#46 President Joe Biden

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

I did not find the article obnoxious.  Pretty sure the kid is Hunter’s based on DNA testing.   Here is a CNN (hopefully on the list of AMT approved sources) article indicating that the child is Hunter’s and he does not dispute it.  

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/05/01/politics/hunter-biden-what-to-know/index.html

Not acknowledging your own grandchild seems pretty crappy to me unless there is a good reason.  I can’t think of any good reason other than the mother does not want him to do so.  

Yes, there are plenty of other ills in the world. But this is a Biden thread so I mistakenly thought it was relevant.  Will go to the Trump thread and watch SNL clips of the Trump kids getting made fun of over and over and over when they have never committed a crime or done anything as remotely as embarrassing as Hunter has.  

And this post of mine has nothing to do with Hunter and everything to do about President Biden, who on the whole seems like a decent person compared to other policiticians.

I think his not acknowledging this biological grandchild is because of the fact his son is currently in litigation with the mother, and he currently has no relationship with the child. He mentioned the grandchildren that grew up knowing him as a grandfather. 

I do think it's a very fair question to ask, however. as you mentioned several times, you aren't "bringing up hunter". 

You can ask anything you want.  But why does it matter to the country? 

It doesn't. 

strange. the way trump interacted (or didn't) with barron sure was relevant for quite some time here by several posters. 

I don't know if that's true or not, but what I know not to be true is that CNN and MSNBC didn't dedicated hours of coverage and web space to Barron.  

mrussel1

nicknyr15 said:

Is Bidens approval rating really the lowest out of any president at this point in their term? And is Trump really polling better than him? I don’t know what to believe when it comes to polls anymore 

That was one poll.  Could be an outlier.  The other polls over hte last several months show the opposite.  So you don't over react.  

HughFreakingDillon

nicknyr15 said:

Is Bidens approval rating really the lowest out of any president at this point in their term? And is Trump really polling better than him? I don’t know what to believe when it comes to polls anymore 

hard to know. I saw the same stats the other day. trump has a current 7 point lead over biden. 49 to 42. that's insane. 

nicknyr15

mrussel1 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Is Bidens approval rating really the lowest out of any president at this point in their term? And is Trump really polling better than him? I don’t know what to believe when it comes to polls anymore 

That was one poll.  Could be an outlier.  The other polls over hte last several months show the opposite.  So you don't over react.  

I saw a clip on cnn stating this. Maybe they’re overreacting and only focusing on that poll to get their base riled up and motivated?

HughFreakingDillon

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Is Bidens approval rating really the lowest out of any president at this point in their term? And is Trump really polling better than him? I don’t know what to believe when it comes to polls anymore 

That was one poll.  Could be an outlier.  The other polls over hte last several months show the opposite.  So you don't over react.  

I saw a clip on cnn stating this. Maybe they’re overreacting and only focusing on that poll to get their base riled up and motivated?

that was the other thing I'm wondering about. if the dems and liberal media are going to try to scare liberals into getting out to vote. but to start that this early would seem odd. 

mrussel1

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Is Bidens approval rating really the lowest out of any president at this point in their term? And is Trump really polling better than him? I don’t know what to believe when it comes to polls anymore 

That was one poll.  Could be an outlier.  The other polls over hte last several months show the opposite.  So you don't over react.  

I saw a clip on cnn stating this. Maybe they’re overreacting and only focusing on that poll to get their base riled up and motivated?

Maybe.  I mean it's news.  I think Biden is weak and that's an issue.  It is interesting how the public seems to be perceiving him.  I think overall he's actually done a pretty good job.  I am with him on Ukraine, inflation is abating, I'm good with his center left climate policies.  He gives the left some wins, and gives fossil fuels some wins.  I really don't have any big complaints.  

I read Fox News all the time.  That and the Hill are the two news sources that I use probably the most and the criticisms leveled against him on Fox are silly.  They are total misrepresentations or related to Hunter.  So even they are having a tough time hitting him with real issues, IMO. 

The Juggler

mrussel1 said:

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Is Bidens approval rating really the lowest out of any president at this point in their term? And is Trump really polling better than him? I don’t know what to believe when it comes to polls anymore 

That was one poll.  Could be an outlier.  The other polls over hte last several months show the opposite.  So you don't over react.  

I saw a clip on cnn stating this. Maybe they’re overreacting and only focusing on that poll to get their base riled up and motivated?

Maybe.  I mean it's news.  I think Biden is weak and that's an issue.  It is interesting how the public seems to be perceiving him.  I think overall he's actually done a pretty good job.  I am with him on Ukraine, inflation is abating, I'm good with his center left climate policies.  He gives the left some wins, and gives fossil fuels some wins.  I really don't have any big complaints.  

I read Fox News all the time.  That and the Hill are the two news sources that I use probably the most and the criticisms leveled against him on Fox are silly.  They are total misrepresentations or related to Hunter.  So even they are having a tough time hitting him with real issues, IMO. 

I think it's mostly the economy. Inflation is continuing to ease. Once that subsides further and people realize it, his numbers will go back up. 

And it is a dead heat between him and Trump. Once more and more people start paying attention to the sexual predator former president's criminal cases, Biden should pull ahead

OnWis97

If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.

The Juggler

OnWis97 said:

If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.

Hard disagree. 

mrussel1

OnWis97 said:

If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.

No, I don't know how you say that.  2016 was the aberration, not 2020.  The blue firewall was back.  And there's nothing in the demos of GA and AZ that says they are headed back Red.  

OnWis97

The Juggler said:

OnWis97 said:

If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.

Hard disagree. 

We're talking about a guy that's less popular than Trump ever was. I'm not really sure why. I think he's neither great nor terrible, myself.

One thing that could happen is that two very unpopular guys could give a third party an opportunity to play spoiler. I don't see Biden vs. Trump part II making a lot of people very happy about the choices (then again that was true of the last two elections).

TJ25487

Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............

Biden family received millions from foreign nationals, tried to conceal source of funds: House Oversight

House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer is investigating the Biden family's 'influence peddling and business schemes'

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It's going to be judgment day for the Biden administration: Rep. James Comer

The House Oversight and Accountability Committee says the Biden family and its business associates created more than 20 companies and received more than $10 million from foreign nationals while Joe Biden served as vice president, and that some of these payments could indicate attempts by the Biden family to "peddle influence."

Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., released a memo ahead of his press conference Wednesday that includes new information from his investigation into the Biden family’s "influence peddling and business schemes." The memo said the Biden family appeared to take steps to "conceal the source and total amount received from the foreign companies."

The committee has subpoenaed four different banks as part of its probe and received "thousands of records in response." Those subpoenas were "tailored to specific individuals and companies that engaged in business activities with Biden family members and their business associates," the memo said.

It said Biden family members and business associates "created a web of over 20 companies — most were limited liability companies formed during Joe Biden’s vice presidency."

SIX ADDITIONAL BIDEN FAMILY MEMBERS 'MAY HAVE BENEFITED' FROM HUNTER BUSINESS DEALINGS

The committee said those companies were formed mostly in Delaware and Washington, D.C., with the help of Hunter Biden’s business partners Rob Walker and James Gilliar.

"After assuming the vice presidency in 2009, records reveal Hunter Biden and his business associates formed at least 15 companies," the memo said. Those companies include Lion Hall Group LLC; Owasco P.C.; Robinson Walker, LLC; Skaneateles, LLC; Seneca Global Advisors, LLC; Rosemont Seneca Partners, LLC; Rosemont Seneca Principal Investments LLC; Rosemont Seneca Bohai, LLC; Hudson West III, LLC; Hudson West V, LLC; CEFC Infrastructure Investment (US) and others.

"Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ companies," the memo said, adding that the committee identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies "while Joe Biden served as Vice President and after he left public office."

"[T]he Biden family used business associates’ companies to receive millions of dollars from foreign companies," the memo said, adding that the Biden family "received incremental payments over time to different bank accounts."

EXCLUSIVE: WHITE HOUSE SLAMS COMER, ACCUSES GOP OF CONDUCTING ‘EVIDENCE-FREE’ PROBE INTO BIDEN FAMILY

President Biden, left, and his son Hunter Biden, right. (NICHOLAS KAMM/AFP via Getty Images)

"In some instances, Biden associates would receive significant deposits from foreign sources into their bank accounts and then transfer smaller, incremental payments to Biden bank accounts," the memo said. "These complicated and seemingly unnecessary financial transactions appear to be a concerted effort to conceal the source and total amount received from the foreign companies."

It said Chinese nationals and companies "with significant ties to Chinese intelligence and the Chinese Communist Party hid the source of the funds by layering domestic limited liability companies."

The committee says it is investigating "the opaque corporate structure of particular Biden-affiliated companies, those companies’ complicated connections with each other, whether these companies maintained books and records, and why certain foreign nationals sought to partner with and engage in businesses with specific Biden family members and their companies."

It said it already sees signs that the Biden family may have collected money from foreign nationals trying to influence U.S. policy. For example, the committee said it discovered that Hunter Biden, through his associate Rob Walker, received more than $1 million from a foreign company reportedly controlled by Gabriel Popoviciu, the subject of a criminal probe and prosecution for corruption in Romania. Then-Vice President Biden met with Romanian leaders in 2014 and 2015 "regarding corruption in the country."

HUNTER BIDEN IN 2017 EXTENDED 'BEST WISHES' FROM THE 'ENTIRE BIDEN FAMILY' TO CHAIRMAN OF CHINESE ENERGY FIRM, REQUESTS $10 MILLION WIRE

President Biden departs the White House on Jan. 19, 2023 in Washington, D.C. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)

"The committee is concerned about the Biden family’s pattern of courting business in regions of the world in which the then Vice President had an outsize role and influenced U.S. policy," the memo said. "The Biden family and associates’ activities in Romania bear clear indica of a scheme to peddle influence from 2015-2017."

The committee said it found that in addition to Hunter Biden, James Gilliar and Rob Walker receiving foreign funds, James Biden, Hallie Biden and "other Bidens" also received "foreign payments."

The memo included a breakdown of the transactions from Chinese and Romanian nationals and companies.

Specifically, with regard to China, the memo points to two people —Ye Jianming and Gongwen Dong – and warned that particular Chinese business venture posed "potential threats to American national security." Both people were connected to Hunter Biden’s joint-venture with Chinese energy company CEFC.

HUNTER BIDEN UNDER FEDERAL INVESTIGATION FOR 'TAX AFFAIRS,' LINKS TO CHINA FUNDS EMERGE, SOURCES SAY

President Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, step off Air Force One, Saturday, Feb. 4, 2023, at Hancock Field Air National Guard Base in Syracuse, New York. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)

The memo said Ye had "close ties to the highest levels of the Chinese Communist Party and was reportedly deputy secretary-general for an international outreach arm of the People’s Liberation Army." Ye was later detained by the CCP in 2018.

"The Bidens received millions of dollars from their Chinese partnership," the memo said. "When Ye was detained by the Chinese, Hunter Biden then attempted to distance himself from the relationship by claiming he had never been paid by CEFC. This was false."

The memo said Hunter’s company, Hudson West V, received a $24 million wire from Ye. CEFC later wired $100,000 to Hunter’s Owasco, P.C. 

BIDEN WROTE COLLEGE RECOMMENDATION LETTER FOR SON OF HUNTER'S CHINESE BUSINESS PARTNER, EMAILS REVEAL

A Senate report from 2020 said that on Aug. 8, 2017, CEFC wired nearly $5 million to the bank account for Hudson West III, a firm that Hunter Biden opened with Chinese associates.

Representative James Comer, a Republican from Kentucky and chairman of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, speaks during a hearing in Washington, D.C., Wednesday, Feb. 8, 2023. House Republicans plan to grill former Twitter executives over their alleged cooperation with the FBI to squelch the story of Hunter Biden's laptop, the opening salvo in their probe into the Biden family finances. (Anna Rose Layden/Bloomberg via Getty Images)

Fox News Digital first reported in 2020 that Hunter Biden had requested that keys be made for his new "office mates," listing his father, Jill Biden and his uncle, Jim Biden, for space he planned to share with Gongwen.

"The Biden family and associates’ activities in coordination with Chinese nationals and their corporate entities appear to be an attempt to engage in financial deception," the memo said, adding that "multiple Biden family members received money from the Chinese after it passed through the Robinson Walker, LLC account."

"Additionally, Hunter Biden received money directly into his company’s account from a Chinese-controlled entity," the memo adds.

"The Committee will continue to engage in the accommodations process with those who have not cooperated with our investigation," the memo said. "The Committee plans to gather additional bank records in the near future and continue following the money trail."

HUNTER BIDEN BUSINESS ASSOCIATE'S TEXT MESSAGES INDICATE MEETING WITH JOE BIDEN

Hunter Biden introduces his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden in 2016.

"The Committee is committed to rooting out fraud, waste, and abuse that exist at the highest level of the federal government," it added.

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The White House has slammed the committee’s investigation as "evidence-free" and "politically motivated." The White House has also maintained that President Biden has never been involved in his son’s business dealings.

Fox News' Kelly Phares contributed to this report.

The Juggler

OnWis97 said:

The Juggler said:

OnWis97 said:

If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.

Hard disagree. 

We're talking about a guy that's less popular than Trump ever was. I'm not really sure why. I think he's neither great nor terrible, myself.

One thing that could happen is that two very unpopular guys could give a third party an opportunity to play spoiler. I don't see Biden vs. Trump part II making a lot of people very happy about the choices (then again that was true of the last two elections).

Not sure where you are getting that from. Despite poor numbers, his approval rating right now is higher than Trump's at this stage in his presidency and his approval ceiling is10 points higher that Trump's too.

I agree that most people are not going to be happy with either of them as the nominee. But way more people will still come out and vote against Trump and against Biden. Trump's numbers are only going to get worse as his indictments continue to roll in. The economy will dictate Biden's, but I have a feeling things will turn around on that front later in the year. 

The Juggler

TJ25487 said:

Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............

You get your "news" from an oganization who just forked over almost a billion dollars for lying to it's viewers for a solid two years. Do better, TJ.

Also, folks this right here^^....is another reason why Trump won't win. Nobody but his 30% base cares about this shit. 

mrussel1

TJ25487 said:

Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............

Hi.  Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article?  Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source.  That's not a crime.  Comer said it may be influence peddling.  That's not an actual crime.  So tell me what the crime is?  

If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now.  It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.  

Merkin Baller

TJ25487 said:

Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............

Supposition: 

sup·po·si·tion

noun

1. an uncertain belief

Halifax2TheMax

Please, show us the quid pro quo. Specific payment resulted in X policy, policy reversal, or some other thing of value. Brandon was VP from 2009 to 2017. Where was the repub congress then or AG Bill DISbarred through 2021? Oh yea, Hillary mesmerized him.

Is it time to bump the Indictments Incoming thread? Again?

tbergs

The Juggler said:

OnWis97 said:

The Juggler said:

OnWis97 said:

If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.

Hard disagree. 

We're talking about a guy that's less popular than Trump ever was. I'm not really sure why. I think he's neither great nor terrible, myself.

One thing that could happen is that two very unpopular guys could give a third party an opportunity to play spoiler. I don't see Biden vs. Trump part II making a lot of people very happy about the choices (then again that was true of the last two elections).

Not sure where you are getting that from. Despite poor numbers, his approval rating right now is higher than Trump's at this stage in his presidency and his approval ceiling is10 points higher that Trump's too.

I agree that most people are not going to be happy with either of them as the nominee. But way more people will still come out and vote against Trump and against Biden. Trump's numbers are only going to get worse as his indictments continue to roll in. The economy will dictate Biden's, but I have a feeling things will turn around on that front later in the year. 

I think it's funny that you mention Trump's numbers are only going to get worse once the indictments keep rolling in. They should, but they won't. That's been the belief for 7 years already.

Once the Access Hollywood tape is out...
Once the Mueller report is out...
Once the Stormy case comes forward...
Once he is impeached...
Once the insurrection attempt...
Once the rape allegation....
Once he is indicted...

While some of these may have mattered enough to lose him a few votes over the years, he could still get 70 million plus people to vote for him, so really, these things don't matter to a majority of conservative voters. And then their one possible issue with Biden is just too much and he is destroying the country. Give me a break. What bullshit.

The Juggler

tbergs said:

The Juggler said:

OnWis97 said:

The Juggler said:

OnWis97 said:

If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.

Hard disagree. 

We're talking about a guy that's less popular than Trump ever was. I'm not really sure why. I think he's neither great nor terrible, myself.

One thing that could happen is that two very unpopular guys could give a third party an opportunity to play spoiler. I don't see Biden vs. Trump part II making a lot of people very happy about the choices (then again that was true of the last two elections).

Not sure where you are getting that from. Despite poor numbers, his approval rating right now is higher than Trump's at this stage in his presidency and his approval ceiling is10 points higher that Trump's too.

I agree that most people are not going to be happy with either of them as the nominee. But way more people will still come out and vote against Trump and against Biden. Trump's numbers are only going to get worse as his indictments continue to roll in. The economy will dictate Biden's, but I have a feeling things will turn around on that front later in the year. 

I think it's funny that you mention Trump's numbers are only going to get worse once the indictments keep rolling in. They should, but they won't. That's been the belief for 7 years already.

Once the Access Hollywood tape is out...
Once the Mueller report is out...
Once the Stormy case comes forward...
Once he is impeached...
Once the insurrection attempt...
Once the rape allegation....
Once he is indicted...

While some of these may have mattered enough to lose him a few votes over the years, he could still get 70 million plus people to vote for him, so really, these things don't matter to a majority of conservative voters. And then their one possible issue with Biden is just too much and he is destroying the country. Give me a break. What bullshit.

That would be 4 million less than 2020. That's my point. I am not saying he's going to plummet in the polls. Far from it. Conservatives will vote for him no matter what. Moderates swing elections and they were turned off in 2018 and 2020. I don't see that changing next year especially when they start paying more attention. 

mace1229

If Trump ran against Biden today, I think both parties would be asking, really, this is the best we got?