Actually pardoning the J6 people is not corruption but something worse. Insidious? Not sure what word I'd use. But I think it's very dumb to lump that in with Hunter.
Like Joe pardoning Hunter is extremely low and scuzzy for a President but if Trump blanket pardons J6 people that's another level down. But still does not make Biden scuzziness fine by comparison.
Just a baldly corrupt move by Biden and just another pebble that helps explain why things went the way they did if Democrats are actually looking to understand it
Was trump's pardon of Kushner corrupt?
If he pardons the J6 criminals...will that be corrupt?
Yes/Definitely yes
that's fair
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Actually pardoning the J6 people is not corruption but something worse. Insidious? Not sure what word I'd use. But I think it's very dumb to lump that in with Hunter.
Like Joe pardoning Hunter is extremely low and scuzzy for a President but if Trump blanket pardons J6 people that's another level down. But still does not make Biden scuzziness fine by comparison.
Buddy, you better buckle up. Corruption like this country has never seen before is in store for the next four years.
He did it to protect him from the incoming revenge tour. Logic tells me he absolutely would not have pardoned him had this happened 20 years ago.
That's an extremely Trumpy excuse. Like I would say about a couple of the Trump cases, sometimes "they" are going after you because you have committed crimes and should be held to account.
Actually pardoning the J6 people is not corruption but something worse. Insidious? Not sure what word I'd use. But I think it's very dumb to lump that in with Hunter.
Like Joe pardoning Hunter is extremely low and scuzzy for a President but if Trump blanket pardons J6 people that's another level down. But still does not make Biden scuzziness fine by comparison.
I get it...but to me it's night and day. You've got a guy coming into power that is corrupt and power hungry. He has made threats against reporters, entire news networks, politicians, etc.
It would have been stupid for Biden to leave any chance of trump going after Hunter.
I do believe that anything trump might have been able to do would be worthless but it would still be a case where the US Gov't is footing a massive amount of expenses that are unnecessary. And of course Hunter would have massive attorney fees to defend himself against whatever bullshit trump wanted to invent.
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He did it to protect him from the incoming revenge tour. Logic tells me he absolutely would not have pardoned him had this happened 20 years ago.
That's an extremely Trumpy excuse. Like I would say about a couple of the Trump cases, sometimes "they" are going after you because you have committed crimes and should be held to account.
in trump's world, saying that would be false just to rile up his idiots. In biden's world, it's absofuckinglutely plausible and not worth the risk.
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He did it to protect him from the incoming revenge tour. Logic tells me he absolutely would not have pardoned him had this happened 20 years ago.
That's an extremely Trumpy excuse. Like I would say about a couple of the Trump cases, sometimes "they" are going after you because you have committed crimes and should be held to account.
in trump's world, saying that would be false just to rile up his idiots. In biden's world, it's absofuckinglutely plausible and not worth the risk.
yeah trump is willing to spend millions to make himself look like the victim and/or the hero. He doesn't give two shits about the cost.
Just like he will likely explode the deficit again by trying to fool magats into thinking he knows what the fuck he's doing.
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Put trump in Biden's shoes....he would have been whining and crying every fucking day about how unfair the DOJ was being against his son. He would have been making a bunch of insane threats, etc.
Biden never said a fucking thing.
Well Biden said he wouldn’t pardon him, as did his press secretary on multiple occasions, but now he has pardoned him. So why would he whine about the DOJ being unfair during the investigation when he knew all along he was going to pardon him?
Doesn’t help that he specifically said he wouldn’t pardon him either. Throwing up an easy lay up to magas
Yeah the optics are bad but he did let the process play out. But fuck...trump says that he will pardon the J6 criminals and the magats were proud to vote for that so fuck them.
He only let the process play out to see if a pardon wasn't needed. If he got a good deal or not guilty verdict, etc. I always believed he was going to pardon him after the election.
Plenty of people get the IRS fine and still face charges. Happens all the time. Paying back what you stole from the government doesn't erase the crime. Now I don't think he deserved hard prison time. But pardoning him before even the sentence was handed down after stating he would not pardon him is definitely a bad look. He avoided taxes, turned in a fraud tax return and lied to buy a gun. How exactly was Hunter being treated unfairly by being charged for things he admitted to doing? Because he said "sorry" and wrote a book about it its unfair he's now charged?
because the charges came AFTER he had already dealt with it in the case of the taxes...the gun charge was all they could find and it was pretty lame if you ask me. They just had to find something...ironic that the pro gun party charged him with that.
My understand is charges and fines/penbalities are not related. The IRS will issue payment with fees for any amount owed. Most of the time it could be a mistake, but fees are still owed. The IRS doesn't press charges. If there was fraud determined, then the DOJ can press charges. Paying fees on skipped taxes does not exempt you from charges. Not paying $1.5 million in taxes is kinda a big deal, people have and do go to prison for less.
I don't disagree with that but the reason the charges came was due to the special counsel that Biden agreed to not interfere with. They knew that the IRS had issue with some of his tax returns which had already been dealt with. The charges that came about related to those would NOT have been charged without the special counsel trying to find SOMETHING to charge him with.
The IRS charges tax plus penalties and interest. The penalties can be severe if you don't file and owe a lot. It sounded to me like Hunter was taking "loans" from his business rather than payroll. The IRS basically said you can't do that and reclassified the loans as compensation.
So Hunter got tagged with doing what the wealthy do (income vs loans) but since he wasn't wealthy enough, got screwed by the IRS.
Doesn’t help that he specifically said he wouldn’t pardon him either. Throwing up an easy lay up to magas
Yeah the optics are bad but he did let the process play out. But fuck...trump says that he will pardon the J6 criminals and the magats were proud to vote for that so fuck them.
He only let the process play out to see if a pardon wasn't needed. If he got a good deal or not guilty verdict, etc. I always believed he was going to pardon him after the election.
Plenty of people get the IRS fine and still face charges. Happens all the time. Paying back what you stole from the government doesn't erase the crime. Now I don't think he deserved hard prison time. But pardoning him before even the sentence was handed down after stating he would not pardon him is definitely a bad look. He avoided taxes, turned in a fraud tax return and lied to buy a gun. How exactly was Hunter being treated unfairly by being charged for things he admitted to doing? Because he said "sorry" and wrote a book about it its unfair he's now charged?
because the charges came AFTER he had already dealt with it in the case of the taxes...the gun charge was all they could find and it was pretty lame if you ask me. They just had to find something...ironic that the pro gun party charged him with that.
My understand is charges and fines/penbalities are not related. The IRS will issue payment with fees for any amount owed. Most of the time it could be a mistake, but fees are still owed. The IRS doesn't press charges. If there was fraud determined, then the DOJ can press charges. Paying fees on skipped taxes does not exempt you from charges. Not paying $1.5 million in taxes is kinda a big deal, people have and do go to prison for less.
Yes, like Charlie Kushner. Well...that was actually more. Alot more.
I don't think he should have bene pardoned either. But he was pardoned after he served his sentence and was released from jail. A little meaningless and a bit different from a blanket pardon from all crimes before he was even sentenced. I just saw he was an ambassador pick too. Not a fan of that move either.
I was addressing the political aspect of the pardon.
Kushners crime was completely legitimate, or as Christie called it, the most "loathesome" crime he ever prosecuted. Hunter needed a special counsel and a recanting of a plea deal, and likely would not have been prosecuted had he not been the presidents son.
Put trump in Biden's shoes....he would have been whining and crying every fucking day about how unfair the DOJ was being against his son. He would have been making a bunch of insane threats, etc.
Biden never said a fucking thing.
Well Biden said he wouldn’t pardon him, as did his press secretary on multiple occasions, but now he has pardoned him. So why would he whine about the DOJ being unfair during the investigation when he knew all along he was going to pardon him?
Why do you think he knew all along he was going to pardon him?
Perhaps it was the nomination of this complete and utter stooge, Kash Patel, who has said repeatedly over the last few years that the next Trump admin would specifically target Biden's son?
nice use of what could easily be a fuckstickism....
Yeah.....at this point, I'm like fuck it. Everyone seems to be clutching their pearls on social media over this. Who fucking cares? These were bullshit charges. Everyone knows it.
It would have been better if he just didn't talk about instead of saying he wouldn't pardon him.......but clearly Trump is putting together a clown show cabinet intent on bullshit retaliation. Things have changed....so fuck it. Go ahead and give yourself a blanket pardon while you're at it Joe. lol.
talk in those spaces , or rather a pointed suggestion, that biden pardon every known or suspected target of fucksticks ire....
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Like Joe pardoning Hunter is extremely low and scuzzy for a President but if Trump blanket pardons J6 people that's another level down. But still does not make Biden scuzziness fine by comparison.
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It would have been stupid for Biden to leave any chance of trump going after Hunter.
I do believe that anything trump might have been able to do would be worthless but it would still be a case where the US Gov't is footing a massive amount of expenses that are unnecessary. And of course Hunter would have massive attorney fees to defend himself against whatever bullshit trump wanted to invent.
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Just like he will likely explode the deficit again by trying to fool magats into thinking he knows what the fuck he's doing.
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So Hunter got tagged with doing what the wealthy do (income vs loans) but since he wasn't wealthy enough, got screwed by the IRS.
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I was addressing the political aspect of the pardon.
Kushners crime was completely legitimate, or as Christie called it, the most "loathesome" crime he ever prosecuted. Hunter needed a special counsel and a recanting of a plea deal, and likely would not have been prosecuted had he not been the presidents son.
https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/
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Perhaps it was the nomination of this complete and utter stooge, Kash Patel, who has said repeatedly over the last few years that the next Trump admin would specifically target Biden's son?
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talk in those spaces , or rather a pointed suggestion, that biden pardon every known or suspected target of fucksticks ire....
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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