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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    cincybearcat said:
    tbergs said:
    Is this where we go to try to discuss things? We're losing threads. 
    This is a good day. Coronavirus and The cancel culture have both been cancelled!
    Makes sense. Those were both liberal threads so it only makes sense a thread about the GOP remains open no matter what happens.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,426
     
    Conservative group boasts of secret role in voting laws
    By NICHOLAS RICCARDI and ANTHONY IZAGUIRRE
    2 hours ago

    The head of a national conservative group that is spending $24 million to push new voting restrictions told supporters it secretly helped draft legislation in Republican-controlled statehouses across the country.

    Jessica Anderson, executive director of Heritage Action, made the claim during a recent meeting with supporters in Arizona. A recording of the event was released by the liberal investigative website Documented, which made a copy available for The Associated Press to review. Heritage Action confirmed its authenticity.

    “In some cases, we actually draft them for them,” Anderson said of legislation written for state lawmakers. “Or we have a sentinel on our behalf give them the model legislation, so it has that grassroots, from-the-bottom-up type of vibe.”

    Anderson's comments shed additional light on precisely how well-funded national organizations have seized on false claims about the 2020 election to try to tighten state voting laws. While it is known that Heritage Action and several other groups are working with state lawmakers on legislation, it is rare to hear a leader detail how the group masks involvement to give the bills the appearance of broad political support.

    Anderson gave the example of Georgia, where she said an activist affiliated with Heritage had given a letter outlining the group's recommendations to key legislators. The activist first had the proposal signed by thousands of other activists. Other states where she said the group helped write bills included Iowa and Texas.

    In a statement Friday, Anderson said: “Heritage Action is proud of our work to make it easier to vote and harder to cheat. That work begins at the state level through our grassroots and continues in state legislatures throughout the country.”

    Heritage Action is one of several Republican-affiliated groups that jumped into elections issues for the first time after former President Donald Trump’s false claims about election fraud led to the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. The lies also have fanned deep suspicions about the integrity of the country’s voting systems among GOP activists and donors — Anderson noted Heritage activists cited it as a top issue in a survey — and led to new laws in Georgia, Florida, Iowa, Kansas and other states.

    Democrats have argued that the laws make it harder for people to vote, and disproportionally affect Black, Latino, young and other Democratic-leaning voters. Republicans argue the tougher rules will guard against fraud and are needed to restore trust in the election system.

    Heritage Action announced its effort in March, saying it would push legislation in eight battleground states based on model principles formulated by its parent organization, the conservative Heritage Foundation. Hans von Spakovsky, the foundation's top voting expert and a former member of Trump's 2017 election fraud commission, appeared at the event with Anderson and boasted of regularly talking with Republican secretaries of state. Anderson added that Heritage Action had just had a “huge” call with secretaries of state, who often serve as a state's chief elections official.

    Anderson also said the group runs a Tuesday call to “give marching orders” to other conservative organizations that have just launched voting pushes, including the anti-abortion rights Susan B. Anthony List and the small government group FreedomWorks.

    Anderson took credit for an Arizona law that bans donations to election offices from outside groups. The law was meant to fight back against $300 million in donations from Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg last year. She also claimed credit for a controversial provision in Iowa that moves voters to inactive status after missing a single election.

    “Iowa is the first state that we got to work in, and we did it quickly and we did it quietly," Anderson said. "We helped draft the bills. ... Honestly, nobody even noticed. My team looked at each other, and we’re like, ‘it can’t be that easy.’”

    Iowa Republicans who worked on the voting legislation have said they had no contact with Heritage. In March, Republican state Rep. Bobby Kaufmann, who wrote the legislation, told The Associated Press that he had not talked to Heritage or any other outside groups. On Friday, he reiterated that denial.

    “Heritage is telling a bold-faced lie,” Kaufmann said. Asked if claiming credit for the bills was a fundraising technique, Kaufmann replied: “That's exactly what it is.”

    At the event, Anderson said there was another task besides simply passing new laws. Many Republicans fear that their voters lost trust in the system due to Trump’s allegations and then in Georgia didn’t cast ballots during two January Senate run-offs, which Democrats won. Heritage wants to make sure conservative voters hear that voting rules are being tightened to prevent fraud.

    “It's our job to tell them that was done, with the hope that it will restore voter confidence and let people return to the polls in 2022,” Anderson said.

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    Riccardi reported from Denver and Izaguirre from Lindenhurst, New York. Michael Biesecker in Washington and Ryan J. Foley in Iowa City, Iowa, contributed.


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  • Merkin Baller
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    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    tbergs said:
    Is this where we go to try to discuss things? We're losing threads. 
    This is a good day. Coronavirus and The cancel culture have both been cancelled!
    Makes sense. Those were both liberal threads so it only makes sense a thread about the GOP remains open no matter what happens.
    "We're all victims" 
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    According to the Club for Growth, a conservative pro-business group, Ilhan Omar has a higher “conservative” voter rating than Elsie Stefanik, the new third-ranking member of the house GOP.


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    jerparker20 said:
    According to the Club for Growth, a conservative pro-business group, Ilhan Omar has a higher “conservative” voter rating than Elsie Stefanik, the new third-ranking member of the house GOP.


    Cult of personality... that's all it is.  That's worse than I thought, but I knew she was pretty liberal. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    From Heather Cox-Richardson's letter today:

    "This morning, as expected, the House Republicans elected Elise Stefanik (R-NY), Trump’s choice for conference chair, to replace Representative Liz Cheney (R-WY). This means that the four top House Republican leaders—Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA), Stefanik, and Policy Committee Chair Gary Palmer (R-AL)—all voted to overturn Biden’s 2020 victory after the January 6 attack on the Capitol."

    Go ahead, GOP, shoot your other foot.

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    jerparker20 said:
    According to the Club for Growth, a conservative pro-business group, Ilhan Omar has a higher “conservative” voter rating than Elsie Stefanik, the new third-ranking member of the house GOP.


    But a much lower Trump Boot Licking rating.  
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,221
    They know she keeps a hood in the closet.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Can you spell P-A-R-D-O-N?

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,221
    These guys really are all in with POOTWH.

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  • mickeyrat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    These guys really are all in with POOTWH.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/18/politics/kevin-mccarthy-opposes-1-6-commission/index.html

    doesnt want to testify.....
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,426
    feels like a stalling tactic...

    ·
    MAY 18, 2021, 5:59 PM

    Senate Republicans don't offer Biden aides new infrastructure plan

    Susan Cornwell, Makini Brice

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Republican lawmakers met on Tuesday with top officials from President Joe Biden’s administration to seek common ground on an infrastructure proposal but did not unveil a new plan of their own, according to a congressional aide.

    FILE PHOTO: Senator Shelly Moore Capito (R-WV) speaks at the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee hearing on proposed budget estimates and justification for FY2018 for the Treasury Department on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S. July 26, 2017. REUTERS/Eric Thayer

    Senator Shelly Moore Capito, who is leading the Republican effort, has announced a $568 billion plan here, far short of Biden's $2.3 trillion plan package. A bipartisan group of senators has discussed a package of roughly $1 trillion.

    Capito was one of several Republicans meeting with Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg and Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo at the U.S. Capitol.

    Biden’s administration has said it is willing to work with Republicans but also will forge ahead with only Democratic support if necessary. The White House had set a Tuesday deadline for any Republican counter-proposal, but Republicans were not likely to meet it, Capito spokeswoman Kelly Moore said.

    Biden’s mammoth infrastructure proposal includes traditional projects to revitalize roads and bridges, but would also seek to address climate change and social issues such as elder care. The president said he would pay for the plan by raising taxes on U.S. corporations.

    Republicans have rejected Biden’s proposal as too broad and too expensive and instead have sought to reach a bipartisan deal that focuses on roads, bridges, waterways and broadband access.

    Democrats have floated a two-track approach that would include a smaller bipartisan package, as well as more sweeping legislation that they could enact without Republican support through a process known as reconciliation.

    Reporting by Susan Cornwell and Makini Brice, writing by Andy Sullivan; Editing by Scott Malone and Cynthia Osterman


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,221
    Only the best woke people folks. Only the best.

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    Giuliani's son is running for Governor against Cuomo.

    Should be interesting.

    He will win most likely.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    NY is hugely democratic and the Guilani name is trash now. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Giuliani's son is running for Governor against Cuomo.

    Should be interesting.

    He will win most likely.

    If ever there was an open door for a third-party challenger...
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    OnWis97 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Giuliani's son is running for Governor against Cuomo.

    Should be interesting.

    He will win most likely.

    If ever there was an open door for a third-party challenger...
    A decent democrat could.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    NY is hugely democratic and the Guilani name is trash now. 
    Not for the people that live here.  They still love the guy.  The democrats is a different story.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    they still love Rudy? seriously?
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  • mrussel1
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    NY is hugely democratic and the Guilani name is trash now. 
    Not for the people that live here.  They still love the guy.  The democrats is a different story.
    There's zero chance Guil wins.  He has no experience,  no knowledge and a republican.  Zero.
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