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PJPOWER said:
So you support Biden? Must be because “you ain’t black”...Ever go into a 7-11 or donut store without an Indian accent? Yeah, Biden “ain’t” racist....Bentleyspop said:
When you support a racist in any way shape or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.josevolution said:A vote for the Covidiot is a vote for stupidity,racism, exclusion,!josevolution said:A vote for the Covidiot is a vote for stupidity,racism, exclusion,!#TrumpKnew
I guess you could say he’s not as racist as Trump, but I don’t think he’s in the clear and there’s plenty of questionably racist statements in his past, so you must be racist if you support him in any shape or form...including voting for him...I've been to a 7-11 without an Indian accent but I once sounded like Robin Williams doing John Wayne doing Shakespeare when I saw a pretty clerk and said, "Well is that a bagger I see before me?"Biden, racist? Wednesday Thursday Friday?Post edited by brianlux on"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Ha, hopefully she wasn’t a “Karen”!brianlux said:PJPOWER said:
So you support Biden? Must be because “you ain’t black”...Ever go into a 7-11 or donut store without an Indian accent? Yeah, Biden “ain’t” racist....Bentleyspop said:
When you support a racist in any way shape or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.josevolution said:A vote for the Covidiot is a vote for stupidity,racism, exclusion,!josevolution said:A vote for the Covidiot is a vote for stupidity,racism, exclusion,!#TrumpKnew
I guess you could say he’s not as racist as Trump, but I don’t think he’s in the clear and there’s plenty of questionably racist statements in his past, so you must be racist if you support him in any shape or form...including voting for him...I've been to a 7-11 without an Indian accent but I once sounded like Robin Williams doing John Wayne doing Shakespeare when I saw a pretty clerk and said, "Well is that a bagger I see before me?"Biden, racist? Wednesday Thursday Friday?
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Team Trump Treason is all of the below and then some. Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden is not, not even close. Another false equivalency. Nice.PJPOWER said:
So you support Biden? Must be because “you ain’t black”...Ever go into a 7-11 or donut store without an Indian accent? Yeah, Biden “ain’t” racist....Bentleyspop said:
When you support a racist in any way shape or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.josevolution said:A vote for the Covidiot is a vote for stupidity,racism, exclusion,!josevolution said:A vote for the Covidiot is a vote for stupidity,racism, exclusion,!#TrumpKnew
I guess you could say he’s not as racist as Trump, but I don’t think he’s in the clear and there’s plenty of questionably racist statements in his past, so you must be racist if you support him in any shape or form...including voting for him...
It was first defined by the Oxford English Dictionary (2nd edition, 1989) as "[t]he theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race"; the same dictionary termed racism a synonym of racialism: "belief in the superiority of a particular race". By the end of World War II, racism had acquired the same supremacist connotations formerly associated with racialism: racism now implied racial discrimination, racial supremacism, and a harmful intent. (The term "race hatred" had also been used by sociologist Frederick Hertz in the late 1920s.)
someone who believes that their race makes them better, more intelligent, more moral, etc. than people of other races and who does or says unfair or harmful things as a result:
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“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
at this point, i couldn't give two flying fucks about "insensitive". if it's that vs outright hatred of minorities, i'll take the former.PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Where else would Indian-Americans be coming from?PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/
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Totally, but:HughFreakingDillon said:
at this point, i couldn't give two flying fucks about "insensitive". if it's that vs outright hatred of minorities, i'll take the former.PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/“When you support a racist in any way shape or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.”0 -
i am on record previously as disagreeing with that statement.PJPOWER said:
Totally, but:HughFreakingDillon said:
at this point, i couldn't give two flying fucks about "insensitive". if it's that vs outright hatred of minorities, i'll take the former.PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/“When you support a racist in any way shape or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.”By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Yes you are. And I agree with you 100%.HughFreakingDillon said:
i am on record previously as disagreeing with that statement.PJPOWER said:
Totally, but:HughFreakingDillon said:
at this point, i couldn't give two flying fucks about "insensitive". if it's that vs outright hatred of minorities, i'll take the former.PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/“When you support a racist in any way shape or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.”0 -
I’m with ya. My posts above were just countering that exact statement that is repeated throughout the day in a catch phrase type fashion.HughFreakingDillon said:
i am on record previously as disagreeing with that statement.PJPOWER said:
Totally, but:HughFreakingDillon said:
at this point, i couldn't give two flying fucks about "insensitive". if it's that vs outright hatred of minorities, i'll take the former.PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/“When you support a racist in any way shape or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.”0 -
Right, haha. Bit of a redundancy there. Maybe, in his defense, he was distinguishing them from Native American “Indians” for his less educated listeners?mace1229 said:
Where else would Indian-Americans be coming from?PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Right, so to not confuse those with the big migration of native Americans to America.PJPOWER said:
Right, haha. Bit of a redundancy there. Maybe, in his defense, he was distinguishing them from Native American “Indians” for his less educated listeners?mace1229 said:
Where else would Indian-Americans be coming from?PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/
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I’m sorry, I am not doing a very good job defending him. There is another thread here with plenty of that if you want to see what your vomit tastes like today,mace1229 said:
Right, so to not confuse those with the big migration of native Americans to America.PJPOWER said:
Right, haha. Bit of a redundancy there. Maybe, in his defense, he was distinguishing them from Native American “Indians” for his less educated listeners?mace1229 said:
Where else would Indian-Americans be coming from?PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/ Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
How about this...PJPOWER said:
Totally, but:HughFreakingDillon said:
at this point, i couldn't give two flying fucks about "insensitive". if it's that vs outright hatred of minorities, i'll take the former.PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/“When you support a racist in any way shape or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.”
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Wait wait wait, so you’re not voting for Biden or Trump? 3rd party? My mistake for assuming. I know that you are not a racist or at least I assume you are not voting for either of these fellas who have both made pretty racist comments, or arguably racist comments at least. Better to play it safe, right? I think I’m going to write in Bernie so that people don’t think that I’m afraid of socialists😱Bentleyspop said:
How about this...PJPOWER said:
Totally, but:HughFreakingDillon said:
at this point, i couldn't give two flying fucks about "insensitive". if it's that vs outright hatred of minorities, i'll take the former.PJPOWER said:“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man”
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
-Joe Biden
How do you know someone is a racist?
For someone “without a racist bone”, he sure has to keep on the defensive for making racially insensitive remarks. What was his position on busing and urban crime again, I never can remember.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/28/joe-biden/joe-biden-oversimplifies-his-record-school-busing-/“When you support a racist in any way shape or form, including voting, that makes you a racist as well.”
If you dont support racist or racism don't vote for one.
Better yet, maybe I can try to refrain from marginalizing people in this category or that...want to ride that wave with me?Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Yea, Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden is really a racist. In fact, he's so racist he served the first Black man elected POTUS for 8 years. So easily duped. False equivalencies abound. Context can be everything. Actions > words. But you know, both sides are the same. Afraid of all "others." BOO!
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-videos/fact-check-video-of-joe-biden-is-an-assortment-of-true-and-misleading-clips-idUSKBN2426JT
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You actually proved me original thesis for me, sadly. So you will throw away friendships of over 20+ year because someone had the audacity to vote differently than you? Maybe, since you know these people, you would take a closer look at them. If they are good people and they voted for someone you loathe, maybe there is something about Trump you are totally reading wrong. Or is it just "orange man bad, go away, do not want to hear it?"F Me In The Brain said:Op you like and respect Trump?
As a person?
I'm a lifelong conservative pre-2016 and I've always known Pearl Jam doesn't give two shits about my opinions. They would be just as happy if I didn't buy their stuff or go to their shows.
They walk the walk and that includes, I'm sure, being a-ok with losing some fans of their music so that they can fully represent what they believe in.
Until this clown was voted in I never felt like our country was doomed. I do now. The idea that more people don't hate the idea of such a person holding the office of president really makes me think we are screwed. I was super anti clinton as a philanderer - and Trump has his old buddy Slick Willie beaten by a hundred miles.
Good for PJ. Stick to what they believe in.
It doesn't matter than Biden is a joke. I would vote for an an actual dead person before I would ever vote for Trump. This isn't about how much more I can make under Trump. This is about being able to be proud to be an American. I'm ashamed that we gave the world this fool as our leader.
I will never align myself as a conservative again. Need to find a new label, if one has to apply.
People who supported Trump will never be looked at the same again, by me. This includes some people I have been friends with for 20+ years. I just cannot respect them as much as I did previously, even though I know many of them are good people and do good things in this world.0 -
Ah, yes. The person who skimmed my post but did not read it. I did not, in any way, imply the band should cut back on their anti-Trump stuff to avoid offending me. On the contrary, I said the exact opposite. And I am not in favor of the band changing its message. Not sure why I even bothered to respond. You clearly read something other than what I wrote.tdawe said:I can’t say I’ve fully located whatever question or point the OP was really trying to pose or make, but I do have one question for him.When you say: “ But I am a big believer in... true freedom of speech (not the cancel culture/woke business that is going on now)”, I take that to mean that you are not in favor of people being made to feel that they need to censor themselves for fear of offending their neighbors/coworkers/employers/customers/etc. If that’s so, then how do you square that with the implication earlier in the post that Pearl Jam should cut back on their anti-Trump speech in order to avoid offending you (or, if you prefer, other less magnanimous conservative fans)? If you’re in favor of Pearl Jam changing their message to avoid offending some of their customers, how is that different than, say, companies pulling their ads from Tucker Carlson’s show to avoid offending some of their customers?0 -
for me it's because politics has gone from a sometimes heated discussion, usually just a normal discussion where everything just moves on after, to people wanting to stick forks in their eyes. trump has brought out the worst in people. and because he's the worst, you see the people defending him, and their reasons why, it puts them in a different light then before. they aren't just a conservative. a lot of times you find out they are a bigot, or a xenophobe, or a racist, or a misogynist, or as just someone generally who you realize is morally bankrupt.Darth Lizard King said:
You actually proved me original thesis for me, sadly. So you will throw away friendships of over 20+ year because someone had the audacity to vote differently than you? Maybe, since you know these people, you would take a closer look at them. If they are good people and they voted for someone you loathe, maybe there is something about Trump you are totally reading wrong. Or is it just "orange man bad, go away, do not want to hear it?"F Me In The Brain said:Op you like and respect Trump?
As a person?
I'm a lifelong conservative pre-2016 and I've always known Pearl Jam doesn't give two shits about my opinions. They would be just as happy if I didn't buy their stuff or go to their shows.
They walk the walk and that includes, I'm sure, being a-ok with losing some fans of their music so that they can fully represent what they believe in.
Until this clown was voted in I never felt like our country was doomed. I do now. The idea that more people don't hate the idea of such a person holding the office of president really makes me think we are screwed. I was super anti clinton as a philanderer - and Trump has his old buddy Slick Willie beaten by a hundred miles.
Good for PJ. Stick to what they believe in.
It doesn't matter than Biden is a joke. I would vote for an an actual dead person before I would ever vote for Trump. This isn't about how much more I can make under Trump. This is about being able to be proud to be an American. I'm ashamed that we gave the world this fool as our leader.
I will never align myself as a conservative again. Need to find a new label, if one has to apply.
People who supported Trump will never be looked at the same again, by me. This includes some people I have been friends with for 20+ years. I just cannot respect them as much as I did previously, even though I know many of them are good people and do good things in this world.
it's not just orange man bad. that's so simplistic. it has shown people's true colours, and sometimes, it's shocking, and it's enough that you feel you never really knew that person, and if you did, you wouldn't have become friends with them in the first place.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
This is my favorite part. You know when someone says "a lot to unpack here," they are basically "that" guy/girl.jdasilvaf said:
A lot to unpack here... what do you mean by "law and order"? The legal system has never been fair nor equally applied in this country. It is a fact that Black and Brown people are more likely to be stopped by police and arrested for the same offenses whites commit but are never arrested for (from driving without a license, driving drunk, to smoking marihuana, etc). Black people are a minority but make up the majority of the prison population. So, law and order for whom? What do you mean by "order"? As the racial justice activism, and the rise of Democratic Socialism have demonstrated there is a significant part of the population that believes that there is injustice and inequality in nearly all the structures of our society (law, economic, housing, employment). Do you deny the existence of structural inequality?. The second amendment, I have no issue with. I do take issue with people being allowed to buy military grade weapons and carry them in public. I assure you though, the moment more of us (Lefists, Latinos and supporters of BLM) start exercising our second amendment rights, conservatives are going to jump on gun regulations faster than you can say "Ronald Reagan". What is "true" vs "false" freedom of speech? Is there really a cancel culture? Seems to like every time a conservative screams "I've been cancelled" they end up getting a ton of coverage and support from the right, meanwhile academics and journalists are routinely fired for criticizing Israeli government policies towards Palestinians.Darth Lizard King said: But I am a big believer in law and order, tight borders, strong military and police, 2nd Amendment, and true freedom of speech (not the cancel culture/woke business that is going on now).
I am one of those "brown" people you are talking about (kind of racist to so lazily identify someone by the color of their skin, but we can move past it, I guess), and I did not ask you to speak on my behalf. The reason why many of us (Mexicans) want reasonable border security and immigration policies, is we came here the right way, built a life, and are proud to be Americans. America is not obligated to help every needy person coming to our borders illegally, but we always have, because we are a good and noble country. But we want people to be vetted, just like we were, to keep out the gangs, the drug pushers, and the child traffickers, the ones who give the rest of us a bad name, the ones Trump called "animals," the ones Trump said are not our "best and brightest." If you have no law, you have chaos (see: Portland, Seattle, Chicago). If you have no borders, you have no country (see: Sweden).
The rest of your rant is classic inane liberal chatter: right from Rachel Maddow's face to the nearest bathroom wall, which is where you got it. Probably took a couple liberal arts classes in college and now you think you are Harvey Milk + Martin Luther King. You're going to be very lonely over there on the wrong side of history.Post edited by Darth Lizard King on0
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