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    mickeyrat said:
    Abbot the fucking douchebag....


     
    Migrants dropped near VP Harris home on frigid Christmas Eve
    Today

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Three buses of recent migrant families arrived from Texas near the home of Vice President Kamala Harris in record-setting cold on Christmas Eve.

    Texas authorities have not confirmed their involvement, but the bus drop-offs are in line with previous actions by border-state governors calling attention to the Biden administration’s immigration policies.

    The buses that arrived late Saturday outside the vice president's residence were carrying around 110 to 130 people, according to Tatiana Laborde, managing director of SAMU First Response, a relief agency working with the city of Washington to serve thousands of migrants who have been dropped off in recent months.

    Local organizers had expected the buses to arrive Sunday but found out Saturday that the group would get to Washington early, Laborde said. The people on board included young children.

    Some were wearing T-shirts despite temperatures hovering around 15 degrees Fahrenheit (-9 degrees Celsius). It was the coldest Christmas Eve on record for Washington, according to the Washington Post.

    Laborde said employees had blankets ready for the people who arrived on Christmas Eve and moved them quickly onto waiting buses for a ride to an area church. A local restaurant chain donated dinner and breakfast.

    Most of the arrivals were headed to other destinations and expected to remain in Washington only briefly.

    Gov. Greg Abbott's office did not respond to a request for comment Sunday morning. His office said last week that Texas has given bus rides to more than 15,000 people since April to Washington, New York, Chicago, and Philadelphia.

    Abbott and Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey, both Republicans, are strong critics of President Joe Biden on his handling of the U.S.-Mexico border, where thousands of people are trying to cross daily, many to seek asylum. Officials on both sides of the border are seeking emergency help in setting up shelters and services for migrants, some of whom are sleeping on streets.

    Republicans argue Biden and Harris, designated the administration's point person on the root causes of migration, have relaxed restrictions that induced many people to leave their countries of origin. Biden has ended some policies but kept others enacted by former President Donald Trump, whose administration also grappled with spikes in border crossings and at one point separated immigrant families and children as a deterrence initiative.

    White House spokesperson Abdullah Hasan called the bus drop-offs a “cruel, dangerous, and shameful stunt.”

    “As we have repeatedly said, we are willing to work with anyone – Republican or Democrat alike – on real solutions, like the comprehensive immigration reform and border security measures President Biden sent to Congress on his first day in office, but these political games accomplish nothing and only put lives in danger," Hasan said in a statement Sunday.


    There’s those compassionate Christian values being demonstrated by Tejas’ gubner. Fortunately, some folks have more humanity in their pinky finger than other states’ elected representatives.
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    New GOP branding: Fraud, it’s what we do.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/26/politics/george-santos-admits-embellishing-resume/index.html

    He’ll be welcomed with open arms by the repubs in the House. They’ll love him. Don’t worry about lying boys and girls. Don’t worry about padding your resume either. Work hard? Pull yourself up by the bootstraps? Nah, that’s for suckers and losers. Just run for congress. As a repub.
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,135
    New GOP branding: Fraud, it’s what we do.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/26/politics/george-santos-admits-embellishing-resume/index.html

    He’ll be welcomed with open arms by the repubs in the House. They’ll love him. Don’t worry about lying boys and girls. Don’t worry about padding your resume either. Work hard? Pull yourself up by the bootstraps? Nah, that’s for suckers and losers. Just run for congress. As a repub.
    Those comments are just as bad as his lying in the first place. Call me when he announces where in the district his actual office will be in case he actually needs to be useful to his constituents from suffolk, nassau and queens counties.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,501

    Why didn't the NY Times or the democrats bother to do any opposition work on this fraud before the election? They totally just took NY for granted and, ironically, it cost them the house. Crazy. 
    They didn't lose the house by this one race though...
    I know. But they lost a few more there that they likely assumed they'd win just because it's NY

    Plus people always die and retire so if the margin was tad closer, that could be huge. 

    GOP has a four seat cushion in the House and they flipped four dem seats in the NYC suburbs, two of which on the island. 


    Yeah? As I said, that is a razor thin cushion. 3 would've been even slimmer, making things even more difficult for the GOP. I think the Dems took NY for granted. Big mistake. 
    I could have told them they were taking my district for granted, but they didn't ask me. There's a lot of that element in parts of my district covering the east part of queens and long island
    Political malpractice. Shame on the media too. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,383
    edited December 2022
    New GOP branding: Fraud, it’s what we do.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/26/politics/george-santos-admits-embellishing-resume/index.html

    He’ll be welcomed with open arms by the repubs in the House. They’ll love him. Don’t worry about lying boys and girls. Don’t worry about padding your resume either. Work hard? Pull yourself up by the bootstraps? Nah, that’s for suckers and losers. Just run for congress. As a repub.
    Those comments are just as bad as his lying in the first place. Call me when he announces where in the district his actual office will be in case he actually needs to be useful to his constituents from suffolk, nassau and queens counties.

    here in ohio office location stays the same it just passes from rep to rep.


    so a question would be, just how big a change were the map lines?

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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,135

    Why didn't the NY Times or the democrats bother to do any opposition work on this fraud before the election? They totally just took NY for granted and, ironically, it cost them the house. Crazy. 
    They didn't lose the house by this one race though...
    I know. But they lost a few more there that they likely assumed they'd win just because it's NY

    Plus people always die and retire so if the margin was tad closer, that could be huge. 

    GOP has a four seat cushion in the House and they flipped four dem seats in the NYC suburbs, two of which on the island. 


    Yeah? As I said, that is a razor thin cushion. 3 would've been even slimmer, making things even more difficult for the GOP. I think the Dems took NY for granted. Big mistake. 
    I could have told them they were taking my district for granted, but they didn't ask me. There's a lot of that element in parts of my district covering the east part of queens and long island
    Political malpractice. Shame on the media too. 
    I don't know what was going on there, but there are at least three community newspapers in that district and as someone who flips through them weekly I never saw anything.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,383

    Why didn't the NY Times or the democrats bother to do any opposition work on this fraud before the election? They totally just took NY for granted and, ironically, it cost them the house. Crazy. 
    They didn't lose the house by this one race though...
    I know. But they lost a few more there that they likely assumed they'd win just because it's NY

    Plus people always die and retire so if the margin was tad closer, that could be huge. 

    GOP has a four seat cushion in the House and they flipped four dem seats in the NYC suburbs, two of which on the island. 


    Yeah? As I said, that is a razor thin cushion. 3 would've been even slimmer, making things even more difficult for the GOP. I think the Dems took NY for granted. Big mistake. 
    I could have told them they were taking my district for granted, but they didn't ask me. There's a lot of that element in parts of my district covering the east part of queens and long island
    Political malpractice. Shame on the media too. 
    I don't know what was going on there, but there are at least three community newspapers in that district and as someone who flips through them weekly I never saw anything.

    well who was going to "go after" a gay candidate ..
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    New GOP branding: Fraud, it’s what we do.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/26/politics/george-santos-admits-embellishing-resume/index.html

    He’ll be welcomed with open arms by the repubs in the House. They’ll love him. Don’t worry about lying boys and girls. Don’t worry about padding your resume either. Work hard? Pull yourself up by the bootstraps? Nah, that’s for suckers and losers. Just run for congress. As a repub.
    Those comments are just as bad as his lying in the first place. Call me when he announces where in the district his actual office will be in case he actually needs to be useful to his constituents from suffolk, nassau and queens counties.
    The responsibility for vetting candidates falls on the party. Once again, the repub fraud party gets a pass and it’s all on the dems and the liberal media to save us from their POS candidates. See POOTWH. See Clinton, Hillary.
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    When the head of the repub party, is to this day, still making the claim, and the repub congressional leadership, as well as a great number of sympathetic supporters in the form of the media, the wealthy donor class and 35% of the repub voting base/public, are not shouting him down or kicking him to the curb, I think its safe and fair to call it the Fraud Party. From the January 6th Committee Report (page 210):

    In total, the Trump Campaign and allies of President Trump filed 62 separate lawsuits between November 4, 2020, and January 6, 2021, calling into question or seeking to overturn the election results.114 Out of 62 cases, only one case resulted in a victory for the President Trump or his allies, which affected relatively few votes, did not vindicate any underlying claims of fraud, and would not have changed the outcome in Pennsylvania.115 Thirty of the cases were dismissed by a judge after a hearing on the merits.116
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,004
    edited December 2022
    Nah, no fraud here. From page 266 of the 1/6 Committee Report:

    More than a month before the Presidential election, the media reported that the Trump Campaign was already developing a fallback plan that would focus on overturning certain election results at the State level. An article published on September 23, 2020, in The Atlantic explained, “[a]ccording to sources in the Republican Party at the State and national levels, the Trump Campaign is discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground States where Republicans hold the legislative majority.”15 Ominously, the same reporting predicted, almost exactly, what would later come to pass: “With a justification based on claims of rampant fraud, Trump would ask State legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly.”16
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    Lake on hook for $33K in witness fees in failed challenge
    By JACQUES BILLEAUD
    Yesterday

    PHOENIX (AP) — A judge has ordered Kari Lake, the Republican who lost the Arizona governor’s race, to pay $33,000 in fees for witnesses who helped defend election officials against Lake’s failed challenge of her defeat to Democrat Katie Hobbs, but rejected a request for hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees for the attorneys who defended the officials.

    In an order Tuesday, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson declined to impose sanctions against Lake and her lawyers, saying Lake’s failure to prove her case doesn’t “equate to a finding that her claims were, or were not, groundless and presented in bad faith.”

    Thompson, who was appointed by former Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, pointed to a statistical analysis by a pollster who had testified on behalf of Lake. The witness, who conducts public-opinion polls and is not an election worker, claimed technical problems at polling places on Election Day had disenfranchised enough voters that it would have changed the outcome of the race in Lake’s favor.

    Although the analysis was never admitted into evidence at a two-day trial last week because of its unsupported assumptions, the judge said there was no case law to rule out using a statistical analysis as a way to prove a lawsuit that challenges election results.

    Lawyers for Maricopa County and Hobbs, representing her in her roles as both the outgoing secretary of state and governor-elect, had requested about $695,000 in attorney fees and other legal costs, including the $33,000 in fees for witnesses. The attorneys argued Lake’s lawsuit was groundless and brought in bad faith.

    Lake, who lost to Hobbs by just over 17,000 votes, was among the most vocal 2022 Republicans promoting former President Donald Trump’s election lies, which she made the centerpiece of her campaign. While most of the other election deniers around the country conceded after losing their races in November, Lake has not.

    On Saturday, Thompson dismissed Lake’s election challenge, rejecting her claim that problems with ballot printers at some polling places on Election Day were the result of intentional misconduct. The judge concluded that the those failures didn’t affect the results of the election.

    Lawyers for Lake, who had asked the court to either declare her the winner or order a revote in Maricopa County, formally notified Thompson on late Tuesday afternoon that they were appealing his dismissal of the lawsuit.

    Lawyers for Lake focused on problems with ballot printers at some polling places in Maricopa County, home to more than 60% of Arizona’s voters. The defective printers produced ballots that were too light to be read by the on-site tabulators at polling places. Lines backed up in some areas amid the confusion.

    County officials say everyone had a chance to vote and all ballots were counted, since ballots affected by the printers were taken to more sophisticated counters at the elections department headquarters.

    Lake faced extremely long odds in her challenge, needing to prove not only that misconduct occurred, but also that it was intended to deny her victory and did in fact result in the wrong woman being declared the winner.

    In early December, a federal judge ordered lawyers representing Lake and Mark Finchem, the defeated Republican candidate for secretary of state, to pay the legal costs for defending election officials against Lake and Finchem’s lawsuit that unsuccessfully sought to require hand counting of all ballots in the November election.

    The judge hasn’t yet set the amount of the sanction, but attorneys who represented Maricopa County officials are seeking $141,000 in fees. Lake wasn't ordered to pay any financial penalties in the case.


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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,164
    mickeyrat said:
    gotta love the "Biden lies all the time" excuse
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,501
    mickeyrat said:
    gotta love the "Biden lies all the time" excuse
    She actually gave him the business pretty well here. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,829
    mickeyrat said:
    gotta love the "Biden lies all the time" excuse
    She actually gave him the business pretty well here. 
    They both suck pretty hard. 
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    Witch hunt!

    Nassau County district attorney opens investigation into Rep.-elect George Santos

    District Attorney Anne T. Donnelly said residents “must have an honest and accountable representative”


    The Nassau County district attorney announced that she is opening an investigation into Rep.-elect George Santos (R-N.Y.), whose surprise victory in November was quickly followed by revelations that he lied about his business experience, educational background and family ancestry.

    The district attorney, Anne T. Donnelly (R), said in a statement: “The numerous fabrications and inconsistencies associated” with Santos “are nothing short of stunning.” The residents in the congressional district “must have an honest and accountable representative in Congress” and “if a crime was committed in this county, we will prosecute it.” Donnelly’s spokesman, Brendan Brosh, said in a statement, “We are looking into the matter.”

    Days after an explosive New York Times story on Dec. 19 detailed lies Santos told about his background, Santos gave a handful of interviews in which he acknowledged he was untruthful about having worked at Goldman Sachs and Citigroup and graduating college. He said he never claimed to be Jewish, despite previous public comments about his heritage.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/28/george-santos-investigation/

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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,135
    Witch hunt!

    Nassau County district attorney opens investigation into Rep.-elect George Santos

    District Attorney Anne T. Donnelly said residents “must have an honest and accountable representative”


    The Nassau County district attorney announced that she is opening an investigation into Rep.-elect George Santos (R-N.Y.), whose surprise victory in November was quickly followed by revelations that he lied about his business experience, educational background and family ancestry.

    The district attorney, Anne T. Donnelly (R), said in a statement: “The numerous fabrications and inconsistencies associated” with Santos “are nothing short of stunning.” The residents in the congressional district “must have an honest and accountable representative in Congress” and “if a crime was committed in this county, we will prosecute it.” Donnelly’s spokesman, Brendan Brosh, said in a statement, “We are looking into the matter.”

    Days after an explosive New York Times story on Dec. 19 detailed lies Santos told about his background, Santos gave a handful of interviews in which he acknowledged he was untruthful about having worked at Goldman Sachs and Citigroup and graduating college. He said he never claimed to be Jewish, despite previous public comments about his heritage.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/28/george-santos-investigation/

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    Next for him is a cabinet position in the next QtRUmplican white house or a 2 hr nightly show on focksnooze.
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    This party and its leadership, in particular, have absolutely no credibility. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,829
    This party and its leadership, in particular, have absolutely no credibility. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
    I agree with a statement you made earlier.  This is a reflection on the RNC and NY GOP.  They have a responsibility to vet candidates.  They failed to do so.  I wonder why Fox isn't holding them accountable?
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    mrussel1 said:
    This party and its leadership, in particular, have absolutely no credibility. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
    I agree with a statement you made earlier.  This is a reflection on the RNC and NY GOP.  They have a responsibility to vet candidates.  They failed to do so.  I wonder why Fox isn't holding them accountable?
    Just wait and see where the money came from. A repub candidate for congress made up out of thin air and financed by someone or some entity. Imagine that? And POOTWH is still screaming about stolen elections and illegals and dead people voting? How many votes did this scumbag get? I’d argue that he “stole” every single one of them. Fucker needs five years in prison, a felony on his record and never to be eligible for any position funded by taxpayers or in the interest thereof. 
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    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,829
    mrussel1 said:
    This party and its leadership, in particular, have absolutely no credibility. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
    I agree with a statement you made earlier.  This is a reflection on the RNC and NY GOP.  They have a responsibility to vet candidates.  They failed to do so.  I wonder why Fox isn't holding them accountable?
    Just wait and see where the money came from. A repub candidate for congress made up out of thin air and financed by someone or some entity. Imagine that? And POOTWH is still screaming about stolen elections and illegals and dead people voting? How many votes did this scumbag get? I’d argue that he “stole” every single one of them. Fucker needs five years in prison, a felony on his record and never to be eligible for any position funded by taxpayers or in the interest thereof. 
    Well that's really going to be the interesting question, isn't it?  He said he was independently wealthy and loaned his campaign several hundred thousand dollars.  Yet he has had no job, no education and his family has no money.  So from where did that money materialize?  I don't think the NY AG has a legal interest in his lies about his background, but the financing piece will draw significant scrutiny.  

    And the upshot is that if he is indicted for any reason, he will have to leave Congress and then we have a special election.  
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    wow what a piece of crap 
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This party and its leadership, in particular, have absolutely no credibility. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
    I agree with a statement you made earlier.  This is a reflection on the RNC and NY GOP.  They have a responsibility to vet candidates.  They failed to do so.  I wonder why Fox isn't holding them accountable?
    Just wait and see where the money came from. A repub candidate for congress made up out of thin air and financed by someone or some entity. Imagine that? And POOTWH is still screaming about stolen elections and illegals and dead people voting? How many votes did this scumbag get? I’d argue that he “stole” every single one of them. Fucker needs five years in prison, a felony on his record and never to be eligible for any position funded by taxpayers or in the interest thereof. 
    Well that's really going to be the interesting question, isn't it?  He said he was independently wealthy and loaned his campaign several hundred thousand dollars.  Yet he has had no job, no education and his family has no money.  So from where did that money materialize?  I don't think the NY AG has a legal interest in his lies about his background, but the financing piece will draw significant scrutiny.  

    And the upshot is that if he is indicted for any reason, he will have to leave Congress and then we have a special election.  
    A $600K loan and filing false or misleading FEC disclosures is a felony, I believe. If it’s foreign money that slushed its way into a super PAC or the RNC, there’s going to be more ‘splainin’ to do. But Hunter’s laptop, right?
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,164
    Jason Miller threw him under the bus....that surprised me

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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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    so, she died twice?
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,164
    so, she died twice?
    Is she even dead?
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    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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    so, she died twice?
    Is she even dead?
    Is she really his mother?
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,473
    Damn what a despicable idiot! 
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