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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 26,494
    I really don't understand why we don't just sedate the person being executed and then do a lethal injection.  Why do we have to go through the drama of electrocution, gas, firing squad, etc?  How stupid.

    Because the pharmaceutical companies have increasingly refused to allow their drugs to be used for execution.
    of course. big pharma is worried more about the bottom line and optics than human suffering. 
    So are you trying to argue that they should be compelled to allow their drugs to be used for executions with the argument that this will avoid suffering? You’re taking the utilitarian stance that it’s going to happen anyway and there’s no point in trying to object to executions? 
    no. 

    I highly doubt big pharma gives two shits about objecting to executions. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 27,141
    I really don't understand why we don't just sedate the person being executed and then do a lethal injection.  Why do we have to go through the drama of electrocution, gas, firing squad, etc?  How stupid.

    Because the pharmaceutical companies have increasingly refused to allow their drugs to be used for execution.
    of course. big pharma is worried more about the bottom line and optics than human suffering. 
    So are you trying to argue that they should be compelled to allow their drugs to be used for executions with the argument that this will avoid suffering? You’re taking the utilitarian stance that it’s going to happen anyway and there’s no point in trying to object to executions? 
    no. 

    I highly doubt big pharma gives two shits about objecting to executions. 
    Pfizer.  This also happened in AZ.  I remember reading about it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/us/pfizer-execution-drugs-lethal-injection.html
    See they have ethics, lol!!!
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,733
    mrussel1 said:
    I really don't understand why we don't just sedate the person being executed and then do a lethal injection.  Why do we have to go through the drama of electrocution, gas, firing squad, etc?  How stupid.

    Because the pharmaceutical companies have increasingly refused to allow their drugs to be used for execution.
    of course. big pharma is worried more about the bottom line and optics than human suffering. 
    So are you trying to argue that they should be compelled to allow their drugs to be used for executions with the argument that this will avoid suffering? You’re taking the utilitarian stance that it’s going to happen anyway and there’s no point in trying to object to executions? 
    I don't object to executions if done properly.  I am to the point though where the red tape that it causes just isn't worth it to the tax payer anymore.
    And that whole "the guy is actually innocent thing" too.  I mean yeah it's a hassle and a cost to the taxpayer.  Those are the primary concerns.  But somewhere around concern #31, the person might be innocent.  So yeah...
    To be executed, for me, it has to be beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Film footage, heinous crime, multiple witness'.  
    I'd love to be a defense attorney if that were the rule. "You say my client's level of guilt does not meet the certainty necessary for capital punishment. Then I submit to you that it doesn't meet the certainty necessary for conviction." (acquittal) 

    It's just not that important for the state to be killing people.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 27,141
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I really don't understand why we don't just sedate the person being executed and then do a lethal injection.  Why do we have to go through the drama of electrocution, gas, firing squad, etc?  How stupid.

    Because the pharmaceutical companies have increasingly refused to allow their drugs to be used for execution.
    of course. big pharma is worried more about the bottom line and optics than human suffering. 
    So are you trying to argue that they should be compelled to allow their drugs to be used for executions with the argument that this will avoid suffering? You’re taking the utilitarian stance that it’s going to happen anyway and there’s no point in trying to object to executions? 
    I don't object to executions if done properly.  I am to the point though where the red tape that it causes just isn't worth it to the tax payer anymore.
    And that whole "the guy is actually innocent thing" too.  I mean yeah it's a hassle and a cost to the taxpayer.  Those are the primary concerns.  But somewhere around concern #31, the person might be innocent.  So yeah...
    To be executed, for me, it has to be beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Film footage, heinous crime, multiple witness'.  
    I'd love to be a defense attorney if that were the rule. "You say my client's level of guilt does not meet the certainty necessary for capital punishment. Then I submit to you that it doesn't meet the certainty necessary for conviction." (acquittal) 

    It's just not that important for the state to be killing people.
    Actually that would be up to the Jury.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 21,331
    no agenda or policy stances worked do well for 2020......

    Trump's grievances cloud Republican agenda heading into 2022
    By STEVE PEOPLES and GARY D. ROBERTSON
    2 hours ago

    RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Republicans are fighting to seize control of Congress. Just don't ask what they'd do if they win.

    Look no further for evidence of the GOP's muddled governing agenda than battleground North Carolina, where party leaders packed into a convention hall Saturday night to cheer former President Donald Trump. Even with a high-stakes U.S. Senate election looming, the Republicans there were united not by any consistent set of conservative policies or principles, but by Trump's groundless grievances about the 2020 election and his attacks against critics in both parties.

    The lack of a forward-looking agenda stands in stark contrast to successful midterm elections of past years, particularly 1994 and 2010, when Republicans swept into power after staking clear positions on health care, federal spending and crime, among other issues. Without such a strategy heading into 2022, Republicans on the ballot risk allowing themselves to be wholly defined by Trump, who lost his last election by 7 million votes nationally and has seen his popularity slide further, even among some Republicans, since leaving office in January.

    Former US President Donald Trump on Saturday pushed Republicans to support those candidates who share his values in next year's midterm elections as he launched a new more active phase of his post presidency. (June 5)

    “I’m unaware of a GOP agenda. I would love to see one,” said Texas-based conservative activist and former tea party leader Mark Meckler.

    “Nobody knows what they’re about,” he said of today's Republicans. “They do this at their own peril.”

    The GOP’s embrace of Trump’s self-serving priorities has almost completely consumed the party’s long-standing commitment to fiscal discipline, free markets and even the rule of law. That leaves Republican candidates from North Carolina to North Dakota unwilling or unable to tell voters how they would address the nation’s biggest challenges if given the chance.

    Party leaders acknowledge it could be another year or more before Republicans develop a clear governing agenda. In the meantime, Trump, who is focused on the past far more than the future, plans to become a regular campaign fixture again. Building on Saturday's North Carolina appearance, his advisers are eying potential rallies in states with top Senate races in 2020, including Ohio, Florida, Alabama and Georgia.

    In an interview, Florida Sen. Rick Scott, who leads the Senate Republican political arm, offered a lukewarm response when asked about Trump's role in the upcoming campaign.

    “We both want to take back the majority in 2022. I tell him what I’m doing, and I’d love to get his support,” Scott said of Trump.

    He balked when asked whether Trump should serve as the face of the Republican Party for the midterms, when control of the House, Senate and dozens of governorships are at stake.

    “The face of the party is each individual race,” Scott said, noting that there will be hundreds of Republican candidates on midterm ballots. “The party is those people, it’s not one person, it’s not one person’s agenda."

    For now, when Republicans are not aligning themselves with Trump, they're focusing much of their energy on culture wars and railing against President Joe Biden's agenda. Biden, backed by narrow Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, has already adopted a $1.9 trillion pandemic relief package that was widely popular among voters. Now, he's pushing a massive infrastructure package that polls suggest could be equally popular.

    Gov. Larry Hogan, R-Md., worries that Republicans could squander built-in advantages in their quest to win back control of Congress and expand their advantage with governorships. In recent history, the party out of the White House has almost always made significant gains in the first midterm election of a new presidency.

    Democrats will lose control of Congress if Republicans flip just five seats in the House and only one in the Senate.

    “The only way we can screw it up is with Donald Trump,” Hogan told The Associated Press, lamenting that Republicans in Washington are consumed by infighting and “swearing fealty to one individual.”

    The two-term governor and frequent Trump critic continued: “I’m really kind of frustrated with the fact that the Republican Party doesn’t seem to be focused on an agenda. It doesn't seem to be focused on putting up coherent arguments for what people care about."

    Some Republican leaders close to Trump are encouraging him to look to the future.

    The former president is set to meet this week with the chairman of the Republican Study Committee, Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana, to begin discussing the party's policy prescriptions should the GOP retake the House majority next year.

    Trump has met privately with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., in recent weeks to discuss the creation of policy document in line with Gingrich's famous “Contract With America,” which outlined a clear and concise Republican agenda before the GOP's 1994 midterm success.

    Trump adviser Jason Miller said it's “a bit of an overreach” to suggest Trump is actively working with Gingrich to create the document.

    In the meantime, Republican candidates in key Senate contests, North Carolina among them, are struggling to offer voters a clear vision for what they would do if elected as they fight for Trump's endorsement.

    At least three Republicans are competing to succeed retiring North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr, who was censured by state party leaders for supporting Trump's impeachment in February. The Republican nomination fight features former Gov. Pat McCrory, current Rep. Ted Budd and former Rep. Mark Walker.

    After Trump's daughter-in-law Lara Trump bowed out of the race over the weekend, Trump formally endorsed Budd, the only candidate in the Republican primary who voted against certifying Trump's 2020 election loss.

    Walker had called himself the most “pro-Trump congressman from North Carolina" but that apparently was not enough to win Trump's backing.

    Beyond courting Trump, Budd has also played up the GOP’s culture wars. In his kickoff video, the gun store owner addressed growing immigration at the border with Mexico and the decision by Dr. Seuss' publisher to stop printing some of the popular children's book author's books because of racist imagery. Budd said he read the books to his children “and they turned out just fine.”

    Trump slapped at McCrory in Saturday's address by reminding voters, without using his name, that the former Republican governor had previously lost two elections.

    McCrory, who hails from the GOP's business wing, has embraced elements of Trump’s agenda, but has been critical of Trump's false claims about election fraud.

    “I’m not going to be diverted by talking about the past because I care about the future,” he told the AP in April.

    With 17 months before the 2022 general election and few voters paying close attention to the midterm jockeying, Republicans have time to develop an agenda that moves beyond Trump's grievances and conservative culture wars.

    But it's unclear whether there is sufficient political will.

    Scott, the Florida senator, said his party must ultimately communicate what it’s for — instead of simply what it’s against. But he noted that the "Contract With America” was released only two months before the 1994 election.

    “I don’t know if there will be a real contract for America, or everybody will just be more consistent with what they’re talking about,” Scott said of the Republican agenda in months ahead.

    On Trump, Scott added, “I think he's going to be helpful.”

    ___

    Peoples reported from New York.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    edited June 6
    mickeyrat said:
    no agenda or policy stances worked do well for 2020......

    Trump's grievances cloud Republican agenda heading into 2022
    By STEVE PEOPLES and GARY D. ROBERTSON
    2 hours ago

    RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Republicans are fighting to seize control of Congress. Just don't ask what they'd do if they win.

    Look no further for evidence of the GOP's muddled governing agenda than battleground North Carolina, where party leaders packed into a convention hall Saturday night to cheer former President Donald Trump. Even with a high-stakes U.S. Senate election looming, the Republicans there were united not by any consistent set of conservative policies or principles, but by Trump's groundless grievances about the 2020 election and his attacks against critics in both parties.

    The lack of a forward-looking agenda stands in stark contrast to successful midterm elections of past years, particularly 1994 and 2010, when Republicans swept into power after staking clear positions on health care, federal spending and crime, among other issues. Without such a strategy heading into 2022, Republicans on the ballot risk allowing themselves to be wholly defined by Trump, who lost his last election by 7 million votes nationally and has seen his popularity slide further, even among some Republicans, since leaving office in January.

    Former US President Donald Trump on Saturday pushed Republicans to support those candidates who share his values in next year's midterm elections as he launched a new more active phase of his post presidency. (June 5)

    “I’m unaware of a GOP agenda. I would love to see one,” said Texas-based conservative activist and former tea party leader Mark Meckler.

    “Nobody knows what they’re about,” he said of today's Republicans. “They do this at their own peril.”

    The GOP’s embrace of Trump’s self-serving priorities has almost completely consumed the party’s long-standing commitment to fiscal discipline, free markets and even the rule of law. That leaves Republican candidates from North Carolina to North Dakota unwilling or unable to tell voters how they would address the nation’s biggest challenges if given the chance.

    Party leaders acknowledge it could be another year or more before Republicans develop a clear governing agenda. In the meantime, Trump, who is focused on the past far more than the future, plans to become a regular campaign fixture again. Building on Saturday's North Carolina appearance, his advisers are eying potential rallies in states with top Senate races in 2020, including Ohio, Florida, Alabama and Georgia.

    In an interview, Florida Sen. Rick Scott, who leads the Senate Republican political arm, offered a lukewarm response when asked about Trump's role in the upcoming campaign.

    “We both want to take back the majority in 2022. I tell him what I’m doing, and I’d love to get his support,” Scott said of Trump.

    He balked when asked whether Trump should serve as the face of the Republican Party for the midterms, when control of the House, Senate and dozens of governorships are at stake.

    “The face of the party is each individual race,” Scott said, noting that there will be hundreds of Republican candidates on midterm ballots. “The party is those people, it’s not one person, it’s not one person’s agenda."

    For now, when Republicans are not aligning themselves with Trump, they're focusing much of their energy on culture wars and railing against President Joe Biden's agenda. Biden, backed by narrow Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, has already adopted a $1.9 trillion pandemic relief package that was widely popular among voters. Now, he's pushing a massive infrastructure package that polls suggest could be equally popular.

    Gov. Larry Hogan, R-Md., worries that Republicans could squander built-in advantages in their quest to win back control of Congress and expand their advantage with governorships. In recent history, the party out of the White House has almost always made significant gains in the first midterm election of a new presidency.

    Democrats will lose control of Congress if Republicans flip just five seats in the House and only one in the Senate.

    “The only way we can screw it up is with Donald Trump,” Hogan told The Associated Press, lamenting that Republicans in Washington are consumed by infighting and “swearing fealty to one individual.”

    The two-term governor and frequent Trump critic continued: “I’m really kind of frustrated with the fact that the Republican Party doesn’t seem to be focused on an agenda. It doesn't seem to be focused on putting up coherent arguments for what people care about."

    Some Republican leaders close to Trump are encouraging him to look to the future.

    The former president is set to meet this week with the chairman of the Republican Study Committee, Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana, to begin discussing the party's policy prescriptions should the GOP retake the House majority next year.

    Trump has met privately with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., in recent weeks to discuss the creation of policy document in line with Gingrich's famous “Contract With America,” which outlined a clear and concise Republican agenda before the GOP's 1994 midterm success.

    Trump adviser Jason Miller said it's “a bit of an overreach” to suggest Trump is actively working with Gingrich to create the document.

    In the meantime, Republican candidates in key Senate contests, North Carolina among them, are struggling to offer voters a clear vision for what they would do if elected as they fight for Trump's endorsement.

    At least three Republicans are competing to succeed retiring North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr, who was censured by state party leaders for supporting Trump's impeachment in February. The Republican nomination fight features former Gov. Pat McCrory, current Rep. Ted Budd and former Rep. Mark Walker.

    After Trump's daughter-in-law Lara Trump bowed out of the race over the weekend, Trump formally endorsed Budd, the only candidate in the Republican primary who voted against certifying Trump's 2020 election loss.

    Walker had called himself the most “pro-Trump congressman from North Carolina" but that apparently was not enough to win Trump's backing.

    Beyond courting Trump, Budd has also played up the GOP’s culture wars. In his kickoff video, the gun store owner addressed growing immigration at the border with Mexico and the decision by Dr. Seuss' publisher to stop printing some of the popular children's book author's books because of racist imagery. Budd said he read the books to his children “and they turned out just fine.”

    Trump slapped at McCrory in Saturday's address by reminding voters, without using his name, that the former Republican governor had previously lost two elections.

    McCrory, who hails from the GOP's business wing, has embraced elements of Trump’s agenda, but has been critical of Trump's false claims about election fraud.

    “I’m not going to be diverted by talking about the past because I care about the future,” he told the AP in April.

    With 17 months before the 2022 general election and few voters paying close attention to the midterm jockeying, Republicans have time to develop an agenda that moves beyond Trump's grievances and conservative culture wars.

    But it's unclear whether there is sufficient political will.

    Scott, the Florida senator, said his party must ultimately communicate what it’s for — instead of simply what it’s against. But he noted that the "Contract With America” was released only two months before the 1994 election.

    “I don’t know if there will be a real contract for America, or everybody will just be more consistent with what they’re talking about,” Scott said of the Republican agenda in months ahead.

    On Trump, Scott added, “I think he's going to be helpful.”

    ___

    Peoples reported from New York.


    “Staking clear positions on healthcare, federal spending and crime?” GTFOOH. You’re on your own, get a job and have them pay; fuck roads and bridges, rah, rah, rah military USA USA USA and shoot first, ask questions later -civil liberties be damned.

    Can anyone tell me what the repubs’ policies have been since 2010, other than taxes and judges? Fucking jokers.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 21,331
    edited June 6
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Time for Chucky Baby to slap the bitch down. Ask him if he’d rather be a repub and if he says no, tell him if he doesn’t vote for what the majority of Americans voted for in 2020, dems and the dem party in the house and senate, he’ll be stripped of all committee assignments and ignored. If he switches parties as a result, it’s on him and his old crusty ways and his white nationalism will be on display. At least that’d be an honest outcome.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 4,062
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Time for Chucky Baby to slap the bitch down. Ask him if he’d rather be a repub and if he says no, tell him if he doesn’t vote for what the majority of Americans voted for in 2020, dems and the dem party in the house and senate, he’ll be stripped of all committee assignments and ignored. If he switches parties as a result, it’s on him and his old crusty ways and his white nationalism will be on display. At least that’d be an honest outcome.


    Manchin does not represent democratic voters, and chucky has almost zero power to change his mind. Yes Why dont we threaten to run Joe out of the democratic party and hand the leadership chair back to McConnell? That will probably get Manchin a lot more votes if he runs again in 2024. A 49-51 senate tomorrow looks better than what we have now?

    But who does represent a lot of democratic voters? Susan Collins.

    Blame Mainers who voted for Collins, not Joe Manchin, for the lack of action on voting rights.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Time for Chucky Baby to slap the bitch down. Ask him if he’d rather be a repub and if he says no, tell him if he doesn’t vote for what the majority of Americans voted for in 2020, dems and the dem party in the house and senate, he’ll be stripped of all committee assignments and ignored. If he switches parties as a result, it’s on him and his old crusty ways and his white nationalism will be on display. At least that’d be an honest outcome.


    Manchin does not represent democratic voters, and chucky has almost zero power to change his mind. Yes Why dont we threaten to run Joe out of the democratic party and hand the leadership chair back to McConnell? That will probably get Manchin a lot more votes if he runs again in 2024. A 49-51 senate tomorrow looks better than what we have now?

    But who does represent a lot of democratic voters? Susan Collins.

    Blame Mainers who voted for Collins, not Joe Manchin, for the lack of action on voting rights.
    Joe’s an elected dem and isn’t up for re-election until 2026. He should switch parties or take on for the team. If he switched parties and Moscow Mitchy Baby put everything to a screeching halt, it should energize dems to gain seats in the midterms. Regardless, what difference does Joe make for dems now? Let’s be honest and he’s currently full of shit.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,568
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Agreed.  Unfortunately we do not want him to switch parties.  But he is stifling some important work.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Agreed.  Unfortunately we do not want him to switch parties.  But he is stifling some important work.  
    I want him to be honest about who he represents. The ‘Murican people who elected a dem three branches of government or his “constituents.” It appears that it can’t be both.

    whats the difference if he switches parties? Chuck should back bench his delusional ass.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 34,300
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Agreed.  Unfortunately we do not want him to switch parties.  But he is stifling some important work.  
    I want him to be honest about who he represents. The ‘Murican people who elected a dem three branches of government or his “constituents.” It appears that it can’t be both.

    whats the difference if he switches parties? Chuck should back bench his delusional ass.

    So damn frustrating.  Seems like every time we get a little close to shutting the door on Trump's influence, we just can't quite get there.  Is the GOP that strong or are we Dems just that weak?  It's maddening.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,568
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Agreed.  Unfortunately we do not want him to switch parties.  But he is stifling some important work.  
    I want him to be honest about who he represents. The ‘Murican people who elected a dem three branches of government or his “constituents.” It appears that it can’t be both.

    whats the difference if he switches parties? Chuck should back bench his delusional ass.
    Committee chairs,  senate priorities,  etc...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Agreed.  Unfortunately we do not want him to switch parties.  But he is stifling some important work.  
    I want him to be honest about who he represents. The ‘Murican people who elected a dem three branches of government or his “constituents.” It appears that it can’t be both.

    whats the difference if he switches parties? Chuck should back bench his delusional ass.
    Committee chairs,  senate priorities,  etc...
    But nothing gets done anyway. Manchin is closer to Moscow Mitchy Baby than he is to the dem party and leadership. He should own his white nationalism.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 21,568
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Agreed.  Unfortunately we do not want him to switch parties.  But he is stifling some important work.  
    I want him to be honest about who he represents. The ‘Murican people who elected a dem three branches of government or his “constituents.” It appears that it can’t be both.

    whats the difference if he switches parties? Chuck should back bench his delusional ass.
    Committee chairs,  senate priorities,  etc...
    But nothing gets done anyway. Manchin is closer to Moscow Mitchy Baby than he is to the dem party and leadership. He should own his white nationalism.
    It's still better to have him on the team.  If Romney joined team blue but voted the same way he does today, Dems would still be better off.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Switch parties you fucking dick. Hey Joe? Have you seen the level of repub bipartisanship coming from repubs since 2010? How about what the repub controlled state legislatures are doing to voting rights? What fucking planet are you living on? Go spoon with Moscow Mitchy Baby you hack. Fuck him. Show some balls and switch parties.

    https://apple.news/A4kVMnPhtS0WpzoJtZN-HBA

    power corrupts. my take is he relishes being essentially the most powerful person in the senate.
    Agreed.  Unfortunately we do not want him to switch parties.  But he is stifling some important work.  
    I want him to be honest about who he represents. The ‘Murican people who elected a dem three branches of government or his “constituents.” It appears that it can’t be both.

    whats the difference if he switches parties? Chuck should back bench his delusional ass.
    Committee chairs,  senate priorities,  etc...
    But nothing gets done anyway. Manchin is closer to Moscow Mitchy Baby than he is to the dem party and leadership. He should own his white nationalism.
    It's still better to have him on the team.  If Romney joined team blue but voted the same way he does today, Dems would still be better off.  
    Moscow Mitchy Baby wouldn’t tolerate Mittens or Collins bucking him on a central piece of legislation, if they ever had such a thing. Moscow Mitchy Baby could tolerate impeachment votes because he, and everyone else, knew there weren’t 60 votes and it would be meaningless. Any other legislation central to their core, he’d have them all lined up like good little duckies.

    I’d rather Joe switch parties to shove it up our dem asses so we’ll have someone and something to blame for the continued march toward authoritarianism. Where the Bernie supporters at?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    Joe Manchurian Candidate represents:

    The 5 largest ethnic groups in West Virginia are White (Non-Hispanic) (92%), Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (3.77%), Two+ (Non-Hispanic) (1.76%), White (Hispanic) (0.997%), and Asian (Non-Hispanic) (0.737%).

    West Virginia Population 2021

    1,767,859, which is .0053 of the US population

    Median age of 41.9

    Approximately 48% of the population is over 45. Join the repubs Joe and have some respect.
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    Last week in the GQP courtesy of the Lincoln Project.


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    Putting your faith in Susan Collins is a fool’s errand.

    • White: 94.31%
    • Two or more races: 2.23%
    • Black or African American: 1.38%
    • Asian: 1.13%
    • Native American: 0.65%
    • Other race: 0.27%
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  • HobbesHobbes Pacific NorthwestPosts: 4,934
    What are Bernie's stats? :wink:
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    Hobbes said:
    What are Bernie's stats? :wink:
    But we know Bernie’d be on the right side of history if given the opportunity. Burlington may be a sanctuary city if memory recalls.


    • White: 94.16%
    • Two or more races: 2.02%
    • Asian: 1.68%
    • Black or African American: 1.36%
    • Other race: 0.39%
    • Native American: 0.34%
    • Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.05%
    09/15/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/29/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield, MA; 08/18/08, O2 London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA;

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  • HobbesHobbes Pacific NorthwestPosts: 4,934
    Hobbes said:
    What are Bernie's stats? :wink:
    But we know Bernie’d be on the right side of history if given the opportunity. Burlington may be a sanctuary city if memory recalls.


    • White: 94.16%
    • Two or more races: 2.02%
    • Asian: 1.68%
    • Black or African American: 1.36%
    • Other race: 0.39%
    • Native American: 0.34%
    • Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.05%
    Also the home to Ben & Jerry's so double bonus.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    Hobbes said:
    Hobbes said:
    What are Bernie's stats? :wink:
    But we know Bernie’d be on the right side of history if given the opportunity. Burlington may be a sanctuary city if memory recalls.


    • White: 94.16%
    • Two or more races: 2.02%
    • Asian: 1.68%
    • Black or African American: 1.36%
    • Other race: 0.39%
    • Native American: 0.34%
    • Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.05%
    Also the home to Ben & Jerry's so double bonus.
    I went on their tour and they told us every employee is allowed a pint of ice cream after work. I can polish off a pint of cherry garcia, chunky monkey or vanilla no problem. I’d blow up like a tick. Death by Ben & Jerry? 
    09/15/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/29/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield, MA; 08/18/08, O2 London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA;

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  • HobbesHobbes Pacific NorthwestPosts: 4,934
    Hobbes said:
    Hobbes said:
    What are Bernie's stats? :wink:
    But we know Bernie’d be on the right side of history if given the opportunity. Burlington may be a sanctuary city if memory recalls.


    • White: 94.16%
    • Two or more races: 2.02%
    • Asian: 1.68%
    • Black or African American: 1.36%
    • Other race: 0.39%
    • Native American: 0.34%
    • Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.05%
    Also the home to Ben & Jerry's so double bonus.
    I went on their tour and they told us every employee is allowed a pint of ice cream after work. I can polish off a pint of cherry garcia, chunky monkey or vanilla no problem. I’d blow up like a tick. Death by Ben & Jerry? 
    No wonder Bernie champions Medicare for All. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 8,491
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/lunar-new-deal-gop-rep-gohmert-suggests-altering-moon-s-n1270219?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma


    Lunar New Deal: GOP Rep. Gohmert suggests altering moon's orbit to combat climate change


  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,811
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,963
    What’s this clown’s salary again? Fucking Tejas.
    09/15/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/29/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield, MA; 08/18/08, O2 London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA;

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