This is, and will remain, one of the most iconic photographs of the 21st century. Our children's children will know it.
Great as long as those children know what a piece of 💩 human he really was/is! Also should be added that he is the same person that fanned the flames of violence for 8 years!
This is, and will remain, one of the most iconic photographs of the 21st century. Our children's children will know it.
Great as long as those children know what a piece of 💩 human he really was/is! Also should be added that he is the same person that fanned the flames of violence for 8 years!
This is, and will remain, one of the most iconic photographs of the 21st century. Our children's children will know it.
Great as long as those children know what a piece of 💩 human he really was/is! Also should be added that he is the same person that fanned the flames of violence for 8 years!
The media refuses to retract their assertion that the donor was Saturday's killer.
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The media refuses to retract their assertion that the donor was Saturday's killer.
Yeah they really want that dem/antifa connection. The first online post I saw about the shooter said he was a member of antifa and had a picture of a hispanic looking guy....total bullshit of course.
Some douche on my FB feed immediately posted about how all democrats were complacent in the assassination attempt and went on a tirade about how dems are evil, etc. Someone pointed out that the shooter was a registered republican and the guy blew it off. You can bet that if he were a registered dem it would be quite different.
Even the kids school acquaintances were saying he was conservative.
It does make me wonder if this relates to tRump's recent comments about Project 25? Maybe tRump wasn't right wing enough for this guy?
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Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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The media refuses to retract their assertion that the donor was Saturday's killer.
Yeah they really want that GOP connection.
Some douche on my FB feed immediately posted about how all democrats were complacent in the assassination attempt and went on a tirade about how dems are evil, etc. Someone pointed out that the shooter was a registered republican and the guy blew it off. You can bet that if he were a registered dem it would be quite different.
Even the kids school acquaintances were saying he was conservative.
It does make me wonder if this relates to tRump's recent comments about Project 25? Maybe tRump wasn't right wing enough for this guy?
I don’t know the truth yet about all of it but for whatever reason Dad is refusing to talk without a lawyer present. I guess you never know now if you’re going to jail if your kid pulls crap like this, no matter what their age is because it was dad’s gun.
The media refuses to retract their assertion that the donor was Saturday's killer.
Yeah they really want that GOP connection.
Some douche on my FB feed immediately posted about how all democrats were complacent in the assassination attempt and went on a tirade about how dems are evil, etc. Someone pointed out that the shooter was a registered republican and the guy blew it off. You can bet that if he were a registered dem it would be quite different.
Even the kids school acquaintances were saying he was conservative.
It does make me wonder if this relates to tRump's recent comments about Project 25? Maybe tRump wasn't right wing enough for this guy?
I don’t know the truth yet about all of it but for whatever reason Dad is refusing to talk without a lawyer present. I guess you never know now if you’re going to jail if your kid pulls crap like this, no matter what their age is because it was dad’s gun.
yeah it sounds bad but that's good advice/procedure.
I've heard it was Dad's gun and that is how they identified the kid but not sure how accurate that is.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
The media refuses to retract their assertion that the donor was Saturday's killer.
Yeah they really want that GOP connection.
Some douche on my FB feed immediately posted about how all democrats were complacent in the assassination attempt and went on a tirade about how dems are evil, etc. Someone pointed out that the shooter was a registered republican and the guy blew it off. You can bet that if he were a registered dem it would be quite different.
Even the kids school acquaintances were saying he was conservative.
It does make me wonder if this relates to tRump's recent comments about Project 25? Maybe tRump wasn't right wing enough for this guy?
I don’t know the truth yet about all of it but for whatever reason Dad is refusing to talk without a lawyer present. I guess you never know now if you’re going to jail if your kid pulls crap like this, no matter what their age is because it was dad’s gun.
That doesn’t surprise me. The whole country is looking at home waiting for some answers, want to make sure you don’t dig yourself in a hole.
This is, and will remain, one of the most iconic photographs of the 21st century. Our children's children will know it.
This image is iconic as well and should also be remembered for similar reasons:
I liken Trump's version to be more like this.
Off subject, but if you’re still a KC fan (or still live there) you’re getting two really good left hand pitchers. My husband coached David Shields. Here he is with my grandson.
This is, and will remain, one of the most iconic photographs of the 21st century. Our children's children will know it.
This image is iconic as well and should also be remembered for similar reasons:
I liken Trump's version to be more like this.
Off subject, but if you’re still a KC fan (or still live there) you’re getting two really good left hand pitchers. My husband coached David Shields. Here he is with my grandson.
And that little one in your avatar is adorable 🥰
Very much a Royals fan. I'm not sure if Caglianone will actually get a shot at pitching in the majors, but Shields projects to gain velo as he develops.
I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
This is, and will remain, one of the most iconic photographs of the 21st century. Our children's children will know it.
This image is iconic as well and should also be remembered for similar reasons:
I liken Trump's version to be more like this.
Off subject, but if you’re still a KC fan (or still live there) you’re getting two really good left hand pitchers. My husband coached David Shields. Here he is with my grandson.
And that little one in your avatar is adorable 🥰
Very much a Royals fan. I'm not sure if Caglianone will actually get a shot at pitching in the majors, but Shields projects to gain velo as he develops.
He’s a great kid. He skipped a grade to get to the draft sooner and had no interest in college. We’re so happy for him!
The Secret Service has ONE job. Protect the person they have been assigned. It doesn't matter what party or the politics. When there is a live shooter nearby, you push the person to the ground and cover his body to protect him....right? That was what I meant. They did not do their job. There could have been multiple shooters. No one knew at that time.
This is, and will remain, one of the most iconic photographs of the 21st century. Our children's children will know it.
This image is iconic as well and should also be remembered for similar reasons:
I liken Trump's version to be more like this.
Ridiculous. Anyone trying to compare Trump to Hitler needs to have their head examined. Has anyone here ever played sports or engaged in competition before? Never did a fist pump or raised your arm in exhilaration after a big moment? You better compare me and most people I know to Hitler as well then.
The Secret Service has ONE job. Protect the person they have been assigned. It doesn't matter what party or the politics. When there is a live shooter nearby, you push the person to the ground and cover his body to protect him....right? That was what I meant. They did not do their job. There could have been multiple shooters. No one knew at that time.
geez.
Yup. A colleague of mine described watching (out of curiosity) a KKK march in Pennsyltucky and they were protected better than what the Secret Service was doing on Saturday.
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This is, and will remain, one of the most iconic photographs of the 21st century. Our children's children will know it.
This image is iconic as well and should also be remembered for similar reasons:
I liken Trump's version to be more like this.
Ridiculous. Anyone trying to compare Trump to Hitler needs to have their head examined. Has anyone here ever played sports or engaged in competition before? Never did a fist pump or raised your arm in exhilaration after a big moment? You better compare me and most people I know to Hitler as well then.
Trump-Endorsed Candidate JD Vance Once Said Trump Might Be ‘America’s Hitler’
In a private Facebook message from 2016, Ohio Senate candidate JD Vance said Trump is either a “cynical asshole” or “America’s Hitler.”
U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE JD VANCE SPEAKS WITH PROSPECTIVE VOTERS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL ON APRIL 11, 2022 IN TROY, OHIO. (PHOTO BY GAELEN MORSE / GETTY IMAGES)
Former President Donald Trump’s newest Senate endorsee was even less of a Trump fan than he’d publicly let on.
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Back in 2016, during his #NeverTrump phase, Ohio Senate candidate and Hillbilly Elegy author JD Vance said Trump was either a “cynical asshole” or “America’s Hitler” in a private message to an old law school classmate.
It’s no secret that Vance, who won the coveted Trump endorsement last weekend, wasn’t a Trump fan back then—he publicly mocked Trump all year and refused to vote for him in the 2016 general election, and publicly called him “noxious,” “reprehensible,” and an “idiot” in October 2016.
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But Vance went even further rhetorically in a private Facebook message he sent to Josh McLaurin, Vance’s old Yale Law School roommate, when McLaurin reached out to ask for his take on the GOP primary in February 2016.
“I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum's piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect.”
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Vance then said Trump was either like disgraced former President Richard Nixon—or Nazi leader Adolph Hitler.
“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?” Vance concludes, before asking McLaurin how his work was going.
OHIO SENATE CANDIDATE AND HILLBILLY ELEGY AUTHOR JD VANCE SAID TRUMP WAS EITHER A “CYNICAL ASSHOLE” OR “AMERICA’S HITLER” IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO AN OLD LAW SCHOOL CLASSMATE. (SCREENSHOTS FROM JOSH MCLAURIN)
Vance’s comments came a few days after Florida Sen. Marco Rubio fell apart during a 2016 New Hampshire presidential debate, all but ensuring Trump would win the state’s primary and make himself the prohibitive favorite to win the GOP nomination.
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McLaurin, now a Democratic state representative in Georgia, tweeted a screenshot of part of that comment on Monday, and shared the full message with VICE News along with evidence that they were roommates and proof the message was legitimately from Vance. VICE News independently verified that Vance and McLaurin are friends on Facebook.
“I can’t believe how cynical he has become. He’s a smart guy who knows what he’s doing,” McLaurin told VICE News. “The public deserves to know also, so we can stop picking leaders who have so much disdain for the people they represent.”
Since sending those messages, Vance has pulled a complete flip-flop on Trump and apologized time and again for his past remarks.
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“Like a lot of people, I criticized Trump back in 2016,” Vance said last summer. “And I ask folks not to judge me based on what I said in 2016, because I’ve been very open that I did say those critical things and I regret them, and I regret being wrong about the guy. I think he was a good president, I think he made a lot of good decisions for people, and I think he took a lot of flak.”
Vance’s campaign rolled its eyes at the “old news.”
“It’s laughable that the media treats JD not liking Trump 6 years ago as some sort of breaking news, when they’ve already covered it to death since this race began. Clearly, President Trump trusts that JD is a genuine convert, as out of all the Republican candidates running, he endorsed JD and concluded that he is the strongest America First conservative in the race,” Vance Campaign Manager Jordan Wiggins said in a statement to VICE News. “Despite the leftwing media’s obsession with this old news, JD is proud to have President Trump’s support and will stand with him to fight back against the radical left and the establishment RINOs as Ohio’s next Senator.”
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Trump even acknowledged Vance’s past criticism of him when he endorsed Vance last Friday.
“Like some others, JD Vance may have said some not so great things about me in the past, but he gets it now, and I have seen that in spades. He is our best chance for victory in what could be a very tough race,” he said.
A spokesman for Trump didn’t respond to requests for comment on this message.
The Secret Service has ONE job. Protect the person they have been assigned. It doesn't matter what party or the politics. When there is a live shooter nearby, you push the person to the ground and cover his body to protect him....right? That was what I meant. They did not do their job. There could have been multiple shooters. No one knew at that time.
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Our children's children will know it.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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Some douche on my FB feed immediately posted about how all democrats were complacent in the assassination attempt and went on a tirade about how dems are evil, etc. Someone pointed out that the shooter was a registered republican and the guy blew it off. You can bet that if he were a registered dem it would be quite different.
Even the kids school acquaintances were saying he was conservative.
It does make me wonder if this relates to tRump's recent comments about Project 25? Maybe tRump wasn't right wing enough for this guy?
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I've heard it was Dad's gun and that is how they identified the kid but not sure how accurate that is.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
The Secret Service has ONE job. Protect the person they have been assigned. It doesn't matter what party or the politics. When there is a live shooter nearby, you push the person to the ground and cover his body to protect him....right? That was what I meant. They did not do their job. There could have been multiple shooters. No one knew at that time.
geez.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvn4b8/jd-vance-trump-messages
Trump-Endorsed Candidate JD Vance Once Said Trump Might Be ‘America’s Hitler’
Back in 2016, during his #NeverTrump phase, Ohio Senate candidate and Hillbilly Elegy author JD Vance said Trump was either a “cynical asshole” or “America’s Hitler” in a private message to an old law school classmate.
It’s no secret that Vance, who won the coveted Trump endorsement last weekend, wasn’t a Trump fan back then—he publicly mocked Trump all year and refused to vote for him in the 2016 general election, and publicly called him “noxious,” “reprehensible,” and an “idiot” in October 2016.
But Vance went even further rhetorically in a private Facebook message he sent to Josh McLaurin, Vance’s old Yale Law School roommate, when McLaurin reached out to ask for his take on the GOP primary in February 2016.
“I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum's piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect.”
Vance then said Trump was either like disgraced former President Richard Nixon—or Nazi leader Adolph Hitler.
“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?” Vance concludes, before asking McLaurin how his work was going.
OHIO SENATE CANDIDATE AND HILLBILLY ELEGY AUTHOR JD VANCE SAID TRUMP WAS EITHER A “CYNICAL ASSHOLE” OR “AMERICA’S HITLER” IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO AN OLD LAW SCHOOL CLASSMATE. (SCREENSHOTS FROM JOSH MCLAURIN)
Vance’s comments came a few days after Florida Sen. Marco Rubio fell apart during a 2016 New Hampshire presidential debate, all but ensuring Trump would win the state’s primary and make himself the prohibitive favorite to win the GOP nomination.
McLaurin, now a Democratic state representative in Georgia, tweeted a screenshot of part of that comment on Monday, and shared the full message with VICE News along with evidence that they were roommates and proof the message was legitimately from Vance. VICE News independently verified that Vance and McLaurin are friends on Facebook.
“I can’t believe how cynical he has become. He’s a smart guy who knows what he’s doing,” McLaurin told VICE News. “The public deserves to know also, so we can stop picking leaders who have so much disdain for the people they represent.”
Since sending those messages, Vance has pulled a complete flip-flop on Trump and apologized time and again for his past remarks.
“Like a lot of people, I criticized Trump back in 2016,” Vance said last summer. “And I ask folks not to judge me based on what I said in 2016, because I’ve been very open that I did say those critical things and I regret them, and I regret being wrong about the guy. I think he was a good president, I think he made a lot of good decisions for people, and I think he took a lot of flak.”
Vance’s campaign rolled its eyes at the “old news.”
“It’s laughable that the media treats JD not liking Trump 6 years ago as some sort of breaking news, when they’ve already covered it to death since this race began. Clearly, President Trump trusts that JD is a genuine convert, as out of all the Republican candidates running, he endorsed JD and concluded that he is the strongest America First conservative in the race,” Vance Campaign Manager Jordan Wiggins said in a statement to VICE News. “Despite the leftwing media’s obsession with this old news, JD is proud to have President Trump’s support and will stand with him to fight back against the radical left and the establishment RINOs as Ohio’s next Senator.”
Trump even acknowledged Vance’s past criticism of him when he endorsed Vance last Friday.
“Like some others, JD Vance may have said some not so great things about me in the past, but he gets it now, and I have seen that in spades. He is our best chance for victory in what could be a very tough race,” he said.
A spokesman for Trump didn’t respond to requests for comment on this message.