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And you're selecting one piece and conveniently omitting the rest of what he said as to why HE has chosen to stand. It's crazy this is even a story.oftenreading said:
Incorrect. He said it was disrespectful to kneel during the anthem.bbiggs said:^ I listened to Drew Brees' comment and he said nothing wrong. He said he chooses to stand during the national anthem, and each time he does, he thinks of his grandfathers that served in WWII. Not sure how anyone can take offense to that. He said nothing negative about those who choose to take a knee or what it symbolizes. All he commented on was his choice to stand and why.
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Yet Colin Kapernick expresses his feelings, exercising his first amendment rights and loses his job and gets blacklisted from the NFL and has to sign an NDA as part of a settlement. Then is called a son of a bitch by Team Trump Treason at a public hate rally and has white fans publicly burning his jersey. You better believe the world is upside down. I hope his African American offensive lineman do a purposefully poor job of blocking for him so defensive players can sack his ass and whisper to him what they think about his comments as they get up slowly from the pile. I’m sure there’ll be some Vike and Hawk players happy to oblige. Poor Drew.RYME said:
That's exactly right. And yet you can't even talk like that. Thinks about Grandfathes that fought in WWII & those who fought for civil rights, admited that the USA isnt perfect but a lot of us are always trying to make it better for ALL. How in the hell is that so offensive? Didn't tell them not to kneel down either. So he explains why he stands with his hand over his heart and what he thinks about. And he is told to shut up and sit down.bbiggs said:^ I listened to Drew Brees' comment and he said nothing wrong. He said he chooses to stand during the national anthem, and each time he does, he thinks of his grandfathers that served in WWII. Not sure how anyone can take offense to that. He said nothing negative about those who choose to take a knee or what it symbolizes. All he commented on was his choice to stand and why.
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Hmmm, maybe you haven't read his comment or the question asked? They specifically asked him what he thought about people kneeling.RYME said:
That's exactly right. And yet you can't even talk like that. Thinks about Grandfathes that fought in WWII & those who fought for civil rights, admited that the USA isnt perfect but a lot of us are always trying to make it better for ALL. How in the hell is that so offensive? Didn't tell them not to kneel down either. So he explains why he stands with his hand over his heart and what he thinks about. And he is told to shut up and sit down.bbiggs said:^ I listened to Drew Brees' comment and he said nothing wrong. He said he chooses to stand during the national anthem, and each time he does, he thinks of his grandfathers that served in WWII. Not sure how anyone can take offense to that. He said nothing negative about those who choose to take a knee or what it symbolizes. All he commented on was his choice to stand and why.
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During an interview with Yahoo Finance on Wednesday, Brees reiterated his stance that he will "never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America."
Brees was asked on Wednesday for his opinion on players potentially kneeling during the national anthem in 2020. He said kneeling during the anthem was disrespectful, citing his grandfathers' military service during World War II."Let me just tell what I see or what I feel when the national anthem is played and when I look at the flag of the United States," Brees told Yahoo Finance. "I envision my two grandfathers, who fought for this country during World War II, one in the Army and one in the Marine Corp. Both risking their lives to protect our country and to try to make our country and this world a better place. So every time I stand with my hand over my heart looking at that flag and singing the national anthem, that’s what I think about."
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Please don't spread misinformation. No one (here anyway) is criticizing him for talking about his grandfather and serving and why he stands for the anthem. Also, no one made him apologize. He didn't realize how his words would be perceived and made a decision, like any responsible adult should, to clear things up and that he meant no disrespect. Unlike our president, people who make mistakes can apologize without it being a blame the "left" response.RYME said:
That's exactly right. And yet you can't even talk like that. Thinks about Grandfathes that fought in WWII & those who fought for civil rights, admited that the USA isnt perfect but a lot of us are always trying to make it better for ALL. How in the hell is that so offensive? Didn't tell them not to kneel down either. So he explains why he stands with his hand over his heart and what he thinks about. And he is told to shut up and sit down.bbiggs said:^ I listened to Drew Brees' comment and he said nothing wrong. He said he chooses to stand during the national anthem, and each time he does, he thinks of his grandfathers that served in WWII. Not sure how anyone can take offense to that. He said nothing negative about those who choose to take a knee or what it symbolizes. All he commented on was his choice to stand and why.
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Look, when you call kneeling "disrespecting the flag" it shows that you aren't paying attention. To allow Drew a pass on how he feels, but condemn the people with convictions every bit as strong about the symbolism of kneeling in protest of police brutality, that smacks of white privilege. Drew screwed up and apologized. But go ahead and side with Laura Ingraham in saying that Drew's original statement was fine. I know I would need to do a gut check if I found myself on the same side as that deplorable."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080
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see, this is it.jeffbr said:Look, when you call kneeling "disrespecting the flag" it shows that you aren't paying attention. To allow Drew a pass on how he feels, but condemn the people with convictions every bit as strong about the symbolism of kneeling in protest of police brutality, that smacks of white privilege. Drew screwed up and apologized. But go ahead and side with Laura Ingraham in saying that Drew's original statement was fine. I know I would need to do a gut check if I found myself on the same side as that deplorable.
there was such a strong backlash against brees because he is not fucking listening. he is a smart guy and he is not fucking listening to what is being said. how many times has it been stated that taking a knee is not against the flag or the troops, but against police brutality? like thousands. it has been said by colin k and most of the other people that were taking knees a couple of years ago. the fact that brees is knowingly misrepresenting what the movement is about and playing stupid about it is why there has been such an uproar."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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So is standing during the national anthem, with your hand over your heart, viewed as being disrespectful now? At least in NFL circles. It is a genuine question I don't know the answer to.0
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Can’t both co-exist? I think the disrespectful thing is calling out someone else’s stand on the matter as a disrespectful act. At this time it seems easy enough to say something like I support my teammates decision to protest, but I will be standing in remembrance of my family that served in ww2. Has anyone said him choosing to stand is disrespectful? Tone deaf maybe. The disrespectful thing is defining someone else’s act of protest as disrespectful through your own 100m dollar nfl quarterback lens. Nothing against him standing. Just against him defining the actions of others.bbiggs said:So is standing during the national anthem, with your hand over your heart, viewed as being disrespectful now? At least in NFL circles. It is a genuine question I don't know the answer to.
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I don't think it is. And I don't think taking a knee is either. One is outwardly calling attention to love of country and flag. The other is outwardly calling attention to the way a segment of our population is treated by those in authority. For me, neither is necessary at a sporting event, and both are an exercise of speech, so I'll condemn neither, and probably won't participate in either. I'm just there for the beer and the competition.bbiggs said:So is standing during the national anthem, with your hand over your heart, viewed as being disrespectful now? At least in NFL circles. It is a genuine question I don't know the answer to."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
No, I’m selecting the one part that is most relevant and the reason why so many others, including his African American colleagues, are angry and disappointed.bbiggs said:
And you're selecting one piece and conveniently omitting the rest of what he said as to why HE has chosen to stand. It's crazy this is even a story.oftenreading said:
Incorrect. He said it was disrespectful to kneel during the anthem.bbiggs said:^ I listened to Drew Brees' comment and he said nothing wrong. He said he chooses to stand during the national anthem, and each time he does, he thinks of his grandfathers that served in WWII. Not sure how anyone can take offense to that. He said nothing negative about those who choose to take a knee or what it symbolizes. All he commented on was his choice to stand and why.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Very few people think that way. Some always will but most don't. And if they do it's inexcusable.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yet Colin Kapernick expresses his feelings, exercising his first amendment rights and loses his job and gets blacklisted from the NFL and has to sign an NDA as part of a settlement. Then is called a son of a bitch by Team Trump Treason at a public hate rally and has white fans publicly burning his jersey. You better believe the world is upside down. I hope his African American offensive lineman do a purposefully poor job of blocking for him so defensive players can sack his ass and whisper to him what they think about his comments as they get up slowly from the pile. I’m sure there’ll be some Vike and Hawk players happy to oblige. Poor Drew.RYME said:
That's exactly right. And yet you can't even talk like that. Thinks about Grandfathes that fought in WWII & those who fought for civil rights, admited that the USA isnt perfect but a lot of us are always trying to make it better for ALL. How in the hell is that so offensive? Didn't tell them not to kneel down either. So he explains why he stands with his hand over his heart and what he thinks about. And he is told to shut up and sit down.bbiggs said:^ I listened to Drew Brees' comment and he said nothing wrong. He said he chooses to stand during the national anthem, and each time he does, he thinks of his grandfathers that served in WWII. Not sure how anyone can take offense to that. He said nothing negative about those who choose to take a knee or what it symbolizes. All he commented on was his choice to stand and why.
We live in an upside down world.
Halifax,, I'm calling you out for the fraud that you are, I don't even believe that you were a die hard Pearl Jam fan, you hang around this website just to troll and keep the Flames burning that is your Hallmark.
I haven't commented anywhere recently, & the first time I make a peep there you are, I am sure Smelly will be soon to follow.
you are not actual Pearl Jam fans thatlove the band. YOU are in a group of hatres.
One of Eddie's most beautiful trates that initially drew many of us to their brand of music was his compassion for mankind.
None of that is displayed around here anymore.
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Without Googling it name your favorite song Halifax.0
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What I mean is halifax is you are pretty much a BOT!0
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Kind of like spelling - seems to be a lost art.RYME said:
Very few people think that way. Some always will but most don't. And if they do it's inexcusable.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yet Colin Kapernick expresses his feelings, exercising his first amendment rights and loses his job and gets blacklisted from the NFL and has to sign an NDA as part of a settlement. Then is called a son of a bitch by Team Trump Treason at a public hate rally and has white fans publicly burning his jersey. You better believe the world is upside down. I hope his African American offensive lineman do a purposefully poor job of blocking for him so defensive players can sack his ass and whisper to him what they think about his comments as they get up slowly from the pile. I’m sure there’ll be some Vike and Hawk players happy to oblige. Poor Drew.RYME said:
That's exactly right. And yet you can't even talk like that. Thinks about Grandfathes that fought in WWII & those who fought for civil rights, admited that the USA isnt perfect but a lot of us are always trying to make it better for ALL. How in the hell is that so offensive? Didn't tell them not to kneel down either. So he explains why he stands with his hand over his heart and what he thinks about. And he is told to shut up and sit down.bbiggs said:^ I listened to Drew Brees' comment and he said nothing wrong. He said he chooses to stand during the national anthem, and each time he does, he thinks of his grandfathers that served in WWII. Not sure how anyone can take offense to that. He said nothing negative about those who choose to take a knee or what it symbolizes. All he commented on was his choice to stand and why.
We live in an upside down world.
Halifax,, I'm calling you out for the fraud that you are, I don't even believe that you were a die hard Pearl Jam fan, you hang around this website just to troll and keep the Flames burning that is your Hallmark.
I haven't commented anywhere recently, & the first time I make a peep there you are, I am sure Smelly will be soon to follow.
you are not actual Pearl Jam fans thatlove the band. YOU are in a group of hatres.
One of Eddie's most beautiful trates that initially drew many of us to their brand of music was his compassion for mankind.
None of that is displayed around here anymore.
This post is hateful as well as inane.
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Wow! You’ve got me figured out. Come visit me on 4chan. Hmmmmm, my favorite song? Just Breathe.RYME said:
Very few people think that way. Some always will but most don't. And if they do it's inexcusable.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yet Colin Kapernick expresses his feelings, exercising his first amendment rights and loses his job and gets blacklisted from the NFL and has to sign an NDA as part of a settlement. Then is called a son of a bitch by Team Trump Treason at a public hate rally and has white fans publicly burning his jersey. You better believe the world is upside down. I hope his African American offensive lineman do a purposefully poor job of blocking for him so defensive players can sack his ass and whisper to him what they think about his comments as they get up slowly from the pile. I’m sure there’ll be some Vike and Hawk players happy to oblige. Poor Drew.RYME said:
That's exactly right. And yet you can't even talk like that. Thinks about Grandfathes that fought in WWII & those who fought for civil rights, admited that the USA isnt perfect but a lot of us are always trying to make it better for ALL. How in the hell is that so offensive? Didn't tell them not to kneel down either. So he explains why he stands with his hand over his heart and what he thinks about. And he is told to shut up and sit down.bbiggs said:^ I listened to Drew Brees' comment and he said nothing wrong. He said he chooses to stand during the national anthem, and each time he does, he thinks of his grandfathers that served in WWII. Not sure how anyone can take offense to that. He said nothing negative about those who choose to take a knee or what it symbolizes. All he commented on was his choice to stand and why.
We live in an upside down world.
Halifax,, I'm calling you out for the fraud that you are, I don't even believe that you were a die hard Pearl Jam fan, you hang around this website just to troll and keep the Flames burning that is your Hallmark.
I haven't commented anywhere recently, & the first time I make a peep there you are, I am sure Smelly will be soon to follow.
you are not actual Pearl Jam fans thatlove the band. YOU are in a group of hatres.
One of Eddie's most beautiful trates that initially drew many of us to their brand of music was his compassion for mankind.
None of that is displayed around here anymore.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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