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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662

    Brian - I appreciate your willingness to speak your mind.  It opens discussion.  That is a good thing.  I personally think it was a good discussion to have. Because it is often brought up.  And people do use the past life of these victims as a reason that it's ok they died (not that you were).  My initial knee jerk reaction to these events is similar.  I've tried to step back and listen more.  The BLM org doesn't get to pick their martyrs, their symbols, etc.  Generally it's white people of power that do so through their interactions with the victims. 
    Good points Cincy.

    Basically, what I was trying to say is that once the dust settles, I think it's more important to recognize those who made progress. 


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  • cincybearcat
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    brianlux said:

    Brian - I appreciate your willingness to speak your mind.  It opens discussion.  That is a good thing.  I personally think it was a good discussion to have. Because it is often brought up.  And people do use the past life of these victims as a reason that it's ok they died (not that you were).  My initial knee jerk reaction to these events is similar.  I've tried to step back and listen more.  The BLM org doesn't get to pick their martyrs, their symbols, etc.  Generally it's white people of power that do so through their interactions with the victims. 
    Good points Cincy.

    Basically, what I was trying to say is that once the dust settles, I think it's more important to recognize those who made progress. 


    I agree.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Anyone feel like a boycott? Or would that be too much cancel culture?


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  • static111
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    Anyone feel like a boycott? Or would that be too much cancel culture?


    *But we have to let them have a space for their views or else we aren’t an open and free society.* Sarcasm
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  • static111
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    Anyone feel like a boycott? Or would that be too much cancel culture?


    I’m down to cancel any idiot that says and does some dumb shit
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Federal officers have largely withdrawn from Portland and violence is basically absent from recent nights of protest. Governor Brown tweeted “Last night, the world was watching Portland,“ Brown said in a tweet Friday. “Here’s what they saw: Federal troops left downtown. Local officials protected free speech. And Oregonians spoke out for Black Lives Matter, racial justice, and police accountability.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/01/portland-1000-peacefully-protest-amid-withdrawal-of-federal-agents
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    dignin said:
    He shouldn’t be out there doing that. Did you see how he caused all that agitation? Those people might have burned down that wal mart or something. I hope he learns to stay home and be quiet.
    Instigating white supremacists got this reaction? Weird. Hope he gets a lot of likes for that. What exactly does this prove? That humans are racist? Or only white people are? If I go into my local ghetto with a “back the blue sign” and got called racist names and got a gun pulled on me would I be considered courageous? Or a fucking idiot? Racism exists everywhere in the world , on all sides. Is this “shining a light” on racism? Or exploiting it to go viral? 
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited August 2020
    Federal officers have largely withdrawn from Portland and violence is basically absent from recent nights of protest. Governor Brown tweeted “Last night, the world was watching Portland,“ Brown said in a tweet Friday. “Here’s what they saw: Federal troops left downtown. Local officials protected free speech. And Oregonians spoke out for Black Lives Matter, racial justice, and police accountability.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/01/portland-1000-peacefully-protest-amid-withdrawal-of-federal-agents
    All part of the plan.

    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    He shouldn’t be out there doing that. Did you see how he caused all that agitation? Those people might have burned down that wal mart or something. I hope he learns to stay home and be quiet.
    Instigating white supremacists got this reaction? Weird. Hope he gets a lot of likes for that. What exactly does this prove? That humans are racist? Or only white people are? If I go into my local ghetto with a “back the blue sign” and got called racist names and got a gun pulled on me would I be considered courageous? Or a fucking idiot? Racism exists everywhere in the world , on all sides. Is this “shining a light” on racism? Or exploiting it to go viral? 
    Instigating by holding a sign? Just how snowy of flakes are we talking about here?

    ”local ghetto”? Super fucking classy way to open your deflection. 



    BLM is getting unwitting endorsements from Repubes today over Meyers Leonard standing for the anthem. The tunnel vision is stunning.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    DewieCox said:
    Federal officers have largely withdrawn from Portland and violence is basically absent from recent nights of protest. Governor Brown tweeted “Last night, the world was watching Portland,“ Brown said in a tweet Friday. “Here’s what they saw: Federal troops left downtown. Local officials protected free speech. And Oregonians spoke out for Black Lives Matter, racial justice, and police accountability.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/01/portland-1000-peacefully-protest-amid-withdrawal-of-federal-agents
    All part of the plan.

    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    He shouldn’t be out there doing that. Did you see how he caused all that agitation? Those people might have burned down that wal mart or something. I hope he learns to stay home and be quiet.
    Instigating white supremacists got this reaction? Weird. Hope he gets a lot of likes for that. What exactly does this prove? That humans are racist? Or only white people are? If I go into my local ghetto with a “back the blue sign” and got called racist names and got a gun pulled on me would I be considered courageous? Or a fucking idiot? Racism exists everywhere in the world , on all sides. Is this “shining a light” on racism? Or exploiting it to go viral? 
    Instigating by holding a sign? Just how snowy of flakes are we talking about here?

    ”local ghetto”? Super fucking classy way to open your deflection. 
    Deflecting by making a comparison? Answer me this. What was the point of holding a black lives matter sign in KKK county? Reactions? Likes? Viral? I’m just trying to understand what we learned from this. Did he think they would say “hey you know what, you’re right”. These videos just come off as disingenuous and a way to bring attention to themselves rather than the actual cause. It’s my opinion. 
  • josevolution
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    nicknyr15 said:
    DewieCox said:
    Federal officers have largely withdrawn from Portland and violence is basically absent from recent nights of protest. Governor Brown tweeted “Last night, the world was watching Portland,“ Brown said in a tweet Friday. “Here’s what they saw: Federal troops left downtown. Local officials protected free speech. And Oregonians spoke out for Black Lives Matter, racial justice, and police accountability.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/01/portland-1000-peacefully-protest-amid-withdrawal-of-federal-agents
    All part of the plan.

    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    He shouldn’t be out there doing that. Did you see how he caused all that agitation? Those people might have burned down that wal mart or something. I hope he learns to stay home and be quiet.
    Instigating white supremacists got this reaction? Weird. Hope he gets a lot of likes for that. What exactly does this prove? That humans are racist? Or only white people are? If I go into my local ghetto with a “back the blue sign” and got called racist names and got a gun pulled on me would I be considered courageous? Or a fucking idiot? Racism exists everywhere in the world , on all sides. Is this “shining a light” on racism? Or exploiting it to go viral? 
    Instigating by holding a sign? Just how snowy of flakes are we talking about here?

    ”local ghetto”? Super fucking classy way to open your deflection. 
    Deflecting by making a comparison? Answer me this. What was the point of holding a black lives matter sign in KKK county? Reactions? Likes? Viral? I’m just trying to understand what we learned from this. Did he think they would say “hey you know what, you’re right”. These videos just come off as disingenuous and a way to bring attention to themselves rather than the actual cause. It’s my opinion. 
    In other words just don’t go it just let it be nah I give the man a ton of credit..
    Maybe it made him feel like he’s doing his part.

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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    nicknyr15 said:
    DewieCox said:
    Federal officers have largely withdrawn from Portland and violence is basically absent from recent nights of protest. Governor Brown tweeted “Last night, the world was watching Portland,“ Brown said in a tweet Friday. “Here’s what they saw: Federal troops left downtown. Local officials protected free speech. And Oregonians spoke out for Black Lives Matter, racial justice, and police accountability.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/01/portland-1000-peacefully-protest-amid-withdrawal-of-federal-agents
    All part of the plan.

    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    He shouldn’t be out there doing that. Did you see how he caused all that agitation? Those people might have burned down that wal mart or something. I hope he learns to stay home and be quiet.
    Instigating white supremacists got this reaction? Weird. Hope he gets a lot of likes for that. What exactly does this prove? That humans are racist? Or only white people are? If I go into my local ghetto with a “back the blue sign” and got called racist names and got a gun pulled on me would I be considered courageous? Or a fucking idiot? Racism exists everywhere in the world , on all sides. Is this “shining a light” on racism? Or exploiting it to go viral? 
    Instigating by holding a sign? Just how snowy of flakes are we talking about here?

    ”local ghetto”? Super fucking classy way to open your deflection. 
    Deflecting by making a comparison? Answer me this. What was the point of holding a black lives matter sign in KKK county? Reactions? Likes? Viral? I’m just trying to understand what we learned from this. Did he think they would say “hey you know what, you’re right”. These videos just come off as disingenuous and a way to bring attention to themselves rather than the actual cause. It’s my opinion. 
    In other words just don’t go it just let it be nah I give the man a ton of credit..
    Maybe it made him feel like he’s doing his part.

    Maybe Jose. But with so much focus on likes and going viral, I just don’t buy it. Walking into an area like that, imo, you’re not trying to make a change, you’re looking for a reaction. 
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    It can be both. Odd that you’d be more upset with his method than the shit that was yelled.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    DewieCox said:
    It can be both. Odd that you’d be more upset with his method than the shit that was yelled.
    Sorry. Thought it goes without saying how vile and disgusting white supremacists are. Didn’t think I’d have to actually say that. 
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    And yet you’re more disgusted that he was holding a sign.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    DewieCox said:
    And yet you’re more disgusted that he was holding a sign.
    Ok. Sorry if I offended you with my view. It’s odd that that’s all you’re focused on. You haven’t commented on anything I actually said. I’m not disgusted that he was holding a sign. We’ll never know his true motivation, but my feeling is it’s more to bring attention to his fucking Social Media then making a change. It’s real classy that I bring up this point and you are pretty much trying to say I’m racist, what they’re yelling doesn’t bother me and I’m disgusted by him holding a BLM sign.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    DewieCox said:
    Federal officers have largely withdrawn from Portland and violence is basically absent from recent nights of protest. Governor Brown tweeted “Last night, the world was watching Portland,“ Brown said in a tweet Friday. “Here’s what they saw: Federal troops left downtown. Local officials protected free speech. And Oregonians spoke out for Black Lives Matter, racial justice, and police accountability.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/01/portland-1000-peacefully-protest-amid-withdrawal-of-federal-agents
    All part of the plan.

    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    He shouldn’t be out there doing that. Did you see how he caused all that agitation? Those people might have burned down that wal mart or something. I hope he learns to stay home and be quiet.
    Instigating white supremacists got this reaction? Weird. Hope he gets a lot of likes for that. What exactly does this prove? That humans are racist? Or only white people are? If I go into my local ghetto with a “back the blue sign” and got called racist names and got a gun pulled on me would I be considered courageous? Or a fucking idiot? Racism exists everywhere in the world , on all sides. Is this “shining a light” on racism? Or exploiting it to go viral? 
    Instigating by holding a sign? Just how snowy of flakes are we talking about here?

    ”local ghetto”? Super fucking classy way to open your deflection. 
    Deflecting by making a comparison? Answer me this. What was the point of holding a black lives matter sign in KKK county? Reactions? Likes? Viral? I’m just trying to understand what we learned from this. Did he think they would say “hey you know what, you’re right”. These videos just come off as disingenuous and a way to bring attention to themselves rather than the actual cause. It’s my opinion. 
    In other words just don’t go it just let it be nah I give the man a ton of credit..
    Maybe it made him feel like he’s doing his part.

    Maybe Jose. But with so much focus on likes and going viral, I just don’t buy it. Walking into an area like that, imo, you’re not trying to make a change, you’re looking for a reaction. 
    But that’s the whole point of Protesting is to get a reaction to injustices it has to be done, the man has guts I commend him..
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    DewieCox said:
    Federal officers have largely withdrawn from Portland and violence is basically absent from recent nights of protest. Governor Brown tweeted “Last night, the world was watching Portland,“ Brown said in a tweet Friday. “Here’s what they saw: Federal troops left downtown. Local officials protected free speech. And Oregonians spoke out for Black Lives Matter, racial justice, and police accountability.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/01/portland-1000-peacefully-protest-amid-withdrawal-of-federal-agents
    All part of the plan.

    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    He shouldn’t be out there doing that. Did you see how he caused all that agitation? Those people might have burned down that wal mart or something. I hope he learns to stay home and be quiet.
    Instigating white supremacists got this reaction? Weird. Hope he gets a lot of likes for that. What exactly does this prove? That humans are racist? Or only white people are? If I go into my local ghetto with a “back the blue sign” and got called racist names and got a gun pulled on me would I be considered courageous? Or a fucking idiot? Racism exists everywhere in the world , on all sides. Is this “shining a light” on racism? Or exploiting it to go viral? 
    Instigating by holding a sign? Just how snowy of flakes are we talking about here?

    ”local ghetto”? Super fucking classy way to open your deflection. 
    Deflecting by making a comparison? Answer me this. What was the point of holding a black lives matter sign in KKK county? Reactions? Likes? Viral? I’m just trying to understand what we learned from this. Did he think they would say “hey you know what, you’re right”. These videos just come off as disingenuous and a way to bring attention to themselves rather than the actual cause. It’s my opinion. 
    In other words just don’t go it just let it be nah I give the man a ton of credit..
    Maybe it made him feel like he’s doing his part.

    Maybe Jose. But with so much focus on likes and going viral, I just don’t buy it. Walking into an area like that, imo, you’re not trying to make a change, you’re looking for a reaction. 
    But that’s the whole point of Protesting is to get a reaction to injustices it has to be done, the man has guts I commend him..
    And I respect your opinion 100%. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    He shouldn’t be out there doing that. Did you see how he caused all that agitation? Those people might have burned down that wal mart or something. I hope he learns to stay home and be quiet.
    Instigating white supremacists got this reaction? Weird. Hope he gets a lot of likes for that. What exactly does this prove? That humans are racist? Or only white people are? If I go into my local ghetto with a “back the blue sign” and got called racist names and got a gun pulled on me would I be considered courageous? Or a fucking idiot? Racism exists everywhere in the world , on all sides. Is this “shining a light” on racism? Or exploiting it to go viral? 
    I think it shines a light on har far we still need to go as a society.  It shines a light on what black people have to overcome still in 2020. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,419
    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    He shouldn’t be out there doing that. Did you see how he caused all that agitation? Those people might have burned down that wal mart or something. I hope he learns to stay home and be quiet.
    Instigating white supremacists got this reaction? Weird. Hope he gets a lot of likes for that. What exactly does this prove? That humans are racist? Or only white people are? If I go into my local ghetto with a “back the blue sign” and got called racist names and got a gun pulled on me would I be considered courageous? Or a fucking idiot? Racism exists everywhere in the world , on all sides. Is this “shining a light” on racism? Or exploiting it to go viral? 
    I think it shines a light on har far we still need to go as a society.  It shines a light on what black people have to overcome still in 2020. 
    It is extremely important to shine that light on racism and racists.
    Whether it's on a street corner in Harrison, Arkansas or on a Pearl Jam fan board.