Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

mrussel1

Biden

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

JimmyV said:

Republicans got more out of the Trump presidency than they ever dreamed, but now his usefulness has run out. Yesterday's garbage. 

This.     And the smile on Mitch's face showed they are a lot smarter about this stuff than the Dems who held on to a completely unpopular family for way too long and potentially cost themselves the last 4 years in doing so. (Do any Hillary lovers think for a moment if they had just let Biden run as is the protocol 4 years ago, they never would have had to deal with Trump? - like this election was decided based on him, last election was decided based on her).

As long as the Senate holds GOP, while Trump probably did in fact help win back some House seats, they really have no more use for him, and other than here and there he won't be able to do that in the future.

So, are you folks all ready for President Cheney in 4 years?  (*I don't believe this. I just wanted to get you guys worked up about something different/old. Oh, and it's Liz not the old guy. We've had enough of those - oh, wait.)

Um, it appears that your party hung onto a completely unpopular family one cycle too long as well.  It cost you the House and now the presidency.  Your arguments are really obtuse at times.  

If you're talking about Bush - a little history lesson - the 2nd Bush was a 2 term President.   the 2nd Clinton attacked her husband's victims and LOST to TRUMP!!!! Let me say that again - LOST TO TRUMP!!!!  While the corpse of Joe Biden beat him.  Hopefully she lives a long life and thinks of that every day.  

(And then btw, his brother did NOT get the nomination when Trump ran - so, seems just right to me).

Regarding the House and Bush - that's what typically happens with a party change at President. Just like when Trump had House and Senate his first 2 years (so comment on Obama?).   That didn't happen this time. That's HIGHLY unusual.  So, try again. I love you guys giving people labels because you can't think through these things on your own.  

I'm talking about the trump family. 

so, the Republicans were supposed to nominate someone else?  Jesus. I didn't think your response was that stupid. I actually gave you too  much credit.

But, btw, the GOP winning back those seats they lost in the midterm is most likely due to Trump being on the ticket.  And  the House already favored the Dems, so how could any know what you meant by lost the House in context to Trump?

What's your comment now in that context that they did the unusual of not losing the Senate in all likelihood as typically happens in these situations?  

1. You argued that they stayed with Clinton too long.  Considering Trump will evidently lose by wider margins that Clinton,  I suggest a mirror for you. 

2. The R didn't win back all the seats they lost in the mid. If they did,  you'd have the majority.  Pretty simple.  

3. I don't know what to tell you about the senate.  They may lose it.  Good job holding the seats.  In particular Collins. The rest of the wins were in R states,  if I'm not mistaken so not a shocking outcome. Red states have red senators.  Film at 11.

OnWis97

Biden

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

JimmyV said:

Republicans got more out of the Trump presidency than they ever dreamed, but now his usefulness has run out. Yesterday's garbage. 

This.     And the smile on Mitch's face showed they are a lot smarter about this stuff than the Dems who held on to a completely unpopular family for way too long and potentially cost themselves the last 4 years in doing so. (Do any Hillary lovers think for a moment if they had just let Biden run as is the protocol 4 years ago, they never would have had to deal with Trump? - like this election was decided based on him, last election was decided based on her).

As long as the Senate holds GOP, while Trump probably did in fact help win back some House seats, they really have no more use for him, and other than here and there he won't be able to do that in the future.

So, are you folks all ready for President Cheney in 4 years?  (*I don't believe this. I just wanted to get you guys worked up about something different/old. Oh, and it's Liz not the old guy. We've had enough of those - oh, wait.)

Um, it appears that your party hung onto a completely unpopular family one cycle too long as well.  It cost you the House and now the presidency.  Your arguments are really obtuse at times.  

If you're talking about Bush - a little history lesson - the 2nd Bush was a 2 term President.   the 2nd Clinton attacked her husband's victims and LOST to TRUMP!!!! Let me say that again - LOST TO TRUMP!!!!  While the corpse of Joe Biden beat him.  Hopefully she lives a long life and thinks of that every day.  

(And then btw, his brother did NOT get the nomination when Trump ran - so, seems just right to me).

Regarding the House and Bush - that's what typically happens with a party change at President. Just like when Trump had House and Senate his first 2 years (so comment on Obama?).   That didn't happen this time. That's HIGHLY unusual.  So, try again. I love you guys giving people labels because you can't think through these things on your own.  

I'm talking about the trump family. 

so, the Republicans were supposed to nominate someone else?  Jesus. I didn't think your response was that stupid. I actually gave you too  much credit.

But, btw, the GOP winning back those seats they lost in the midterm is most likely due to Trump being on the ticket.  And  the House already favored the Dems, so how could any know what you meant by lost the House in context to Trump?

What's your comment now in that context that they did the unusual of not losing the Senate in all likelihood as typically happens in these situations?  

1. You argued that they stayed with Clinton too long.  Considering Trump will evidently lose by wider margins that Clinton,  I suggest a mirror for you. 

2. The R didn't win back all the seats they lost in the mid. If they did,  you'd have the majority.  Pretty simple.  

3. I don't know what to tell you about the senate.  They may lose it.  Good job holding the seats.  In particular Collins. The rest of the wins were in R states,  if I'm not mistaken so not a shocking outcome. Red states have red senators.  Film at 11.

I still can't believe she won. I'm more disappointed that Lindsey won, but I'm more surprised that Collins won.

brianlux

Biden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnTE1dlJCFA

mrussel1

Biden

brianlux said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnTE1dlJCFA

I miss Tom. 

This is a great duet.  And a hard song to sing.  
My favorite though is Ed and Bruce singing Hometown at Wrigley.  Beautiful. 

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnTE1dlJCFA

I miss Tom. 

This is a great duet.  And a hard song to sing.  
My favorite though is Ed and Bruce singing Hometown at Wrigley.  Beautiful. 

Should have heard me sing Given to Fly and Strutter at my first and only Karaoke, Beautiful. 

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1324483936089767936?s=20

How long till this happens?

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1324485678214860800?s=20

OnWis97

Biden

Spiritual_Chaos said:

How long till this happens?

32  minutes after you posted it.

josevolution

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

EdsonNascimento said:

JimmyV said:

Republicans got more out of the Trump presidency than they ever dreamed, but now his usefulness has run out. Yesterday's garbage. 

This.     And the smile on Mitch's face showed they are a lot smarter about this stuff than the Dems who held on to a completely unpopular family for way too long and potentially cost themselves the last 4 years in doing so. (Do any Hillary lovers think for a moment if they had just let Biden run as is the protocol 4 years ago, they never would have had to deal with Trump? - like this election was decided based on him, last election was decided based on her).

As long as the Senate holds GOP, while Trump probably did in fact help win back some House seats, they really have no more use for him, and other than here and there he won't be able to do that in the future.

So, are you folks all ready for President Cheney in 4 years?  (*I don't believe this. I just wanted to get you guys worked up about something different/old. Oh, and it's Liz not the old guy. We've had enough of those - oh, wait.)

i personally find it so funny how you always hear republicans brag about them being smarter than democrats in this situation and that situation. if biden had run in 2016, he would have lost. the only reason he's winning now is because independents are energized to get that idiot out of the white house. 

the house and senate are almost always a very close 50/50 split, so one side saying "we're so much better at this than you" is absolute nonsense. 

if republicans are so much better at it, why did obama have 8 years in the white house with complete control of all branches for a quarter of that? why is trump going to be a one term president if they are so good at it? nothing here is shocking. republicans generally keep the same seats that they always do, same with dems. some get flipped here and there, but the most of it stays pretty status quo. 

biden isn't dynamic or likeable in any special way. he's just not trump. that's why he wins. 

which concerns me for 2024, but that's a way off. i don't see kamala getting the vote out unless she somehow becomes super likable in the next 3 years. the best she can hope for is getting the moderates on both sides but she won't win over the left or the right. 

it will be nice, if biden does win, to have 4 years of calm and not some lunatic burning down his own house. 

Pete

i like him but he lost out pretty early in the primaries. you think he's good to go again in only 4 years? maybe 8 or 12 i'd say. 

No time for him to waste you never know what could happen in 8 years let alone 10-12, he needs to be kept in the political landscape so people don’t forget about him, I definitely would of voted for him ..

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

Pete is 006 from GoldenEye. 

Skip him. Go straight to AOC.

- For all americans without healthcare, Alexandria?

- No Pete, for me.

*drops Pete on a satellite dish*

static111

Biden

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Pete is 006 from GoldenEye. 

Skip him. Go straight to AOC.

- For all americans without healthcare, Alexandria?

- No Pete, for me.

*drops Pete on a satellite dish*

I feel like Yang could be a compromise candidate.  A little more progressive and more willing to try new things, but also pretty centrist for the most part

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

georgia will not finish count today.

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

EdsonNascimento said:

JimmyV said:

Republicans got more out of the Trump presidency than they ever dreamed, but now his usefulness has run out. Yesterday's garbage. 

This.     And the smile on Mitch's face showed they are a lot smarter about this stuff than the Dems who held on to a completely unpopular family for way too long and potentially cost themselves the last 4 years in doing so. (Do any Hillary lovers think for a moment if they had just let Biden run as is the protocol 4 years ago, they never would have had to deal with Trump? - like this election was decided based on him, last election was decided based on her).

As long as the Senate holds GOP, while Trump probably did in fact help win back some House seats, they really have no more use for him, and other than here and there he won't be able to do that in the future.

So, are you folks all ready for President Cheney in 4 years?  (*I don't believe this. I just wanted to get you guys worked up about something different/old. Oh, and it's Liz not the old guy. We've had enough of those - oh, wait.)

i personally find it so funny how you always hear republicans brag about them being smarter than democrats in this situation and that situation. if biden had run in 2016, he would have lost. the only reason he's winning now is because independents are energized to get that idiot out of the white house. 

the house and senate are almost always a very close 50/50 split, so one side saying "we're so much better at this than you" is absolute nonsense. 

if republicans are so much better at it, why did obama have 8 years in the white house with complete control of all branches for a quarter of that? why is trump going to be a one term president if they are so good at it? nothing here is shocking. republicans generally keep the same seats that they always do, same with dems. some get flipped here and there, but the most of it stays pretty status quo. 

biden isn't dynamic or likeable in any special way. he's just not trump. that's why he wins. 

which concerns me for 2024, but that's a way off. i don't see kamala getting the vote out unless she somehow becomes super likable in the next 3 years. the best she can hope for is getting the moderates on both sides but she won't win over the left or the right. 

it will be nice, if biden does win, to have 4 years of calm and not some lunatic burning down his own house. 

I think Biden might have won.  You might not realized just how hated Hillary was and for how long.  She lost a few key states by a small number of votes.  Biden, while not the most inspiring candidate, didn't have the history of being hated. Plus he was attached to a popular president.  That got George HW Bush a term in office.

Honestly, I think Trump did much better this time. I think there was more fear of what he could in 2016 than what we know he is now.  He's gained in most demographics.  I think Biden would have won those close states Hillary lost. The fact that Trump was a miserable, contentious, self-obsessed numbskull was offset because Hillary was Hillary.

you're right. when 2016 happened, i was shell shocked. i had literally no clue that hillary was hated. and i still can't figure out why, if everyone knew she was universally hated, the dem voters put her up. i only started hearing about this "worst candidate ever" after she lost and everyone was a monday morning quarterback. 

if she was so hated, and everyone knew, why did everyone think it was a foregone conclusion she'd win?

I have no idea, aside from "Trump's just such an idiot." I was nervous from day 1 about her and the hate factor.  I thought it was a terrible move by the party to push her through.*  My point stands; we'll never know, but I think Trump's narrow margin flips on the streetlight of Obama's coattails and not being Hillary. We'll never know.

I also have no idea how sarcastic you're being, being from Canada and all. She was hated from day 1 of Bill becoming a household name. I'm not exactly sure why (partly that people wanted the first lady to be June Cleaver). Eventually, she provided reasons as she became Sec. of State.  Conservatives had an irrational hatred as early as 1991, though, and it bled into moderates and apolitical folks. 

So, what if Biden loses to Trump in 2016 and Hillary runs now.  Where would we be?  I think we'd be waiting on five states to finish up so we could see how big Trump's margin is. 

*To whatever degree the party did that.  Some people think it was rigged, others don't.

no sarcasm. i legitimately had no clue she was hated until after the election and everyone who said she was a shoe in all of a sudden were "well duh, you put up the most hated/flawed candidate in the history of elections, what did you think would happen?". 

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Pete is 006 from GoldenEye. 

Skip him. Go straight to AOC.

- For all americans without healthcare, Alexandria?

- No Pete, for me.

*drops Pete on a satellite dish*

that's sure fire way to make the country 80% red in a heartbeat. 

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

How can people survive living in this farce. It's "parody from the 80s"-stupid. How can people vote republican...

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1324492191067181056?s=20

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

This must be what people in the 40s experienced following the fall of the third reich on twitter. 

https://twitter.com/ErickFernandez/status/1324495709224185856?s=20

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1324496308468678657?s=20

gimmesometruth27

Biden

remember when deez nuts ran? they got more votes than kanye.

josevolution

gimmesometruth27 said:

remember when deez nuts ran? they got more votes than kanye.

Best name for a rapper ever! 

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

Trump is on

"illegal votes"