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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,554
    edited May 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjl44 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    If polling starts to show Amash could have a negative impact on Trump, those allegations will come.
    I'm not convinced on the veracity of Reade's allegation, but it's not like this is a new thing with Biden
    Are we equating “sexual assault allegations” with “inappropriate touching” and “creepy behavior,” or “made to feel uncomfortable?” 
    No, there's definitely a big difference. The latter 3 make it more likely to believe an accusation of the first, though. For the record, if I was already planning to vote for Biden I still would given where things stand today. Standing up and giving an unequivocal denial is significant to me. But the baggage we know about would make me a little nervous. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,554
    I'm sitting this one out
    This is a pretty wild exchange from a year and a half ago. Link after the screenshot to verify it's real.





  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    Except the woke liberal bloggers are the problem
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    Biden
    I would have bet good money in December of 2018 that Biden would get nowhere close to the nomination. But that aside, you didn't need a crystal ball to predict something like this happening if the nominee was male.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,554
    I'm sitting this one out
    When your earnest argument only needs a slight tweak to be turned into satire


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/opinions/biden-tara-reade-allegations-2008-vetting-axelrod/index.html

    Compelling... Axelrod is no lackey either. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,112
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/opinions/biden-tara-reade-allegations-2008-vetting-axelrod/index.html

    Compelling... Axelrod is no lackey either. 
    Do you honestly think that anyone will click on a link you post ever again?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/opinions/biden-tara-reade-allegations-2008-vetting-axelrod/index.html

    Compelling... Axelrod is no lackey either. 
    Do you honestly think that anyone will click on a link you post ever again?
    Haha... I sent one to my friends titled "Pearl Jam to launch club tour in 2021".
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,554
    I'm sitting this one out
    "David Axelrod"


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    Handsome chap, that senior political adviser...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    The goal posts just keep moving around..

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/495815-tara-reade-says-biden-complaint-was-limited-i-know-i-was-too-scared-to#
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,436
    mrussel1 said:
    The goal posts just keep moving around..

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/495815-tara-reade-says-biden-complaint-was-limited-i-know-i-was-too-scared-to#
    Another oddity.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-accuser-tara-reade-not-sure-what-complaint-she-claims-n1198741
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,978
    Jason P said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    The Brett Kavanaugh comparison isn't going away, but it remains hot garbage.

    Garbage indeed. 

    Kavanaugh never had to face voters nor did he need one single vote from the opposition party. That is a huge part of why there was an uproar over his confirmation hearings. Biden must face voters and needs to win non democratic states in order to win the election. Huge difference.
    The voters did storm the capital if I recall so that kinda counts as facing them.  Instead of dressing up like GI Joe action figures they cosplayed as Handsmaid Tale actors.


    lol. I’ll have to be more specific. The voters nor opposition party had no legal action available to stop kavanaugh. The voters can certainly stop Biden.
  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    Even if I think he's innocent....I still don't like him!!!! His hands are dirty!!! Filthy!!! His son works for Ukraine.... Political all the way. Not for the working man.   Better than Trump???   Have no choice
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,436
    And her story, “that she’s been trying to tell since 1993,” changes again to accommodate the few details or the “details” that may emerge. And Tara canceled a Faux Friends appearance because of “safety concerns?” How convenient. Faux News has broadcast locations throughout the country and could set up in an undisclosed location and tape for later broadcast. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, did you hear?

    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2020/05/02/tara-reade-joe-biden-sexaul-assault-allegation
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  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    From the AP, a quote from a 2019 interview...

    During one of the April 2019 interviews with the AP, she said Biden rubbed her shoulders and neck and played with her hair. She said she was asked by an aide in Biden’s Senate office to dress more conservatively and told “don’t be so sexy.”

    She said of Biden: “I wasn’t scared of him, that he was going to take me in a room or anything. It wasn’t that kind of vibe.”

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    So we know that she respects him and she wasn’t scared of him.  Yet he raped her.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    From the AP, a quote from a 2019 interview...

    During one of the April 2019 interviews with the AP, she said Biden rubbed her shoulders and neck and played with her hair. She said she was asked by an aide in Biden’s Senate office to dress more conservatively and told “don’t be so sexy.”

    She said of Biden: “I wasn’t scared of him, that he was going to take me in a room or anything. It wasn’t that kind of vibe.”

    #metoo...?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    From the AP, a quote from a 2019 interview...

    During one of the April 2019 interviews with the AP, she said Biden rubbed her shoulders and neck and played with her hair. She said she was asked by an aide in Biden’s Senate office to dress more conservatively and told “don’t be so sexy.”

    She said of Biden: “I wasn’t scared of him, that he was going to take me in a room or anything. It wasn’t that kind of vibe.”

    #metoo...?
    Im sorry a politician rubbed your neck. 
  • brianlux
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    Biden
    Disturbing...


    'Are you a spoiler?': why critics fear Amash's Libertarian bid may ensure a Trump win


    Amash could prove attractive to small-government Republicans who already lean libertarian. But the former Illinois congressman Joe Walsh, who challenged Trump in this year’s Republican primary, argues that this is not the time.

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    “I think it’s a huge mistake, it’s the wrong thing to do,” he said. “It will help get Trump elected. Amash and I are friends, we’re colleagues, but he’s clearly putting what’s best for Justin Amash ahead of what’s best for the country. If he does it, it’s a selfish thing for him to do. It is very disappointing.


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