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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,268
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,268
    Biden

    The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator

    Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.

    A photomontage illustration of Donald Trump
    Illustration by The Atlantic. Sources: Anna Moneymaker / Getty; Rebecca Droke / AFP / Getty.
    July 14, 2024, 10:37 AM ET

    When a madman hammered nearly to death the husband of then–House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump jeered and mocked. One of Trump’s sons and other close Trump supporters avidly promoted false claims that Paul Pelosi had somehow brought the onslaught upon himself through a sexual misadventure.

    After authorities apprehended a right-wing-extremist plot to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Trump belittled the threat at a rally. He disparaged Whitmer as a political enemy. His supporters chanted “Lock her up.” Trump laughed and replied, “Lock them all up.”

    Fascism feasts on violence. In the years since his own supporters attacked the Capitol to overturn the 2020 election—many of them threatening harm to Speaker Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence—Trump has championed the invaders, would-be kidnappers, and would-be murderers as martyrs and hostages. He has vowed to pardon them if returned to office. His own staffers have testified to the glee with which Trump watched the mayhem on television.

    Now the bloodshed that Trump has done so much to incite against others has touched him as well. The attempted murder of Trump—and the killing of a person nearby—is a horror and an outrage. More will be learned about the man who committed this appalling act, and who was killed by the Secret Service. Whatever his mania or motive, the only important thing about him is the law-enforcement mistake that allowed him to bring a deadly weapon so close to a campaign event and gain a sight line of the presidential candidate. His name should otherwise be erased and forgotten.


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  • bootlegbootleg Posts: 705
    Does his political affiliation even matter?  I think it’s safe to say he wasn’t a fan of Trump based on his actions.  The problem here is that MAGA is so deeply ingrained in conspiracy theories they are treating this like it’s a political assignation attempt ordered by the Democrats as a whole and not the deranged actions of an individual.  That’s where things are going to become dangerous.
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    Local news who spoke with some that graduated with him said he was bullied horrifically everyday.  Now that’s the bethel park I know and love.  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,337
    mickeyrat said:
    And when you point out the obvious, crickets from the repubs and POOTWH supporters. CRICKETS.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,337
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    shecky said:

    Trumps more composed after an assassination attempt then Joey with a full team of handlers and no pressure. America sees this to be truth. 
    trump is still gonna lose the election. he is going to continue to fan the flames after this, and it is going to turn more people off from him and the gop. 
    Well that sure is a interesting take, I don’t think most of the Orange man bad  CULT members would agree w/ you looking at social media…
    Here’s my take, TRUMP just got a whole hell of a lot  Stronger is so many ways…
    This weeks RNC is going to be a spectacle that will unite the Republican Party like never before, and the DNC is going to be one of the biggest Shitshow on earth!! Buckle up Shitcago, many Trump Deranged Syndromes will be heading your way…I say stand down and let them do what they always do in the name of JUSTICE…no sense getting any Cops hurt over Property and TDS…
    Awww, no mahalo? Gun violence got you down?
    Nope…But it’s obvious you are. If you take a shot at the Big Dog, you must not miss…Nice try
    Mahalo 



    Linda, you really need to have your posting privileges here revoked , at least in AMT. And now taunting the left with that absurd cartoon?

    good thing the shooter missed, because “sleepy Joe” would definitely have lost the election. That was another taunt from the right.

    You only come here to Express a form of violence by attacking people. You do not come here to discuss. 

    Your side wants violence. Your side constantly uses violent imagery and words to taunt the left. Your side overlooked the violence on January 6. Your side wants sophisticated killing machines easily accessible to 20 year old men. 

    The left does not want to live in a country like this with such sophisticated killing machines easily accessible to young men, and politicians using the internet to organize an attack on congress and the VP. Your side and it’s extreme supreme court is making sophisticated, killing machines easily accessible. 

    This is the country you wanted. Enjoy it
    Me taunting…You are joking right?? ….All I have ever gotten on here is taunts and shots by the Mob at my expense  since I lean more Rightious… Nice try, I play by the rules most of the time unlike many of  y’all.   Now stop making this personal and don’t respond when triggered. GOD BLESS THE USA!!! OUR country just got WOKE in a way that was needed.  MAHALO
    You do know the gunman was a republican, right?  

    And please, your “shots” aren’t righteous.  
    He was registered republican but had financially supported a democratic group. So I don’t think we really know what his political stance was yet.
    From what I read, he gave $15 to Act Blue when he was 17 years old. 
    Yes. And this is straight from their website:

    “ we’ve built a powerful online fundraising platform for Democratic candidates up and down the ballot, progressive organizations, and nonprofits. ”
    “ Our platform is available to Democratic candidates and committees, progressive organizations, and nonprofits that share our values”

    Not saying any of that is bad. But does that sound like something a republican would donate to? So, to me, it’s unclear what his political views and motives are. Simply being registered republican doesn’t mean much.

    But not donating to a dem supporting organization does? Care to retract your careless accusation? 
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    One local police officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder, and Crooks quickly took a shot toward Trump, and that's when Secret Service snipers shot him.

    Former fire chief who died at Trump rally used his body to shield family from gunfire.

    Can we stop calling the police "First Responders" yet?  More like glorified Waste Collectors. 


  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    edited July 15


    These people are fucking ghouls. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,482
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    shecky said:

    Trumps more composed after an assassination attempt then Joey with a full team of handlers and no pressure. America sees this to be truth. 
    trump is still gonna lose the election. he is going to continue to fan the flames after this, and it is going to turn more people off from him and the gop. 
    Well that sure is a interesting take, I don’t think most of the Orange man bad  CULT members would agree w/ you looking at social media…
    Here’s my take, TRUMP just got a whole hell of a lot  Stronger is so many ways…
    This weeks RNC is going to be a spectacle that will unite the Republican Party like never before, and the DNC is going to be one of the biggest Shitshow on earth!! Buckle up Shitcago, many Trump Deranged Syndromes will be heading your way…I say stand down and let them do what they always do in the name of JUSTICE…no sense getting any Cops hurt over Property and TDS…
    Awww, no mahalo? Gun violence got you down?
    Nope…But it’s obvious you are. If you take a shot at the Big Dog, you must not miss…Nice try
    Mahalo 



    Linda, you really need to have your posting privileges here revoked , at least in AMT. And now taunting the left with that absurd cartoon?

    good thing the shooter missed, because “sleepy Joe” would definitely have lost the election. That was another taunt from the right.

    You only come here to Express a form of violence by attacking people. You do not come here to discuss. 

    Your side wants violence. Your side constantly uses violent imagery and words to taunt the left. Your side overlooked the violence on January 6. Your side wants sophisticated killing machines easily accessible to 20 year old men. 

    The left does not want to live in a country like this with such sophisticated killing machines easily accessible to young men, and politicians using the internet to organize an attack on congress and the VP. Your side and it’s extreme supreme court is making sophisticated, killing machines easily accessible. 

    This is the country you wanted. Enjoy it
    Me taunting…You are joking right?? ….All I have ever gotten on here is taunts and shots by the Mob at my expense  since I lean more Rightious… Nice try, I play by the rules most of the time unlike many of  y’all.   Now stop making this personal and don’t respond when triggered. GOD BLESS THE USA!!! OUR country just got WOKE in a way that was needed.  MAHALO
    You do know the gunman was a republican, right?  

    And please, your “shots” aren’t righteous.  
    He was registered republican but had financially supported a democratic group. So I don’t think we really know what his political stance was yet.
    From what I read, he gave $15 to Act Blue when he was 17 years old. 
    Yes. And this is straight from their website:

    “ we’ve built a powerful online fundraising platform for Democratic candidates up and down the ballot, progressive organizations, and nonprofits. ”
    “ Our platform is available to Democratic candidates and committees, progressive organizations, and nonprofits that share our values”

    Not saying any of that is bad. But does that sound like something a republican would donate to? So, to me, it’s unclear what his political views and motives are. Simply being registered republican doesn’t mean much.

    But not donating to a dem supporting organization does? Care to retract your careless accusation? 
    Retract what? I said a few times we (at least I) don’t know anything yet as it pertains to political views and motives.  What’s to retract? You want me to retract that I don’t know?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,268
    Biden
    guess sarcasm is lost on some
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,337
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    shecky said:

    Trumps more composed after an assassination attempt then Joey with a full team of handlers and no pressure. America sees this to be truth. 
    trump is still gonna lose the election. he is going to continue to fan the flames after this, and it is going to turn more people off from him and the gop. 
    Well that sure is a interesting take, I don’t think most of the Orange man bad  CULT members would agree w/ you looking at social media…
    Here’s my take, TRUMP just got a whole hell of a lot  Stronger is so many ways…
    This weeks RNC is going to be a spectacle that will unite the Republican Party like never before, and the DNC is going to be one of the biggest Shitshow on earth!! Buckle up Shitcago, many Trump Deranged Syndromes will be heading your way…I say stand down and let them do what they always do in the name of JUSTICE…no sense getting any Cops hurt over Property and TDS…
    Awww, no mahalo? Gun violence got you down?
    Nope…But it’s obvious you are. If you take a shot at the Big Dog, you must not miss…Nice try
    Mahalo 



    Linda, you really need to have your posting privileges here revoked , at least in AMT. And now taunting the left with that absurd cartoon?

    good thing the shooter missed, because “sleepy Joe” would definitely have lost the election. That was another taunt from the right.

    You only come here to Express a form of violence by attacking people. You do not come here to discuss. 

    Your side wants violence. Your side constantly uses violent imagery and words to taunt the left. Your side overlooked the violence on January 6. Your side wants sophisticated killing machines easily accessible to 20 year old men. 

    The left does not want to live in a country like this with such sophisticated killing machines easily accessible to young men, and politicians using the internet to organize an attack on congress and the VP. Your side and it’s extreme supreme court is making sophisticated, killing machines easily accessible. 

    This is the country you wanted. Enjoy it
    Me taunting…You are joking right?? ….All I have ever gotten on here is taunts and shots by the Mob at my expense  since I lean more Rightious… Nice try, I play by the rules most of the time unlike many of  y’all.   Now stop making this personal and don’t respond when triggered. GOD BLESS THE USA!!! OUR country just got WOKE in a way that was needed.  MAHALO
    You do know the gunman was a republican, right?  

    And please, your “shots” aren’t righteous.  
    He was registered republican but had financially supported a democratic group. So I don’t think we really know what his political stance was yet.
    From what I read, he gave $15 to Act Blue when he was 17 years old. 
    Yes. And this is straight from their website:

    “ we’ve built a powerful online fundraising platform for Democratic candidates up and down the ballot, progressive organizations, and nonprofits. ”
    “ Our platform is available to Democratic candidates and committees, progressive organizations, and nonprofits that share our values”

    Not saying any of that is bad. But does that sound like something a republican would donate to? So, to me, it’s unclear what his political views and motives are. Simply being registered republican doesn’t mean much.

    But not donating to a dem supporting organization does? Care to retract your careless accusation? 
    Retract what? I said a few times we (at least I) don’t know anything yet as it pertains to political views and motives.  What’s to retract? You want me to retract that I don’t know?
    “That donating money was supporting something.” Or whatever you said that made the political donation more important than voter registration affiliation.

    I think I saw it reported there was a yellow cat on the roof too.
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,674
    edited July 15
    Biden
    shecky said:

    Trumps more composed after an assassination attempt then Joey with a full team of handlers and no pressure. America sees this to be truth. 
    trump is still gonna lose the election. he is going to continue to fan the flames after this, and it is going to turn more people off from him and the gop. 
    Well that sure is a interesting take, I don’t think most of the Orange man bad  CULT members would agree w/ you looking at social media…
    Here’s my take, TRUMP just got a whole hell of a lot  Stronger is so many ways…
    This weeks RNC is going to be a spectacle that will unite the Republican Party like never before, and the DNC is going to be one of the biggest Shitshow on earth!! Buckle up Shitcago, many Trump Deranged Syndromes will be heading your way…I say stand down and let them do what they always do in the name of JUSTICE…no sense getting any Cops hurt over Property and TDS…
    Awww, no mahalo? Gun violence got you down?
    Nope…But it’s obvious you are. If you take a shot at the Big Dog, you must not miss…Nice try
    Mahalo 

    It’s if you “come for the king, you best not miss.” Get it right…
    Post edited by Glorified KC on
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    mickeyrat said:

    The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator

    Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.

    A photomontage illustration of Donald Trump
    Illustration by The Atlantic. Sources: Anna Moneymaker / Getty; Rebecca Droke / AFP / Getty.
    July 14, 2024, 10:37 AM ET

    When a madman hammered nearly to death the husband of then–House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump jeered and mocked. One of Trump’s sons and other close Trump supporters avidly promoted false claims that Paul Pelosi had somehow brought the onslaught upon himself through a sexual misadventure.

    After authorities apprehended a right-wing-extremist plot to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Trump belittled the threat at a rally. He disparaged Whitmer as a political enemy. His supporters chanted “Lock her up.” Trump laughed and replied, “Lock them all up.”

    Fascism feasts on violence. In the years since his own supporters attacked the Capitol to overturn the 2020 election—many of them threatening harm to Speaker Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence—Trump has championed the invaders, would-be kidnappers, and would-be murderers as martyrs and hostages. He has vowed to pardon them if returned to office. His own staffers have testified to the glee with which Trump watched the mayhem on television.

    Now the bloodshed that Trump has done so much to incite against others has touched him as well. The attempted murder of Trump—and the killing of a person nearby—is a horror and an outrage. More will be learned about the man who committed this appalling act, and who was killed by the Secret Service. Whatever his mania or motive, the only important thing about him is the law-enforcement mistake that allowed him to bring a deadly weapon so close to a campaign event and gain a sight line of the presidential candidate. His name should otherwise be erased and forgotten.


    continues......



    This is a brilliant essay, and I urge everyone to read it.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,674
    Biden
    The problem is this is starting to become more of the norm.  This is NOT how we decide who gets elected in this country.  However, I can point a finger at Trump for making this more of the norm.



    “Nearly four in 10 of them agree that true American patriots may have to resort to violence to save the country, compared to only 7 in 10 of those who fully reject those views,” Jones said. “So we see this very consistent pattern where it's not nonexistent on the left, but it is something on the order of three times more prevalent on the right than on the left.”

    Some experts say Trump’s embrace of events on Jan. 6 has also likely resonated with some of his supporters who now have more permissive views of using violence for political ends.

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  • lindamarie73lindamarie73 Posts: 449
    shecky said:

    Trumps more composed after an assassination attempt then Joey with a full team of handlers and no pressure. America sees this to be truth. 
    trump is still gonna lose the election. he is going to continue to fan the flames after this, and it is going to turn more people off from him and the gop. 
    Well that sure is a interesting take, I don’t think most of the Orange man bad  CULT members would agree w/ you looking at social media…
    Here’s my take, TRUMP just got a whole hell of a lot  Stronger is so many ways…
    This weeks RNC is going to be a spectacle that will unite the Republican Party like never before, and the DNC is going to be one of the biggest Shitshow on earth!! Buckle up Shitcago, many Trump Deranged Syndromes will be heading your way…I say stand down and let them do what they always do in the name of JUSTICE…no sense getting any Cops hurt over Property and TDS…
    Awww, no mahalo? Gun violence got you down?
    Nope…But it’s obvious you are. If you take a shot at the Big Dog, you must not miss…Nice try
    Mahalo 

    It’s if you “come for the king, you best not miss.” Get it right…
    Sorry, that does have a better ring to it…I just came up w/ the Big Dog on my own.  Aloha 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,268
    Biden

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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,674
    Biden
    shecky said:

    Trumps more composed after an assassination attempt then Joey with a full team of handlers and no pressure. America sees this to be truth. 
    trump is still gonna lose the election. he is going to continue to fan the flames after this, and it is going to turn more people off from him and the gop. 
    Well that sure is a interesting take, I don’t think most of the Orange man bad  CULT members would agree w/ you looking at social media…
    Here’s my take, TRUMP just got a whole hell of a lot  Stronger is so many ways…
    This weeks RNC is going to be a spectacle that will unite the Republican Party like never before, and the DNC is going to be one of the biggest Shitshow on earth!! Buckle up Shitcago, many Trump Deranged Syndromes will be heading your way…I say stand down and let them do what they always do in the name of JUSTICE…no sense getting any Cops hurt over Property and TDS…
    Awww, no mahalo? Gun violence got you down?
    Nope…But it’s obvious you are. If you take a shot at the Big Dog, you must not miss…Nice try
    Mahalo 

    It’s if you “come for the king, you best not miss.” Get it right…
    Sorry, that does have a better ring to it…I just came up w/ the Big Dog on my own.  Aloha 

    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,482
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    shecky said:

    Trumps more composed after an assassination attempt then Joey with a full team of handlers and no pressure. America sees this to be truth. 
    trump is still gonna lose the election. he is going to continue to fan the flames after this, and it is going to turn more people off from him and the gop. 
    Well that sure is a interesting take, I don’t think most of the Orange man bad  CULT members would agree w/ you looking at social media…
    Here’s my take, TRUMP just got a whole hell of a lot  Stronger is so many ways…
    This weeks RNC is going to be a spectacle that will unite the Republican Party like never before, and the DNC is going to be one of the biggest Shitshow on earth!! Buckle up Shitcago, many Trump Deranged Syndromes will be heading your way…I say stand down and let them do what they always do in the name of JUSTICE…no sense getting any Cops hurt over Property and TDS…
    Awww, no mahalo? Gun violence got you down?
    Nope…But it’s obvious you are. If you take a shot at the Big Dog, you must not miss…Nice try
    Mahalo 



    Linda, you really need to have your posting privileges here revoked , at least in AMT. And now taunting the left with that absurd cartoon?

    good thing the shooter missed, because “sleepy Joe” would definitely have lost the election. That was another taunt from the right.

    You only come here to Express a form of violence by attacking people. You do not come here to discuss. 

    Your side wants violence. Your side constantly uses violent imagery and words to taunt the left. Your side overlooked the violence on January 6. Your side wants sophisticated killing machines easily accessible to 20 year old men. 

    The left does not want to live in a country like this with such sophisticated killing machines easily accessible to young men, and politicians using the internet to organize an attack on congress and the VP. Your side and it’s extreme supreme court is making sophisticated, killing machines easily accessible. 

    This is the country you wanted. Enjoy it
    Me taunting…You are joking right?? ….All I have ever gotten on here is taunts and shots by the Mob at my expense  since I lean more Rightious… Nice try, I play by the rules most of the time unlike many of  y’all.   Now stop making this personal and don’t respond when triggered. GOD BLESS THE USA!!! OUR country just got WOKE in a way that was needed.  MAHALO
    You do know the gunman was a republican, right?  

    And please, your “shots” aren’t righteous.  
    He was registered republican but had financially supported a democratic group. So I don’t think we really know what his political stance was yet.
    From what I read, he gave $15 to Act Blue when he was 17 years old. 
    Yes. And this is straight from their website:

    “ we’ve built a powerful online fundraising platform for Democratic candidates up and down the ballot, progressive organizations, and nonprofits. ”
    “ Our platform is available to Democratic candidates and committees, progressive organizations, and nonprofits that share our values”

    Not saying any of that is bad. But does that sound like something a republican would donate to? So, to me, it’s unclear what his political views and motives are. Simply being registered republican doesn’t mean much.

    But not donating to a dem supporting organization does? Care to retract your careless accusation? 
    Retract what? I said a few times we (at least I) don’t know anything yet as it pertains to political views and motives.  What’s to retract? You want me to retract that I don’t know?
    “That donating money was supporting something.” Or whatever you said that made the political donation more important than voter registration affiliation.

    I think I saw it reported there was a yellow cat on the roof too.
    I stand by what I said. Voter registration doesn’t mean much. And neither does one contribution. I never said it meant more. Just pointed out the only 2 things that were public knowledge (but Kat posted the donation wasn’t true, I haven’t followed up on that yet). 
    I’ll reserve judgment on what his motives and political views were until more facts are released. That seems like a pretty reasonable stance to me. 
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    Biden
    His political views are clearly anti-trump

    I'm not sure it really matters though.  
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    shecky said:

    Trumps more composed after an assassination attempt then Joey with a full team of handlers and no pressure. America sees this to be truth. 
    trump is still gonna lose the election. he is going to continue to fan the flames after this, and it is going to turn more people off from him and the gop. 
    Well that sure is a interesting take, I don’t think most of the Orange man bad  CULT members would agree w/ you looking at social media…
    Here’s my take, TRUMP just got a whole hell of a lot  Stronger is so many ways…
    This weeks RNC is going to be a spectacle that will unite the Republican Party like never before, and the DNC is going to be one of the biggest Shitshow on earth!! Buckle up Shitcago, many Trump Deranged Syndromes will be heading your way…I say stand down and let them do what they always do in the name of JUSTICE…no sense getting any Cops hurt over Property and TDS…
    Awww, no mahalo? Gun violence got you down?
    Nope…But it’s obvious you are. If you take a shot at the Big Dog, you must not miss…Nice try
    Mahalo 

    It’s if you “come for the king, you best not miss.” Get it right…
    Sorry, that does have a better ring to it…I just came up w/ the Big Dog on my own.  Aloha 
    Guessing you haven't read 'The Prince'...

    As a general theme, The Prince takes it for granted that immoral acts are justified if they can help achieve political glory.

    "Machiavelli is the only political thinker whose name has come into common use for designating a kind of politics, which exists and will continue to exist independently of his influence, a politics guided exclusively by considerations of expediency, which uses all means, fair or foul, iron or poison, for achieving its ends – its end being the aggrandizement of one's country or fatherland – but also using the fatherland in the service of the self-aggrandizement of the politician or statesman or one's party"

    Sound familiar? 
    ('Machiavellian' is not a compliment)
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:

    The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator

    Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.

    A photomontage illustration of Donald Trump
    Illustration by The Atlantic. Sources: Anna Moneymaker / Getty; Rebecca Droke / AFP / Getty.
    July 14, 2024, 10:37 AM ET

    When a madman hammered nearly to death the husband of then–House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump jeered and mocked. One of Trump’s sons and other close Trump supporters avidly promoted false claims that Paul Pelosi had somehow brought the onslaught upon himself through a sexual misadventure.

    After authorities apprehended a right-wing-extremist plot to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Trump belittled the threat at a rally. He disparaged Whitmer as a political enemy. His supporters chanted “Lock her up.” Trump laughed and replied, “Lock them all up.”

    Fascism feasts on violence. In the years since his own supporters attacked the Capitol to overturn the 2020 election—many of them threatening harm to Speaker Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence—Trump has championed the invaders, would-be kidnappers, and would-be murderers as martyrs and hostages. He has vowed to pardon them if returned to office. His own staffers have testified to the glee with which Trump watched the mayhem on television.

    Now the bloodshed that Trump has done so much to incite against others has touched him as well. The attempted murder of Trump—and the killing of a person nearby—is a horror and an outrage. More will be learned about the man who committed this appalling act, and who was killed by the Secret Service. Whatever his mania or motive, the only important thing about him is the law-enforcement mistake that allowed him to bring a deadly weapon so close to a campaign event and gain a sight line of the presidential candidate. His name should otherwise be erased and forgotten.


    continues......


    Peter Rosenburg must have read this as these were his very talking points this morning.  Glad he has original thought...
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    Biden
    It is sure easy to see the Russian propaganda pop up after an event like this. Almost immediately I was seeing TikToks and memes that the shooter was an Antifa member, that Biden had called off secret service protection, etc. 

    The people that immediately believe anything that pops up in their feed are as dangerous as the propaganda.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Biden
    So. No one has questions as to "how" the gunman was able to get up on that roof?
    or
    How there were eyewitnesses that saw the gunman go up there and told authorities about him?

    Incompetence at its finest!

    How easy is it to get at our leaders?  The world is watching....
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    Biden
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/us/video/gunman-trump-pennsylvania-rally-location-todd-digvid

    I think the biggest error here is that a secret service member wasn't on top of the roof that the shooter used. In hindsight it was clearly a monumental error but it makes no sense as to why that area would have been completely left open.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    edited July 15
    Biden
    So. No one has questions as to "how" the gunman was able to get up on that roof?
    or
    How there were eyewitnesses that saw the gunman go up there and told authorities about him?

    Incompetence at its finest!

    How easy is it to get at our leaders?  The world is watching....
    yeah...it's crazy. Witnesses saw the gunman moving from roof to roof. A cop climbed up and saw the guy...how was tRump still on that stage? I know the shooting probably happened fairly quickly but you have to think that the snipers would have been on the same frequency and alerted everyone.

    I have heard reports that they had to wait for the shooter to actually start shooting but I don't believe that shit.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Biden
    So. No one has questions as to "how" the gunman was able to get up on that roof?
    or
    How there were eyewitnesses that saw the gunman go up there and told authorities about him?

    Incompetence at its finest!

    How easy is it to get at our leaders?  The world is watching....
    yeah...it's crazy. Witnesses saw the gunman moving from roof to roof. A cop climbed up and saw the guy...how was tRump still on that stage? I know the shooting probably happened fairly quickly but you have to think that the snipers would have been on the same frequency and alerted everyone.

    I have heard reports that they had to wait for the shooter to actually start shooting but I don't believe that shit.
    We will no doubt get an edited report of this .

    My other take was WHY the president wasn't whisked away more diligently?  He was able to seize the moment and pump his fist?  

    He should have been body shielded and dragged off stage. The SS don't look elite here....
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,268
    Biden
    So. No one has questions as to "how" the gunman was able to get up on that roof?
    or
    How there were eyewitnesses that saw the gunman go up there and told authorities about him?

    Incompetence at its finest!

    How easy is it to get at our leaders?  The world is watching....
    yeah...it's crazy. Witnesses saw the gunman moving from roof to roof. A cop climbed up and saw the guy...how was tRump still on that stage? I know the shooting probably happened fairly quickly but you have to think that the snipers would have been on the same frequency and alerted everyone.

    I have heard reports that they had to wait for the shooter to actually start shooting but I don't believe that shit.
    We will no doubt get an edited report of this .

    My other take was WHY the president wasn't whisked away more diligently?  He was able to seize the moment and pump his fist?  

    He should have been body shielded and dragged off stage. The SS don't look elite here....
    the president was in delaware

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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    So. No one has questions as to "how" the gunman was able to get up on that roof?
    or
    How there were eyewitnesses that saw the gunman go up there and told authorities about him?

    Incompetence at its finest!

    How easy is it to get at our leaders?  The world is watching....
    Strong argument for roof control.

    Unfortunately, our Constitution protects the right to climb ladders and provides unfettered access to roofs.
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