The
Department of Homeland Security's cyber chief, who presided over an
elaborate election security effort guarding against foreign interference
and fraud, was ousted by President Donald Trump on Tuesday as part of a
continuing post-election purge of top national security officials.
Trump announced the dismissal in a tweet Tuesday night.
The
dismissal of Christopher Krebs, director of DHS's Cybersecurity and
Infrastructure Security Agency, follows the agency's declaration that
the general election was the most secure in U.S. history.
The
statement served as a pointed rebuke to a president who continues to
make unsubstantiated allegations of voting fraud while Trump's legal
team pursues multiple legal challenges in battleground states.
"There
is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed
votes, or was in any way compromised," the agency reported Thursday in
an assessment joined by a coalition of election security groups,
including the National Association of State Election Directors. "All of
the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper
records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each
ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and
resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of
any mistakes or errors."
Krebs
had been an outspoken defender of the nation's election security
apparatus in the months leading up to Election Day, even as Trump
repeatedly warned of massive fraud that never materialized.
Trump's
unsupported allegations gave life to conspiracy theories that Krebs'
agency sought to knock down by publicly calling out false claims on its
website.
Earlier this week, as states were
engaged in critical canvassing efforts, CISA seized on "rumor" that
election results could be changed by a single "bad actor."
"Robust
safeguards, including canvassing and auditing procedures, help ensure
the accuracy of official election results," the agency stated.
Before
his appointment as the first director of CISA, Krebs served as the DHS'
assistant secretary for Infrastructure Protection.
Afterward, Krebs moved to Microsoft focussing on the company's cybersecurity and technology policy.
Krebs joined DHS in March 2017, first serving as a senior adviser on cybersecurity and infrastructure protection.
In
his role as CISA director, Krebs was tasked with safeguarding national
cyber networks along with maintaining the country's essential operations
in the face of increasing attempts by foreign adversaries to disrupt
the government. The nation's vulnerability was made clear in 2016 when
Russia sought to undermine the general election.
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how does anyone know he's actually gay and not just someone who decided to dedicate his life to politics?
Well we don't actually KNOW... but he certainly shows some signs. And his move to Trump was awfully strange.
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strap in boys and girls......
GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine
GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine
GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine
saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch.
Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones. Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this. If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit! These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering. I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is. To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.
saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch.
Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones. Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this. If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit! These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering. I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is. To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.
yeah...it's frightening. And how do we reverse it? Is that even possible?
My wife has an old high school friend that kept sending her shit through FB messenger. Wife told her to stop because it was just insane bullshit (hunter biden shit before election, giuliani shit after). Her friend is super nice but just fucking stupid as hell. She actually tried to convince my wife to watch a youtube video she sent that described by the Biden admin was going to turn the USA into a socialist country.
I don't see a way out of this.
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Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,331
I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?
response?
I said..."oh Biden for sure...tRump is just trying to raise money and keep everyone fired up for the GA runoff"
He seemed a little surprised but then he asked if there were going to be any major tax changes which no one knows for sure.
People forget how tax changes work. Whenever a democrat gets elected they automatically think rates double on Jan 1
This is upsetting. I wish you would've said "What do you mean? Biden has already won."
I just dealt with a client in New Jersey. I had to ask him how long he was staying in his house and he goes "No plans on moving unless we elect another communist like Murphy next time around. Then I'm out." Wasn't even joking.
saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch.
Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones. Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this. If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit! These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering. I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is. To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.
It's actually surprising how many people that have advanced degrees in something generally respected as something for "smart" people* are really one-trick ponies. For example, Ben Carson is a brain surgeon. But he's no "brain surgeon." You have to respect his ability to get through med school but I don't generally respect his as a well-rounded intelligent person. I think a random "smart" person is just as likely to be drawn in by nonsense they want to believe as a random "average" person.
*Engineering, medicine, etc. And to be fair, these are challenging and do take a certain amount of intelligence to achieve and I probably could not have. But one's breadth of intelligence can be very narrow. I had two friends in college who were electrical engineering majors, both essentially straight-A students, and both now kicking ass professionally, I think. One is without question one of the five smartest people I know and is well-rounded with knowledge and interests. He could have literally been anything you can be via higher education. The other had amazing knowledge gaps and would not have been able to do things not math-based with a rigid answer (e.g., law). Is he smart? Sure. But, not in the same way the first guy is. I think he'd be much more likely than the first guy to be suckered in by some nonsensical propaganda (I'm not in touch with him).
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saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch.
Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones. Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this. If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit! These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering. I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is. To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.
yeah...it's frightening. And how do we reverse it? Is that even possible?
My wife has an old high school friend that kept sending her shit through FB messenger. Wife told her to stop because it was just insane bullshit (hunter biden shit before election, giuliani shit after). Her friend is super nice but just fucking stupid as hell. She actually tried to convince my wife to watch a youtube video she sent that described by the Biden admin was going to turn the USA into a socialist country.
I don't see a way out of this.
I've had more than one person tell me that I can't trust the media.... and now watch this You Tube video. They don't see the hypocrisy or irony
I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?
response?
I said..."oh Biden for sure...tRump is just trying to raise money and keep everyone fired up for the GA runoff"
He seemed a little surprised but then he asked if there were going to be any major tax changes which no one knows for sure.
People forget how tax changes work. Whenever a democrat gets elected they automatically think rates double on Jan 1
This is upsetting. I wish you would've said "What do you mean? Biden has already won."
I just dealt with a client in New Jersey. I had to ask him how long he was staying in his house and he goes "No plans on moving unless we elect another communist like Murphy next time around. Then I'm out." Wasn't even joking.
saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch.
Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones. Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this. If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit! These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering. I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is. To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.
yeah...it's frightening. And how do we reverse it? Is that even possible?
My wife has an old high school friend that kept sending her shit through FB messenger. Wife told her to stop because it was just insane bullshit (hunter biden shit before election, giuliani shit after). Her friend is super nice but just fucking stupid as hell. She actually tried to convince my wife to watch a youtube video she sent that described by the Biden admin was going to turn the USA into a socialist country.
I don't see a way out of this.
As the internet came about, it was obvious that there's just way more information than there ever used to be. But right behind that we came to realize that there's just way more disinformation. And that certainly isn't going away. How do you get millions of gullible people to not believe dishonesty that they really want to believe when that dishonesty is going to persist and probably grow in ways we haven't even thought of yet? Hell, it seems like yesterday that Fox News was the key creator of this. Now, they're kinda minor league by comparison.
So in short, neither do I.
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saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch.
Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones. Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this. If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit! These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering. I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is. To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.
i would almost put intelligence, or more specifically, the ability to get good grades in any given profession, and the ability to think critically, in two different pots.
i know a lot of people that were intensely good at school and their job, but applying that to societal or social situations.....doorknobs.
saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch.
Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones. Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this. If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit! These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering. I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is. To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.
i would almost put intelligence, or more specifically, the ability to get good grades in any given profession, and the ability to think critically, in two different pots.
i know a lot of people that were intensely good at school and their job, but applying that to societal or social situations.....doorknobs.
“The reason I know it wasn’t a clean election is because I’m an engineer and I look at the numbers and the numbers don’t lie”. Actually said to me this week. It was a walk away moment.
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Trump ousts Homeland Security cyber chief Chris Krebs, who called election secure
The Department of Homeland Security's cyber chief, who presided over an elaborate election security effort guarding against foreign interference and fraud, was ousted by President Donald Trump on Tuesday as part of a continuing post-election purge of top national security officials.
Trump announced the dismissal in a tweet Tuesday night.
The dismissal of Christopher Krebs, director of DHS's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, follows the agency's declaration that the general election was the most secure in U.S. history.
The statement served as a pointed rebuke to a president who continues to make unsubstantiated allegations of voting fraud while Trump's legal team pursues multiple legal challenges in battleground states.
More:Trump's new campaign: Flurry of election lawsuits in search of strategy, as Biden claims victory
More:Trump campaign's challenge of election results in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Arizona push US toward 'loss of democracy'
"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised," the agency reported Thursday in an assessment joined by a coalition of election security groups, including the National Association of State Election Directors. "All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors."
Krebs had been an outspoken defender of the nation's election security apparatus in the months leading up to Election Day, even as Trump repeatedly warned of massive fraud that never materialized.
Krebs was expecting to be fired as recently as last week, sources told POLITICO.
More:Iran, Russia obtained voter registration info to sow confusion in presidential election, US officials say
More:Russian hackers target U.S. computer systems; feds say elections data not compromised
Trump's unsupported allegations gave life to conspiracy theories that Krebs' agency sought to knock down by publicly calling out false claims on its website.
Earlier this week, as states were engaged in critical canvassing efforts, CISA seized on "rumor" that election results could be changed by a single "bad actor."
"Robust safeguards, including canvassing and auditing procedures, help ensure the accuracy of official election results," the agency stated.
Before his appointment as the first director of CISA, Krebs served as the DHS' assistant secretary for Infrastructure Protection.
Afterward, Krebs moved to Microsoft focussing on the company's cybersecurity and technology policy.
Krebs joined DHS in March 2017, first serving as a senior adviser on cybersecurity and infrastructure protection.
In his role as CISA director, Krebs was tasked with safeguarding national cyber networks along with maintaining the country's essential operations in the face of increasing attempts by foreign adversaries to disrupt the government. The nation's vulnerability was made clear in 2016 when Russia sought to undermine the general election.
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-challenges/2020/11/17/ea741372-28f6-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
well, ok then...
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Our country’s fucked.
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2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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response?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
He seemed a little surprised but then he asked if there were going to be any major tax changes which no one knows for sure.
People forget how tax changes work. Whenever a democrat gets elected they automatically think rates double on Jan 1
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
My wife has an old high school friend that kept sending her shit through FB messenger. Wife told her to stop because it was just insane bullshit (hunter biden shit before election, giuliani shit after). Her friend is super nice but just fucking stupid as hell. She actually tried to convince my wife to watch a youtube video she sent that described by the Biden admin was going to turn the USA into a socialist country.
I don't see a way out of this.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I just dealt with a client in New Jersey. I had to ask him how long he was staying in his house and he goes "No plans on moving unless we elect another communist like Murphy next time around. Then I'm out." Wasn't even joking.
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i know a lot of people that were intensely good at school and their job, but applying that to societal or social situations.....doorknobs.
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There are no kings inside the gates of eden
Are there any Vegas/betting odds on if Trump can pull off his coup/turn over election results?
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