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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............


    Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

    If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  
    Exactly- no one will prosecute this.  They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?  
    When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
    No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions.  The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute.  The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion.  And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
    You know better than this. tRump controlled the DOJ for four years so don't act like he wouldn't have done something if he could. They had the fucking laptop and all that other bullshit under his dumbass reign.

    Of course nothing will come of this because it's bullshit. That is why no major news organization is even mentioning it. 
    Every time Comer is asked if he has any evidence Biden committed some kind of crime he says no. You want to talk about witch hunts, this is the definition. They're just hoping and praying they eventually find a crime. It's actually kind of funny. 
    santos is now calling his ordeal a "witch hunt" too. funny though, when he says it is just sounds weak and lacking when compared to when trump says it.


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,922
    Just for a little balance in everyone's lives, here's a properly written article from Politico.  Sometimes it's important to have some actual, critical thinking skills.  

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/10/james-comer-biden-probe-00096067

    Comer releases Biden family probe update without showing link to president


    But the highly anticipated press conference also raised fresh questions about their ability to ultimately capture their white whale: the president himself. And Comer’s already faced plenty of doubt, including from some within his own party, that he can back up his promises to show Biden’s connection to family business dealings.

    No link has publicly emerged, and that didn’t change at Wednesday’s press conference.

    And while Republicans have criticized the payments as questionable, they stopped short of calling any of the activity potentially illegal.

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    Just for a little balance in everyone's lives, here's a properly written article from Politico.  Sometimes it's important to have some actual, critical thinking skills.  

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/10/james-comer-biden-probe-00096067

    Comer releases Biden family probe update without showing link to president


    But the highly anticipated press conference also raised fresh questions about their ability to ultimately capture their white whale: the president himself. And Comer’s already faced plenty of doubt, including from some within his own party, that he can back up his promises to show Biden’s connection to family business dealings.

    No link has publicly emerged, and that didn’t change at Wednesday’s press conference.

    And while Republicans have criticized the payments as questionable, they stopped short of calling any of the activity potentially illegal.

    Bahahahahahahaha, cough, cough, bahahahahahahaha, gaaaaaaag, cough, cough, bahahahahahahaha!

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  • The Juggler
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    mrussel1 said:
    Just for a little balance in everyone's lives, here's a properly written article from Politico.  Sometimes it's important to have some actual, critical thinking skills.  

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/10/james-comer-biden-probe-00096067

    Comer releases Biden family probe update without showing link to president


    But the highly anticipated press conference also raised fresh questions about their ability to ultimately capture their white whale: the president himself. And Comer’s already faced plenty of doubt, including from some within his own party, that he can back up his promises to show Biden’s connection to family business dealings.

    No link has publicly emerged, and that didn’t change at Wednesday’s press conference.

    And while Republicans have criticized the payments as questionable, they stopped short of calling any of the activity potentially illegal.

    I don't believe. I will be doing my own research on this matter tonight. Stay tuned. 
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  • TJ25487
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    mrussel1 said:
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    I legitimately don't know who the Dems would run if Biden didn't run, though. The well is really, really dry. Yeah, the GOP well is not dry because it's full of sewage, but that sewage motivates that particular base. What Democrat is going to get people to the polls?
    Newsome
    Whitmer
    Shapiro

    Any of these three would be good, particularly the last two who have shown themselves as being able to win big in a purple state.  
    Newsome as is Gavin Newsome? Whitmer as in Gretchen Whitmer? Lord help us all.
  • JB16057
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    mrussel1 said:
    Just for a little balance in everyone's lives, here's a properly written article from Politico.  Sometimes it's important to have some actual, critical thinking skills.  

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/10/james-comer-biden-probe-00096067

    Comer releases Biden family probe update without showing link to president


    But the highly anticipated press conference also raised fresh questions about their ability to ultimately capture their white whale: the president himself. And Comer’s already faced plenty of doubt, including from some within his own party, that he can back up his promises to show Biden’s connection to family business dealings.

    No link has publicly emerged, and that didn’t change at Wednesday’s press conference.

    And while Republicans have criticized the payments as questionable, they stopped short of calling any of the activity potentially illegal.

    Properly written article, eh? Funny how it's missing the piece about the whistleblower and how Comer has asked the FBI to hand over the document that potentially shows the proof. What a fucking joke. 

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/comer-and-grassley-on-fbi-failing-to-comply-with-subpoena-deadline

    I won't believe anything until I see it and even then, we'll see if anything comes of it. Funny how Politico left the biggest piece of the puzzle out. 

    “While the FBI has failed to produce the specific document by the subpoena deadline, their offer to provide an accommodation process in response to our legitimate request indicates the document is real. So the question remains, what did the FBI do to investigate very serious allegations from an apparent trusted FBI source implicating then-Vice President Biden? Today’s letter from the FBI raises additional questions, including whether the FBI has an open investigation based on these allegations. The American people pay the FBI’s salaries, and they’re entitled to a fulsome response,” Grassley said.
     
    “It’s clear from the FBI’s response that the unclassified record the Oversight Committee subpoenaed exists, but they are refusing to provide it to the Committee. We’ve asked the FBI to not only provide this record, but to also inform us what it did to investigate these allegations. The FBI has failed to do both. The FBI’s position is ‘trust, but you aren’t allowed to verify.’ That is unacceptable. We plan to follow up with the FBI and expect compliance with the subpoena,” said Chairman Comer.
     
    Based on whistleblower disclosures, the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation possess an unclassified FD-1023 form that describes an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions. It has been alleged that the document includes a precise description of how the alleged criminal scheme was employed as well as its purpose.
  • TJ25487
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    mrussel1 said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............


    Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

    If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  
    Exactly- no one will prosecute this.  They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?  
    When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
    No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions.  The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute.  The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion.  And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
    So he should be impeached for actions by his family that occurred before he took office?  
    So should Trump be impeached for something he didn't even do? I'm sure you've heard of Russia Russia Russia and the way the FBI, CIA, DOJ even under Trump's presidency illegally spied on him and tried to sabotage him at every turn. 

    Joe Biden has been a government official his whole adult life and has mastered the art of getting rich on a public servant salary just like many politicians on both sides of the isle. If what is known about Joe and Hunter was actually about Trump and his son there wouldn't be enough server space on this website for the outrage you guys would spew! Sheez!!!!
  • mickeyrat
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    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............


    Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

    If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  
    Exactly- no one will prosecute this.  They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?  
    When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
    No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions.  The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute.  The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion.  And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
    So he should be impeached for actions by his family that occurred before he took office?  
    So should Trump be impeached for something he didn't even do? I'm sure you've heard of Russia Russia Russia and the way the FBI, CIA, DOJ even under Trump's presidency illegally spied on him and tried to sabotage him at every turn. 

    Joe Biden has been a government official his whole adult life and has mastered the art of getting rich on a public servant salary just like many politicians on both sides of the isle. If what is known about Joe and Hunter was actually about Trump and his son there wouldn't be enough server space on this website for the outrage you guys would spew! Sheez!!!!


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  • The Juggler
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    ^
    This guy thinks Trump was impeached over the Russia thing?  You guys are really confused. He really should have been impeached for obstructing that investigation but that is besides the point. 

    You aware of what Trump's daughter and son in law were doing while actually serving in his administration right? Or no, I guess you are not seeing as how you get your news from Fox and.....checks notes.....90 year old Chuck Grassley. 


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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............


    Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

    If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  
    Exactly- no one will prosecute this.  They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?  
    When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
    No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions.  The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute.  The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion.  And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
    So he should be impeached for actions by his family that occurred before he took office?  
    So should Trump be impeached for something he didn't even do? I'm sure you've heard of Russia Russia Russia and the way the FBI, CIA, DOJ even under Trump's presidency illegally spied on him and tried to sabotage him at every turn. 

    Joe Biden has been a government official his whole adult life and has mastered the art of getting rich on a public servant salary just like many politicians on both sides of the isle. If what is known about Joe and Hunter was actually about Trump and his son there wouldn't be enough server space on this website for the outrage you guys would spew! Sheez!!!!
    You cannot be serious with this. All the shit trump and his daughter/SIL did? 

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    I’ve never got the “saying Russia 3 times” thing. Whats that aboot?
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  • mrussel1
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    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............


    Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

    If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  
    Exactly- no one will prosecute this.  They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?  
    When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
    No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions.  The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute.  The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion.  And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
    So he should be impeached for actions by his family that occurred before he took office?  
    So should Trump be impeached for something he didn't even do? I'm sure you've heard of Russia Russia Russia and the way the FBI, CIA, DOJ even under Trump's presidency illegally spied on him and tried to sabotage him at every turn. 

    Joe Biden has been a government official his whole adult life and has mastered the art of getting rich on a public servant salary just like many politicians on both sides of the isle. If what is known about Joe and Hunter was actually about Trump and his son there wouldn't be enough server space on this website for the outrage you guys would spew! Sheez!!!!
    Which impeachment?   You'll have to be more specific.  
  • mrussel1
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    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just for a little balance in everyone's lives, here's a properly written article from Politico.  Sometimes it's important to have some actual, critical thinking skills.  

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/10/james-comer-biden-probe-00096067

    Comer releases Biden family probe update without showing link to president


    But the highly anticipated press conference also raised fresh questions about their ability to ultimately capture their white whale: the president himself. And Comer’s already faced plenty of doubt, including from some within his own party, that he can back up his promises to show Biden’s connection to family business dealings.

    No link has publicly emerged, and that didn’t change at Wednesday’s press conference.

    And while Republicans have criticized the payments as questionable, they stopped short of calling any of the activity potentially illegal.

    Properly written article, eh? Funny how it's missing the piece about the whistleblower and how Comer has asked the FBI to hand over the document that potentially shows the proof. What a fucking joke. 

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/comer-and-grassley-on-fbi-failing-to-comply-with-subpoena-deadline

    I won't believe anything until I see it and even then, we'll see if anything comes of it. Funny how Politico left the biggest piece of the puzzle out. 

    “While the FBI has failed to produce the specific document by the subpoena deadline, their offer to provide an accommodation process in response to our legitimate request indicates the document is real. So the question remains, what did the FBI do to investigate very serious allegations from an apparent trusted FBI source implicating then-Vice President Biden? Today’s letter from the FBI raises additional questions, including whether the FBI has an open investigation based on these allegations. The American people pay the FBI’s salaries, and they’re entitled to a fulsome response,” Grassley said.
     
    “It’s clear from the FBI’s response that the unclassified record the Oversight Committee subpoenaed exists, but they are refusing to provide it to the Committee. We’ve asked the FBI to not only provide this record, but to also inform us what it did to investigate these allegations. The FBI has failed to do both. The FBI’s position is ‘trust, but you aren’t allowed to verify.’ That is unacceptable. We plan to follow up with the FBI and expect compliance with the subpoena,” said Chairman Comer.
     
    Based on whistleblower disclosures, the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation possess an unclassified FD-1023 form that describes an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions. It has been alleged that the document includes a precise description of how the alleged criminal scheme was employed as well as its purpose.
    Once more, you're clearly misinformed.  The document that was subpoenaed is known as FD-1023.  It is, by definition, a statement of unverified accusation provided to the FBI.  It's UNVERIFIED.  So who made this report?  Obviously someone that Comer knows considering he said it "precisely" lays out a criminal scheme perpetrated by the Bidens.  It's pretty obvious how he knows about this precise scheme; it's because the 'whistleblower' that he's talking to is the one that made the UNVERIFIED report.  So Comer is going to take this unverified report and wave it around and declare it as evidence.  When it's nothing more than the same unverified accusations he has from this alleged whistleblower.  That's known in the world of logic and Excel spreadsheets as "circular reasoning". 

    And lest we forget what we learned about the last 'whistleblowers' that testified to the GOP congress.  Turns out they had no direct knowledge and were paid by a Trump campaign official.  So you'll forgive me for being skeptical about this latest charade.  

    https://www.newsweek.com/jim-jordan-fbi-whistleblowers-weaponization-committee-1785259

    Friend said that he received $5,000 from Patel's group. O'Boyle didn't share how much he received.

    Friend also testified that Patel had helped him get a new job after leaving the FBI by putting him in touch with the Center for Renewing America, where Friend is now a fellow on domestic intelligence and security.

  • RoleModelsinBlood31
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    Gern Blansten said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............


    Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

    If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  
    Exactly- no one will prosecute this.  They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?  
    When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
    No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions.  The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute.  The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion.  And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
    You know better than this. tRump controlled the DOJ for four years so don't act like he wouldn't have done something if he could. They had the fucking laptop and all that other bullshit under his dumbass reign.

    Of course nothing will come of this because it's bullshit. That is why no major news organization is even mentioning it. 
    You know why no major news org is covering it,  it’s not even fair discussion to act like they’d do a story on anything seriously negative to Joe. This has been shown - including fox and whatever else is right leaning-by minutes each of the networks spends on certain topics and has been beaten to death.  Flip it though and the world would be going cokadoodledandy over trump if Jr. was raking in millions and sitting on sketchy boards with sketchy people and making deals with foreign govts while trump was in office. Just a sketchy look and since it was sent though around 20 LLC’s it was without a doubt made really hard to investigate.

    Anyway as far as this is concerned I don’t expect anything to come from it. I learned my lesson watching the govt the last several years in who they choose to go after and who they don’t.  The fbi currently won’t even hand over subpoenaed docs a whistleblower says contain info about “an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions.”  It’s a 1023 form, whatever that is. But not turning things over during a “bullshit” investigation sounds like how Trump dealt with stuff, and I didn’t like it then either.  Smells funky.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,922
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............


    Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

    If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  
    Exactly- no one will prosecute this.  They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?  
    When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
    No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions.  The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute.  The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion.  And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
    You know better than this. tRump controlled the DOJ for four years so don't act like he wouldn't have done something if he could. They had the fucking laptop and all that other bullshit under his dumbass reign.

    Of course nothing will come of this because it's bullshit. That is why no major news organization is even mentioning it. 
    You know why no major news org is covering it,  it’s not even fair discussion to act like they’d do a story on anything seriously negative to Joe. This has been shown - including fox and whatever else is right leaning-by minutes each of the networks spends on certain topics and has been beaten to death.  Flip it though and the world would be going cokadoodledandy over trump if Jr. was raking in millions and sitting on sketchy boards with sketchy people and making deals with foreign govts while trump was in office. Just a sketchy look and since it was sent though around 20 LLC’s it was without a doubt made really hard to investigate.

    Anyway as far as this is concerned I don’t expect anything to come from it. I learned my lesson watching the govt the last several years in who they choose to go after and who they don’t.  The fbi currently won’t even hand over subpoenaed docs a whistleblower says contain info about “an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions.”  It’s a 1023 form, whatever that is. But not turning things over during a “bullshit” investigation sounds like how Trump dealt with stuff, and I didn’t like it then either.  Smells funky.
    'Seriously, read what I just posted.  I posted why that is nothing but a ruse.  The 1023 is an unverified accusation.  The accusation was made by the whistleblower that Comer has.  He knows what's on that document and he knows that it's unverified.  It's nonsense.  C'mon.  How many times are you going to fall for the same tricks?
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,244
    mrussel1 said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............


    Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

    If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  
    Exactly- no one will prosecute this.  They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?  
    When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
    No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions.  The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute.  The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion.  And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
    So he should be impeached for actions by his family that occurred before he took office?  
    Sure, why not? They’d have the votes.  Petty, sure, but why not?  Or go even more slash and burn style and first challenge the fbi to turn over the whistleblower doc by including their funding in the debt ceiling negotiations. Will they do it though? I really don’t know if they have it in them- they’re normally all talk and nothing comes from it
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just for a little balance in everyone's lives, here's a properly written article from Politico.  Sometimes it's important to have some actual, critical thinking skills.  

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/10/james-comer-biden-probe-00096067

    Comer releases Biden family probe update without showing link to president


    But the highly anticipated press conference also raised fresh questions about their ability to ultimately capture their white whale: the president himself. And Comer’s already faced plenty of doubt, including from some within his own party, that he can back up his promises to show Biden’s connection to family business dealings.

    No link has publicly emerged, and that didn’t change at Wednesday’s press conference.

    And while Republicans have criticized the payments as questionable, they stopped short of calling any of the activity potentially illegal.

    Properly written article, eh? Funny how it's missing the piece about the whistleblower and how Comer has asked the FBI to hand over the document that potentially shows the proof. What a fucking joke. 

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/comer-and-grassley-on-fbi-failing-to-comply-with-subpoena-deadline

    I won't believe anything until I see it and even then, we'll see if anything comes of it. Funny how Politico left the biggest piece of the puzzle out. 

    “While the FBI has failed to produce the specific document by the subpoena deadline, their offer to provide an accommodation process in response to our legitimate request indicates the document is real. So the question remains, what did the FBI do to investigate very serious allegations from an apparent trusted FBI source implicating then-Vice President Biden? Today’s letter from the FBI raises additional questions, including whether the FBI has an open investigation based on these allegations. The American people pay the FBI’s salaries, and they’re entitled to a fulsome response,” Grassley said.
     
    “It’s clear from the FBI’s response that the unclassified record the Oversight Committee subpoenaed exists, but they are refusing to provide it to the Committee. We’ve asked the FBI to not only provide this record, but to also inform us what it did to investigate these allegations. The FBI has failed to do both. The FBI’s position is ‘trust, but you aren’t allowed to verify.’ That is unacceptable. We plan to follow up with the FBI and expect compliance with the subpoena,” said Chairman Comer.
     
    Based on whistleblower disclosures, the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation possess an unclassified FD-1023 form that describes an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions. It has been alleged that the document includes a precise description of how the alleged criminal scheme was employed as well as its purpose.
    Once more, you're clearly misinformed.  The document that was subpoenaed is known as FD-1023.  It is, by definition, a statement of unverified accusation provided to the FBI.  It's UNVERIFIED.  So who made this report?  Obviously someone that Comer knows considering he said it "precisely" lays out a criminal scheme perpetrated by the Bidens.  It's pretty obvious how he knows about this precise scheme; it's because the 'whistleblower' that he's talking to is the one that made the UNVERIFIED report.  So Comer is going to take this unverified report and wave it around and declare it as evidence.  When it's nothing more than the same unverified accusations he has from this alleged whistleblower.  That's known in the world of logic and Excel spreadsheets as "circular reasoning". 

    And lest we forget what we learned about the last 'whistleblowers' that testified to the GOP congress.  Turns out they had no direct knowledge and were paid by a Trump campaign official.  So you'll forgive me for being skeptical about this latest charade.  

    https://www.newsweek.com/jim-jordan-fbi-whistleblowers-weaponization-committee-1785259

    Friend said that he received $5,000 from Patel's group. O'Boyle didn't share how much he received.

    Friend also testified that Patel had helped him get a new job after leaving the FBI by putting him in touch with the Center for Renewing America, where Friend is now a fellow on domestic intelligence and security.

    You're probably right. There's nothing to question about Joe or Hunter. Both are stand up guys that don't ever lie and have lived completely wholesome lives. I know a lot of crackhead loser pieces of shit that have been paid millions of dollars from foreign countries for doing absolutely nothing while providing zero services. 
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............


    Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

    If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  
    Exactly- no one will prosecute this.  They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?  
    When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
    No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions.  The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute.  The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion.  And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
    You know better than this. tRump controlled the DOJ for four years so don't act like he wouldn't have done something if he could. They had the fucking laptop and all that other bullshit under his dumbass reign.

    Of course nothing will come of this because it's bullshit. That is why no major news organization is even mentioning it. 
    You know why no major news org is covering it,  it’s not even fair discussion to act like they’d do a story on anything seriously negative to Joe. This has been shown - including fox and whatever else is right leaning-by minutes each of the networks spends on certain topics and has been beaten to death.  Flip it though and the world would be going cokadoodledandy over trump if Jr. was raking in millions and sitting on sketchy boards with sketchy people and making deals with foreign govts while trump was in office. Just a sketchy look and since it was sent though around 20 LLC’s it was without a doubt made really hard to investigate.

    Anyway as far as this is concerned I don’t expect anything to come from it. I learned my lesson watching the govt the last several years in who they choose to go after and who they don’t.  The fbi currently won’t even hand over subpoenaed docs a whistleblower says contain info about “an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions.”  It’s a 1023 form, whatever that is. But not turning things over during a “bullshit” investigation sounds like how Trump dealt with stuff, and I didn’t like it then either.  Smells funky.
    'Seriously, read what I just posted.  I posted why that is nothing but a ruse.  The 1023 is an unverified accusation.  The accusation was made by the whistleblower that Comer has.  He knows what's on that document and he knows that it's unverified.  It's nonsense.  C'mon.  How many times are you going to fall for the same tricks?
    We aren't falling for tricks. Both Roles and I have said we don't believe anything that Republicans tell us. Why can't we question why the FBI won't hand over the document and call it a day? If it truly is unverified and there's nothing to worry about, hand it over and be done with it. 

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