If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.
Hard disagree.
We're talking about a guy that's less popular than Trump ever was. I'm not really sure why. I think he's neither great nor terrible, myself.
One thing that could happen is that two very unpopular guys could give a third party an opportunity to play spoiler. I don't see Biden vs. Trump part II making a lot of people very happy about the choices (then again that was true of the last two elections).
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The House Oversight and Accountability Committee says the Biden family and its business associates created more than 20 companies and received more than $10 million from foreign nationals while Joe Biden served as vice president, and that some of these payments could indicate attempts by the Biden family to "peddle influence."
Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., released a memo ahead of his press conference Wednesday that includes new information from his investigation into the Biden family’s "influence peddling and business schemes." The memo said the Biden family appeared to take steps to "conceal the source and total amount received from the foreign companies."
The committee has subpoenaed four different banks as part of its probe and received "thousands of records in response." Those subpoenas were "tailored to specific individuals and companies that engaged in business activities with Biden family members and their business associates," the memo said.
It said Biden family members and business associates "created a web of over 20 companies — most were limited liability companies formed during Joe Biden’s vice presidency."
The committee said those companies were formed mostly in Delaware and Washington, D.C., with the help of Hunter Biden’s business partners Rob Walker and James Gilliar.
"After assuming the vice presidency in 2009, records reveal Hunter Biden and his business associates formed at least 15 companies," the memo said. Those companies include Lion Hall Group LLC; Owasco P.C.; Robinson Walker, LLC; Skaneateles, LLC; Seneca Global Advisors, LLC; Rosemont Seneca Partners, LLC; Rosemont Seneca Principal Investments LLC; Rosemont Seneca Bohai, LLC; Hudson West III, LLC; Hudson West V, LLC; CEFC Infrastructure Investment (US) and others.
"Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ companies," the memo said, adding that the committee identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies "while Joe Biden served as Vice President and after he left public office."
"[T]he Biden family used business associates’ companies to receive millions of dollars from foreign companies," the memo said, adding that the Biden family "received incremental payments over time to different bank accounts."
President Biden, left, and his son Hunter Biden, right. (NICHOLAS KAMM/AFP via Getty Images)
"In some instances, Biden associates would receive significant deposits from foreign sources into their bank accounts and then transfer smaller, incremental payments to Biden bank accounts," the memo said. "These complicated and seemingly unnecessary financial transactions appear to be a concerted effort to conceal the source and total amount received from the foreign companies."
It said Chinese nationals and companies "with significant ties to Chinese intelligence and the Chinese Communist Party hid the source of the funds by layering domestic limited liability companies."
The committee says it is investigating "the opaque corporate structure of particular Biden-affiliated companies, those companies’ complicated connections with each other, whether these companies maintained books and records, and why certain foreign nationals sought to partner with and engage in businesses with specific Biden family members and their companies."
It said it already sees signs that the Biden family may have collected money from foreign nationals trying to influence U.S. policy. For example, the committee said it discovered that Hunter Biden, through his associate Rob Walker, received more than $1 million from a foreign company reportedly controlled by Gabriel Popoviciu, the subject of a criminal probe and prosecution for corruption in Romania. Then-Vice President Biden met with Romanian leaders in 2014 and 2015 "regarding corruption in the country."
President Biden departs the White House on Jan. 19, 2023 in Washington, D.C. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
"The committee is concerned about the Biden family’s pattern of courting business in regions of the world in which the then Vice President had an outsize role and influenced U.S. policy," the memo said. "The Biden family and associates’ activities in Romania bear clear indica of a scheme to peddle influence from 2015-2017."
The committee said it found that in addition to Hunter Biden, James Gilliar and Rob Walker receiving foreign funds, James Biden, Hallie Biden and "other Bidens" also received "foreign payments."
The memo included a breakdown of the transactions from Chinese and Romanian nationals and companies.
Specifically, with regard to China, the memo points to two people —Ye Jianming and Gongwen Dong – and warned that particular Chinese business venture posed "potential threats to American national security." Both people were connected to Hunter Biden’s joint-venture with Chinese energy company CEFC.
President Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, step off Air Force One, Saturday, Feb. 4, 2023, at Hancock Field Air National Guard Base in Syracuse, New York. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)
The memo said Ye had "close ties to the highest levels of the Chinese Communist Party and was reportedly deputy secretary-general for an international outreach arm of the People’s Liberation Army." Ye was later detained by the CCP in 2018.
"The Bidens received millions of dollars from their Chinese partnership," the memo said. "When Ye was detained by the Chinese, Hunter Biden then attempted to distance himself from the relationship by claiming he had never been paid by CEFC. This was false."
The memo said Hunter’s company, Hudson West V, received a $24 million wire from Ye. CEFC later wired $100,000 to Hunter’s Owasco, P.C.
A Senate report from 2020 said that on Aug. 8, 2017, CEFC wired nearly $5 million to the bank account for Hudson West III, a firm that Hunter Biden opened with Chinese associates.
Representative James Comer, a Republican from Kentucky and chairman of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, speaks during a hearing in Washington, D.C., Wednesday, Feb. 8, 2023. House Republicans plan to grill former Twitter executives over their alleged cooperation with the FBI to squelch the story of Hunter Biden's laptop, the opening salvo in their probe into the Biden family finances. (Anna Rose Layden/Bloomberg via Getty Images)
Fox News Digital first reported in 2020 that Hunter Biden had requested that keys be made for his new "office mates," listing his father, Jill Biden and his uncle, Jim Biden, for space he planned to share with Gongwen.
"The Biden family and associates’ activities in coordination with Chinese nationals and their corporate entities appear to be an attempt to engage in financial deception," the memo said, adding that "multiple Biden family members received money from the Chinese after it passed through the Robinson Walker, LLC account."
"Additionally, Hunter Biden received money directly into his company’s account from a Chinese-controlled entity," the memo adds.
"The Committee will continue to engage in the accommodations process with those who have not cooperated with our investigation," the memo said. "The Committee plans to gather additional bank records in the near future and continue following the money trail."
The White House has slammed the committee’s investigation as "evidence-free" and "politically motivated." The White House has also maintained that President Biden has never been involved in his son’s business dealings.
Fox News' Kelly Phares contributed to this report.
If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.
Hard disagree.
We're talking about a guy that's less popular than Trump ever was. I'm not really sure why. I think he's neither great nor terrible, myself.
One thing that could happen is that two very unpopular guys could give a third party an opportunity to play spoiler. I don't see Biden vs. Trump part II making a lot of people very happy about the choices (then again that was true of the last two elections).
Not sure where you are getting that from. Despite poor numbers, his approval rating right now is higher than Trump's at this stage in his presidency and his approval ceiling is10 points higher that Trump's too.
I agree that most people are not going to be happy with either of them as the nominee. But way more people will still come out and vote against Trump and against Biden. Trump's numbers are only going to get worse as his indictments continue to roll in. The economy will dictate Biden's, but I have a feeling things will turn around on that front later in the year.
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Please, show us the quid pro quo. Specific payment resulted in X policy, policy reversal, or some other thing of value. Brandon was VP from 2009 to 2017. Where was the repub congress then or AG Bill DISbarred through 2021? Oh yea, Hillary mesmerized him.
Is it time to bump the Indictments Incoming thread? Again?
If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.
Hard disagree.
We're talking about a guy that's less popular than Trump ever was. I'm not really sure why. I think he's neither great nor terrible, myself.
One thing that could happen is that two very unpopular guys could give a third party an opportunity to play spoiler. I don't see Biden vs. Trump part II making a lot of people very happy about the choices (then again that was true of the last two elections).
Not sure where you are getting that from. Despite poor numbers, his approval rating right now is higher than Trump's at this stage in his presidency and his approval ceiling is10 points higher that Trump's too.
I agree that most people are not going to be happy with either of them as the nominee. But way more people will still come out and vote against Trump and against Biden. Trump's numbers are only going to get worse as his indictments continue to roll in. The economy will dictate Biden's, but I have a feeling things will turn around on that front later in the year.
I think it's funny that you mention Trump's numbers are only going to get worse once the indictments keep rolling in. They should, but they won't. That's been the belief for 7 years already.
Once the Access Hollywood tape is out... Once the Mueller report is out... Once the Stormy case comes forward... Once he is impeached... Once the insurrection attempt... Once the rape allegation.... Once he is indicted...
While some of these may have mattered enough to lose him a few votes over the years, he could still get 70 million plus people to vote for him, so really, these things don't matter to a majority of conservative voters. And then their one possible issue with Biden is just too much and he is destroying the country. Give me a break. What bullshit.
If Trump rand against Biden today, I'm not sure who'd win the popular vote, but Trump would crush him in the electoral. Aberrations happen, but you always go back to who you are.
Hard disagree.
We're talking about a guy that's less popular than Trump ever was. I'm not really sure why. I think he's neither great nor terrible, myself.
One thing that could happen is that two very unpopular guys could give a third party an opportunity to play spoiler. I don't see Biden vs. Trump part II making a lot of people very happy about the choices (then again that was true of the last two elections).
Not sure where you are getting that from. Despite poor numbers, his approval rating right now is higher than Trump's at this stage in his presidency and his approval ceiling is10 points higher that Trump's too.
I agree that most people are not going to be happy with either of them as the nominee. But way more people will still come out and vote against Trump and against Biden. Trump's numbers are only going to get worse as his indictments continue to roll in. The economy will dictate Biden's, but I have a feeling things will turn around on that front later in the year.
I think it's funny that you mention Trump's numbers are only going to get worse once the indictments keep rolling in. They should, but they won't. That's been the belief for 7 years already.
Once the Access Hollywood tape is out... Once the Mueller report is out... Once the Stormy case comes forward... Once he is impeached... Once the insurrection attempt... Once the rape allegation.... Once he is indicted...
While some of these may have mattered enough to lose him a few votes over the years, he could still get 70 million plus people to vote for him, so really, these things don't matter to a majority of conservative voters. And then their one possible issue with Biden is just too much and he is destroying the country. Give me a break. What bullshit.
That would be 4 million less than 2020. That's my point. I am not saying he's going to plummet in the polls. Far from it. Conservatives will vote for him no matter what. Moderates swing elections and they were turned off in 2018 and 2020. I don't see that changing next year especially when they start paying more attention.
If Trump ran against Biden today, I think both parties would be asking, really, this is the best we got?
They were asking that in 2016 and 2020. (Actually some in every election I remember but Hillary / Trump caused that to skyrocket).
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I legitimately don't know who the Dems would run if Biden didn't run, though. The well is really, really dry. Yeah, the GOP well is not dry because it's full of sewage, but that sewage motivates that particular base. What Democrat is going to get people to the polls?
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I legitimately don't know who the Dems would run if Biden didn't run, though. The well is really, really dry. Yeah, the GOP well is not dry because it's full of sewage, but that sewage motivates that particular base. What Democrat is going to get people to the polls?
Someone named Not Trump is enough to get most of them there.
I legitimately don't know who the Dems would run if Biden didn't run, though. The well is really, really dry. Yeah, the GOP well is not dry because it's full of sewage, but that sewage motivates that particular base. What Democrat is going to get people to the polls?
Someone named Not Trump is enough to get most of them there.
Well, Biden probably doesn't beat, say Mitt Romney in 2020. So "voting against Trump" was a factor. I really wish the Dems could have a pull-factor though and not just the Trump push factor.
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I legitimately don't know who the Dems would run if Biden didn't run, though. The well is really, really dry. Yeah, the GOP well is not dry because it's full of sewage, but that sewage motivates that particular base. What Democrat is going to get people to the polls?
Someone named Not Trump is enough to get most of them there.
Well, Biden probably doesn't beat, say Mitt Romney in 2020. So "voting against Trump" was a factor. I really wish the Dems could have a pull-factor though and not just the Trump push factor.
They will in '28. Lots of quality candidates that are not quite ready right now but should be by then.
I legitimately don't know who the Dems would run if Biden didn't run, though. The well is really, really dry. Yeah, the GOP well is not dry because it's full of sewage, but that sewage motivates that particular base. What Democrat is going to get people to the polls?
Someone named Not Trump is enough to get most of them there.
Well, Biden probably doesn't beat, say Mitt Romney in 2020. So "voting against Trump" was a factor. I really wish the Dems could have a pull-factor though and not just the Trump push factor.
They will in '28. Lots of quality candidates that are not quite ready right now but should be by then.
I'll be curious to see who. There are some Dems I like...but it seems like while the ideal GOP candidate has gone from "guy you want to have a beer with" to "miserable curmudgeon who hates the right people," the Dems still need something more akin to the "beer" candidate; someone that really energizes people. Obama did this. Clinton did, too. All other Dems in my memory (Mondale) have not done this and they've all lost with the exception of the one that went against Trump. Now, since Trump is probably going to be the next candidate, that may give Joe a chance. But I really would love to see them get their next Obama.
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I legitimately don't know who the Dems would run if Biden didn't run, though. The well is really, really dry. Yeah, the GOP well is not dry because it's full of sewage, but that sewage motivates that particular base. What Democrat is going to get people to the polls?
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Any of these three would be good, particularly the last two who have shown themselves as being able to win big in a purple state.
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
You're completely untethered from reality.
And to think, for one brief shining moment, I thought I was replying to someone who was making a rational comment for once.
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
"it was a perfect call".
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Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
"it was a perfect call".
This was what inspired my 'untethered from reality' reply.
The phone call was text book extortion right down to the quid pro quo.
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
"it was a perfect call".
This was what inspired my 'untethered from reality' reply.
The phone call was text book extortion right down to the quid pro quo.
i kind of like it when trump says "it was a perfect call". i mean, this is a fuckin dude who has never done anything perfectly in his life. always taking shortcuts, always cheating people that work for him, everything he has done has just been "good enough". you think he is going to make multiple "perfect" phone calls to world leaders and election officials in georgia? as far as i can tell seasoned politicians have never made anything "perfect" because everything they do is based on some sort of compromise usually.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
You know better than this. tRump controlled the DOJ for four years so don't act like he wouldn't have done something if he could. They had the fucking laptop and all that other bullshit under his dumbass reign.
Of course nothing will come of this because it's bullshit. That is why no major news organization is even mentioning it.
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Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
You know better than this. tRump controlled the DOJ for four years so don't act like he wouldn't have done something if he could. They had the fucking laptop and all that other bullshit under his dumbass reign.
Of course nothing will come of this because it's bullshit. That is why no major news organization is even mentioning it.
Every time Comer is asked if he has any evidence Biden committed some kind of crime he says no. You want to talk about witch hunts, this is the definition. They're just hoping and praying they eventually find a crime. It's actually kind of funny.
Looks like we may not need Hunter's laptop after all.............
Hi. Can you identify the actual crime for me in this article? Comer said they "appear" to be attempting to hide the source. That's not a crime. Comer said it may be influence peddling. That's not an actual crime. So tell me what the crime is?
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
Exactly- no one will prosecute this. They’ll have to look through the rest of the families tax returns and see if they declared the money. It’s obviously unethical but when has that ever stopped a politician?
When you've lost Mr. RolemodelsinBlood, you know it's entirely full of shit. haha
No, nothing about it is full of shit- those were subpoenaed documents that show the transactions. The issue is the DOJ does the dems bidding, so they won’t prosecute. The GOP, unless they’re involved themselves (?!) should take a page out of the dem playbook and draft articles of impeachment. Of course he won’t get removed from office, but just as they did with trump over a phone call, the spectacle and lining up of the Biden family folks involved for all to see is damaging enough in the eyes of the court of public opinion. And I say they should do it unless they’re involved because for all we know the big asshats in the GOP may have been involved in one way or another over those years.
So he should be impeached for actions by his family that occurred before he took office?
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One thing that could happen is that two very unpopular guys could give a third party an opportunity to play spoiler. I don't see Biden vs. Trump part II making a lot of people very happy about the choices (then again that was true of the last two elections).
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Biden family received millions from foreign nationals, tried to conceal source of funds: House Oversight
House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer is investigating the Biden family's 'influence peddling and business schemes'
It's going to be judgment day for the Biden administration: Rep. James Comer
The House Oversight and Accountability Committee says the Biden family and its business associates created more than 20 companies and received more than $10 million from foreign nationals while Joe Biden served as vice president, and that some of these payments could indicate attempts by the Biden family to "peddle influence."
Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., released a memo ahead of his press conference Wednesday that includes new information from his investigation into the Biden family’s "influence peddling and business schemes." The memo said the Biden family appeared to take steps to "conceal the source and total amount received from the foreign companies."
The committee has subpoenaed four different banks as part of its probe and received "thousands of records in response." Those subpoenas were "tailored to specific individuals and companies that engaged in business activities with Biden family members and their business associates," the memo said.
It said Biden family members and business associates "created a web of over 20 companies — most were limited liability companies formed during Joe Biden’s vice presidency."
SIX ADDITIONAL BIDEN FAMILY MEMBERS 'MAY HAVE BENEFITED' FROM HUNTER BUSINESS DEALINGS
The committee said those companies were formed mostly in Delaware and Washington, D.C., with the help of Hunter Biden’s business partners Rob Walker and James Gilliar.
"After assuming the vice presidency in 2009, records reveal Hunter Biden and his business associates formed at least 15 companies," the memo said. Those companies include Lion Hall Group LLC; Owasco P.C.; Robinson Walker, LLC; Skaneateles, LLC; Seneca Global Advisors, LLC; Rosemont Seneca Partners, LLC; Rosemont Seneca Principal Investments LLC; Rosemont Seneca Bohai, LLC; Hudson West III, LLC; Hudson West V, LLC; CEFC Infrastructure Investment (US) and others.
"Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ companies," the memo said, adding that the committee identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies "while Joe Biden served as Vice President and after he left public office."
"[T]he Biden family used business associates’ companies to receive millions of dollars from foreign companies," the memo said, adding that the Biden family "received incremental payments over time to different bank accounts."
EXCLUSIVE: WHITE HOUSE SLAMS COMER, ACCUSES GOP OF CONDUCTING ‘EVIDENCE-FREE’ PROBE INTO BIDEN FAMILY
President Biden, left, and his son Hunter Biden, right. (NICHOLAS KAMM/AFP via Getty Images)
"In some instances, Biden associates would receive significant deposits from foreign sources into their bank accounts and then transfer smaller, incremental payments to Biden bank accounts," the memo said. "These complicated and seemingly unnecessary financial transactions appear to be a concerted effort to conceal the source and total amount received from the foreign companies."
It said Chinese nationals and companies "with significant ties to Chinese intelligence and the Chinese Communist Party hid the source of the funds by layering domestic limited liability companies."
The committee says it is investigating "the opaque corporate structure of particular Biden-affiliated companies, those companies’ complicated connections with each other, whether these companies maintained books and records, and why certain foreign nationals sought to partner with and engage in businesses with specific Biden family members and their companies."
It said it already sees signs that the Biden family may have collected money from foreign nationals trying to influence U.S. policy. For example, the committee said it discovered that Hunter Biden, through his associate Rob Walker, received more than $1 million from a foreign company reportedly controlled by Gabriel Popoviciu, the subject of a criminal probe and prosecution for corruption in Romania. Then-Vice President Biden met with Romanian leaders in 2014 and 2015 "regarding corruption in the country."
HUNTER BIDEN IN 2017 EXTENDED 'BEST WISHES' FROM THE 'ENTIRE BIDEN FAMILY' TO CHAIRMAN OF CHINESE ENERGY FIRM, REQUESTS $10 MILLION WIRE
President Biden departs the White House on Jan. 19, 2023 in Washington, D.C. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
"The committee is concerned about the Biden family’s pattern of courting business in regions of the world in which the then Vice President had an outsize role and influenced U.S. policy," the memo said. "The Biden family and associates’ activities in Romania bear clear indica of a scheme to peddle influence from 2015-2017."
The committee said it found that in addition to Hunter Biden, James Gilliar and Rob Walker receiving foreign funds, James Biden, Hallie Biden and "other Bidens" also received "foreign payments."
The memo included a breakdown of the transactions from Chinese and Romanian nationals and companies.
Specifically, with regard to China, the memo points to two people —Ye Jianming and Gongwen Dong – and warned that particular Chinese business venture posed "potential threats to American national security." Both people were connected to Hunter Biden’s joint-venture with Chinese energy company CEFC.
HUNTER BIDEN UNDER FEDERAL INVESTIGATION FOR 'TAX AFFAIRS,' LINKS TO CHINA FUNDS EMERGE, SOURCES SAY
President Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, step off Air Force One, Saturday, Feb. 4, 2023, at Hancock Field Air National Guard Base in Syracuse, New York. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)
The memo said Ye had "close ties to the highest levels of the Chinese Communist Party and was reportedly deputy secretary-general for an international outreach arm of the People’s Liberation Army." Ye was later detained by the CCP in 2018.
"The Bidens received millions of dollars from their Chinese partnership," the memo said. "When Ye was detained by the Chinese, Hunter Biden then attempted to distance himself from the relationship by claiming he had never been paid by CEFC. This was false."
The memo said Hunter’s company, Hudson West V, received a $24 million wire from Ye. CEFC later wired $100,000 to Hunter’s Owasco, P.C.
BIDEN WROTE COLLEGE RECOMMENDATION LETTER FOR SON OF HUNTER'S CHINESE BUSINESS PARTNER, EMAILS REVEAL
A Senate report from 2020 said that on Aug. 8, 2017, CEFC wired nearly $5 million to the bank account for Hudson West III, a firm that Hunter Biden opened with Chinese associates.
Representative James Comer, a Republican from Kentucky and chairman of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, speaks during a hearing in Washington, D.C., Wednesday, Feb. 8, 2023. House Republicans plan to grill former Twitter executives over their alleged cooperation with the FBI to squelch the story of Hunter Biden's laptop, the opening salvo in their probe into the Biden family finances. (Anna Rose Layden/Bloomberg via Getty Images)
Fox News Digital first reported in 2020 that Hunter Biden had requested that keys be made for his new "office mates," listing his father, Jill Biden and his uncle, Jim Biden, for space he planned to share with Gongwen.
"The Biden family and associates’ activities in coordination with Chinese nationals and their corporate entities appear to be an attempt to engage in financial deception," the memo said, adding that "multiple Biden family members received money from the Chinese after it passed through the Robinson Walker, LLC account."
"Additionally, Hunter Biden received money directly into his company’s account from a Chinese-controlled entity," the memo adds.
"The Committee will continue to engage in the accommodations process with those who have not cooperated with our investigation," the memo said. "The Committee plans to gather additional bank records in the near future and continue following the money trail."
HUNTER BIDEN BUSINESS ASSOCIATE'S TEXT MESSAGES INDICATE MEETING WITH JOE BIDEN
Hunter Biden introduces his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden in 2016.
"The Committee is committed to rooting out fraud, waste, and abuse that exist at the highest level of the federal government," it added.
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The White House has slammed the committee’s investigation as "evidence-free" and "politically motivated." The White House has also maintained that President Biden has never been involved in his son’s business dealings.
Fox News' Kelly Phares contributed to this report.
I agree that most people are not going to be happy with either of them as the nominee. But way more people will still come out and vote against Trump and against Biden. Trump's numbers are only going to get worse as his indictments continue to roll in. The economy will dictate Biden's, but I have a feeling things will turn around on that front later in the year.
Also, folks this right here^^....is another reason why Trump won't win. Nobody but his 30% base cares about this shit.
If it is real crimes like money laundering, tax evasion and wire fraud, they would have known by now. It's pretty easy to investigate if these funds showed up on tax returns.
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Is it time to bump the Indictments Incoming thread? Again?
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Once the Access Hollywood tape is out...
Once the Mueller report is out...
Once the Stormy case comes forward...
Once he is impeached...
Once the insurrection attempt...
Once the rape allegation....
Once he is indicted...
While some of these may have mattered enough to lose him a few votes over the years, he could still get 70 million plus people to vote for him, so really, these things don't matter to a majority of conservative voters. And then their one possible issue with Biden is just too much and he is destroying the country. Give me a break. What bullshit.
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Whitmer
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Any of these three would be good, particularly the last two who have shown themselves as being able to win big in a purple state.
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The phone call was text book extortion right down to the quid pro quo.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Of course nothing will come of this because it's bullshit. That is why no major news organization is even mentioning it.
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