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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    JB16057 said:
    brianlux said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What a happening train wreck of a party. I’m dementedly looking forward to a gubmint shut down or some other lack of repub leadership during a crisis so I can witness it in bemusement as everyone blames dems and Brandon for the chaos. It’ll be entertaining.
    A lot of those everybody need to read this:

    "The Republican-dominated House of Representatives remains unable to agree even to a way forward toward funding the United States government. This is a five-alarm fire."
    -Heather Cox Richardson. 11/10/23
    Don't forget, the House is dominated by Republicans because the Dems fucked it up for themselves. 
    Good point, it's totally worth ignoring the incompetence on display because of this.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    Well, at least someone believes that the dems fucked it up for themselves and not the rest of ‘Murica. I guess things ain’t so bad after all, eh?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Dominate is a strange word when the GOP can't afford to lose but a few votes to turn everything sideways. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    mickeyrat said:


    The man is a menace and a creep.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    mrussel1 said:
    Dominate is a strange word when the GOP can't afford to lose but a few votes to turn everything sideways. 
    its taken them like 20 votes to elect a speaker. dominate is an antonym for what is happening with the gop.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Dominate is a strange word when the GOP can't afford to lose but a few votes to turn everything sideways. 
    its taken them like 20 votes to elect a speaker. dominate is an antonym for what is happening with the gop.
    Dominate or dominated?


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589
    gift article link in the tweet

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    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589

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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589

     

    Michigan GOP faces 'imminent default' on credit line, ex-budget committee member says

    Craig Mauger, The Detroit News on Nov 9, 2023

    Published in News & Features

    LANSING— The Michigan Republican Party is considering how to deal with "imminent default" on its line of credit, according to a resignation letter from a member of the state GOP's budget committee.


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589
    assume this is here.

    laugh? cry? recoil in horror?

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    mickeyrat said:
    assume this is here.

    laugh? cry? recoil in horror?

    Another republican hero to cheer for, which is the fault of the democrats, obvi. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    mickeyrat said:
    assume this is here.

    laugh? cry? recoil in horror?

    that dude is gonna have an affair with boebert or mtg, and in a few years be speaker of the house. just watch.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    mickeyrat said:


    If Ramaswamy is so anti-government, maybe he should run for president and then throw all his votes away and stay true to his word.  That or maybe lay of the pharmaceuticals. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:


    If Ramaswamy is so anti-government, maybe he should run for president and then throw all his votes away and stay true to his word.  That or maybe lay of the pharmaceuticals. 

    his schtick seems to be what fuckstick has said amplified to 11....
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    mickeyrat said:

    This is a pretty tricky situation I think. We’d like all parents to be supportive of their kids…but I’m not really sure why withholding information about child from his/her parents is ok for a school. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:


    If Ramaswamy is so anti-government, maybe he should run for president and then throw all his votes away and stay true to his word.  That or maybe lay of the pharmaceuticals. 

    his schtick seems to be what fuckstick has said amplified to 11....

    Yes, and all the other Republicans who say they are against government and yet want to run the show and will do anything to steal an election.  The disconnect is absurd. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:

    This is a pretty tricky situation I think. We’d like all parents to be supportive of their kids…but I’m not really sure why withholding information about child from his/her parents is ok for a school. 
    Because school staff should be able to use professional judgment in situations where parents are going to respond in abusive manner when getting the news. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    Go Beavers said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:

    This is a pretty tricky situation I think. We’d like all parents to be supportive of their kids…but I’m not really sure why withholding information about child from his/her parents is ok for a school. 
    Because school staff should be able to use professional judgment in situations where parents are going to respond in abusive manner when getting the news. 
    Agreed...if we haven't had a situation yet where a child gets abused or killed because of this it is surely somewhere on the horizon.
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Go Beavers said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:

    This is a pretty tricky situation I think. We’d like all parents to be supportive of their kids…but I’m not really sure why withholding information about child from his/her parents is ok for a school. 
    Because school staff should be able to use professional judgment in situations where parents are going to respond in abusive manner when getting the news. 
    Define professional judgement... Not all school staff have the ability to be able to do this. Does the school staff only listen to what the kid says? That's not fair or professional. Schools should not have the right to keep information from parents.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    JB16057 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:

    This is a pretty tricky situation I think. We’d like all parents to be supportive of their kids…but I’m not really sure why withholding information about child from his/her parents is ok for a school. 
    Because school staff should be able to use professional judgment in situations where parents are going to respond in abusive manner when getting the news. 
    Define professional judgement... Not all school staff have the ability to be able to do this. Does the school staff only listen to what the kid says? That's not fair or professional. Schools should not have the right to keep information from parents.
    We aren't talking about catching a kid with a gun...it's a personal issue. Running to the parents with "hey Jimmy wants us to call him Stephanie" is quite a bit different. It's pushing an opinion that it's wrong.
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Gern Blansten said:
    Go Beavers said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:

    This is a pretty tricky situation I think. We’d like all parents to be supportive of their kids…but I’m not really sure why withholding information about child from his/her parents is ok for a school. 
    Because school staff should be able to use professional judgment in situations where parents are going to respond in abusive manner when getting the news. 
    Agreed...if we haven't had a situation yet where a child gets abused or killed because of this it is surely somewhere on the horizon.
    Your opinion is decided on "what if".

    Are you really worried that a majority of parents will abuse or kill their child if they learn the truth about their child? Some parents abuse their kids for no reason. Do you also think we should take away all parental rights because some parents abuse their children? 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    JB16057 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Go Beavers said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:

    This is a pretty tricky situation I think. We’d like all parents to be supportive of their kids…but I’m not really sure why withholding information about child from his/her parents is ok for a school. 
    Because school staff should be able to use professional judgment in situations where parents are going to respond in abusive manner when getting the news. 
    Agreed...if we haven't had a situation yet where a child gets abused or killed because of this it is surely somewhere on the horizon.
    Your opinion is decided on "what if".

    Are you really worried that a majority of parents will abuse or kill their child if they learn the truth about their child? Some parents abuse their kids for no reason. Do you also think we should take away all parental rights because some parents abuse their children? 
    Should we assume the parents don't know? SHould the school also alert the parents every time the kid farts? takes a shit? What other personal information does the school need to report?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,982
    fuck "parental rights". just a fucking bigotted dog whistle against the protection of marginalized people. why is it assumed a parent has a "right" to know everything about their kid? they don't. it's a feeling of powerlessness, as a parent of two teenage daughters, to acknowledge this, but it's a fact. I don't have any right to know what they wish to be called amongst their peers and in their private lives. no parent of straight kids ever complained about having the right to know who their child is dating or what nicknames they go by. this is no different. but because this scares ignorant people, all of a sudden they claim "rights" they never had. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    fuck "parental rights". just a fucking bigotted dog whistle against the protection of marginalized people. why is it assumed a parent has a "right" to know everything about their kid? they don't. it's a feeling of powerlessness, as a parent of two teenage daughters, to acknowledge this, but it's a fact. I don't have any right to know what they wish to be called amongst their peers and in their private lives. no parent of straight kids ever complained about having the right to know who their child is dating or what nicknames they go by. this is no different. but because this scares ignorant people, all of a sudden they claim "rights" they never had. 
    Exactly....the dating comment is spot on. Should the school call mommy and say "hey your daughter is hanging around a real dipshit"?
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143
    I remember when the school told my parents I was cisgendered and hetero.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    JB16057 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:

    This is a pretty tricky situation I think. We’d like all parents to be supportive of their kids…but I’m not really sure why withholding information about child from his/her parents is ok for a school. 
    Because school staff should be able to use professional judgment in situations where parents are going to respond in abusive manner when getting the news. 
    Define professional judgement... Not all school staff have the ability to be able to do this. Does the school staff only listen to what the kid says? That's not fair or professional. Schools should not have the right to keep information from parents.
    There is no way most school officials have the ability to make a call like that.  
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