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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,108
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    mickeyrat said:
    dude dont know when to quit.....

    Sanofi announces insulin price cap after actions by Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk

    Sanofi, along with Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, make up about 90% of the insulin market in the U.S. All three have announced price cuts or out-of-pocket caps in recent weeks.


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    Yes thank you Joe! 

    People can't afford gas, food, a mortgage but hey if we ever need insulin you got our backs. 

    I think as long as we have a secure border, secure banking and no threat of WW3 we should be good. 

    Four more years of this almost sounds too good to be true! 
    because gas and mortgage are essential for survival, lol

    also, a president does not control any of the other things. i'm sure you know this already, so keep up the clown posts.
    You don't think a affordable housing and gas are essentials?
    millions get along without owning a vehicle. 

    housing is a human right. but a house don't matter if you can't afford the medicine that saves your life. 
    True. But depending where you live and work, cars are very essential to some. Public transportation isn't reliable or practical for a lot of people who drive 20 miles to work. Not to mention when gas goes up, everything goes up. So skyrocketing gas prices will make groceries, that get delivered by trucks using gas, more expensive. And if you're already struggling then you can't afford it. Not to mention all the moms who drop kids off at childcare and have to rush back so they don't get charged a late pickup fee. They couldn't do that without a car, and most working moms that I know of are in that situation.
    And I could also argue that medicine doesn't matter if you're living on the street in a snow storm and freeze to death after you get free medicine.
    I'm just saying I disagree that housing and gas are not essential to most people and are real concerns for many people.  
    What solutions do you suggest for the high cost of gas, housing and inflation? What solutions does the political party that you most closely identify with suggest?
    I need to offer up solutions to say they are essential?
    I was just commenting that laughing off affordable housing and and gas as essentials is not accurate, because both are essential to most Americans. 
    How about telling us what the current unemployment and homelessness rates are? Versus the number of Americans suffering from diabetes.
    If you're so interested I'm sure you can look it up.
    I'm not sure how that is relevant to the topic though. Not every person with diabetes pays a lot for insulin. Some will no doubt have good insurance that covers most of the cost. So a straight up numbers comparison of homeless vs diabetic isn't going to tell us much.
    So I'm not sure why you're trying to argue housing nad gas aren't essential. Meds, housing and gas can all be essential, it is not an either or.
    POTUS negotiated a $35 price cap for a drug that 10s of millions of ‘Muricans rely upon to continue living and it appears that you’re complaining because gas, housing and inflation are high. Sounds like a faux news inspired criticism and complaint to me.

    Bring up the high cost of gas with the oil industry, housing with institutional investors and wealth funds and inflation with Putin on the ritz and Xi. All of which have started to move down if you’re paying attention.

    I’ll ask you again, what solutions does the political party you most closely align with offer as solutions to your pressing concerns of high gas, food, housing prices and inflation?
    When did I complain? I didn't bring up housing and gas. 
    Someone said housing and gas are not essential. I disagreed, and said they are essential too. That was it. 
    What is the political party you most closely align with doing to address your “essentials?” 
     
    Thats been your response every time. What does that have to do with it being essential or not? I never claimed they were going to solve anything. Just that they are essential.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,108
    edited March 2023
    A quick google search provided this,

    https://cssrc.us/issue/actonhomelessness

    Proposals include addiction intervention and construction of shelters.

    California is home (no pun intended) to 30% of the nation's homeless. It had the highest growth of homeless. I'd be interested in seeing a plan from Newson that actually works. 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,962
    mace1229 said:
    A quick google search provided this,

    https://cssrc.us/issue/actonhomelessness

    Proposals include addiction intervention and construction of shelters.

    California is home (no pun intended) to 30% of the nation's homeless. It had the highest growth of homeless. I'd be interested in seeing a plan from Newson that actually works. 
    GL. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,085
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dude dont know when to quit.....

    Sanofi announces insulin price cap after actions by Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk

    Sanofi, along with Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, make up about 90% of the insulin market in the U.S. All three have announced price cuts or out-of-pocket caps in recent weeks.


    continues...


    Yes thank you Joe! 

    People can't afford gas, food, a mortgage but hey if we ever need insulin you got our backs. 

    I think as long as we have a secure border, secure banking and no threat of WW3 we should be good. 

    Four more years of this almost sounds too good to be true! 
    because gas and mortgage are essential for survival, lol

    also, a president does not control any of the other things. i'm sure you know this already, so keep up the clown posts.
    You don't think a affordable housing and gas are essentials?
    millions get along without owning a vehicle. 

    housing is a human right. but a house don't matter if you can't afford the medicine that saves your life. 
    True. But depending where you live and work, cars are very essential to some. Public transportation isn't reliable or practical for a lot of people who drive 20 miles to work. Not to mention when gas goes up, everything goes up. So skyrocketing gas prices will make groceries, that get delivered by trucks using gas, more expensive. And if you're already struggling then you can't afford it. Not to mention all the moms who drop kids off at childcare and have to rush back so they don't get charged a late pickup fee. They couldn't do that without a car, and most working moms that I know of are in that situation.
    And I could also argue that medicine doesn't matter if you're living on the street in a snow storm and freeze to death after you get free medicine.
    I'm just saying I disagree that housing and gas are not essential to most people and are real concerns for many people.  
    What solutions do you suggest for the high cost of gas, housing and inflation? What solutions does the political party that you most closely identify with suggest?
    I need to offer up solutions to say they are essential?
    I was just commenting that laughing off affordable housing and and gas as essentials is not accurate, because both are essential to most Americans. 
    How about telling us what the current unemployment and homelessness rates are? Versus the number of Americans suffering from diabetes.
    If you're so interested I'm sure you can look it up.
    I'm not sure how that is relevant to the topic though. Not every person with diabetes pays a lot for insulin. Some will no doubt have good insurance that covers most of the cost. So a straight up numbers comparison of homeless vs diabetic isn't going to tell us much.
    So I'm not sure why you're trying to argue housing nad gas aren't essential. Meds, housing and gas can all be essential, it is not an either or.
    POTUS negotiated a $35 price cap for a drug that 10s of millions of ‘Muricans rely upon to continue living and it appears that you’re complaining because gas, housing and inflation are high. Sounds like a faux news inspired criticism and complaint to me.

    Bring up the high cost of gas with the oil industry, housing with institutional investors and wealth funds and inflation with Putin on the ritz and Xi. All of which have started to move down if you’re paying attention.

    I’ll ask you again, what solutions does the political party you most closely align with offer as solutions to your pressing concerns of high gas, food, housing prices and inflation?
    When did I complain? I didn't bring up housing and gas. 
    Someone said housing and gas are not essential. I disagreed, and said they are essential too. That was it. 
    What is the political party you most closely align with doing to address your “essentials?” 
     
    Thats been your response every time. What does that have to do with it being essential or not? I never claimed they were going to solve anything. Just that they are essential.
    Let me know when 37 million Muricans are homeless. Or can’t drive because of gas prices. Or can’t afford food and die. See the differences between “essential” yet?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,085
    mace1229 said:
    A quick google search provided this,

    https://cssrc.us/issue/actonhomelessness

    Proposals include addiction intervention and construction of shelters.

    California is home (no pun intended) to 30% of the nation's homeless. It had the highest growth of homeless. I'd be interested in seeing a plan from Newson that actually works. 
    Can you interpret for me from your link what “protecting faith based organizations” means? What about the other 49 states?
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,108
    edited March 2023
    mace1229 said:
    A quick google search provided this,

    https://cssrc.us/issue/actonhomelessness

    Proposals include addiction intervention and construction of shelters.

    California is home (no pun intended) to 30% of the nation's homeless. It had the highest growth of homeless. I'd be interested in seeing a plan from Newson that actually works. 
    Can you interpret for me from your link what “protecting faith based organizations” means? What about the other 49 states?
    I'm assuming it means providing support to churches that shelter homeless. I believe some shelters do not get government support if they are affiliated with a church or other religious organization. 
    You asked for an example what republixcans are doing. I gave several in 1 resource. You didn't specify how many examples you wanted. How many do you need?
    You can find all the information you seek here: https://www.google.com/




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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,108
    edited March 2023
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dude dont know when to quit.....

    Sanofi announces insulin price cap after actions by Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk

    Sanofi, along with Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, make up about 90% of the insulin market in the U.S. All three have announced price cuts or out-of-pocket caps in recent weeks.


    continues...


    Yes thank you Joe! 

    People can't afford gas, food, a mortgage but hey if we ever need insulin you got our backs. 

    I think as long as we have a secure border, secure banking and no threat of WW3 we should be good. 

    Four more years of this almost sounds too good to be true! 
    because gas and mortgage are essential for survival, lol

    also, a president does not control any of the other things. i'm sure you know this already, so keep up the clown posts.
    You don't think a affordable housing and gas are essentials?
    millions get along without owning a vehicle. 

    housing is a human right. but a house don't matter if you can't afford the medicine that saves your life. 
    True. But depending where you live and work, cars are very essential to some. Public transportation isn't reliable or practical for a lot of people who drive 20 miles to work. Not to mention when gas goes up, everything goes up. So skyrocketing gas prices will make groceries, that get delivered by trucks using gas, more expensive. And if you're already struggling then you can't afford it. Not to mention all the moms who drop kids off at childcare and have to rush back so they don't get charged a late pickup fee. They couldn't do that without a car, and most working moms that I know of are in that situation.
    And I could also argue that medicine doesn't matter if you're living on the street in a snow storm and freeze to death after you get free medicine.
    I'm just saying I disagree that housing and gas are not essential to most people and are real concerns for many people.  
    What solutions do you suggest for the high cost of gas, housing and inflation? What solutions does the political party that you most closely identify with suggest?
    I need to offer up solutions to say they are essential?
    I was just commenting that laughing off affordable housing and and gas as essentials is not accurate, because both are essential to most Americans. 
    How about telling us what the current unemployment and homelessness rates are? Versus the number of Americans suffering from diabetes.
    If you're so interested I'm sure you can look it up.
    I'm not sure how that is relevant to the topic though. Not every person with diabetes pays a lot for insulin. Some will no doubt have good insurance that covers most of the cost. So a straight up numbers comparison of homeless vs diabetic isn't going to tell us much.
    So I'm not sure why you're trying to argue housing nad gas aren't essential. Meds, housing and gas can all be essential, it is not an either or.
    POTUS negotiated a $35 price cap for a drug that 10s of millions of ‘Muricans rely upon to continue living and it appears that you’re complaining because gas, housing and inflation are high. Sounds like a faux news inspired criticism and complaint to me.

    Bring up the high cost of gas with the oil industry, housing with institutional investors and wealth funds and inflation with Putin on the ritz and Xi. All of which have started to move down if you’re paying attention.

    I’ll ask you again, what solutions does the political party you most closely align with offer as solutions to your pressing concerns of high gas, food, housing prices and inflation?
    When did I complain? I didn't bring up housing and gas. 
    Someone said housing and gas are not essential. I disagreed, and said they are essential too. That was it. 
    What is the political party you most closely align with doing to address your “essentials?” 
     
    Thats been your response every time. What does that have to do with it being essential or not? I never claimed they were going to solve anything. Just that they are essential.
    Let me know when 37 million Muricans are homeless. Or can’t drive because of gas prices. Or can’t afford food and die. See the differences between “essential” yet?
    Why does that matter? 37 million have to be homeless for homes to be essential? That doesnt make sense. Again, I'll say it for about the 5th time. I never said meds are not essential. I said BOTH can be, housing AND medicine. It is not either or. 

    But if you want to play that game, let me know when 37 million are going without insulin? Because its not even close to that, Most diabetics don't even need insulin, so your 37 million is out of nowhere. According to your post, 37 million have to starve and die for food to be essential. your analogy doesn't make sense. See the difference?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,890
    mace1229 said:
    A quick google search provided this,

    https://cssrc.us/issue/actonhomelessness

    Proposals include addiction intervention and construction of shelters.

    California is home (no pun intended) to 30% of the nation's homeless. It had the highest growth of homeless. I'd be interested in seeing a plan from Newson that actually works. 
    The reason California is home to the homeless is because they don't kick them out.  Texas solved homelessness by evicting them. They didn't solve a problem,  they moved it.  It's a national issue that has no state level reasons. 
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    RunIntoTheRainRunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,014
    Wait. Texas solved it homelessness problem? I work in Dallas. Tons of homeless here. Did some politician say Texas solved the problem?

    I'm betting you're being sarcastic Matt?
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,214
    mace1229 said:
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    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dude dont know when to quit.....

    Sanofi announces insulin price cap after actions by Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk

    Sanofi, along with Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, make up about 90% of the insulin market in the U.S. All three have announced price cuts or out-of-pocket caps in recent weeks.


    continues...


    Yes thank you Joe! 

    People can't afford gas, food, a mortgage but hey if we ever need insulin you got our backs. 

    I think as long as we have a secure border, secure banking and no threat of WW3 we should be good. 

    Four more years of this almost sounds too good to be true! 
    because gas and mortgage are essential for survival, lol

    also, a president does not control any of the other things. i'm sure you know this already, so keep up the clown posts.
    You don't think a affordable housing and gas are essentials?
    millions get along without owning a vehicle. 

    housing is a human right. but a house don't matter if you can't afford the medicine that saves your life. 
    True. But depending where you live and work, cars are very essential to some. Public transportation isn't reliable or practical for a lot of people who drive 20 miles to work. Not to mention when gas goes up, everything goes up. So skyrocketing gas prices will make groceries, that get delivered by trucks using gas, more expensive. And if you're already struggling then you can't afford it. Not to mention all the moms who drop kids off at childcare and have to rush back so they don't get charged a late pickup fee. They couldn't do that without a car, and most working moms that I know of are in that situation.
    And I could also argue that medicine doesn't matter if you're living on the street in a snow storm and freeze to death after you get free medicine.
    I'm just saying I disagree that housing and gas are not essential to most people and are real concerns for many people.  
    What solutions do you suggest for the high cost of gas, housing and inflation? What solutions does the political party that you most closely identify with suggest?
    I need to offer up solutions to say they are essential?
    I was just commenting that laughing off affordable housing and and gas as essentials is not accurate, because both are essential to most Americans. 
    How about telling us what the current unemployment and homelessness rates are? Versus the number of Americans suffering from diabetes.
    If you're so interested I'm sure you can look it up.
    I'm not sure how that is relevant to the topic though. Not every person with diabetes pays a lot for insulin. Some will no doubt have good insurance that covers most of the cost. So a straight up numbers comparison of homeless vs diabetic isn't going to tell us much.
    So I'm not sure why you're trying to argue housing nad gas aren't essential. Meds, housing and gas can all be essential, it is not an either or.
    POTUS negotiated a $35 price cap for a drug that 10s of millions of ‘Muricans rely upon to continue living and it appears that you’re complaining because gas, housing and inflation are high. Sounds like a faux news inspired criticism and complaint to me.

    Bring up the high cost of gas with the oil industry, housing with institutional investors and wealth funds and inflation with Putin on the ritz and Xi. All of which have started to move down if you’re paying attention.

    I’ll ask you again, what solutions does the political party you most closely align with offer as solutions to your pressing concerns of high gas, food, housing prices and inflation?
    When did I complain? I didn't bring up housing and gas. 
    Someone said housing and gas are not essential. I disagreed, and said they are essential too. That was it. 
    What is the political party you most closely align with doing to address your “essentials?” 
     
    Thats been your response every time. What does that have to do with it being essential or not? I never claimed they were going to solve anything. Just that they are essential.
    Let me know when 37 million Muricans are homeless. Or can’t drive because of gas prices. Or can’t afford food and die. See the differences between “essential” yet?
    Why does that matter? 37 million have to be homeless for homes to be essential? That doesnt make sense. Again, I'll say it for about the 5th time. I never said meds are not essential. I said BOTH can be, housing AND medicine. It is not either or. 

    But if you want to play that game, let me know when 37 million are going without insulin? Because its not even close to that, Most diabetics don't even need insulin, so your 37 million is out of nowhere. According to your post, 37 million have to starve and die for food to be essential. your analogy doesn't make sense. See the difference?
    they can both be essential without having the same level of importance, which, I believe, you already acknowledged/agreed with gimme on, so not sure why Halifax keeps poking at this. 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,962
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dude dont know when to quit.....

    Sanofi announces insulin price cap after actions by Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk

    Sanofi, along with Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, make up about 90% of the insulin market in the U.S. All three have announced price cuts or out-of-pocket caps in recent weeks.


    continues...


    Yes thank you Joe! 

    People can't afford gas, food, a mortgage but hey if we ever need insulin you got our backs. 

    I think as long as we have a secure border, secure banking and no threat of WW3 we should be good. 

    Four more years of this almost sounds too good to be true! 
    because gas and mortgage are essential for survival, lol

    also, a president does not control any of the other things. i'm sure you know this already, so keep up the clown posts.
    You don't think a affordable housing and gas are essentials?
    millions get along without owning a vehicle. 

    housing is a human right. but a house don't matter if you can't afford the medicine that saves your life. 
    True. But depending where you live and work, cars are very essential to some. Public transportation isn't reliable or practical for a lot of people who drive 20 miles to work. Not to mention when gas goes up, everything goes up. So skyrocketing gas prices will make groceries, that get delivered by trucks using gas, more expensive. And if you're already struggling then you can't afford it. Not to mention all the moms who drop kids off at childcare and have to rush back so they don't get charged a late pickup fee. They couldn't do that without a car, and most working moms that I know of are in that situation.
    And I could also argue that medicine doesn't matter if you're living on the street in a snow storm and freeze to death after you get free medicine.
    I'm just saying I disagree that housing and gas are not essential to most people and are real concerns for many people.  
    What solutions do you suggest for the high cost of gas, housing and inflation? What solutions does the political party that you most closely identify with suggest?
    I need to offer up solutions to say they are essential?
    I was just commenting that laughing off affordable housing and and gas as essentials is not accurate, because both are essential to most Americans. 
    How about telling us what the current unemployment and homelessness rates are? Versus the number of Americans suffering from diabetes.
    If you're so interested I'm sure you can look it up.
    I'm not sure how that is relevant to the topic though. Not every person with diabetes pays a lot for insulin. Some will no doubt have good insurance that covers most of the cost. So a straight up numbers comparison of homeless vs diabetic isn't going to tell us much.
    So I'm not sure why you're trying to argue housing nad gas aren't essential. Meds, housing and gas can all be essential, it is not an either or.
    POTUS negotiated a $35 price cap for a drug that 10s of millions of ‘Muricans rely upon to continue living and it appears that you’re complaining because gas, housing and inflation are high. Sounds like a faux news inspired criticism and complaint to me.

    Bring up the high cost of gas with the oil industry, housing with institutional investors and wealth funds and inflation with Putin on the ritz and Xi. All of which have started to move down if you’re paying attention.

    I’ll ask you again, what solutions does the political party you most closely align with offer as solutions to your pressing concerns of high gas, food, housing prices and inflation?
    When did I complain? I didn't bring up housing and gas. 
    Someone said housing and gas are not essential. I disagreed, and said they are essential too. That was it. 
    What is the political party you most closely align with doing to address your “essentials?” 
     
    Thats been your response every time. What does that have to do with it being essential or not? I never claimed they were going to solve anything. Just that they are essential.
    Let me know when 37 million Muricans are homeless. Or can’t drive because of gas prices. Or can’t afford food and die. See the differences between “essential” yet?
    Why does that matter? 37 million have to be homeless for homes to be essential? That doesnt make sense. Again, I'll say it for about the 5th time. I never said meds are not essential. I said BOTH can be, housing AND medicine. It is not either or. 

    But if you want to play that game, let me know when 37 million are going without insulin? Because its not even close to that, Most diabetics don't even need insulin, so your 37 million is out of nowhere. According to your post, 37 million have to starve and die for food to be essential. your analogy doesn't make sense. See the difference?
    they can both be essential without having the same level of importance, which, I believe, you already acknowledged/agreed with gimme on, so not sure why Halifax keeps poking at this. 
    Lol. You know why. We’ve all
    been here before, unfortunately. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,085
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
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    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    A quick google search provided this,

    https://cssrc.us/issue/actonhomelessness

    Proposals include addiction intervention and construction of shelters.

    California is home (no pun intended) to 30% of the nation's homeless. It had the highest growth of homeless. I'd be interested in seeing a plan from Newson that actually works. 
    The reason California is home to the homeless is because they don't kick them out.  Texas solved homelessness by evicting them. They didn't solve a problem,  they moved it.  It's a national issue that has no state level reasons. 
    this is the same way they are "fixing" the border problem.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,890
    Wait. Texas solved it homelessness problem? I work in Dallas. Tons of homeless here. Did some politician say Texas solved the problem?

    I'm betting you're being sarcastic Matt?
    Yes,  but to an extent.  A few weeks ago Fox had an article about some California R mayor that solved homelessness in his city.  But all he did was kick them out.  

    Zero tolerance is the only solution for issues driven by mental illness and addiction,  right?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/california-city-nearly-eliminates-homeless-population-zero-tolerance-policy-encampments.amp
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,085
    Wait. Texas solved it homelessness problem? I work in Dallas. Tons of homeless here. Did some politician say Texas solved the problem?

    I'm betting you're being sarcastic Matt?
    Can you shed any light on the Community First! Village outside of Austin? Maybe Static can? How its been received, the politics or any objections to their expansion, funding, etc. It'd be interesting to know whether tax payers fund any aspect of it.
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    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    he stated it, plain as day, in response to gimme. we (general we) know where he's coming from. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,085
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    he stated it, plain as day, in response to gimme. we (general we) know where he's coming from. 
    Congratulations.
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
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    Wait. Texas solved it homelessness problem? I work in Dallas. Tons of homeless here. Did some politician say Texas solved the problem?

    I'm betting you're being sarcastic Matt?
    Same in Austin. Seems to get worse as the real estate and rents creep up
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Wait. Texas solved it homelessness problem? I work in Dallas. Tons of homeless here. Did some politician say Texas solved the problem?

    I'm betting you're being sarcastic Matt?
    Can you shed any light on the Community First! Village outside of Austin? Maybe Static can? How its been received, the politics or any objections to their expansion, funding, etc. It'd be interesting to know whether tax payers fund any aspect of it.
    I haven't dug in depth in a while, definitely a worthwhile venture.  Recently I had heard concerns that there may have been some skimming of funds with the latest expansion, but I would have to dig deeper to see if there is any substance to the allegation.  Sadly as good of a program as it is, it is just a dent in the city's problem.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,108
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    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,085
    mace1229 said:
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
    You brought it up after it was brought up. For fucks sake.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,108
    mace1229 said:
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
    You brought it up after it was brought up. For fucks sake.
    But then you brought it up after I brought it up when someone else brought it up.
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
    You brought it up after it was brought up. For fucks sake.
    But then you brought it up after I brought it up when someone else brought it up.
    I don't know why you are still trying. I would have called it a wash by now.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,108
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
    You brought it up after it was brought up. For fucks sake.
    But then you brought it up after I brought it up when someone else brought it up.
    I don't know why you are still trying. I would have called it a wash by now.
    At this point its entertainment. Hopefully you didn't think that was a serious response by me.
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
    You brought it up after it was brought up. For fucks sake.
    But then you brought it up after I brought it up when someone else brought it up.
    I don't know why you are still trying. I would have called it a wash by now.
    At this point its entertainment. Hopefully you didn't think that was a serious response by me.
    ha
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,085
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
    You brought it up after it was brought up. For fucks sake.
    But then you brought it up after I brought it up when someone else brought it up.
    I’d still like to know what solutions the political party you most closely identify with has for your “essentials,” seeing how you don’t seem to believe reducing insulin costs was worthy. I guess CA repubs protecting religion is a sound policy goal. Wow.

    See I brought it up again because I’m trying to understand where you’re coming from as a conservative or repub. You rooting for Deathsantis? Think he’ll lower the costs of those “essentials?”

    I won’t wait for some convoluted answer that’s as clear as mud but I expect some poster’s seeming ability to get you.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,108
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
    You brought it up after it was brought up. For fucks sake.
    But then you brought it up after I brought it up when someone else brought it up.
    I’d still like to know what solutions the political party you most closely identify with has for your “essentials,” seeing how you don’t seem to believe reducing insulin costs was worthy. I guess CA repubs protecting religion is a sound policy goal. Wow.

    See I brought it up again because I’m trying to understand where you’re coming from as a conservative or repub. You rooting for Deathsantis? Think he’ll lower the costs of those “essentials?”

    I won’t wait for some convoluted answer that’s as clear as mud but I expect some poster’s seeming ability to get you.
    I have to admit, I do admire your creative way of reaching to these conclusions.
    I was going to copy and paste all of the times I said I am glad they cap medicine because it is too expensive. But decided not to. I've said it probably 5 times. But I will if you can quote where I said repubs protecting religion is a sound goal. That came out of nowhere, who was talking about protecting or not protecting religion?
    Closest thing to that was you took one line from a website I linked to answer your question "protect faith-based organizations that provide shelter and fund local government efforts to increase shelter capacity" and asked me what "protecting faith based organizations" means. I said it probably means offering financial support to organizations like a church that provide shelters and food to homeless. And why not? If a church is willing to use their facility to feed homeless, why not provide some aide in that?
    I look forward to your newest creative interpretation. 

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,214
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
    You brought it up after it was brought up. For fucks sake.
    But then you brought it up after I brought it up when someone else brought it up.
    LMAO
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,085
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mace brought up housing, food, gas as essential as if in his typical “gee why doesn’t someone do something about those things” in the context of Brandon reducing insulin costs by two thirds through a major piece of legislation, legislation not supported by many repubs, by the way, that impacted Medicare and thus trickled down to all Americans dependent on insulin to survive, in a lame attempt to be critical of Brandon and dem policies. It, IMHO, was a dumb attempt at a knock on a policy that clearly has a positive outcome for millions of Americans. Couldn’t he have celebrated that accomplishment?

    So let me ask, would you right leaning folks on here be agreeable to dems or repubs introducing legislation that reduces the cost of “essentials” like food, housing and gas or inflation by two thirds for a portion of Americans, and by extension, many more?

    Mace also chose California as his example so I’ll tell you what Tennessee did to solve their homelessness. They made it illegal to “camp” in public rights of way like under overpasses, medians, wooded areas, parks, etc. I suppose three hots and a cot is housing.

    There is an ignore feature if you’re scared to share your thoughts or don’t like comments. I suggest you use it (general you). Sorry, not sorry that trying to understand where the fuck someone is coming from is such a pain for some. Maybe think before you hit send as I wonder if anyone doesn’t understand my position and needs me to clarify? Carry on.
    I didn’t bring it up. That’s what made it weird you wouldn’t let it go for something I didn’t bring up in the first place.
    You brought it up after it was brought up. For fucks sake.
    But then you brought it up after I brought it up when someone else brought it up.
    I’d still like to know what solutions the political party you most closely identify with has for your “essentials,” seeing how you don’t seem to believe reducing insulin costs was worthy. I guess CA repubs protecting religion is a sound policy goal. Wow.

    See I brought it up again because I’m trying to understand where you’re coming from as a conservative or repub. You rooting for Deathsantis? Think he’ll lower the costs of those “essentials?”

    I won’t wait for some convoluted answer that’s as clear as mud but I expect some poster’s seeming ability to get you.
    I have to admit, I do admire your creative way of reaching to these conclusions.
    I was going to copy and paste all of the times I said I am glad they cap medicine because it is too expensive. But decided not to. I've said it probably 5 times. But I will if you can quote where I said repubs protecting religion is a sound goal. That came out of nowhere, who was talking about protecting or not protecting religion?
    Closest thing to that was you took one line from a website I linked to answer your question "protect faith-based organizations that provide shelter and fund local government efforts to increase shelter capacity" and asked me what "protecting faith based organizations" means. I said it probably means offering financial support to organizations like a church that provide shelters and food to homeless. And why not? If a church is willing to use their facility to feed homeless, why not provide some aide in that?
    I look forward to your newest creative interpretation. 

    Do you read the links you post?
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