Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    Biden on Morning Joe is the Biden that needed to be at the debate. He was on fire.
    The problem is like 200,000 people watched that compared to 50,000,000 who watched the debate. 

    If he doesn't drop out and has another episode like he did during the debate in a month from now...then what?
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    I'm sitting this one out
    "Meeting with Xi - hope we get Morning Joe Prez and not Debate Prez. Fingers crossed."

    You cannot function like that.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,260
    Biden
    Either is far superior to the orange fuckface.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    I'm sitting this one out
    Gern Blansten said:
    Either is far superior to the orange fuckface.
    This ignores the problem which is that a declining number of people agree with you 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Biden
    My Bic Round Stic pen is a far superior to Donald Trump...but pjl44 is right, Gern.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,948
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Biden on Morning Joe is the Biden that needed to be at the debate. He was on fire.
    The problem is like 200,000 people watched that compared to 50,000,000 who watched the debate. 

    If he doesn't drop out and has another episode like he did during the debate in a month from now...then what?

    Joe can do a debate on morning Joe every other day and CNN all the other days and not reach half the voters that the debate did. But..he will now always be one embarrassing slip from proving the naysayers right and the democrats as liars.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,425
    Biden
    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Biden on Morning Joe is the Biden that needed to be at the debate. He was on fire.
    The problem is like 200,000 people watched that compared to 50,000,000 who watched the debate. 

    If he doesn't drop out and has another episode like he did during the debate in a month from now...then what?

    Joe can do a debate on morning Joe every other day and CNN all the other days and not reach half the voters that the debate did. But..he will now always be one embarrassing slip from proving the naysayers right and the democrats as liars.
    And Trump now gets to skate by on what he has said, done, will do or will say as usual. Seems about right. They can be critical of Biden and continue to hammer how much worse Trump is and always has been. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,546
    Biden
    cnn parent company ceo......

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  • mickeyrat
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    Biden
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  • mickeyrat
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    Biden
    what?

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,546
    Biden
    a different dr gupta....

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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    a different dr gupta....

    I get a kick out of Mika saying this is "the only story of the day"-- as if they're not making an editorial decision to talk about only this story. Or as if they don't make an editorial decision to only talk about politics every day instead of a million serious stories from the U.S. and around the world that cable news completely ignores.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,382
    mickeyrat said:
    what?

    The heart strings sound track is a nice touch. I reached for my hanky. Several times.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,260
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    Biden
    tRump's VP pick is going to be really interesting...

    Vance is probably the best from a right wing nazi standpoint. 

    I can't imagine him picking Rubio but who knows. Maybe we'll get that curveball like Flynn.

    Haley? Not sure if tRump can handle that.
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  • cincybearcat
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    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    tRump's VP pick is going to be really interesting...

    Vance is probably the best from a right wing nazi standpoint. 

    I can't imagine him picking Rubio but who knows. Maybe we'll get that curveball like Flynn.

    Haley? Not sure if tRump can handle that.
    At one point I would have been interested in Rubio on the big stage.  Him falling in line with trump since has changed that for me.  Haley's recent comment about her voters supporting trump may have soured her for me forever as well.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,382
    Gern Blansten said:
    tRump's VP pick is going to be really interesting...

    Vance is probably the best from a right wing nazi standpoint. 

    I can't imagine him picking Rubio but who knows. Maybe we'll get that curveball like Flynn.

    Haley? Not sure if tRump can handle that.
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  • tbergs
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    Biden
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tRump's VP pick is going to be really interesting...

    Vance is probably the best from a right wing nazi standpoint. 

    I can't imagine him picking Rubio but who knows. Maybe we'll get that curveball like Flynn.

    Haley? Not sure if tRump can handle that.
    At one point I would have been interested in Rubio on the big stage.  Him falling in line with trump since has changed that for me.  Haley's recent comment about her voters supporting trump may have soured her for me forever as well.
    Back in 2015/2016, I was actually hoping Rubio would come out of that nomination process, but now, meh. He had potential to be a decent conservative candidate and now he's just a step above Ted Cruz in likeability. Cruz is still the most punchable. What a douche.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Biden
    I read something where Rubio would pose a potential problem because of something in the constitution of the Prez and VP not being from the same state?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,841
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I read something where Rubio would pose a potential problem because of something in the constitution of the Prez and VP not being from the same state?
    The 12th Amendment was added to the Constitution in 1804 to modify the Electoral College process -- specifically how the president and vice president are selected at once. If Trump selected Rubio as his running mate, electors from Florida could not vote for both Trump and Rubio under the 12th Amendment

    But from what I have heard it is easy to get around if they truly want to....move.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    In 2016, he picked Pence because Pence was a boring old politician. That doesn't have to be a consideration anymore. 

    While this might not matter to Trump, I suspect there are lots of people in the party that want someone that will have the courage to do what Pence would not do...that is vow never to certify a presidential election to a Democrat. That is where the party and the country are.

    After that, Trump could go for attractive women (Noem, or if she's too old, Tulski). Maybe, as pointed out before, someone like Vance who will be all-in on dictatorship and stepping aside so Ivanka or Junior can run in four years. Of course, there are a lot of Trump toadies to choose from.

    I've always felt like Tulski would be a wise choice. The whole "Democrat turned MAGA" thing might send a message about moving to MAGA because of how crazy the Dems have become (LOL, but lots of people believe that).  She also won't stand between Trump and Vlad. She's a woman, which can help when the Dems have a female running mate. And she'll be all-in on authoritarianism. 
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