Nancy said that the dems won’t bail his ass out. So much winning.
Just wait until they fuck everything up. Everything. The Ragin Cajun was so right on.
the dems should 100% not bail them out. this is their problem. the dems are united and i believe they are playing chess while the republicans can't agree that water is wet.
I would still support a Dem bailout if the magats were kept away from any major committee control and McCarthy guaranteed not to fuck with the debt ceiling. Those 20 fuckers want to shut the government down using the debt ceiling as their ridiculous display.
There's no way Jordan doesn't get the judiciary. He's been next to McCarthy the whole time, so it would be unrealistic that he wouldn't get it UNLESS the final speaker is an enemy of McCarthy, but I don't think that's likely.
Yeah I don't think there is anyway around Jordan and maybe MTG but it would sure to nice to put Boebert & Gaetz in a box
Have you heard she was getting a chair??
no but she will get placed on a committee of her choosing....I would like to see her kicked to the curb
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At this point, why don’t Dems have some fun? Take turns nominating and rallying behind Charlie Chaplin, the Kool-Aid Man, an inanimate carbon rod, etc. Each time, they’ll be permanently recorded as more popular than Kevin McCarthy. Since there’s no law on who can govern, does it matter?
The political capital here is the Dems can campaign next year being the “responsible party.” Making a joke of the process only opens the clown car door for them with moderates and independents
Yeah I agree and that was probably their plan all along. The fact that the clown show started before congress even starts just makes it that much sweeter.
Anyone see clips of Hannity ripping into Boebert last night?
Does anyone think this kind of thing actually makes a difference to GOP voters at the end of the day though, at this point?? Given the kinds of people who being voted into office by them, I don't feel like Republican voters mind a clown show at all. In fact, they seem to love and admire clowns.
It moves the center, I think.
Do you? Seriously wondering. How could this shit show be attracting a centre? Is there even a centre anymore? I dunno - it's all really fucked up.
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At this point, why don’t Dems have some fun? Take turns nominating and rallying behind Charlie Chaplin, the Kool-Aid Man, an inanimate carbon rod, etc. Each time, they’ll be permanently recorded as more popular than Kevin McCarthy. Since there’s no law on who can govern, does it matter?
The political capital here is the Dems can campaign next year being the “responsible party.” Making a joke of the process only opens the clown car door for them with moderates and independents
Yeah I agree and that was probably their plan all along. The fact that the clown show started before congress even starts just makes it that much sweeter.
Anyone see clips of Hannity ripping into Boebert last night?
Does anyone think this kind of thing actually makes a difference to GOP voters at the end of the day though, at this point?? Given the kinds of people who being voted into office by them, I don't feel like Republican voters mind a clown show at all. In fact, they seem to love and admire clowns.
It moves the center, I think.
Do you? Seriously wondering. How could this shit show be attracting a centre? Is there even a centre anymore? I dunno - it's all really fucked up.
it will make independents annoyed with the GOP. that moves the centre.
At this point, why don’t Dems have some fun? Take turns nominating and rallying behind Charlie Chaplin, the Kool-Aid Man, an inanimate carbon rod, etc. Each time, they’ll be permanently recorded as more popular than Kevin McCarthy. Since there’s no law on who can govern, does it matter?
The political capital here is the Dems can campaign next year being the “responsible party.” Making a joke of the process only opens the clown car door for them with moderates and independents
Yeah I agree and that was probably their plan all along. The fact that the clown show started before congress even starts just makes it that much sweeter.
Anyone see clips of Hannity ripping into Boebert last night?
Does anyone think this kind of thing actually makes a difference to GOP voters at the end of the day though, at this point?? Given the kinds of people who being voted into office by them, I don't feel like Republican voters mind a clown show at all. In fact, they seem to love and admire clowns.
It moves the center, I think.
Do you? Seriously wondering. How could this shit show be attracting a centre? Is there even a centre anymore? I dunno - it's all really fucked up.
it will make independents annoyed with the GOP. that moves the centre.
For those who find the house speaker BS entertaining, I have great news for you... this is only a preview of the next two years.
That's why the D's should be interested in cutting a deal with R's. Yes, they will extract maximum political benefit from the R's being insufferable, but it won't be good for the debt ceiling, Ukraine funding and real issues that need to be addressed.
“Matt Schlapp of the CPAC grabbed my junk and pummeled it at length, and I’m sitting there thinking what the hell is going on, that this person is literally doing this to me,” the staffer said in the video. “From the bar to the Hilton Garden Inn, he has his hands on me. And I feel so fucking dirty. I feel so fucking dirty,” he said. “I’m supposed to pick this motherfucker up in the morning and just pretend like nothing happened. This is what I’m dealing with,” the staffer continued. “This is what I got to do.” The staffer’s communications with the campaign the next day, along with further exchanges with Schlapp, were documented in call logs and text messages, which the staffer shared with The Daily Beast, as described below. At 7:26 a.m., Schlapp sent a text saying, “I’m in the lobby.” One minute later, the staffer called his supervisor, followed by a call with a senior campaign official. The staffer said the senior official was “immediately horrified” and pulled him off the driving duty, instructing him to tell Schlapp in writing that he’d made him uncomfortable. Right after that call, the staffer sent Schlapp a text. “I did want to say I was uncomfortable with what happened last night. The campaign does have a driver who is available to get you to Macon and back to the airport,” he texted, providing the name and phone number of the driver. “Pls give me a call,” Schlapp replied, followed by, “Thx.” Schlapp then called him three times over the next 20 minutes, according to phone records reviewed by The Daily Beast. When the staffer did not answer or return the calls, Schlapp sent another text, asking him to look “in your heart” and call back. “If you could see it in your heart to call me at the end of day. I would appreciate it,” Schlapp texted at 12:12 p.m. “If not I wish you luck on the campaign and hope you keep up the good work.”
Schlapp denies it....staffer said he would reveal his name if Schlapp denied
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If Dems bail them out McCarthy will not stick to any promises. That would be the stupidest thing they could do, opening the door for impeachment and Huter's lap top...and who knows what other hijinks. Let the Rs sort out their own mess.
If he did not follow his promises, then the D's could call for a new House speaker and start all over again. Remember that's a concession already extracted, moving the number to five members vs a majority for a no confidence type of vote. The D's would absolutely protect themselves that way.
Is that concession in writing on a legal document or just a promise from McCarthy though? Republicans break promises all the time. Better to get it all in writing first. And could the minority party theoretically call a floor vote on replacing the speaker? If so wouldn't that make them look bad for holding up the government, especially as it pertains to the right wing rage machine. I say let the Republicans sort it themselves.
If Dems bail them out McCarthy will not stick to any promises. That would be the stupidest thing they could do, opening the door for impeachment and Huter's lap top...and who knows what other hijinks. Let the Rs sort out their own mess.
If he did not follow his promises, then the D's could call for a new House speaker and start all over again. Remember that's a concession already extracted, moving the number to five members vs a majority for a no confidence type of vote. The D's would absolutely protect themselves that way.
Is that concession in writing on a legal document or just a promise from McCarthy though? Republicans break promises all the time. Better to get it all in writing first. And could the minority party theoretically call a floor vote on replacing the speaker? If so wouldn't that make them look bad for holding up the government, especially as it pertains to the right wing rage machine. I say let the Republicans sort it themselves.
As far as I know, the rules for the congress applies to all members, not just the majority. Therefore, any member(s) could call for the no confidence vote.
Dems better NOT cut a deal. Fuck the repubs. They had their opportunities to be “responsible” and respectful. They have no decorum and you can’t trust them. At all. Let them twist and burn. This is what needs to happen to the repub party. It’ll then need to rise from the ashes. Good luck.
Dems better NOT cut a deal. Fuck the repubs. They had their opportunities to be “responsible” and respectful. They have no decorum and you can’t trust them. At all. Let them twist and burn. This is what needs to happen to the repub party. It’ll then need to rise from the ashes. Good luck.
at what point will the republicans be able to turn this around and blame the dems for obstructing the process and impeding government progress? cuz you know that will happen at some point, and a large amount of their voters (and independents) will agree.
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Dems better NOT cut a deal. Fuck the repubs. They had their opportunities to be “responsible” and respectful. They have no decorum and you can’t trust them. At all. Let them twist and burn. This is what needs to happen to the repub party. It’ll then need to rise from the ashes. Good luck.
at what point will the republicans be able to turn this around and blame the dems for obstructing the process and impeding government progress? cuz you know that will happen at some point, and a large amount of their voters (and independents) will agree.
What? They are the majority. There is no chance of that happening or for it working politically if they attempt it. Everyone knows the deal here.
Dems better NOT cut a deal. Fuck the repubs. They had their opportunities to be “responsible” and respectful. They have no decorum and you can’t trust them. At all. Let them twist and burn. This is what needs to happen to the repub party. It’ll then need to rise from the ashes. Good luck.
at what point will the republicans be able to turn this around and blame the dems for obstructing the process and impeding government progress? cuz you know that will happen at some point, and a large amount of their voters (and independents) will agree.
What? They are the majority. There is no chance of that happening or for it working politically if they attempt it. Everyone knows the deal here.
you underestimate the power of cognitive dissonance. lol
Dems better NOT cut a deal. Fuck the repubs. They had their opportunities to be “responsible” and respectful. They have no decorum and you can’t trust them. At all. Let them twist and burn. This is what needs to happen to the repub party. It’ll then need to rise from the ashes. Good luck.
at what point will the republicans be able to turn this around and blame the dems for obstructing the process and impeding government progress? cuz you know that will happen at some point, and a large amount of their voters (and independents) will agree.
As sad as it is, I think you're dead on with this. I give it another week, tops.
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If Dems bail them out McCarthy will not stick to any promises. That would be the stupidest thing they could do, opening the door for impeachment and Huter's lap top...and who knows what other hijinks. Let the Rs sort out their own mess.
If he did not follow his promises, then the D's could call for a new House speaker and start all over again. Remember that's a concession already extracted, moving the number to five members vs a majority for a no confidence type of vote. The D's would absolutely protect themselves that way.
Is that concession in writing on a legal document or just a promise from McCarthy though? Republicans break promises all the time. Better to get it all in writing first. And could the minority party theoretically call a floor vote on replacing the speaker? If so wouldn't that make them look bad for holding up the government, especially as it pertains to the right wing rage machine. I say let the Republicans sort it themselves.
As far as I know, the rules for the congress applies to all members, not just the majority. Therefore, any member(s) could call for the no confidence vote.
Yes but we know how republicans act when it comes to rules and norms. If there is a way to wriggle out of a commitment with dems to fuck things up they will do it.
Dems better NOT cut a deal. Fuck the repubs. They had their opportunities to be “responsible” and respectful. They have no decorum and you can’t trust them. At all. Let them twist and burn. This is what needs to happen to the repub party. It’ll then need to rise from the ashes. Good luck.
at what point will the republicans be able to turn this around and blame the dems for obstructing the process and impeding government progress? cuz you know that will happen at some point, and a large amount of their voters (and independents) will agree.
What? They are the majority. There is no chance of that happening or for it working politically if they attempt it. Everyone knows the deal here.
you underestimate the power of cognitive dissonance. lol
Those people already blame Democrats for everything, so I don't think there is much chance of any swing or important voters blaming Ds.
But I disagree with H2M. At some point there, there is value in extracting concessions and having a Speaker that the D's can live with. I'm not sure when that point comes, but completely sidelining the Freedom Idiots would be a real win. And if they don't vote for the eventual speaker, they are neutered for the whole congress.
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There's no way people other than the deplorable base (and who gives a shit what they think at this point anyway?) will blame anyone other than republicans for this nonsense. Not happening folks.
Dems better NOT cut a deal. Fuck the repubs. They had their opportunities to be “responsible” and respectful. They have no decorum and you can’t trust them. At all. Let them twist and burn. This is what needs to happen to the repub party. It’ll then need to rise from the ashes. Good luck.
+1. And NP crying about past practice and how embarrassing this is….no, this is embarrassing for the RP, not everyone. She should be laughing her ass off every time they ask her about this. If history paints them all as assholes, like FF, they ALL deserve it.
And can a dem be elected SOH if they get the magic number with R voting for him? There’s the hard left looney tunes solution.
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Dems better NOT cut a deal. Fuck the repubs. They had their opportunities to be “responsible” and respectful. They have no decorum and you can’t trust them. At all. Let them twist and burn. This is what needs to happen to the repub party. It’ll then need to rise from the ashes. Good luck.
+1. And NP crying about past practice and how embarrassing this is….no, this is embarrassing for the RP, not everyone. She should be laughing her ass off every time they ask her about this. If history paints them all as assholes, like FF, they ALL deserve it.
And can a dem be elected SOH if they get the magic number with R voting for him? There’s the hard left looney tunes solution.
Yes. More likely would be a moderate R grows unhappy and puts up another moderate R. Kinzinger was on CNN last night saying there's like 15-20 R's from purple districts who would be the one's to watch in this scenario.
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2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
For those who find the house speaker BS entertaining, I have great news for you... this is only a preview of the next two years.
“From the bar to the Hilton Garden Inn, he has his hands on me. And I feel so fucking dirty. I feel so fucking dirty,” he said.
“I’m supposed to pick this motherfucker up in the morning and just pretend like nothing happened. This is what I’m dealing with,” the staffer continued. “This is what I got to do.”
The staffer’s communications with the campaign the next day, along with further exchanges with Schlapp, were documented in call logs and text messages, which the staffer shared with The Daily Beast, as described below.
At 7:26 a.m., Schlapp sent a text saying, “I’m in the lobby.” One minute later, the staffer called his supervisor, followed by a call with a senior campaign official. The staffer said the senior official was “immediately horrified” and pulled him off the driving duty, instructing him to tell Schlapp in writing that he’d made him uncomfortable.
Right after that call, the staffer sent Schlapp a text.
“I did want to say I was uncomfortable with what happened last night. The campaign does have a driver who is available to get you to Macon and back to the airport,” he texted, providing the name and phone number of the driver.
“Pls give me a call,” Schlapp replied, followed by, “Thx.” Schlapp then called him three times over the next 20 minutes, according to phone records reviewed by The Daily Beast.
When the staffer did not answer or return the calls, Schlapp sent another text, asking him to look “in your heart” and call back.
“If you could see it in your heart to call me at the end of day. I would appreciate it,” Schlapp texted at 12:12 p.m. “If not I wish you luck on the campaign and hope you keep up the good work.”
Schlapp denies it....staffer said he would reveal his name if Schlapp denied
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2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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But I disagree with H2M. At some point there, there is value in extracting concessions and having a Speaker that the D's can live with. I'm not sure when that point comes, but completely sidelining the Freedom Idiots would be a real win. And if they don't vote for the eventual speaker, they are neutered for the whole congress.