#46 President Joe Biden
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I'll also save you guys time for when Elon Musk is the head of the Disinformation Board in Nikki Haley's Administration - When Biden ran it, they did it right, Haley's Admin is abusing it (which of course, ironically, proves the point in the first place. lol).Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0
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Perhaps you’d like to link to a DHS, government or another website that fully describes this “Disinformation Board,” it’s charge, structure, staffing and budget rather than say things like, “determine the truth?” And then follow that up with some original thoughts as to why it concerns you. But nah, let’s pretend we should be concerned about something that’s going to “determine the truth.”EdsonNascimento said:
Lol. The faux. this is 2022's left version of false equivalency.Halifax2TheMax said:
“An agency to monitor the truth.” Delusional.EdsonNascimento said:
No idea what you're talking about as it relates to Winnie the Pooh. That has nothing to do with this conversation. What I think about another Administration is irrelevant to the discussion.Halifax2TheMax said:
But you didn't seem troubled at all by the POOTWH administration. Not. At. All.EdsonNascimento said:First - no the press secretary is getting the President's message out. Some of what they say is not truthful or at the very least not completely forthright. It's spin. If you believe otherwise, that's part of the problem.
Second - no - I don't want the Gov't determining what is and is not truth. Yes, they should get their message across. But, not they should not be regulating what is truth. We've all read those books.
In terms of criminalization - sure, that's yet to be seen. So, is that your bridge? As long as they only try to promote their truth, it's ok? But if they start jailing people it's not? That's what I'm asking. At what point are you troubled by that? I'm troubled already.
Stop the presses, press secretaries spin? Holy shit.
Show me an example of the Gov't determining truth. You mean like Bill DISbarred and his Team Mueller Report summation?
What's this criminalization you speak of? Echo chambering somewhere?
There are plenty of examples and your dismissing the spin a press secretary does (in all Administrations - I guess you missed the part where I stated that as a generality) proves your issue.
There is no criminalization. I didn't say there was. That was me asking if that's the bridge too far.
When folks here learn to actually take the time to read and comprehend, I'll consider your opinion valid. You completely made up your own world based on nothing.
So, again - does it not bother you that the Government (any Administration) created a Disinformation Board?
Yes, each Administration creates their own narrative (thus, the Press Secretary points). But, should they create an Agency that determines what the truth is? Hard no for me. So, I'll ask again - where is your line in the sand when it comes to the Government creating an agency to monitor truth?
How does that work? The headlines will blare, “Government Disinformation Board declares Biden won 2020 election fair and square.” And people like you will dismiss it. What is there to be afraid of? Or concerned about? After all, we have Project Veritas.
”An agency to monitor the truth.” The world is round. Ivermectin cures covid. It’ll be gone by Easter. I don’t know any Russians. And you’re suddenly concerned with an agency to monitor the truth? Please.
To answer your faux rage question of the day, no, not at all. It’s too late for that.
I do enjoy the crazy word play.
I'm not raged about anything. Concern would be the word.
And to put it in perspective these are Agencies that the last 2 Admins have created -
Trump creates International Development Finance Corporation
Biden creates Misinformation Board
And if you want to go back and forth - do you think Trump invented saying elections are rigged when he loses? Lol. Hillary has spent 6 years fabricating documents to prove her case. And, she didn't invent it either.
(And why does the left always lead with the point that whoever their arguing with thinks Biden didn't win the election?)
Im more concerned with a POOTWH who accepted and encouraged a massive Putin on the ritz social media disinformation campaign to “win” an election and told north of 25,000 + verifiable outright lies or mistruths while in office, the house minority leader saying one thing privately, as it relates to the “truth,” and another thing publicly regarding a coup attempt and folks who will welcome a Deathsantis Administration with a repub majority Congress.
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You still have not explained their authority. Again, it sounds like a 'strike force' or something to counter narratives with which they disagree, likely on social media. This happens every day already. Unless they can suppress or reduce free speech, I don't understand your concern.EdsonNascimento said:I'll also save you guys time for when Elon Musk is the head of the Disinformation Board in Nikki Haley's Administration - When Biden ran it, they did it right, Haley's Admin is abusing it (which of course, ironically, proves the point in the first place. lol).0 -
And let’s be honest about the “truth.” POOTWH didn’t create shit. He rebranded it.EdsonNascimento said:
Lol. The faux. this is 2022's left version of false equivalency.Halifax2TheMax said:
“An agency to monitor the truth.” Delusional.EdsonNascimento said:
No idea what you're talking about as it relates to Winnie the Pooh. That has nothing to do with this conversation. What I think about another Administration is irrelevant to the discussion.Halifax2TheMax said:
But you didn't seem troubled at all by the POOTWH administration. Not. At. All.EdsonNascimento said:First - no the press secretary is getting the President's message out. Some of what they say is not truthful or at the very least not completely forthright. It's spin. If you believe otherwise, that's part of the problem.
Second - no - I don't want the Gov't determining what is and is not truth. Yes, they should get their message across. But, not they should not be regulating what is truth. We've all read those books.
In terms of criminalization - sure, that's yet to be seen. So, is that your bridge? As long as they only try to promote their truth, it's ok? But if they start jailing people it's not? That's what I'm asking. At what point are you troubled by that? I'm troubled already.
Stop the presses, press secretaries spin? Holy shit.
Show me an example of the Gov't determining truth. You mean like Bill DISbarred and his Team Mueller Report summation?
What's this criminalization you speak of? Echo chambering somewhere?
There are plenty of examples and your dismissing the spin a press secretary does (in all Administrations - I guess you missed the part where I stated that as a generality) proves your issue.
There is no criminalization. I didn't say there was. That was me asking if that's the bridge too far.
When folks here learn to actually take the time to read and comprehend, I'll consider your opinion valid. You completely made up your own world based on nothing.
So, again - does it not bother you that the Government (any Administration) created a Disinformation Board?
Yes, each Administration creates their own narrative (thus, the Press Secretary points). But, should they create an Agency that determines what the truth is? Hard no for me. So, I'll ask again - where is your line in the sand when it comes to the Government creating an agency to monitor truth?
How does that work? The headlines will blare, “Government Disinformation Board declares Biden won 2020 election fair and square.” And people like you will dismiss it. What is there to be afraid of? Or concerned about? After all, we have Project Veritas.
”An agency to monitor the truth.” The world is round. Ivermectin cures covid. It’ll be gone by Easter. I don’t know any Russians. And you’re suddenly concerned with an agency to monitor the truth? Please.
To answer your faux rage question of the day, no, not at all. It’s too late for that.
I do enjoy the crazy word play.
I'm not raged about anything. Concern would be the word.
And to put it in perspective these are Agencies that the last 2 Admins have created -
Trump creates International Development Finance Corporation
Biden creates Misinformation Board
And if you want to go back and forth - do you think Trump invented saying elections are rigged when he loses? Lol. Hillary has spent 6 years fabricating documents to prove her case. And, she didn't invent it either.
(And why does the left always lead with the point that whoever their arguing with thinks Biden didn't win the election?)
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Guess it’s okay when your guy does it?
(It’s also worth noting that the Trump administration’s DHS undertook similar efforts; in 2018 it created the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which dealt extensively with the spread of misinformation online — including both foreign interference in elections and the domestic spread of coronavirus misinformation. White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that the new board would be “a continuation of the work of the former president” when asked about it on Friday.”)
Seems like the truth was already being monitored and yet, no concern.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I'm guessing these folks either were not aware of this or, dare I say it, are being a tad disingenuous in their rhetoric today. I know, shocking, right?Halifax2TheMax said:Guess it’s okay when your guy does it?
(It’s also worth noting that the Trump administration’s DHS undertook similar efforts; in 2018 it created the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which dealt extensively with the spread of misinformation online — including both foreign interference in elections and the domestic spread of coronavirus misinformation. White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that the new board would be “a continuation of the work of the former president” when asked about it on Friday.”)
Seems like the truth was already being monitored and yet, no concern.www.myspace.com0 -
It’s become typical. Biden’s DHS head testifies before Congress and the repubs release a 60 page “memo” for “members only” (does a satin jacket come with it?) listing all the “gotcha” Faux News faux rage clips they can ask or pontificate about to faux rage their base and own the libs (wonder if Hannity gave them 59 of the 60 pages?). You know, rather than ask about the continuation of a POOTWH DHS program, raise concerns, perhaps ask about potential safeguards to protect “the truth” and then work with your colleagues across the aisle to enhance border security, particularly the advertising and funding for those caravans.The Juggler said:
I'm guessing these folks either were not aware of this or, dare I say it, are being a tad disingenuous in their rhetoric today. I know, shocking, right?Halifax2TheMax said:Guess it’s okay when your guy does it?
(It’s also worth noting that the Trump administration’s DHS undertook similar efforts; in 2018 it created the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which dealt extensively with the spread of misinformation online — including both foreign interference in elections and the domestic spread of coronavirus misinformation. White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that the new board would be “a continuation of the work of the former president” when asked about it on Friday.”)
Seems like the truth was already being monitored and yet, no concern.
Either naive or disingenuous but considering the OP misrepresented both examples of what POOTWH “created” versus Biden, I’d say both. But hey, we should all be concerned, notwithstanding Hillary and election rigging.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Yeah I just read up on all that too in the Wapo article.Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s become typical. Biden’s DHS head testifies before Congress and the repubs release a 60 page “memo” for “members only” (does a satin jacket come with it?) listing all the “gotcha” Faux News faux rage clips they can ask or pontificate about to faux rage their base and own the libs (wonder if Hannity gave them 59 of the 60 pages?). You know, rather than ask about the continuation of a POOTWH DHS program, raise concerns, perhaps ask about potential safeguards to protect “the truth” and then work with your colleagues across the aisle to enhance border security, particularly the advertising and funding for those caravans.The Juggler said:
I'm guessing these folks either were not aware of this or, dare I say it, are being a tad disingenuous in their rhetoric today. I know, shocking, right?Halifax2TheMax said:Guess it’s okay when your guy does it?
(It’s also worth noting that the Trump administration’s DHS undertook similar efforts; in 2018 it created the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which dealt extensively with the spread of misinformation online — including both foreign interference in elections and the domestic spread of coronavirus misinformation. White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that the new board would be “a continuation of the work of the former president” when asked about it on Friday.”)
Seems like the truth was already being monitored and yet, no concern.
Either naive or disingenuous but considering the OP misrepresented both examples of what POOTWH “created” versus Biden, I’d say both. But hey, we should all be concerned, notwithstanding Hillary and election rigging.
It's funny how this guy calls this little website of a 30 year old band an echo chamber, while the right wing Outrage Machine just continues churning and churning and telling their tens of millions of viewers/listeners/headline readers about what to get riled over time and time again without much context.www.myspace.com0 -
Forgive me if this is common knowledge, but what power does a "Board" formed by the White House have, besides to have time, energy and resources officially committed to research the topic and make proposals? I know 'governance' is in its name, but do they have any honest governance capacities besides producing recommendations to the Biden administration on how to tackle some of these challenges?EdsonNascimento said:
Let's go with your line of derangement-Lerxst1992 said:EdsonNascimento said:Let me put it to you this way - If Donald Trump had formed this Board would you have been concerned?Donald trump lying about elections puts us all in danger. “Either I win or it’s rigged” is among the most dangerous phrases spoken in American history, yet very few on the right or middle seem to care. The phrase allows for no outcome other than trump winning, so no liberty, no freedom, we all must take a conservative president down our throats no matter what.
When republicans and independents begin to take the crimes of trump and his disciples seriously perhaps we can have some hope. It is alarming how many candidates for congress right now are parroting his election lies, and they have tons of supporters.
When J6 happened, congress and rioters were in imminent danger. That’s when his words became a crime. Yet he gets away with it because republicans vote R no matter the consequences and independents hate politics to the extent they never hold politicians accountable.
So, are you saying it's ok for Biden to have this Agency but not Trump? If so, what's your plan when Desantis is President in 3 years and this Agency exists and he decides to keep it (he won't - that's another example of why he'll be elected, but stick with the point and pretend Biden isn't President in 3 years)?
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Let's go with your line of derangement-Lerxst1992 said:EdsonNascimento said:Let me put it to you this way - If Donald Trump had formed this Board would you have been concerned?Donald trump lying about elections puts us all in danger. “Either I win or it’s rigged” is among the most dangerous phrases spoken in American history, yet very few on the right or middle seem to care. The phrase allows for no outcome other than trump winning, so no liberty, no freedom, we all must take a conservative president down our throats no matter what.
When republicans and independents begin to take the crimes of trump and his disciples seriously perhaps we can have some hope. It is alarming how many candidates for congress right now are parroting his election lies, and they have tons of supporters.
When J6 happened, congress and rioters were in imminent danger. That’s when his words became a crime. Yet he gets away with it because republicans vote R no matter the consequences and independents hate politics to the extent they never hold politicians accountable.
So, are you saying it's ok for Biden to have this Agency but not Trump? If so, what's your plan when Desantis is President in 3 years and this Agency exists and he decides to keep it (he won't - that's another example of why he'll be elected, but stick with the point and pretend Biden isn't President in 3 years)?A president can investigate as he sees fit, if any crimes are discovered, that’s why we have the Dept of Justice.DeSantis is an extremist who organizes against free speech and attacks minority groups of the population. To prove he is a maniac and a liar will not be difficult in 2024.Did Biden organize and provoke an attack against Congress?
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is someone really arguing that it is ok for people to make their own truth and that it is ok for the government to deal in allowing mistruths to be accepted as facts? or am i reading that wrong??"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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This post ages particularly well, especially the part about comprehension.EdsonNascimento said:
No idea what you're talking about as it relates to Winnie the Pooh. That has nothing to do with this conversation. What I think about another Administration is irrelevant to the discussion.Halifax2TheMax said:
But you didn't seem troubled at all by the POOTWH administration. Not. At. All.EdsonNascimento said:First - no the press secretary is getting the President's message out. Some of what they say is not truthful or at the very least not completely forthright. It's spin. If you believe otherwise, that's part of the problem.
Second - no - I don't want the Gov't determining what is and is not truth. Yes, they should get their message across. But, not they should not be regulating what is truth. We've all read those books.
In terms of criminalization - sure, that's yet to be seen. So, is that your bridge? As long as they only try to promote their truth, it's ok? But if they start jailing people it's not? That's what I'm asking. At what point are you troubled by that? I'm troubled already.
Stop the presses, press secretaries spin? Holy shit.
Show me an example of the Gov't determining truth. You mean like Bill DISbarred and his Team Mueller Report summation?
What's this criminalization you speak of? Echo chambering somewhere?
There are plenty of examples and your dismissing the spin a press secretary does (in all Administrations - I guess you missed the part where I stated that as a generality) proves your issue.
There is no criminalization. I didn't say there was. That was me asking if that's the bridge too far.
When folks here learn to actually take the time to read and comprehend, I'll consider your opinion valid. You completely made up your own world based on nothing.
So, again - does it not bother you that the Government (any Administration) created a Disinformation Board?
Yes, each Administration creates their own narrative (thus, the Press Secretary points). But, should they create an Agency that determines what the truth is? Hard no for me. So, I'll ask again - where is your line in the sand when it comes to the Government creating an agency to monitor truth?
Maybe a little less Gym Jordan and his 60 page audition for house speaker and a little more know of what you speak prior to asking where our line in the sand is. Or is it less echo chamber?
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Mr Biden seems even more like the walking dead lately. Can we please get back to a president that isn’t 1 foot in the grave?hippiemom = goodness0
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I really don't understand your take on this. He consistently speaks to the press without prepared remarks, answers political and global questions with ease and clarity....I just don't get it. I'm not even comparing him to Trump here. Just on his own, I think he does really well.cincybearcat said:Mr Biden seems even more like the walking dead lately. Can we please get back to a president that isn’t 1 foot in the grave?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I’m talking about seeing him and listening to him from his recent visit to Cincinnati. Saw a lot on the news. All presidents age (except trump cause he didn’t work or care)…and it’s showing pretty bad. Dude is freakin 79… I’m surprised people don’t think he looks old and has had some change in just 1 year.HughFreakingDillon said:
I really don't understand your take on this. He consistently speaks to the press without prepared remarks, answers political and global questions with ease and clarity....I just don't get it. I'm not even comparing him to Trump here. Just on his own, I think he does really well.cincybearcat said:Mr Biden seems even more like the walking dead lately. Can we please get back to a president that isn’t 1 foot in the grave?hippiemom = goodness0 -
I don't see it, but I didn't see his recent visit. the last thing I saw was the White House Correspondents Dinner.cincybearcat said:
I’m talking about seeing him and listening to him from his recent visit to Cincinnati. Saw a lot on the news. All presidents age (except trump cause he didn’t work or care)…and it’s showing pretty bad. Dude is freakin 79… I’m surprised people don’t think he looks old and has had some change in just 1 year.HughFreakingDillon said:
I really don't understand your take on this. He consistently speaks to the press without prepared remarks, answers political and global questions with ease and clarity....I just don't get it. I'm not even comparing him to Trump here. Just on his own, I think he does really well.cincybearcat said:Mr Biden seems even more like the walking dead lately. Can we please get back to a president that isn’t 1 foot in the grave?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I think that’s where he said he’s the first senator in Delaware. He obviously means he’s the first senator from Delaware to become president. Not a big deal.HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't see it, but I didn't see his recent visit. the last thing I saw was the White House Correspondents Dinner.cincybearcat said:
I’m talking about seeing him and listening to him from his recent visit to Cincinnati. Saw a lot on the news. All presidents age (except trump cause he didn’t work or care)…and it’s showing pretty bad. Dude is freakin 79… I’m surprised people don’t think he looks old and has had some change in just 1 year.HughFreakingDillon said:
I really don't understand your take on this. He consistently speaks to the press without prepared remarks, answers political and global questions with ease and clarity....I just don't get it. I'm not even comparing him to Trump here. Just on his own, I think he does really well.cincybearcat said:Mr Biden seems even more like the walking dead lately. Can we please get back to a president that isn’t 1 foot in the grave?0 -
Same...but anything is an improvement over that orange fuckfaceHughFreakingDillon said:
I really don't understand your take on this. He consistently speaks to the press without prepared remarks, answers political and global questions with ease and clarity....I just don't get it. I'm not even comparing him to Trump here. Just on his own, I think he does really well.cincybearcat said:Mr Biden seems even more like the walking dead lately. Can we please get back to a president that isn’t 1 foot in the grave?Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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