Billy Corgan Mentions Eddie in Stern Interview

Merkin Baller

He's insufferable. 

Some artists are good enough to get away with acting like pricks 100% of the time, and IMO Corgan isn't one of them. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Merkin Baller said:

He's insufferable. 

Some artists are good enough to get away with acting like pricks 100% of the time, and IMO Corgan isn't one of them. 

Nope, he aint got the charm of say, a Liam Gallagher.

eboweddie

eboweddie

I wonder does billy have a dig at other artists because they are revered.  Its impossible to like corgan.  As we say in Ireland.  Hes a gobshite. A hugely talented one.  Incredible guitar player and song writer.  But jesus Billy cheer up. It's not so bad. 

JeBurkhardt

I use the term Fecalitis for people like that. Having a crappy outlook on everything.

Merkin Baller

"Why don't more people like my band???"

Jeez, I wonder why. 

DoDaFoo

I'm listening to the new Pumpkins album now. 14 songs in, this isn't good. It's boring honestly. Little variety between songs, and not much that stands out.

cp3iverson

Not disagreeing with anyone.  It’s just who he is.  I think he cares about his legacy and perception so much that it’s overwhelming.  He says he doesn't care about that or “alternative” but he's the #1 guy at constantly analyzing that old scene and his place in it.  

Smart guy, intelligent guy.  One of the truest things i ever heard was that he’s the biggest SP fan of them all (which makes the reissues and bonus materials so amazing).  

Sometimes its better to just be nice tho.  

hihobibo

Even his discussion about EVHalen in the earlier part of the interview showed how he was confrontational with him. Saying along the lines of "He just thought I was some crappy alternative artist", shows the ego on Corgan, and while he may have been trying to be humorous, it does not come across that way.

DoDaFoo said:

I'm listening to the new Pumpkins album now. 14 songs in, this isn't good. It's boring honestly. Little variety between songs, and not much that stands out.

I listened to it, its not too bad, just very different. Sound like some of these newer emo bands (Panic at the disco, perhaps), but not something I'd listen to much more than that one spin.

Merkin Baller

cp3iverson said:

It’s just who he is.  

There in lies the problem. 
If you want more people to like you, maybe act more likable?
Or just be who you're going to be and stop whining that you're not as popular as you think you should be. 

2-feign-reluctance

I mean, to be fair, he had a different look at Ed back then, one that none of you here could have unless you were involved in the whole scene directly. Maybe he knows something we don't and isn't going to specifically disparage him on a national show. Again, he's entitled to believe what he wants based on his experiences with Ed. Just as you are entitled to make a bunch of armchair psychological diagnoses with little more than what someone has said in the press or on Instagram.

F Me In The Brain

I always like it when people rush to defend public figures who say stuff.  I think the body of work with this guy having a problem with everyone he comes across pretty much tells any reasonable person what they need to know.

Merkin Baller

F Me In The Brain said:

I always like it when people rush to defend public figures who say stuff.  I think the body of work with this guy having a problem with everyone he comes across pretty much tells any reasonable person what they need to know.

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."

F Me In The Brain

Merkin Baller said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I always like it when people rush to defend public figures who say stuff.  I think the body of work with this guy having a problem with everyone he comes across pretty much tells any reasonable person what they need to know.

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."

Haha.  Yeah, that works.

Poncier

I posted this pic at the time but seems a good spot for it here.
Won a radio contest during the Oceania tour for "Breakfast with Billy" at the Boston Hard Rock Cafe the morning of the show then tix to see the show that night. Knowing Billy's previous comments regarding PJ, and the fact that it was Oct 27, decided to do a subtle troll job on Billy...


Don't think he picked up on it.

But I will say he was extremely gracious at that event, answering every question in great detail, posing for pics and signing stuff for everyone.(He actually had to suggest that to the radio station folks)
Think he has issues with some folks like anybody, whether or not he has valid reasons, but in his position he should just keep certain things to himself.
Thought their shows in 2018 were phenomenal.

HughFreakingDillon

eboweddie said:

I wonder does billy have a dig at other artists because they are revered.  Its impossible to like corgan.  As we say in Ireland.  Hes a gobshite. A hugely talented one.  Incredible guitar player and song writer.  But jesus Billy cheer up. It's not so bad. 

i think he's jealous of other artists that don't care about their legacy, or how they are thought of by other artists. this obviously consumes corgan. anyone who quits the music business because they can't compete with the spice girls aren't doing it for the right reasons. he is an amazing songwriter, but the guy seems to just want to be, not better than his previous self, but better than everyone else, and when he doesn't get the recognition he gives himself in the mirror, he lashes out. 

he simply cannot understand why ed didn't want fame. that is clearly corgan's complete motivation, and the thought of being an entertainer without wanting the adulation confuses him. 

i think it's why he identifies with trump. 

he tries like hell to remain relevant and it's a struggle for him, whereas ed and others don't try, and they just get it anyway. this drives him nuts. 

bone

Long Red said:

Corgan is perplexing. He's arguably one of the greatest songwriters of his generation, and simultaneously someone who seems to get along with absolutely no one outside of his Pumpkins bubble. It's a shame. Why can't we be friends?

He doesn't even get along with whoever's in the bubble except maybe Chamberlain.  The rest stick around because it is a decent gig and because he is actually talented.  

Even AXL who is significantly more abrasive than him has found ways to make friends outside his bubble.  Not sure what Billy's problem is.  

HughFreakingDillon

bone said:

Long Red said:

Corgan is perplexing. He's arguably one of the greatest songwriters of his generation, and simultaneously someone who seems to get along with absolutely no one outside of his Pumpkins bubble. It's a shame. Why can't we be friends?

He doesn't even get along with whoever's in the bubble except may Chamberlain.  The rest stick around for the gig and because he is actually talented.  

and he even fired chamberlain twice. lol

bone

HughFreakingDillon said:

bone said:

Long Red said:

Corgan is perplexing. He's arguably one of the greatest songwriters of his generation, and simultaneously someone who seems to get along with absolutely no one outside of his Pumpkins bubble. It's a shame. Why can't we be friends?

He doesn't even get along with whoever's in the bubble except may Chamberlain.  The rest stick around for the gig and because he is actually talented.  

and he even fired chamberlain twice. lol

Exactly.  

ry75guy

Really cool article on the Chicago music scene of the '90s. I just happened to read it last week. Goes into a bit on Billy and his unapologetic drive to be famous https://music.avclub.com/a-great-time-to-be-alive-and-own-a-guitar-chicago-s-1798261063. Definitely a very different motivation from a lot of what was happening in Seattle and the rest of Chicago.