#46 President Joe Biden

mace1229

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

Merkin Baller

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

Tell me how we fix it by next year. 

I'm all ears. 

mace1229

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

Tell me how we fix it by next year. 

I'm all ears. 

vote.

GOP hasn't had their primary yet.
Are the Dems even going to have one?

Merkin Baller

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

Tell me how we fix it by next year. 

I'm all ears. 

vote.

GOP hasn't had their primary yet.
Are the Dems even going to have one?

I vote every chance I get. 

Any other suggestions? 

Gern Blansten

I can tell you that GenZ will vote for Biden. They want someone younger but they won't vote for a republican.

My opinion....the majority of GenZ will not vote GOP. This seems to be holding up in recent elections.

Merkin Baller

Gern Blansten said:

I can tell you that GenZ will vote for Biden. They want someone younger but they won't vote for a republican.

My opinion....the majority of GenZ will not vote GOP. This seems to be holding up in recent elections.

& we're going to need all those votes going the same way, because we know god damn well the republicans are all going to show up to vote for their guy (they always do) and their guy will be trump.  

& if 2024 is close, it will be January 6th all over again, probably worse. 

mace1229

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

Tell me how we fix it by next year. 

I'm all ears. 

vote.

GOP hasn't had their primary yet.
Are the Dems even going to have one?

I vote every chance I get. 

Any other suggestions? 

Not really.

I'm just saying they're only in office because we keep voting them in office.
When you said "there's fuck all" we can do about it makes it sound inevitable. Well, its only this way because the majority of people want it this way. 

I don't get it either. I don't see why Trump or Biden would be at the top of anyone's list. But apparently that's what most people want in a candidate I guess.

Merkin Baller

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

Tell me how we fix it by next year. 

I'm all ears. 

vote.

GOP hasn't had their primary yet.
Are the Dems even going to have one?

I vote every chance I get. 

Any other suggestions? 

Not really.

I'm just saying they're only in office because we keep voting them in office.
When you said "there's fuck all" we can do about it makes it sound inevitable. Well, its only this way because the majority of people want it this way. 

I don't get it either. I don't see why Trump or Biden would be at the top of anyone's list. But apparently that's what most people want in a candidate I guess.

Oh I don't know... I see the appeal with trump for a lot of Americans. He hate's all the right people and there's no shortage of Americans who would rather burn this country down than share it with the people they don't like. 

I don't love Biden, but he's adequate and can beat trump. Unfortunately, that's enough for me (& a lot of other people too) 

The Juggler

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

I can tell you that GenZ will vote for Biden. They want someone younger but they won't vote for a republican.

My opinion....the majority of GenZ will not vote GOP. This seems to be holding up in recent elections.

& we're going to need all those votes going the same way, because we know god damn well the republicans are all going to show up to vote for their guy (they always do) and their guy will be trump.  

& if 2024 is close, it will be January 6th all over again, probably worse. 

But elections are rigged. They would be better off just staying home. Because elections are rigged. 

gimmesometruth27

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

maybe you are not in a majority?

Merkin Baller

The Juggler said:

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

I can tell you that GenZ will vote for Biden. They want someone younger but they won't vote for a republican.

My opinion....the majority of GenZ will not vote GOP. This seems to be holding up in recent elections.

& we're going to need all those votes going the same way, because we know god damn well the republicans are all going to show up to vote for their guy (they always do) and their guy will be trump.  

& if 2024 is close, it will be January 6th all over again, probably worse. 

But elections are rigged. They would be better off just staying home. Because elections are rigged. 

That may be a funny side effect to tfg's election fraud claims... I can't cite any sources off the top of my head, but I seem to recall some conservative pundits complaining that not enough conservatives got out to vote last November for that very reason... which is all sorts of fucking hilarious. 

mace1229

gimmesometruth27 said:

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

maybe you are not in a majority?

Never said I was. Clearly the ones with the most votes and support are the oldest candidates. I'd prefer someone younger. Doesn't have to be young, but not in their 80s. Based on the last election, and prediction of the next one, I am in the minority.

mrussel1

mace1229 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

maybe you are not in a majority?

Never said I was. Clearly the ones with the most votes and support are the oldest candidates. I'd prefer someone younger. Doesn't have to be young, but not in their 80s. Based on the last election, and prediction of the next one, I am in the minority.

You're not going to unseat a president running for re-election.  I think if Biden wasn't currently the president, he would have a difficult time winning the nomination this round.  I am pretty good with the D bench right now.  I think we'll be in good shape come '28.  

The last campaign had too many candidates that were either too far left, or had a major issue.  Biden was my choice because the other choices were annoying.  

gimmesometruth27

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

maybe you are not in a majority?

Never said I was. Clearly the ones with the most votes and support are the oldest candidates. I'd prefer someone younger. Doesn't have to be young, but not in their 80s. Based on the last election, and prediction of the next one, I am in the minority.

You're not going to unseat a president running for re-election.  I think if Biden wasn't currently the president, he would have a difficult time winning the nomination this round.  I am pretty good with the D bench right now.  I think we'll be in good shape come '28.  

The last campaign had too many candidates that were either too far left, or had a major issue.  Biden was my choice because the other choices were annoying.  

after trump, anyone with a "major issue" has pretty wide lattitude in the gop. not with the dems though. dems will throw people out of the party for doing a fraction of what trump has done.

mace1229

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

maybe you are not in a majority?

Never said I was. Clearly the ones with the most votes and support are the oldest candidates. I'd prefer someone younger. Doesn't have to be young, but not in their 80s. Based on the last election, and prediction of the next one, I am in the minority.

You're not going to unseat a president running for re-election.  I think if Biden wasn't currently the president, he would have a difficult time winning the nomination this round.  I am pretty good with the D bench right now.  I think we'll be in good shape come '28.  

The last campaign had too many candidates that were either too far left, or had a major issue.  Biden was my choice because the other choices were annoying.  

Most years I would completely agree. But I think this is different. I think most people assumed Biden would not run for reelection. I'm pretty sure his campaign or advisors even said so at least once too. The oldest president before was Regan, and he was 73 when elected I think. He will have almost 10 years on Regan by the election. So its not unreasonable to think some trends may be broken and have a new candidate.
It doesn't appear that will happen, but a while ago I thought it would.

The Juggler

mace1229 said:

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mace1229 said:

Its only our reality because its not who we voted for.
You said there's nothing we can do about it, we're stuck with old people. We're only stuck with old people because that's what we voted for.  Only the people we elect hold office. 

I don't know why Biden has the lead in polls, I would think the majority would want someone new and younger in there.
I have no idea why Trump is in the lead. I would also think they'd want someone new, younger, and no indicted in there. 

But its what we keep voting for.

maybe you are not in a majority?

Never said I was. Clearly the ones with the most votes and support are the oldest candidates. I'd prefer someone younger. Doesn't have to be young, but not in their 80s. Based on the last election, and prediction of the next one, I am in the minority.

You're not going to unseat a president running for re-election.  I think if Biden wasn't currently the president, he would have a difficult time winning the nomination this round.  I am pretty good with the D bench right now.  I think we'll be in good shape come '28.  

The last campaign had too many candidates that were either too far left, or had a major issue.  Biden was my choice because the other choices were annoying.  

Most years I would completely agree. But I think this is different. I think most people assumed Biden would not run for reelection. I'm pretty sure his campaign or advisors even said so at least once too. The oldest president before was Regan, and he was 73 when elected I think. He will have almost 10 years on Regan by the election. So its not unreasonable to think some trends may be broken and have a new candidate.
It doesn't appear that will happen, but a while ago I thought it would.

I don't think most people assumed he would not run again. People may have hoped that to be the case though.

If Trump wasn't running, I think the odds of Biden not running would have increased. But he's beaten him once and likely has the best odds of beating  him again. 

mrussel1

I think it's nuts that he wants the fucking job. 

The Juggler

mrussel1 said:

I think it's nuts that he wants the fucking job. 

I am approaching 45 and cannot wait to retire. Can you imagine having THAT job at 70/80 years old? Fucking ridiculous. 

Out of My Mind and Time

Halifax2TheMax

Out of My Mind and Time said:

And insurrections are tourist visits, traitors are persecuted white Christian nationalists and twice impeached POOTWH’s with 3 criminal investigations and a civil rape trial swirling is a viable repub front runner for POTUS.