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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,270
    Biden
    Lol.  Teamsters President on Trump's stage complimenting his running mate.  

    Ha, ha, ha. ha.....  How bad does a Democrat have to be for that to happen for the first time ever?
    As bad as tRump's former VP not supporting him? and his SecDef? and his SecState and multiple former Chiefs of Staff?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    Biden
    Lol.  Teamsters President on Trump's stage complimenting his running mate.  

    Ha, ha, ha. ha.....  How bad does a Democrat have to be for that to happen for the first time ever?
    And white collar leaders and the professional class support Democrats now.  The political landscape has changed.  Funny that now you like unions and not the job creators.  
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    Biden
    Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,144
    MayDay10 said:
    Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.
    Well, at least your boss's taxes will go down so they have more money to give you a raise, right? (Sarcasm)
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,138
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.
    I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.
    I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

    I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

    Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Both sides.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.
    I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

    I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

    Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?
    because they are not very smart?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,270
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.
    I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

    I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

    Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?
    slugs for salt...

    Why do union members support the GOP? Makes no fucking sense.

    The lower class has completely bought in to the "trickle down" bullshit that has been proven wrong for decades
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,138
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.
    I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

    I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

    Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:


    Updated 1105am
    Yeah I mentioned this in another thread. 538's model accounts for other things outside of just polling. Trump pulled ahead last week and Biden has since retaken the advantage. 
    I saw a lot of people saying that the failed assassination attempt was going to cement the win for tRump. I don't think so. He's still a piece of shit and Vance is just going to add to the smell.
    it isn't going to seal trump's win. the only people supporting him are maga republicans and people that dislike dems. it is not like regular people are going to throw him a sympathy vote after everything he has said and done the last 9 years.
    Now his supporters will super-duper vote for him.  You can't stop that momentum.  Word is, several of them will be putting flags on boats.  That's usually good for 5% improvement at the state level.  Unstoppable.  
    Maga boaters with maga flags have their votes counted 100x, dontcha know? (joking)

    I am very much sure that people who will end up voting for Joe Biden are telling pollsters that they won't to send a message, whether it be about Gaza or old age or something else. Now, the question is, why aren't they being listened to?
    I was thinking about this silent voter phenomenon thing recently. There used to be silent Trump supporters 4 and 8 years ago. I wonder if the reverse might be true, to an extent, this time around...
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:


    Updated 1105am
    Yeah I mentioned this in another thread. 538's model accounts for other things outside of just polling. Trump pulled ahead last week and Biden has since retaken the advantage. 
    I saw a lot of people saying that the failed assassination attempt was going to cement the win for tRump. I don't think so. He's still a piece of shit and Vance is just going to add to the smell.
    it isn't going to seal trump's win. the only people supporting him are maga republicans and people that dislike dems. it is not like regular people are going to throw him a sympathy vote after everything he has said and done the last 9 years.
    Now his supporters will super-duper vote for him.  You can't stop that momentum.  Word is, several of them will be putting flags on boats.  That's usually good for 5% improvement at the state level.  Unstoppable.  
    Maga boaters with maga flags have their votes counted 100x, dontcha know? (joking)

    I am very much sure that people who will end up voting for Joe Biden are telling pollsters that they won't to send a message, whether it be about Gaza or old age or something else. Now, the question is, why aren't they being listened to?
    I was thinking about this silent voter phenomenon thing recently. There used to be silent Trump supporters 4 and 8 years ago. I wonder if the reverse might be true, to an extent, this time around...
    I believe this is definitely a thing.  Over the past 8 years, I have grown very reluctant to show my political preferences to anybody.  

    It seems like people who like Trump increasingly flaunt it and seem very eager just to work Trump into daily conversation
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    MayDay10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.
    I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

    I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

    Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?
    Because trump hates all the right people. It’s that simple. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    mrussel1 said:


    Updated 1105am
    Yeah I mentioned this in another thread. 538's model accounts for other things outside of just polling. Trump pulled ahead last week and Biden has since retaken the advantage. 
    I saw a lot of people saying that the failed assassination attempt was going to cement the win for tRump. I don't think so. He's still a piece of shit and Vance is just going to add to the smell.
    it isn't going to seal trump's win. the only people supporting him are maga republicans and people that dislike dems. it is not like regular people are going to throw him a sympathy vote after everything he has said and done the last 9 years.
    Now his supporters will super-duper vote for him.  You can't stop that momentum.  Word is, several of them will be putting flags on boats.  That's usually good for 5% improvement at the state level.  Unstoppable.  
    Maga boaters with maga flags have their votes counted 100x, dontcha know? (joking)

    I am very much sure that people who will end up voting for Joe Biden are telling pollsters that they won't to send a message, whether it be about Gaza or old age or something else. Now, the question is, why aren't they being listened to?
    I was thinking about this silent voter phenomenon thing recently. There used to be silent Trump supporters 4 and 8 years ago. I wonder if the reverse might be true, to an extent, this time around...
    I believe this is definitely a thing.  Over the past 8 years, I have grown very reluctant to show my political preferences to anybody.  

    It seems like people who like Trump increasingly flaunt it and seem very eager just to work Trump into daily conversation
    Yeah me too. Purely anecdotal, obviously, but I would not be surprised if this is the case more broadly. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    mrussel1 said:


    Updated 1105am
    Yeah I mentioned this in another thread. 538's model accounts for other things outside of just polling. Trump pulled ahead last week and Biden has since retaken the advantage. 
    I saw a lot of people saying that the failed assassination attempt was going to cement the win for tRump. I don't think so. He's still a piece of shit and Vance is just going to add to the smell.
    it isn't going to seal trump's win. the only people supporting him are maga republicans and people that dislike dems. it is not like regular people are going to throw him a sympathy vote after everything he has said and done the last 9 years.
    Now his supporters will super-duper vote for him.  You can't stop that momentum.  Word is, several of them will be putting flags on boats.  That's usually good for 5% improvement at the state level.  Unstoppable.  
    Maga boaters with maga flags have their votes counted 100x, dontcha know? (joking)

    I am very much sure that people who will end up voting for Joe Biden are telling pollsters that they won't to send a message, whether it be about Gaza or old age or something else. Now, the question is, why aren't they being listened to?
    I was thinking about this silent voter phenomenon thing recently. There used to be silent Trump supporters 4 and 8 years ago. I wonder if the reverse might be true, to an extent, this time around...
    I believe this is definitely a thing.  Over the past 8 years, I have grown very reluctant to show my political preferences to anybody.  

    It seems like people who like Trump increasingly flaunt it and seem very eager just to work Trump into daily conversation
    because they are in a cult and are very proud of it. remember when w bush was in office? republicans back then never tried to work w into regular day to day conversation. maga does it all the time with trump.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,600
    Biden
    In 2020 the Trumpers were too busy out catching COVID to answer the phone for pollsters, and now NYT says they are eager to answer the phone and Democrats won't respond. Which says there is a lot of GOTV to do.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,972
    Biden
    shecky said:

    is he wearing a small my pillow on his ear?

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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    I'm sitting this one out
    I’m starting to think kennedy is probably better off without the secret service protection biden continues to deny him. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520
    edited July 17
    I'm sitting this one out
    Kat said:
    Two threads are now in timeout. Do not start new ones. Take some time to think and let any anger ease. President Biden calls for unity and that's an important thing for our country...not easy, but vital.  Talking about each other will result in bannings.
    To balance up using Joe Bidens unique philosophy of "unity" in moderating messaging a tad,

    here is the most blatant and dishonest dreck ever from this great uniter:

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1813397250355421209 

    Look here folks. What is the real reason he wants to stay four more years as President?

    *Joe Biden-lowering my voice and whispering* It has nothing to do with unity


    He sounds pretty sharp in the clip though. I give him that

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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    So. No one has questions as to "how" the gunman was able to get up on that roof?
    or
    How there were eyewitnesses that saw the gunman go up there and told authorities about him?

    Incompetence at its finest!

    How easy is it to get at our leaders?  The world is watching....
    Strong argument for roof control.

    Unfortunately, our Constitution protects the right to climb ladders and provides unfettered access to roofs.
    ohgoddammit

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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,600
    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    So. No one has questions as to "how" the gunman was able to get up on that roof?
    or
    How there were eyewitnesses that saw the gunman go up there and told authorities about him?

    Incompetence at its finest!

    How easy is it to get at our leaders?  The world is watching....
    Strong argument for roof control.

    Unfortunately, our Constitution protects the right to climb ladders and provides unfettered access to roofs.
    ohgoddammit

    https://www.theonion.com/congress-bans-roofs-1851592883
    It's gotta be hard for The Onion to keep beyond reality. That's why they stopped making VEEP.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
    Biden
    FiveBelow said:
    I’m starting to think kennedy is probably better off without the secret service protection biden continues to deny him. 
    biden ordered a detail

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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    I'm sitting this one out
    mickeyrat said:
    FiveBelow said:
    I’m starting to think kennedy is probably better off without the secret service protection biden continues to deny him. 
    biden ordered a detail

    Sounds like the eleventh hour has struck again.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    I wonder why Mike Pence didn’t go to the RNC. 
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,600
    Biden
    I wonder why Mike Pence didn’t go to the RNC. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    edited July 17
    Biden
    I wonder why Mike Pence didn’t go to the RNC. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSZca1Q9IWA
    Wait, so Mike Pence's sister puts out?  Awesome.  

    Or...maybe she doesn't and that's why he didn't go.  There would be no saving him.  
  • sheckyshecky Posts: 1,824

    Trump would-be assassin climbed air conditioning unit to access shooting perch: report

    Motivations for the near-fatal shooting of former President Trump have not been disclosed

    Published July 17, 2024 10:02am EDT

    The Pennsylvania man who tried to assassinate former President Trump on Saturday accessed his roof firing perch by clambering up an air conditioning unit, according to a report.

    Thomas Crooks, 20, repeatedly discharged an AR rifle – believed to belong to his father – during a Saturday rally in Butler, striking Trump in the ear and killing a rally attendee, ABC News reported.

    Officials said the troubled loner purchased a ladder from a local Home Depot prior to the shooting but did not use it to scale the building, positioned roughly 150 yards from where Trump spoke.

    Instead, he used an air conditioning unit adjacent to the building as a foothold and climbed on top of the structure.

    Critics have questioned how Crooks was able to position himself so close to Trump despite the presence of local police and Secret Service agents.


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    shecky said:

    Trump would-be assassin climbed air conditioning unit to access shooting perch: report

    Motivations for the near-fatal shooting of former President Trump have not been disclosed

    Published July 17, 2024 10:02am EDT

    The Pennsylvania man who tried to assassinate former President Trump on Saturday accessed his roof firing perch by clambering up an air conditioning unit, according to a report.

    Thomas Crooks, 20, repeatedly discharged an AR rifle – believed to belong to his father – during a Saturday rally in Butler, striking Trump in the ear and killing a rally attendee, ABC News reported.

    Officials said the troubled loner purchased a ladder from a local Home Depot prior to the shooting but did not use it to scale the building, positioned roughly 150 yards from where Trump spoke.

    Instead, he used an air conditioning unit adjacent to the building as a foothold and climbed on top of the structure.

    Critics have questioned how Crooks was able to position himself so close to Trump despite the presence of local police and Secret Service agents.


    Time to ban climbable air conditioning units. Along with gas stoves.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,522
    shecky said:

    Trump would-be assassin climbed air conditioning unit to access shooting perch: report

    Motivations for the near-fatal shooting of former President Trump have not been disclosed

    Published July 17, 2024 10:02am EDT

    The Pennsylvania man who tried to assassinate former President Trump on Saturday accessed his roof firing perch by clambering up an air conditioning unit, according to a report.

    Thomas Crooks, 20, repeatedly discharged an AR rifle – believed to belong to his father – during a Saturday rally in Butler, striking Trump in the ear and killing a rally attendee, ABC News reported.

    Officials said the troubled loner purchased a ladder from a local Home Depot prior to the shooting but did not use it to scale the building, positioned roughly 150 yards from where Trump spoke.

    Instead, he used an air conditioning unit adjacent to the building as a foothold and climbed on top of the structure.

    Critics have questioned how Crooks was able to position himself so close to Trump despite the presence of local police and Secret Service agents.


    Time to ban climbable air conditioning units. Along with gas stoves.
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