This is ridiculous imo. Are we really to the point where we have to babysit everyone? Tell them who not to listen to and who to listen to regarding this fuckin virus? “Waaahhh I don’t like what he’s saying. It’s either me or him”. He sounds like an elderly baby.
Interesting take, Nick. He sounds to me more like a wise elder saying, "Fuck this guy for spreading information that is harmful to others," and then using his position as an well respected artist to make a difference- not because that is more important than his art (he has stated previously that he is a musician first before being an activist), but simply because he is in a position to do so, because he has the ability to use his visibility to do something positive. Damn, I wish I had that opportunity.
I respect your opinion. “It’s me or him” sounds like something a child would say. How many intelligent people were about to get vaccinated, then tuned into a podcast hosted by a ufc commentator/stand up comedian , then changed their mind? Enough to make a difference? I doubt it. Anti vaxers were around long before trump, Covid or the joe Rogan podcast.
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This is ridiculous imo. Are we really to the point where we have to babysit everyone? Tell them who not to listen to and who to listen to regarding this fuckin virus? “Waaahhh I don’t like what he’s saying. It’s either me or him”. He sounds like an elderly baby.
Interesting take, Nick. He sounds to me more like a wise elder saying, "Fuck this guy for spreading information that is harmful to others," and then using his position as an well respected artist to make a difference- not because that is more important than his art (he has stated previously that he is a musician first before being an activist), but simply because he is in a position to do so, because he has the ability to use his visibility to do something positive. Damn, I wish I had that opportunity.
I respect your opinion. “It’s me or him” sounds like something a child would say. How many intelligent people were about to get vaccinated, then tuned into a podcast hosted by a ufc commentator/stand up comedian , then changed their mind? Enough to make a difference? I doubt it. Anti vaxers were around long before trump, Covid or the joe Rogan podcast.
I know you're telling it like you see it, Nick, but I have to disagree here because this is more than about Rogan or other being anti-vaccination. It is also about Rogan making false claims about the pandemic and unproven treatments. The man has a huge number of fans and and many of them will fall for his lies and spread them to other people. Joe Rogan is a bit like a virus himself, spreading harm to other people. Neil Young has brought attention to this by his actions. Personally, I'm grateful for that.
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This is ridiculous imo. Are we really to the point where we have to babysit everyone? Tell them who not to listen to and who to listen to regarding this fuckin virus? “Waaahhh I don’t like what he’s saying. It’s either me or him”. He sounds like an elderly baby.
Interesting take, Nick. He sounds to me more like a wise elder saying, "Fuck this guy for spreading information that is harmful to others," and then using his position as an well respected artist to make a difference- not because that is more important than his art (he has stated previously that he is a musician first before being an activist), but simply because he is in a position to do so, because he has the ability to use his visibility to do something positive. Damn, I wish I had that opportunity.
I respect your opinion. “It’s me or him” sounds like something a child would say. How many intelligent people were about to get vaccinated, then tuned into a podcast hosted by a ufc commentator/stand up comedian , then changed their mind? Enough to make a difference? I doubt it. Anti vaxers were around long before trump, Covid or the joe Rogan podcast.
I know you're telling it like you see it, Nick, but I have to disagree here because this is more than about Rogan or other being anti-vaccination. It is also about Rogan making false claims about the pandemic and unproven treatments. The man has a huge number of fans and and many of them will fall for his lies and spread them to other people. Joe Rogan is a bit like a virus himself, spreading harm to other people. Neil Young has brought attention to this by his actions. Personally, I'm grateful for that.
I respect that Brian. I see where you’re coming from but I just can’t get there. Thanks for your thoughtful response. I wish there were more like it on AMT.
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This is ridiculous imo. Are we really to the point where we have to babysit everyone? Tell them who not to listen to and who to listen to regarding this fuckin virus? “Waaahhh I don’t like what he’s saying. It’s either me or him”. He sounds like an elderly baby.
Interesting take, Nick. He sounds to me more like a wise elder saying, "Fuck this guy for spreading information that is harmful to others," and then using his position as an well respected artist to make a difference- not because that is more important than his art (he has stated previously that he is a musician first before being an activist), but simply because he is in a position to do so, because he has the ability to use his visibility to do something positive. Damn, I wish I had that opportunity.
I respect your opinion. “It’s me or him” sounds like something a child would say. How many intelligent people were about to get vaccinated, then tuned into a podcast hosted by a ufc commentator/stand up comedian , then changed their mind? Enough to make a difference? I doubt it. Anti vaxers were around long before trump, Covid or the joe Rogan podcast.
I know you're telling it like you see it, Nick, but I have to disagree here because this is more than about Rogan or other being anti-vaccination. It is also about Rogan making false claims about the pandemic and unproven treatments. The man has a huge number of fans and and many of them will fall for his lies and spread them to other people. Joe Rogan is a bit like a virus himself, spreading harm to other people. Neil Young has brought attention to this by his actions. Personally, I'm grateful for that.
I respect that Brian. I see where you’re coming from but I just can’t get there. Thanks for your thoughtful response. I wish there were more like it on AMT.
It's a mine field here, that for sure, Nick! IO appreciate your civil reply.
I think all of us here could learn to be more thoughtful in our responses on AMT. I know I've been guilty of knee-jerk replies. In 2016 or 2017, I actually banned myself from AMT for 6 months after saying something highly inappropriate to Trump supporters in 2016. I was lucky to not receive a permanent ban for what I said. I think we can all learn to be better here.
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ME: Mark who? Regarding this guy, I would quote President Biden: "Stupid son of a bitch."
Lmfa of…Joe war monger…
Haha. No shit.
And those supposedly “better than that” have shown themselves as the opposite.
Ahh well. My little insignificant opinion.
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One could say, we are but little specks, incredibly small and insignificant. I'm glad there are a few bigger "stars" in the universe that can help bring about change for the good. I am not one.
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This is ridiculous imo. Are we really to the point where we have to babysit everyone? Tell them who not to listen to and who to listen to regarding this fuckin virus? “Waaahhh I don’t like what he’s saying. It’s either me or him”. He sounds like an elderly baby.
Interesting take, Nick. He sounds to me more like a wise elder saying, "Fuck this guy for spreading information that is harmful to others," and then using his position as an well respected artist to make a difference- not because that is more important than his art (he has stated previously that he is a musician first before being an activist), but simply because he is in a position to do so, because he has the ability to use his visibility to do something positive. Damn, I wish I had that opportunity.
I respect your opinion. “It’s me or him” sounds like something a child would say. How many intelligent people were about to get vaccinated, then tuned into a podcast hosted by a ufc commentator/stand up comedian , then changed their mind? Enough to make a difference? I doubt it. Anti vaxers were around long before trump, Covid or the joe Rogan podcast.
I know you're telling it like you see it, Nick, but I have to disagree here because this is more than about Rogan or other being anti-vaccination. It is also about Rogan making false claims about the pandemic and unproven treatments. The man has a huge number of fans and and many of them will fall for his lies and spread them to other people. Joe Rogan is a bit like a virus himself, spreading harm to other people. Neil Young has brought attention to this by his actions. Personally, I'm grateful for that.
I respect that Brian. I see where you’re coming from but I just can’t get there. Thanks for your thoughtful response. I wish there were more like it on AMT.
The babysitting/child analogy is interesting, but it is Rogan acting like a child that caused an artist like Neil to do what he did. Rogan/Spotify profiting off of false information because their target audience loves it is the ultimate in dangerous childish behavior.
The author of I Am a Child yelling at a grown man acting like a child is just too rich to pass up.
I don't see Young as being childish. And he's not stupid. I'm sure he realises Spotify would rather have Rogan than himself. In a sense, he's canceling himself off the platform.
If he doesn't want to be involved with Spotify over allowing the spread of misinformation (or what he perceives to be misinformation) that's his choice, no?
We saw this same stuff with Facebook and Twitter, and they both acted way too late in removing content that was harmful.
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this is kinda silly. I mean, to take Neil seriously, I think you have to take into consideration if his demand not being met would even make a difference in his life. he's risking nearly zero if spotify calls his bluff. he makes no money off spotify. no one does. and exposure at his level is meaningless. Rogan is one of their biggest assets. he's just taking a "moral" stand without having to really back it up with anything.
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this is kinda silly. I mean, to take Neil seriously, I think you have to take into consideration if his demand not being met would even make a difference in his life. he's risking nearly zero if spotify calls his bluff. he makes no money off spotify. no one does. and exposure at his level is meaningless. Rogan is one of their biggest assets. he's just taking a "moral" stand without having to really back it up with anything.
It'll be interesting to see whether anyone else follows suit. Particularly a certain band that loves Uncle Neil and once cancelled a concert in North Carolina in order to be like the Boss.
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this is kinda silly. I mean, to take Neil seriously, I think you have to take into consideration if his demand not being met would even make a difference in his life. he's risking nearly zero if spotify calls his bluff. he makes no money off spotify. no one does. and exposure at his level is meaningless. Rogan is one of their biggest assets. he's just taking a "moral" stand without having to really back it up with anything.
BFD. Neil knows who his fans are, and I don't blame him for not wanting to share the same platform with an idiot like Rogan.
It’s amusing to me…that’s all.
im not a big Young fan anyways. I’ve watched a few Rogan episodes. I’ve yet to see him say anything over the top. I will say this, the dude smokes a lot of Cannabis and seems more curious about stuff than anything at times…so maybe getting lit and hosting a podcast is not good idea…I’ve softened a little on Rogan…but as others say It depends on the guest…
this is kinda silly. I mean, to take Neil seriously, I think you have to take into consideration if his demand not being met would even make a difference in his life. he's risking nearly zero if spotify calls his bluff. he makes no money off spotify. no one does. and exposure at his level is meaningless. Rogan is one of their biggest assets. he's just taking a "moral" stand without having to really back it up with anything.
I'd say if he has little to lose, and the potential to start a trend (i.e. other artists following suit) for positive reasons - why not?
I've seen stranger things 'go viral'.
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I know you're telling it like you see it, Nick, but I have to disagree here because this is more than about Rogan or other being anti-vaccination. It is also about Rogan making false claims about the pandemic and unproven treatments. The man has a huge number of fans and and many of them will fall for his lies and spread them to other people. Joe Rogan is a bit like a virus himself, spreading harm to other people. Neil Young has brought attention to this by his actions. Personally, I'm grateful for that.
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-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Regarding this guy, I would quote President Biden: "Stupid son of a bitch."
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
And those supposedly “better than that” have shown themselves as the opposite.
Ahh well. My little insignificant opinion.
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If he doesn't want to be involved with Spotify over allowing the spread of misinformation (or what he perceives to be misinformation) that's his choice, no?
We saw this same stuff with Facebook and Twitter, and they both acted way too late in removing content that was harmful.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
-EV 8/14/93
BFD. Neil knows who his fans are, and I don't blame him for not wanting to share the same platform with an idiot like Rogan.
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im not a big Young fan anyways. I’ve watched a few Rogan episodes. I’ve yet to see him say anything over the top. I will say this, the dude smokes a lot of Cannabis and seems more curious about stuff than anything at times…so maybe getting lit and hosting a podcast is not good idea…I’ve softened a little on Rogan…but as others say It depends on the guest…
I've seen stranger things 'go viral'.
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