped by most any democrat that ends up running. 
    I appreciate you clarifying that Amanda Chase is indeed female. 

    lol
    I didn't want you to confused with Amanda Hugginkiss.

    Hey, I'm looking for Amanda Hugginkiss! 
    All I know is that male Ron Johnson is fucking nuts.
    What about Barry McCockiner?
    Is he related to Dick Gozinya?
    Definitely kissing cousins
  • static111static111 Posts: 2,530
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What optimism do you mean?  
    That you think the POOTWH Party is a lost cause and won’t amount to anything other than dying on the vine.
    Yes I do think that still.  Fundraising numbers don't change my mind on it.  I'm saying this is not a growing % of the population that ascribe to nativism, it's shrinking.  
    The power of the (Soon to be white) minority. Midterms will tell.
    If that power is not in red states, it matters very little in US elections Despite bungling a deadly pandemic, trump came within a certified millimeter of winning the election and the GOP was a handful of seats of winning the House. Let’s go ahead and defund the police and hand law enforcement over to meter maids. That should help in the midterms.
    Yes let’s blame those things rather than admit we have a racist problem and a racist party.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,734
    edited April 21
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What optimism do you mean?  
    That you think the POOTWH Party is a lost cause and won’t amount to anything other than dying on the vine.
    Yes I do think that still.  Fundraising numbers don't change my mind on it.  I'm saying this is not a growing % of the population that ascribe to nativism, it's shrinking.  
    The power of the (Soon to be white) minority. Midterms will tell.
    If that power is not in red states, it matters very little in US elections Despite bungling a deadly pandemic, trump came within a certified millimeter of winning the election and the GOP was a handful of seats of winning the House. Let’s go ahead and defund the police and hand law enforcement over to meter maids. That should help in the midterms.
    Yes let’s blame those things rather than admit we have a racist problem and a racist party.
    If 2018 and 2020 taught us anything, Lerx is correct. Yeah there are a bunch of racists in the republican party. But shouting "defund the police" at the top of your lungs is only going to help them rise to power again. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 2,530
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What optimism do you mean?  
    That you think the POOTWH Party is a lost cause and won’t amount to anything other than dying on the vine.
    Yes I do think that still.  Fundraising numbers don't change my mind on it.  I'm saying this is not a growing % of the population that ascribe to nativism, it's shrinking.  
    The power of the (Soon to be white) minority. Midterms will tell.
    If that power is not in red states, it matters very little in US elections Despite bungling a deadly pandemic, trump came within a certified millimeter of winning the election and the GOP was a handful of seats of winning the House. Let’s go ahead and defund the police and hand law enforcement over to meter maids. That should help in the midterms.
    Yes let’s blame those things rather than admit we have a racist problem and a racist party.
    If 2018 and 2020 taught us anything, Lerx is correct. Yeah there are a bunch of racists in the republican party. But shouting "defund the police" at the top of your lungs is only going to help them rise to power again. 
    The majority of people who vote for these racists will vote for the racists whether people are screaming defund the police or not.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,734
    edited April 21
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What optimism do you mean?  
    That you think the POOTWH Party is a lost cause and won’t amount to anything other than dying on the vine.
    Yes I do think that still.  Fundraising numbers don't change my mind on it.  I'm saying this is not a growing % of the population that ascribe to nativism, it's shrinking.  
    The power of the (Soon to be white) minority. Midterms will tell.
    If that power is not in red states, it matters very little in US elections Despite bungling a deadly pandemic, trump came within a certified millimeter of winning the election and the GOP was a handful of seats of winning the House. Let’s go ahead and defund the police and hand law enforcement over to meter maids. That should help in the midterms.
    Yes let’s blame those things rather than admit we have a racist problem and a racist party.
    If 2018 and 2020 taught us anything, Lerx is correct. Yeah there are a bunch of racists in the republican party. But shouting "defund the police" at the top of your lungs is only going to help them rise to power again. 
    The majority of people who vote for these racists will vote for the racists whether people are screaming defund the police or not.
    It wasn't the far left who won the house, senate, and presidency over the last few years. You scream "defund the police" and you lose a portion of the moderate democrats and independents who brought that party to power....while also firing up the very racist base you want to defeat. 

    It's a fine line to walk, for sure. 
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  • jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MNPosts: 2,108
    Got to agree about the term “defund the police.” It popular along a select group on the far left, not so much with the general public. Check out what Rep. Jim Clyburn thought of the phrase. Similar to what others are saying.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/08/james-clyburn-defund-police-cost-democrats-seats-hurt-black-lives-matter/6216371002/

  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,521
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know what we will learn in the mid terms at the House level.  I think we'll learn more with the senate seats and how those go, particularly with Trumpy people like Ron Johnson.  He hasn't said he will run yet, but if he were to win in Wisconsin, that would be ominous.  

    Here in VA, a female lunatic named Amanda Chase will likely get the GOP nod for R governor.  She will get walloped by most any democrat that ends up running. 
    I appreciate you clarifying that Amanda Chase is indeed female. 

    lol
    I didn't want you to confused with Amanda Hugginkiss.

    Hey, I'm looking for Amanda Hugginkiss! 
    Wife’s cousin has named her expected baby Oliver... there’s no way I’m not calling that kid Oliver Clothesoff for the first few years at least. 

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,223
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know what we will learn in the mid terms at the House level.  I think we'll learn more with the senate seats and how those go, particularly with Trumpy people like Ron Johnson.  He hasn't said he will run yet, but if he were to win in Wisconsin, that would be ominous.  

    Here in VA, a female lunatic named Amanda Chase will likely get the GOP nod for R governor.  She will get walloped by most any democrat that ends up running. 
    I appreciate you clarifying that Amanda Chase is indeed female. 

    lol
    I didn't want you to confused with Amanda Hugginkiss.

    Hey, I'm looking for Amanda Hugginkiss! 
    Wife’s cousin has named her expected baby Oliver... there’s no way I’m not calling that kid Oliver Clothesoff for the first few years at least. 
    Haha, that's a good one!
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,682
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What optimism do you mean?  
    That you think the POOTWH Party is a lost cause and won’t amount to anything other than dying on the vine.
    Yes I do think that still.  Fundraising numbers don't change my mind on it.  I'm saying this is not a growing % of the population that ascribe to nativism, it's shrinking.  
    The power of the (Soon to be white) minority. Midterms will tell.
    If that power is not in red states, it matters very little in US elections Despite bungling a deadly pandemic, trump came within a certified millimeter of winning the election and the GOP was a handful of seats of winning the House. Let’s go ahead and defund the police and hand law enforcement over to meter maids. That should help in the midterms.
    Yes let’s blame those things rather than admit we have a racist problem and a racist party.
    If 2018 and 2020 taught us anything, Lerx is correct. Yeah there are a bunch of racists in the republican party. But shouting "defund the police" at the top of your lungs is only going to help them rise to power again. 
    The majority of people who vote for these racists will vote for the racists whether people are screaming defund the police or not.
    It wasn't the far left who won the house, senate, and presidency over the last few years. You scream "defund the police" and you lose a portion of the moderate democrats and independents who brought that party to power....while also firing up the very racist base you want to defeat. 

    It's a fine line to walk, for sure. 
    I think the average moderate understands that there are problems with the way police act, particularly in how they relate to blacks. That said, I don’t think the average person understands that phrase and I think it scares them. I understand that “reform the police” sounds soft/pragmatic/slow but I think that is what would resonate. Ultimately, most of the people we need voting want continued police protection and that phrase scares them. It is frustrating to think about the long-haul that might be needed to improve policing in the United States and I hate the idea of telling black America to be patient while more of them are killed with impunity. But realistically, it’s the only possible path to improvement.  Scaring off moderate voters and making him a GQP the only party in power is going to be a disastrous results for everybody.

    If George Floyd isn’t murdered, we don’t really know what would have happened but I suspect the 2020 wave would have been much of bluer.
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