I am glad/relieved Trump is no longer at the helm of a nuclear power. Unfortunately, I think Biden's timid/moderate style of politics is just going to disappoint (much like Obama did) and we will get another Trump term or from a way more intelligent/evil right wing populist if not in 2024, definitely in 2028.
As for the "Dems were burning down our cities in 2020" narrative... it is patently false. Those of us who actually live in these cities can attest that. No city was burnt down, and protests were overwhelmingly peaceful and non-violent. The only ones who believe otherwise watch and listen to way too much scaremongering right wing media.
It is claimed that there was between $1-$2 billion worth of damage in these riots(most expensive riots in history). Did Fox new make that up?
I'd love for any of the folks making that disingenuous argument to show me pictures of the looters/rioters sportin' their Biden gear! Spoiler alert, they cannot produce such photos.
You cannot address Hillary's actual quote, can you?
I am talking about your quote and the narrative that this message board pushes pull of hatred.
So you agree she was right I guess. lol
If you want to clump in 50% of a group of people without facts, that is bigotry, is it not?
What percentage would be acceptable to you?
The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts.
See, you've boxed yourself into a corner and cannot figure a way out. It's tough defending deplorable behavior, isn't it?
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
What are you even talking about there? In 2016, Hillary said
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”
So what are you arguing? Is it that the 50% number is too high? I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill. If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct. It's bigotry. It's also bigotry to despise Nazis. So what?
You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.
Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?
Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?
1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them. Way to miss the point.
2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down". There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is. I don't see them as 'deplorable'.
But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame. Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc.
There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.
Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify. I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.
tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups 1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance. 2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter. 3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running
So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.
Well....it's kind of hard to say that you support tRump without being in one of those categories
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The Juggler
Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,536
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
What are you even talking about there? In 2016, Hillary said
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”
So what are you arguing? Is it that the 50% number is too high? I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill. If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct. It's bigotry. It's also bigotry to despise Nazis. So what?
You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.
Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?
Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?
1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them. Way to miss the point.
2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down". There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is. I don't see them as 'deplorable'.
But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame. Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc.
There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.
Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify. I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.
tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups 1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance. 2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter. 3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running
So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.
What percentage of Trump's base would you be comfortable with labeling as deplorable? 0?
Totally do not expect a real answer, but figured I'd try one more time.
Patience is a virtue.....
Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."
See, you've boxed yourself into a corner and cannot figure a way out. It's tough defending deplorable behavior, isn't it?
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
What are you even talking about there? In 2016, Hillary said
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”
So what are you arguing? Is it that the 50% number is too high? I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill. If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct. It's bigotry. It's also bigotry to despise Nazis. So what?
You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.
Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?
Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?
1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them. Way to miss the point.
2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down". There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is. I don't see them as 'deplorable'.
But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame. Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc.
There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.
Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify. I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.
tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups 1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance. 2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter. 3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running
So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.
What percentage of Trump's base would you be comfortable with labeling as deplorable? 0?
Totally do not expect a real answer, but figured I'd try one more time.
Patience is a virtue.....
Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."
So even if we said 10, you'd challenge that until you had the names and the personal manifestos or statements of those individuals. Hopefully you know better.
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The Juggler
Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,536
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
What are you even talking about there? In 2016, Hillary said
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”
So what are you arguing? Is it that the 50% number is too high? I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill. If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct. It's bigotry. It's also bigotry to despise Nazis. So what?
You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.
Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?
Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?
1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them. Way to miss the point.
2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down". There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is. I don't see them as 'deplorable'.
But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame. Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc.
There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.
Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify. I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.
tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups 1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance. 2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter. 3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running
So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.
What percentage of Trump's base would you be comfortable with labeling as deplorable? 0?
Totally do not expect a real answer, but figured I'd try one more time.
Patience is a virtue.....
Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."
So even if we said 10, you'd challenge that until you had the names and the personal manifestos or statements of those individuals. Hopefully you know better.
If being against racism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot. If being against homophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against xenophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against misogynism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against liars makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being aagainst anti-semitism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against orange skinned people who want to be dictators makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
What are you even talking about there? In 2016, Hillary said
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”
So what are you arguing? Is it that the 50% number is too high? I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill. If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct. It's bigotry. It's also bigotry to despise Nazis. So what?
You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.
Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?
Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?
1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them. Way to miss the point.
2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down". There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is. I don't see them as 'deplorable'.
But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame. Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc.
There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.
Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify. I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.
tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups 1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance. 2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter. 3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running
Slugs for salt.
Perfect.
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If being against racism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot. If being against homophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against xenophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against misogynism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against liars makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being aagainst anti-semitism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against orange skinned people who want to be dictators makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
Do you think all Trump voters are deplorable? That's what we are talking about here!
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
What are you even talking about there? In 2016, Hillary said
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”
So what are you arguing? Is it that the 50% number is too high? I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill. If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct. It's bigotry. It's also bigotry to despise Nazis. So what?
You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.
Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?
Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?
1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them. Way to miss the point.
2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down". There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is. I don't see them as 'deplorable'.
But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame. Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc.
There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.
Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify. I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.
tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups 1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance. 2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter. 3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running
So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.
What percentage of Trump's base would you be comfortable with labeling as deplorable? 0?
Totally do not expect a real answer, but figured I'd try one more time.
Patience is a virtue.....
Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."
We'll put together a poll average. Whatever percentage of R's believe the election was stolen, well, that's your number.
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
What are you even talking about there? In 2016, Hillary said
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”
So what are you arguing? Is it that the 50% number is too high? I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill. If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct. It's bigotry. It's also bigotry to despise Nazis. So what?
You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.
Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?
Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?
1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them. Way to miss the point.
2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down". There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is. I don't see them as 'deplorable'.
But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame. Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc.
There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.
Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify. I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.
tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups 1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance. 2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter. 3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running
So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.
What percentage of Trump's base would you be comfortable with labeling as deplorable? 0?
Totally do not expect a real answer, but figured I'd try one more time.
Patience is a virtue.....
Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."
See, you've boxed yourself into a corner and cannot figure a way out. It's tough defending deplorable behavior, isn't it?
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
Joe Biden has a decades-long habit of making overtly racist remarks,
taking discriminatory positions and cavorting with known racists.
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
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^ The disingenuousness is strong with this one.
Hey look! A google search found 4 questionable racist things Joe Biden said in the last 45 years. You can find 4 things per day on Donald Trump in the same timeframe.
If being against racism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot. If being against homophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against xenophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against misogynism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against liars makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being aagainst anti-semitism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot If being against orange skinned people who want to be dictators makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
Do you think all Trump voters are deplorable? That's what we are talking about here!
Yes I do
The Buddhists teach that support of evil in any way shape or form, which includes voting, makes one evil as well. Such that any support of racism, a racist, or racist policies including voting makes one a racist as well. And so and so on.
You can throw whatever arguments you want at me. I know that in the long run I have made the right choice.
Hey look! A google search found 4 questionable racist things Joe Biden said in the last 45 years. You can find 4 things per day on Donald Trump in the same timeframe.
A racist is still a racist.....
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Hey look! A google search found 4 questionable racist things Joe Biden said in the last 45 years. You can find 4 things per day on Donald Trump in the same timeframe.
A racist is still a racist.....
By that logic then, Donald Trump must really, really, really be racist then. AMIRITE!?!?!?
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Do you really want to have this discussion? Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance? Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation? Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.
Hey look! A google search found 4 questionable racist things Joe Biden said in the last 45 years. You can find 4 things per day on Donald Trump in the same timeframe.
A racist is still a racist.....
By that logic then, Donald Trump must really, really, really be racist then. AMIRITE!?!?!?
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
What are you even talking about there? In 2016, Hillary said
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”
So what are you arguing? Is it that the 50% number is too high? I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill. If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct. It's bigotry. It's also bigotry to despise Nazis. So what?
You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.
Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?
Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?
1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them. Way to miss the point.
2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down". There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is. I don't see them as 'deplorable'.
But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame. Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc.
There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.
Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify. I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.
tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups 1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance. 2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter. 3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Do you really want to have this discussion? Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance? Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation? Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.
Yes. Let's dig into this. "You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent."
Please tell me how this is not a racist remark......
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Do you really want to have this discussion? Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance? Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation? Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.
Do you know something about Obama that I am unaware of? "In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”"
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The Juggler
Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,536
We had a discussion recently about how there used to be Republicans here who could argue their points and have rational, yet very heated, discussions.
Now? It's just this same disingenuous bullshit all the time.
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Do you really want to have this discussion? Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance? Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation? Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.
Maybe you should have this conversation with Kamala.... Remember when she called Biden out for racism..... and then went on a late night talk show and just laughed it off? "It was a debate...... hahahaha..."
We had a discussion recently about how there used to be Republicans here who could argue their points and have rational, yet very heated, discussions.
Now? It's just this same disingenuous bullshit all the time.
You want to talk about a rational discussion? You're the one personally attacking me! Kat already had to edit one of your posts today because you can't keep from name calling.
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Do you really want to have this discussion? Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance? Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation? Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.
Maybe you should have this conversation with Kamala.... Remember when she called Biden out for racism..... and then went on a late night talk show and just laughed it off? "It was a debate...... hahahaha..."
are you seriously arguing the merits of voting for trump over biden because of....racism?
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Do you really want to have this discussion? Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance? Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation? Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.
Maybe you should have this conversation with Kamala.... Remember when she called Biden out for racism..... and then went on a late night talk show and just laughed it off? "It was a debate...... hahahaha..."
are you seriously arguing the merits of voting for trump over biden because of....racism?
I'm pointing out the hypocrisy. You'll call our Trump for his racism but you won't do the same for Biden.
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The Juggler
Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,536
We had a discussion recently about how there used to be Republicans here who could argue their points and have rational, yet very heated, discussions.
Now? It's just this same disingenuous bullshit all the time.
You want to talk about a rational discussion? You're the one personally attacking me! Kat already had to edit one of your posts today because you can't keep from name calling.
Seriously? What did I say that upset you so much? Honestly don't know what you're talking about. If you are so upset about something, I'm sorry but wish you'd DM instead of running to a moderator.
Let's get back on track. What do you take issue with regarding Hillary's actual quote here? Seriously? And do you think any portion of Trump's base exhibits this behavior? If so, what percentage of them do, generally speaking. Curious to your response, if you'd like to have a reasonable conversation:
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
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Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,536
Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency. Classless.
Why would they? TFG didn't and still doesn't Their supporters certainly don't They're trash
Some might say, “Deplorables.”
Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that.
This is pure bigotry.
Nah. It's entirely accurate.
Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief,
opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people
on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
How is bigotry OK?
It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?
How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.
Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....
So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.
Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?
Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.
74 million people voted to keep him in office. 74 MILLION. after the 4 years of the "let's give him a chance" went by, and they thought it was a good idea to give him another 4 year chance, after bungling a pandemic, being an utter and total embarrassment on the world stage, cozying up to autocrats, yadda yadda yadda.
I also agree not every one of them is deplorable. that's just plain silly to say. But what they are, is so entrenched in their politics that they were willing to swallow their disgust for the man only because he had an R beside his name. I'd say that's a much bigger problem.
74M tacitly approved of tfg's overt racism & misogyny.
correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now.
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Do you really want to have this discussion? Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance? Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation? Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.
Maybe you should have this conversation with Kamala.... Remember when she called Biden out for racism..... and then went on a late night talk show and just laughed it off? "It was a debate...... hahahaha..."
are you seriously arguing the merits of voting for trump over biden because of....racism?
I'm pointing out the hypocrisy. You'll call our Trump for his racism but you won't do the same for Biden.
Trump exhibits racist behavior on a daily basis. Your own google research found less than five instances on Biden going back to the Ford administration. See the difference?
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Go ahead, say "bigot" again. lol
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2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
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Go ahead, say "bigot" again. lol
If being against homophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
If being against xenophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
If being against misogynism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
If being against liars makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
If being aagainst anti-semitism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
If being against orange skinned people who want to be dictators makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
We'll put together a poll average. Whatever percentage of R's believe the election was stolen, well, that's your number.
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In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
The disingenuousness is strong with this one.
Hey look! A google search found 4 questionable racist things Joe Biden said in the last 45 years. You can find 4 things per day on Donald Trump in the same timeframe.
The Buddhists teach that support of evil in any way shape or form, which includes voting, makes one evil as well.
Such that any support of racism, a racist, or racist policies including voting makes one a racist as well.
And so and so on.
You can throw whatever arguments you want at me. I know that in the long run I have made the right choice.
Now? It's just this same disingenuous bullshit all the time.
You're the one personally attacking me! Kat already had to edit one of your posts today because you can't keep from name calling.
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Let's get back on track. What do you take issue with regarding Hillary's actual quote here? Seriously? And do you think any portion of Trump's base exhibits this behavior? If so, what percentage of them do, generally speaking. Curious to your response, if you'd like to have a reasonable conversation:
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”