Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,820
    Biden
    As an FYI, this whole idea that pollsters only call landlines is a bunch of malarky. I’ve gotten two calls this week on my cell from polling orgs. I didn’t participate since I was told they would need 15-20 minutes of my time. F that. 

    I guess I'm lucky and have gotten neither (and yes, I'm one of the 0.0000001% of Americans who still have a land line :lol:), but I get poll requests on my email and especially on FaceBook all the time.  I just ignore them.  But then, at this point in time, I ignore all polls related to the presidential race.  Why do we even have them now?  Like CM189191 said, they're just click bate. 
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,311
    I'm sitting this one out
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    shecky said:


    Oh MY GOD!  Our savior at last!
    :rofl:

    We can only be so lucky that God was there to save him from the bullet.

    I have often wished aliens would come and whisk him away to another planet, but in reality, the last thing we need is for Trump to become a martyr, so I'm glad he wasn't killed (and I don't like killing anyway).   It's ridiculous enough that somehow some people think that getting shot automatically makes someone a hero. 

    I think if he were assassinated it would cause violence from his base worse than what we saw on Jan 6th.  It is more tragic someone else was killed that day.
    Yeah of course. In this environment especially if a candidate was murdered it would be chaos.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
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  • sheckyshecky Posts: 1,774
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)




  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,321
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)




    Wet dreams are better than soiled diapers and your boy walks around soiled all the time🤢
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,390
    Biden
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)




    In 2016, Democrats were overconfident that Hillary Clinton would win because they thought Donald Trump was such a bad candidate while forgetting that Hillary was also extremely unpopular. How did that turn out for the Democrats?

    In 2024, Republicans are weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win* because they think Joe Biden is such a bad candidate while forgetting that Trump is still extremely unpopular. Trump has run for president twice and did not reach 47 percent of the vote either time. In the Real Clear Politics polling average right now, with all the tailwinds he's enjoying at the moment, his average vote percentage is 47.7. He is below 50 percent in ten of the twelve polls that make up that average. (In the 538.com polling average, Trump is at 43.5 percent.) These numbers are better than Biden's, to be sure, but this is not FDR you've nominated. This is a guy that a majority of the American public, and a majority of the American voting populace, really does not like.

    So you might want to slow your roll when you crow about crowd sizes, especially in light of the fact that Republicans said the same thing in 2020 about the relative sizes of the crowds at Trump and Biden rallies, and then Biden got seven million more votes than Trump.

    *In fairness, Democrats are also weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win, just as many Republicans (including Trump) mostly assumed that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016.


    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)






    neat, did they promise to make the trains run on time?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,321
    BF25394 said:
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)




    In 2016, Democrats were overconfident that Hillary Clinton would win because they thought Donald Trump was such a bad candidate while forgetting that Hillary was also extremely unpopular. How did that turn out for the Democrats?

    In 2024, Republicans are weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win* because they think Joe Biden is such a bad candidate while forgetting that Trump is still extremely unpopular. Trump has run for president twice and did not reach 47 percent of the vote either time. In the Real Clear Politics polling average right now, with all the tailwinds he's enjoying at the moment, his average vote percentage is 47.7. He is below 50 percent in ten of the twelve polls that make up that average. (In the 538.com polling average, Trump is at 43.5 percent.) These numbers are better than Biden's, to be sure, but this is not FDR you've nominated. This is a guy that a majority of the American public, and a majority of the American voting populace, really does not like.

    So you might want to slow your roll when you crow about crowd sizes, especially in light of the fact that Republicans said the same thing in 2020 about the relative sizes of the crowds at Trump and Biden rallies, and then Biden got seven million more votes than Trump.

    *In fairness, Democrats are also weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win, just as many Republicans (including Trump) mostly assumed that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016.


    All good points! 
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    BF25394 said:
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)




    In 2016, Democrats were overconfident that Hillary Clinton would win because they thought Donald Trump was such a bad candidate while forgetting that Hillary was also extremely unpopular. How did that turn out for the Democrats?

    In 2024, Republicans are weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win* because they think Joe Biden is such a bad candidate while forgetting that Trump is still extremely unpopular. Trump has run for president twice and did not reach 47 percent of the vote either time. In the Real Clear Politics polling average right now, with all the tailwinds he's enjoying at the moment, his average vote percentage is 47.7. He is below 50 percent in ten of the twelve polls that make up that average. (In the 538.com polling average, Trump is at 43.5 percent.) These numbers are better than Biden's, to be sure, but this is not FDR you've nominated. This is a guy that a majority of the American public, and a majority of the American voting populace, really does not like.

    So you might want to slow your roll when you crow about crowd sizes, especially in light of the fact that Republicans said the same thing in 2020 about the relative sizes of the crowds at Trump and Biden rallies, and then Biden got seven million more votes than Trump.

    *In fairness, Democrats are also weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win, just as many Republicans (including Trump) mostly assumed that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016.


    Guilty of thinking he’d never beat her even though she wasn’t my favorite.  
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,663
    Biden
    Probably time to end this thread and start a new one...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)






    neat, did they promise to make the trains run on time?
    yes. policy proposal out in 2 weeks.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    Biden

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,745
    mickeyrat said:

    But of course. Anyone paying attention knows the fix is in. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,321
    mickeyrat said:

    But of course. Anyone paying attention knows the fix is in. 
    https://www.threads.net/@rbreich/post/C-Gg7W-oeht/?xmt=AQGz2rpgEA_NYZU8VxdhHo9NrnN3rUqh8Qo8ujhE9Au1qQ
    What happens if these folk’s deny the results in their states what can be done about it ? 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    Biden
    jenna ellis is cooperating with Airizona AG.

    breakdown of the agreement found here

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,246
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    jenna ellis is cooperating with Airizona AG.

    breakdown of the agreement found here

    she is gonna get revenge for rudy covid farting on her that time.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    edited September 3
    Biden
    awww..... those mean women who were minding their own business being civicly engaged as poll workers.....

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    Biden
    Newsmax settles Smartmatic defamation suit over 2020 false election claims - https://www.reuters.com/legal/trial-begins-over-claims-newsmax-defamed-smartmatic-2020-election-reporting-2024-09-26/
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  • Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    are they going to release the amount of the settlement? last i checked it was not made public.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    edited September 26
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    are they going to release the amount of the settlement? last i checked it was not made public.

    confidential according to this article. given the stated valuation of newsmaxx (67 mil?) I would guess about half?  Hope it gets released soon. they are considering going public in an ipo so I would assume it gets disclosd there?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,527
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    are they going to release the amount of the settlement? last i checked it was not made public.

    confidential according to this article. given the stated valuation of newsmaxx (67 mil?) I would guess about half?  Hope it gets released soon. they are considering going public in an ipo so I would assume it gets disclosd there?
    It's disappointing if it is confidential.  I can't imagine smartmatic was focused on the amount, rather the reputational damage.  I hope, at the least, it will include a public admission of wrongdoing, including on their broadcasts. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    Biden
    cue Nelson meme and congrats ladies. so sorry you were dragged into this garbage for simply participating in civic engagement.



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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,745
    mickeyrat said:
    cue Nelson meme and congrats ladies. so sorry you were dragged into this garbage for simply participating in civic engagement.



    You know, you just know, this really gets the cultist’s goat.
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