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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,278
    Biden
    Sheldon Adelson’s Las Vegas Review-Journal twice endorsed Trump. Now it’s advising him to admit he lost. - The Washington Post


    Sheldon Adelson’s Las Vegas Review-Journal twice endorsed Trump. Now it’s advising him to admit he lost.

    Sheldon and Miriam Adelson await President Trumps arrival at a February campaign rally in Las Vegas Evan VucciAP
    Sheldon and Miriam Adelson await President Trump's arrival at a February campaign rally in Las Vegas. (Evan Vucci/AP)
    November 12, 2020 at 4:06 p.m. EST

    In October 2016, the Las Vegas Review-Journal was the first major newspaper to endorse then-candidate Donald Trump for president. While Trump “represents neither the danger his critics claim nor the magic elixir many of his supporters crave,” the editorial page wrote, he promised to disrupt the status quo in Washington by bringing a “corporate sensibility and a steadfast determination to an ossified Beltway culture."

    Four years later, the Review-Journal — owned by Trump supporter and Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson — is advising Trump that he did indeed lose the 2020 presidential race and that he should start cooperating with Joe Biden’s transition team.

    “President Donald Trump seeks to delay the inevitable,” reads the headline of the editorial, which appeared in print Thursday and published online Wednesday night. “It is too fitting that the Trump presidency concludes amid a babel of bluster and bravado,” the unbylined authors, representing the viewpoint of the paper’s management, wrote. “But the president does a disservice to his more rabid supporters by insisting that he would have won the Nov. 3 election absent voter fraud. That’s simply false.”

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    The editorial goes on to state that “there is no evidence” that fraud cost Trump the election, “no matter how much the president tweets the opposite and his supporters wish it so.”

    Other newspapers have also run editorials demanding Trump stop peddling mass fraud claims without evidence, but the advice from the Review-Journal drew attention well beyond Las Vegas in part because of Adelson’s ownership of the newspaper.

    The billionaire Las Vegas casino magnate, who stealthily bought the paper in December 2015, has been a steadfast Trump backer and the top Republican donor through the past two presidential election seasons. He and his wife, physician Miriam Adelson, poured $183 million into the 2020 cycle, including giving $75 million to a pro-Trump super PAC in late August. But Politico reported in August that Trump had a contentious phone call with Sheldon Adelson, in which the president criticized the billionaire for not doing enough to help his reelection.

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    Previously, the Trump White House had bestowed official accolades on the Adelsons, including the widely criticized move of giving Miriam Adelson a Presidential Medal of Freedom — the nation’s highest civilian honor — citing her philanthropy and research in narcotics addiction.

    This week’s Review-Journal editorial does sound a somewhat sympathetic tone to Trump, writing that his campaign is “within its rights” to ask for recounts and that Trump “faced an overtly hostile press” and an anti-Trump political establishment.

    But then it offered a reality check: “Mr. Trump lost this election because he ultimately didn’t attract enough votes and failed to win a handful of swing states that broke his way in 2016.”

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    “An electoral system that involves the participation of 150 million Americans will have its share of issues, but it’s an insult to reason and logic to argue that isolated irregularities constitute proof of a grand national conspiracy,” it continues. The editorial also noted one of the most obvious signs there wasn’t a national conspiracy to steal votes for Trump: Democrats underperformed in House races, and the Senate may very well remain in Republican control under Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

    The editorial acknowledged Trump is unlikely to stop fighting the results, but “he has nothing to lose” by cooperating with President-elect Biden’s transition team, and the former vice president “deserves the same consideration” offered to Trump in 2016 by then-President Barack Obama.

    The Review-Journal is the largest newspaper in Nevada, where the Trump campaign has claimed thousands voted improperly, while offering no credible evidence. Most news organizations projected on Saturday that Biden will win Nevada’s six electoral votes. As of Thursday, Biden leads Trump by more than 36,000 votes.

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    While a handful of newspapers endorsed Trump in 2016 prior to the Review-Journal, the Nevada newspaper was the first with a circulation of over 100,000 to do so. It also endorsed Trump in 2020.

    It’s unclear what role exactly Adelson played in this week’s editorial. (The newspaper’s publisher declined to comment). But a 2015 Review-Journal editorial explored how the editorial page could change after Adelson’s purchase, noting that the page has long had a libertarian/conservative tilt and presidential endorsements would probably not change.

    “Newspaper owners aren’t supposed to interfere with news content. But it’s perfectly appropriate for them to seize full control of the editorial page and steer the philosophy of their editorial board,” it said. “The Las Vegas Review-Journal’s editorial page can become his family’s personal soap box, if that’s what they want.”






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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    Biden
    Who's going to this....

    McEnany predicts 'quite large' turnout at 'Million MAGA March' in DC 
    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/525673-mcenany-expects-turnout-to-be-quite-large-at-million-maga-march
    The refuse fascism counter at BLM plaza is where the real real will be occurring...
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    Biden
    Lame Duck?  NAH... Lame Fuck.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,815
    Biden
    ikiT said:
    Who's going to this....

    McEnany predicts 'quite large' turnout at 'Million MAGA March' in DC 
    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/525673-mcenany-expects-turnout-to-be-quite-large-at-million-maga-march
    The refuse fascism counter at BLM plaza is where the real real will be occurring...
    And we'll all be super impressed by the futility of the "MAGA rally".  When it changes a vote, wake me.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    remember the maga boat rally where those boats sank?

    this will end up like that. 

    one of the armed ones may even shoot himself in the dick just to show these people he means business.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    shoot your own dick.

    to own the libs.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,297
    Biden
    Ouch!  :lol: 
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,278
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mickeyrat said:
    Meghan McCain is still a terrible person.  Like most conservatives, doesn't care how her party hurts other people.  Only gives a shit when it personally affects her life.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,278
    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Meghan McCain is still a terrible person.  Like most conservatives, doesn't care how her party hurts other people.  Only gives a shit when it personally affects her life.  

    maybe so, but only SHE could do that with freedom from consequences.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    Biden
    that's a fucking great meme
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,381
    Biden
    Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat supporters, I bet.

    https://apple.news/AIy-Put2vTmC29hvVTcqwyQ

    That is awful.  Those are very nice people.  I would have been arrested for beating the shit out of my neighbors if that happened at my home and I saw them or caught on video.  100%
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:


    Meghan McCain is still a terrible person.  Like most conservatives, doesn't care how her party hurts other people.  Only gives a shit when it personally affects her life.  
    If Trump hadn't been so awful to her father, she'd be all aboard the Trump Train.  I don't blame her for feeling how she does about him, but she's a relative away from being a Trumper.

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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    Biden
    For as much as we all romanticize John McCain now... he played a large part in turning the corner to Trumpism.  Him agreeing to the Sarah Palin clown show normalized and main-streamed a lunatic fringe of the Republican party.

    He was also a horrific war-hawk, the likes of which we have never seen.  
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    meghan is awful.

    awful people can still make some fire memes though.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,815
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    For as much as we all romanticize John McCain now... he played a large part in turning the corner to Trumpism.  Him agreeing to the Sarah Palin clown show normalized and main-streamed a lunatic fringe of the Republican party.

    He was also a horrific war-hawk, the likes of which we have never seen.  
    I disagree. While the Palin pick was a mistake,  he pushed back on the birth certificate nonsense publicly and directly.  There's a reason Trump hated McCain and it wasn't because he was at the Hanoi Hilton.  McCain very publicly rebuked Trump AND saved Obama care.  Being a hawk didn't engender him to Trump either. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,278
    Biden
     More than 130 Secret Service officers are said to be infected with coronavirus or quarantining in wake of Trump’s campaign travel
    By Carol D. Leonnig and Josh Dawsey

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-coronavirus-outbreak/2020/11/13/610eebcc-2539-11eb-8672-c281c7a2c96e_story.html



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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,649
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    For as much as we all romanticize John McCain now... he played a large part in turning the corner to Trumpism.  Him agreeing to the Sarah Palin clown show normalized and main-streamed a lunatic fringe of the Republican party.

    He was also a horrific war-hawk, the likes of which we have never seen.  
    I disagree. While the Palin pick was a mistake,  he pushed back on the birth certificate nonsense publicly and directly.  There's a reason Trump hated McCain and it wasn't because he was at the Hanoi Hilton.  McCain very publicly rebuked Trump AND saved Obama care.  Being a hawk didn't engender him to Trump either. 
    agreed
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    BIDEN

    FLIPS

    GEORGIA!!!

    FUCK YEAH!!!

    306 ELECTORAL VOTES!!
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    Biden
    BIDEN

    FLIPS

    GEORGIA!!!

    FUCK YEAH!!!

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Biden
    WE DID IT! WOO!
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    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    For as much as we all romanticize John McCain now... he played a large part in turning the corner to Trumpism.  Him agreeing to the Sarah Palin clown show normalized and main-streamed a lunatic fringe of the Republican party.

    He was also a horrific war-hawk, the likes of which we have never seen.  
    I disagree. While the Palin pick was a mistake,  he pushed back on the birth certificate nonsense publicly and directly.  There's a reason Trump hated McCain and it wasn't because he was at the Hanoi Hilton.  McCain very publicly rebuked Trump AND saved Obama care.  Being a hawk didn't engender him to Trump either. 
    agreed
    I have always liked McCain....but yeah, Mayday is right. Palin was such a fucking disaster. It accelerated the dumbing down of the republican party tenfold. 
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    Biden
    I do get there are a lot of admirable qualities with mccain too.  
  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,815
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    For as much as we all romanticize John McCain now... he played a large part in turning the corner to Trumpism.  Him agreeing to the Sarah Palin clown show normalized and main-streamed a lunatic fringe of the Republican party.

    He was also a horrific war-hawk, the likes of which we have never seen.  
    I disagree. While the Palin pick was a mistake,  he pushed back on the birth certificate nonsense publicly and directly.  There's a reason Trump hated McCain and it wasn't because he was at the Hanoi Hilton.  McCain very publicly rebuked Trump AND saved Obama care.  Being a hawk didn't engender him to Trump either. 
    agreed
    I have always liked McCain....but yeah, Mayday is right. Palin was such a fucking disaster. It accelerated the dumbing down of the republican party tenfold. 
    It was a big mistake, no doubt.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,916
    Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat supporters, I bet.

    https://apple.news/AIy-Put2vTmC29hvVTcqwyQ

    That is awful.  Those are very nice people.  I would have been arrested for beating the shit out of my neighbors if that happened at my home and I saw them or caught on video.  100%
    Yeah I’d beat her ass I don’t care if she’s a woman you threaten my kids I’m fighting you period!
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    For as much as we all romanticize John McCain now... he played a large part in turning the corner to Trumpism.  Him agreeing to the Sarah Palin clown show normalized and main-streamed a lunatic fringe of the Republican party.

    He was also a horrific war-hawk, the likes of which we have never seen.  
    I disagree. While the Palin pick was a mistake,  he pushed back on the birth certificate nonsense publicly and directly.  There's a reason Trump hated McCain and it wasn't because he was at the Hanoi Hilton.  McCain very publicly rebuked Trump AND saved Obama care.  Being a hawk didn't engender him to Trump either. 
    agreed
    I have always liked McCain....but yeah, Mayday is right. Palin was such a fucking disaster. It accelerated the dumbing down of the republican party tenfold. 
    People like Palin are the symptom, not the disease.  The GOP was already dumb, this is who they are. 
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