Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

brianlux

Biden

Halifax2TheMax said:

Did someone mention electric boats and sharks? Anyone?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8U_4KfJKy6/?igsh=NWNuYTd2NWl5c3c0

And people are freaking out because Biden spaces out for a few moments?  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

eeriepadave

Biden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDryx4EM0Xg

lindamarie73

brianlux said:

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

I'd like Trump to explain how it is that one of the most intelligent people I have personally known is a black University professor, one of the most successful is a black lawyer, one of the greatest published writers I've met is an Hispanic poet (Gary Soto), and likely the most overall successful person in terms of position and wealth is a woman I know who is Indian (as in the country, India) .  An Indian AND a woman!  How the hell did that happen?

I guess hard work pays off no matter who you are in this country? I guess this country isn’t as racist as some people constantly say? 

That is very true in some parts of the country, less true in others.  But obviously racism is still a major issue in the U.S.   Any time you have a racist who is a major contender for the position of president, that country has a strong racist presence. 

Shit for Brains Joe has had some wing-dingers over the years to assist w/ this “Strong Racist Presence”….Here are just a few below for y’all fact checkers…lol.  Anyone buy their plane tickets yet for mid November?  Venezuela is nice that time of year..

mrussel1

Biden

lindamarie73 said:

brianlux said:

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

I'd like Trump to explain how it is that one of the most intelligent people I have personally known is a black University professor, one of the most successful is a black lawyer, one of the greatest published writers I've met is an Hispanic poet (Gary Soto), and likely the most overall successful person in terms of position and wealth is a woman I know who is Indian (as in the country, India) .  An Indian AND a woman!  How the hell did that happen?

I guess hard work pays off no matter who you are in this country? I guess this country isn’t as racist as some people constantly say? 

That is very true in some parts of the country, less true in others.  But obviously racism is still a major issue in the U.S.   Any time you have a racist who is a major contender for the position of president, that country has a strong racist presence. 

Shit for Brains Joe has had some wing-dingers over the years to assist w/ this “Strong Racist Presence”….Here are just a few below for y’all fact checkers…lol.  Anyone buy their plane tickets yet for mid November?  Venezuela is nice that time of year..

Linda,,I didn't realize you supported busing. This is a very surprising revelation. 

Would you like more than 3 racist things Trump has said? I don't think we need to go back to 77 to find them. 

Bentleyspop

Biden

mrussel1 said:

lindamarie73 said:

brianlux said:

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

I'd like Trump to explain how it is that one of the most intelligent people I have personally known is a black University professor, one of the most successful is a black lawyer, one of the greatest published writers I've met is an Hispanic poet (Gary Soto), and likely the most overall successful person in terms of position and wealth is a woman I know who is Indian (as in the country, India) .  An Indian AND a woman!  How the hell did that happen?

I guess hard work pays off no matter who you are in this country? I guess this country isn’t as racist as some people constantly say? 

That is very true in some parts of the country, less true in others.  But obviously racism is still a major issue in the U.S.   Any time you have a racist who is a major contender for the position of president, that country has a strong racist presence. 

Shit for Brains Joe has had some wing-dingers over the years to assist w/ this “Strong Racist Presence”….Here are just a few below for y’all fact checkers…lol.  Anyone buy their plane tickets yet for mid November?  Venezuela is nice that time of year..

Linda,,I didn't realize you supported busing. This is a very surprising revelation. 

Would you like more than 3 racist things Trump has said? I don't think we need to go back to 77 to find them. 

The grifter-n-chief could be standing in front of her spewing more of his bs, dogwhistles, and lies and she and those like her would hear it and say that he not only never said it but that they agree with him.

jerparker20

Biden

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Did someone mention electric boats and sharks? Anyone?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8U_4KfJKy6/?igsh=NWNuYTd2NWl5c3c0

And people are freaking out because Biden spaces out for a few moments?  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Here’s the difference though: Trump says this crazy shit at his cult rallies which Fox News won’t even broadcast. The only people seeing/hearing this are the cult members who are there or tuning in via the Right Side Broadcast Network YouTube page, or hyper online Twitter users. The general, run or the mill, American is not.

Biden on the other hand, blew it in front of the general, run of the mill Americans on a nationally broadcast debate that all available media covered and reported on. Everyone saw it and continues to see it.

Lerxst1992

brianlux said:

Lerxst1992 said:

BF25394 said:

Biden has been underestimated for a long time. First, Obama made the choice to give his support to Hillary Clinton over Biden as his successor. (Biden did not ultimately run in 2016, mostly due to the death of his son, but Obama's decision was also a factor.) In the 2020 Democratic primaries, Biden was written off as old and out of touch with the imagined progressive base of the party. After Iowa and New Hampshire, he was written off. Then he won the nomination going away because he was always the best candidate and was always the candidate who was most in synch with the actual Democratic base, which is not progressives on Twitter. Then he beat Trump easily in the general election. He's still the only person to beat Trump (other than in individual state primaries or caucuses).

I'm not stating a position here on whether Biden should stay in the race or not. I'm just pointing out that, from his perspective and the perspective of his closest advisors, this is surely part of the analysis.

The contrast between Democrats wetting the bed over a bad debate performance and Republicans not even blinking when their guy foments an insurrection, refuses to concede the election, and gets convicted of 34 felony counts-- and rambles incoherently and lies throughout the same debate that Biden tanked-- is striking.

I don’t believe Biden has dementia, but he came across in the debate  as possibly having dementia, and definitely came across as incapable of doing the job.  I will vote for him, but I turned the debate off in five minutes because he looked and sounded that bad, and I didn’t want my wife yelling at me at how terrible Biden was, and she is more liberal than me. She has been saying for months Biden is not fit to beat trump.

A few days ago I spoke with my Aunt who is a few years older than Biden. She sounded one hundred percent sharper and smarter than Biden did. Yes that was not on national TV with intense pressure, but Biden is trained to handle that or should have been. I’m not sure of who I fear more, Biden, or democratic political leadership, who don’t seem to be able to run an effective campaign since Obama. The Covid campaign was a fluke, and they got very lucky.

And the excuse given that he had a cold is absurd. He could have started the debate with a joke about being sick and completely diffused that problem.

What exactly is dementia?

I know what it is.  Both my mother and her sister, my aunt, died from complications due to Alzheimer's. But what I'm getting at is that dementia is at its most basic, brain aging, and it comes in many forms and at many rates of change.  The Alzheimer's organization says that, "When you met someone with Alzheimer's, you've met one person with Alzheimer's", meaning every single case is unique at some level.

My father lived to be 94 and up until the last couple of years of his life, he served as a deacon for the Presbyterian Church.  His years of experiences and knowledge were well respected and he was consulted frequently.  My mother, on the other hand, was pretty much "out of it" by her early 80s (but as lovable as ever!)

I hope this fiasco leads some some changes, like mandatory cognitive testing for all candidates for important political positions.   I'm not sure an age limit is a good idea, however.  Should my father have been let go as a Deacon when he reached 80?  85? 90?

But we should start testing these candidates.  Both Biden and Trump should be tested.  I can understand questioning if either one is mentally fit for the job. (I still say, Biden is by far the least dangerous.)

I also lost a parent to complications from dementia. It is a horrible experience.  As I said before, I don’t believe Biden has dementia. I do believe it’s nearly impossible to win when 80% of independents believe he is unfit to serve.

Candidates can come back from serious problems, such as the brilliance of the USSC granting trump magical immunity powers that will possibly clear him of his 34 convictions.

But coming back from the worst debate performance in history? There is only one debate remaining and it is not very likely Biden can accomplish everything needed, including outdebating trump and sounding and looking sharp for two hours.

 

mrussel1

Biden

jerparker20 said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Did someone mention electric boats and sharks? Anyone?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8U_4KfJKy6/?igsh=NWNuYTd2NWl5c3c0

And people are freaking out because Biden spaces out for a few moments?  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Here’s the difference though: Trump says this crazy shit at his cult rallies which Fox News won’t even broadcast. The only people seeing/hearing this are the cult members who are there or tuning in via the Right Side Broadcast Network YouTube page, or hyper online Twitter users. The general, run or the mill, American is not.

Biden on the other hand, blew it in front of the general, run of the mill Americans on a nationally broadcast debate that all available media covered and reported on. Everyone saw it and continues to see it.

Dead on.  None of the crazy things get any air time

Lerxst1992

mrussel1 said:

jerparker20 said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Did someone mention electric boats and sharks? Anyone?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8U_4KfJKy6/?igsh=NWNuYTd2NWl5c3c0

And people are freaking out because Biden spaces out for a few moments?  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Here’s the difference though: Trump says this crazy shit at his cult rallies which Fox News won’t even broadcast. The only people seeing/hearing this are the cult members who are there or tuning in via the Right Side Broadcast Network YouTube page, or hyper online Twitter users. The general, run or the mill, American is not.

Biden on the other hand, blew it in front of the general, run of the mill Americans on a nationally broadcast debate that all available media covered and reported on. Everyone saw it and continues to see it.

Dead on.  None of the crazy things get any air time

But…every little misstep by Biden turns into a social M nightmare short video on TikTok or IG reels. I thought Bidens first term was impressive but he  has changed this year and the debate was…

 I am barely on social M and since the debate nightmare I’ve seen the trump forces turning innocent things…Biden walking in a different direction than directed to…having issue getting on a jacket…dropping his sunglasses…into a 30 second loop that makes him look unfit to serve. These videos are endless and Biden can not reach these voters thru conventional means. The damage has already been done by him and his team. And it will fester for three months due to perhaps the biggest blunder ever by democratic leadership.

 None of these images should have been on video.

since Obama’s two main guys retired, democratic general election campaigning has been a dumpster fire, outside of the Covid miracle that helped Biden win last time. Every move Biden makes on camera and every word he says should be scripted like a Hollywood production (exactly what I accused the gops doing w Reagan 40 years ago )

At the debate  Biden should have had twenty key points memorized. He should have been instructed not to stray from that list. Also his tone and delivery should have been better managed. Instead, he was clearly overloaded with data and tried “sprinting” thru hundreds of meaningless detailed specifics, and today Americans are wondering where the “trillionaires” are living. 

And another huge blunder by his team. An early June debate with no follow-up for three months. It may be impossible to get that image out of voter minds with three months of his blunders rummaging thru everyone’s social M feeds. A mistake this colonial by a management team has not been made before 

that decision was made by a team of over confident leadership. Smells more like Hilary’s team than Obamas. 80% say he is unfit. And now his team is trying to white wash us that he is fit? MAGA approves.

pjl44

I'm sitting this one out

Floodgates are open

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/conspiracy-of-silence-to-protect-joe-biden.html

dasvidana

Biden

If Joe Biden shows up for debate number 2 in an urn, I will still vote for him over the orange monster.

mcgruff10

Biden

These have to be the two worst candidates in the history of the US. In a country of over 330 million this is the best each party can do?! ugh.

pjl44

I'm sitting this one out

mcgruff10 said:

These have to be the two worst candidates in the history of the US. In a country of over 330 million this is the best each party can do?! ugh.

https://youtu.be/rVXekzwkz10?si=rJIP37NFnI0-9sD9

pjl44

I'm sitting this one out

dasvidana said:

If Joe Biden shows up for debate number 2 in an urn, I will still vote for him over the orange monster.

The problem is that the number of people who agree with you is dwindling 

wnh1977

Remember when Pearl jam had the "Ridin' with Biden" t-shirts? How out of touch is this band become?

Gern Blansten

Biden

I'm hearing trump might select Flynn for VP 

mickeyrat

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

I'm hearing trump might select Flynn for VP 

where? Sec Def makes more sense

CM189191

CM189191 said:

myoung321 said:

Biden or Trump...honesty, whats the difference?..  Yeah I'm in that kinda mood today! hahaha 

Will either help and fight for workers? NO...

Will either push for an improved healthcare system that covers all Americans? NO......

Will both continue bailouts for Corporations? Yes....

Will either enact policies and taxes that will help rise up and give security to the lower and middle class? NO...

Will either fight to reverse their own parties policies of the last 50 years to fix the problems caused by letting corporations dictate law through a corrupt system?  NO......

Will either break up the big monopolies that have been allowed to form once again? No.....(How many times must we learn this lesson?)

So then what's the difference between the two?  A big D or R next to their names?  GO TEAM!!!! 

One is the village idiot and the other is a plagiarizing life long politician with a clear record of not helping anyone but the donor class and his own career ...  not just Biden.. Since pandemic both Hillary Clinton and Pelosi both have yelled "OPEN THE OBAMACARE EXCHANGES!

(That worse than "Let them eat cake" its more like....  "Let them buy cake" )
 
I know I'll get yelled at... But it's TRUMP... but But but..I know.. I hate him too....  

Bottom line... A real leader is either going to fight for the people, some even willing to give their lives in that pursuit. or they're aren't and are part of the broke system. ... right now in American history I don't see anyone fighting for the people..  

So yeah I'll vote Biden.. then go home and wash my hands a bunch of times to try to wash the dirty feeling away...
 
WE NEED A 3rd PARTY!!!!!!!  
 

....sigh....

The US isn't set up to be a multiparty system.  The checks and balances are in the 3 branches of government.  There will never ever ever be a viable 3rd party option, or 3 party system of government here. 

The last election cost us 2 Supreme Court seats and countless lifetime appointments to federal judges.  This will now take an entire generation to undo.  

...been thinking about this post (from 2020) a lot lately....

pjl44

I'm sitting this one out

Gern Blansten said:

I'm hearing trump might select Flynn for VP 

Find a book and make a fortune 

brianlux

Biden

Will Biden drop out?  Will he stay in? Who would take his place?  Could he win anyway?

Nobody knows, and meanwhile the clock is ticking.  

Somebody has to make a move.  

It's really not a good move to be deer in headlights.

But here we are.

Sorry, yeah, I'm kind of freaking out.  Life these days feels like bad drugs without the drugs.