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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,773
    I'm sitting this one out
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    I think the CBC model has worked really well here in Canada.



    The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (French: Société Radio-Canada), branded as CBC/Radio-Canada, is a Canadian federal Crown corporation that serves as the national public broadcaster for both radio and television.[4] The English- and French-language service units of the corporation are commonly known as CBC and Radio-Canada, respectively.


    CBC is the oldest existing broadcasting network in Canada. The CBC was established on November 2, 1936.

    The CBC's federal funding is supplemented by revenue from commercial advertising on its television broadcasts.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation


    I think America would be well served to have a similar service.
    What do you consider NPR?
    Not nearly the scale, reach and influence of CBC. Comparatively speaking, think more BBC.
    Yeah but that's a consumer decision.  I bet NPR is available to 99% of the people.  I agree it's not the size of CBC but it's still there. 
    Yep. And if there's something we definitely don't want to model....

    https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-163.html
    I don't understand your point here.
    Canadian obscenity laws
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    Look at the polling, defund the CBC is fringe. CBC is just as much an institution here as single payer health care and hockey.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    Biden
    dignin said:
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    Look at the polling, defund the CBC is fringe. CBC is just as much an institution here as single payer health care and hockey.
    i know it's fringe. but i'm saying the crazy that is fringe here becomes mainstream down below. 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    mrussel1 said:
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    That's exactly what NPR and PBS are... federally funded news.  And the same shit from the right here on it. 
    They are not the same as CBC. We fund our public broadcaster waaaay more. PBS and NPR get a pittance, not nearly enough to be competitive in the market. NPR has a donate link on their main webpage, and that's a damn shame. 


    CBC's funding differs from that of the public broadcasters of many European nations, which collect a licence fee, or those in the United States, such as PBS and NPR, which receive some public funding but rely to a large extent on voluntary contributions from individual viewers and listeners. A Nanos Research poll from August 2014 conducted for Asper Media (National Post, Financial Post) showed 41% of Canadians wanted funding increased, 46% wanted it maintained at current levels, and only 10% wanted to see it cut.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    That's exactly what NPR and PBS are... federally funded news.  And the same shit from the right here on it. 
    i honestly didn't know NPR was funded, and PBS, yes, i suppose you're right, i just didn't think about it as you don't really have an equivalent (which was not your point, just saying). what we have would be like NBC being federally funded. (but again, i know that wasn't your point). 

    all that comes to mind when i think of pbs is telethons and lawrence welk. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    I think the CBC model has worked really well here in Canada.



    The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (French: Société Radio-Canada), branded as CBC/Radio-Canada, is a Canadian federal Crown corporation that serves as the national public broadcaster for both radio and television.[4] The English- and French-language service units of the corporation are commonly known as CBC and Radio-Canada, respectively.


    CBC is the oldest existing broadcasting network in Canada. The CBC was established on November 2, 1936.

    The CBC's federal funding is supplemented by revenue from commercial advertising on its television broadcasts.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation


    I think America would be well served to have a similar service.
    What do you consider NPR?
    Not nearly the scale, reach and influence of CBC. Comparatively speaking, think more BBC.
    Yeah but that's a consumer decision.  I bet NPR is available to 99% of the people.  I agree it's not the size of CBC but it's still there. 
    Yep. And if there's something we definitely don't want to model....

    https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-163.html
    I don't understand your point here.
    Canadian obscenity laws
    i still don't really understand your point. 
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  • dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    That's exactly what NPR and PBS are... federally funded news.  And the same shit from the right here on it. 
    They are not the same as CBC. We fund our public broadcaster waaaay more. PBS and NPR get a pittance, not nearly enough to be competitive in the market. NPR has a donate link on their main webpage, and that's a damn shame. 


    CBC's funding differs from that of the public broadcasters of many European nations, which collect a licence fee, or those in the United States, such as PBS and NPR, which receive some public funding but rely to a large extent on voluntary contributions from individual viewers and listeners. A Nanos Research poll from August 2014 conducted for Asper Media (National Post, Financial Post) showed 41% of Canadians wanted funding increased, 46% wanted it maintained at current levels, and only 10% wanted to see it cut.
    PBS and npr, and others, are funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. CPB is a quasi-governmental agency that receives appropriations from Congress and then divies up the money. Guess which political party drastically cut its budget and wanted to defund it completely?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,822
    Biden
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    That's exactly what NPR and PBS are... federally funded news.  And the same shit from the right here on it. 
    They are not the same as CBC. We fund our public broadcaster waaaay more. PBS and NPR get a pittance, not nearly enough to be competitive in the market. NPR has a donate link on their main webpage, and that's a damn shame. 


    CBC's funding differs from that of the public broadcasters of many European nations, which collect a licence fee, or those in the United States, such as PBS and NPR, which receive some public funding but rely to a large extent on voluntary contributions from individual viewers and listeners. A Nanos Research poll from August 2014 conducted for Asper Media (National Post, Financial Post) showed 41% of Canadians wanted funding increased, 46% wanted it maintained at current levels, and only 10% wanted to see it cut.
    PBS and npr, and others, are funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. CPB is a quasi-governmental agency that receives appropriations from Congress and then divies up the money. Guess which political party drastically cut its budget and wanted to defund it completely?
    Yes absolutely. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,822
    Biden
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    That's exactly what NPR and PBS are... federally funded news.  And the same shit from the right here on it. 
    They are not the same as CBC. We fund our public broadcaster waaaay more. PBS and NPR get a pittance, not nearly enough to be competitive in the market. NPR has a donate link on their main webpage, and that's a damn shame. 


    CBC's funding differs from that of the public broadcasters of many European nations, which collect a licence fee, or those in the United States, such as PBS and NPR, which receive some public funding but rely to a large extent on voluntary contributions from individual viewers and listeners. A Nanos Research poll from August 2014 conducted for Asper Media (National Post, Financial Post) showed 41% of Canadians wanted funding increased, 46% wanted it maintained at current levels, and only 10% wanted to see it cut.
    I'm not arguing the levels,  I'm just saying we have federal funding.  The reality is that's never been where the majority of Americans get their news,  even before the advent of 24 cable
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,656
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    That's exactly what NPR and PBS are... federally funded news.  And the same shit from the right here on it. 
    They are not the same as CBC. We fund our public broadcaster waaaay more. PBS and NPR get a pittance, not nearly enough to be competitive in the market. NPR has a donate link on their main webpage, and that's a damn shame. 


    CBC's funding differs from that of the public broadcasters of many European nations, which collect a licence fee, or those in the United States, such as PBS and NPR, which receive some public funding but rely to a large extent on voluntary contributions from individual viewers and listeners. A Nanos Research poll from August 2014 conducted for Asper Media (National Post, Financial Post) showed 41% of Canadians wanted funding increased, 46% wanted it maintained at current levels, and only 10% wanted to see it cut.
    PBS and npr, and others, are funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. CPB is a quasi-governmental agency that receives appropriations from Congress and then divies up the money. Guess which political party drastically cut its budget and wanted to defund it completely?
    Yes absolutely. 
    It's so sad...the GOP has convinced their chud that PBS is a liberal indoctrination channel.
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,878
    Biden
    No Fraud again. How many more times......?


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,565
    Kat said:
    No Fraud again. How many more times......?


    This is the guy who has already grifted 130K in a gofundme and is now going on record saying he did not take back his statement. Gotta keep that money flowing in I guess. 
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    Biden
    130k is the going rate...
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,580
    Kat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I have no doubt trump himself is expecting the result to change... but everyone around him knows

    They are just going through the motions to placate a fat spoiled child
    I think he knows....he's just using this to raise funds.  At some point they will get through to him that he is just damaging his legacy.  

    They will convince him that conceding will make a 2024 run possible and that he can claim glorious victory then.

    Hopefully by 2023 he will be damaged enough to just go away.


    There will be a whole wing of his library about how he FOUGHT for you, the true and real ‘Murica people and not those radical leftists “others” that stole PA and the election from him.
    His library has to have that Sharpie-doctored hurricane map on display too, right?
    Call me crazy, but "trump" and "library" don't belong in the same sentence!
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    Biden
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Kat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I have no doubt trump himself is expecting the result to change... but everyone around him knows

    They are just going through the motions to placate a fat spoiled child
    I think he knows....he's just using this to raise funds.  At some point they will get through to him that he is just damaging his legacy.  

    They will convince him that conceding will make a 2024 run possible and that he can claim glorious victory then.

    Hopefully by 2023 he will be damaged enough to just go away.


    There will be a whole wing of his library about how he FOUGHT for you, the true and real ‘Murica people and not those radical leftists “others” that stole PA and the election from him.
    His library has to have that Sharpie-doctored hurricane map on display too, right?
    Call me crazy, but "trump" and "library" don't belong in the same sentence!
    it'll be nothing but a bunch of archived tweets. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Biden
    Kat said:
    No Fraud again. How many more times......?


    SHOCKING!!!!
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Biden
    Man I can't wait for the next 4 years.  People on here arguing about policy again.  I was all in on Biden vs trump even though I don't like Biden.  So it should get fun around here again!!! no more of this all agreeing crap!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    Biden
    Man I can't wait for the next 4 years.  People on here arguing about policy again.  I was all in on Biden vs trump even though I don't like Biden.  So it should get fun around here again!!! no more of this all agreeing crap!
    we picking teams? who gets first pick?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Biden
    Man I can't wait for the next 4 years.  People on here arguing about policy again.  I was all in on Biden vs trump even though I don't like Biden.  So it should get fun around here again!!! no more of this all agreeing crap!
    we picking teams? who gets first pick?
    No idea, but I'm excited about the future around here!!!!  
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Biden
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Kat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I have no doubt trump himself is expecting the result to change... but everyone around him knows

    They are just going through the motions to placate a fat spoiled child
    I think he knows....he's just using this to raise funds.  At some point they will get through to him that he is just damaging his legacy.  

    They will convince him that conceding will make a 2024 run possible and that he can claim glorious victory then.

    Hopefully by 2023 he will be damaged enough to just go away.


    There will be a whole wing of his library about how he FOUGHT for you, the true and real ‘Murica people and not those radical leftists “others” that stole PA and the election from him.
    His library has to have that Sharpie-doctored hurricane map on display too, right?
    Call me crazy, but "trump" and "library" don't belong in the same sentence!
    it'll be nothing but a bunch of archived tweets. 
    This is true.  You will get a phone upon entering.  As you tour, you phone will read out the tweets (in english or russian, your choice)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    Kat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I have no doubt trump himself is expecting the result to change... but everyone around him knows

    They are just going through the motions to placate a fat spoiled child
    I think he knows....he's just using this to raise funds.  At some point they will get through to him that he is just damaging his legacy.  

    They will convince him that conceding will make a 2024 run possible and that he can claim glorious victory then.

    Hopefully by 2023 he will be damaged enough to just go away.


    There will be a whole wing of his library about how he FOUGHT for you, the true and real ‘Murica people and not those radical leftists “others” that stole PA and the election from him.
    His library has to have that Sharpie-doctored hurricane map on display too, right?
    Right next to the 2020 electoral college map which will show that he won all 75 of Montana’s electoral votes and all 50 of Wyoming’s.
    Post edited by OnWis97 on
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    dignin said:
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    Look at the polling, defund the CBC is fringe. CBC is just as much an institution here as single payer health care and hockey.
    i know it's fringe. but i'm saying the crazy that is fringe here becomes mainstream down below. 
    Unfortunately, I have to agree.

  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    Biden
    Man I can't wait for the next 4 years.  People on here arguing about policy again.  I was all in on Biden vs trump even though I don't like Biden.  So it should get fun around here again!!! no more of this all agreeing crap!
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    edited November 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    federally funded news in america would never fly. we get enough "defund the cbc" bullshit here from right wing nutters thinking it's an arm of trudeau (but magically, it wasn't for harper). 
    That's exactly what NPR and PBS are... federally funded news.  And the same shit from the right here on it. 
    They are not the same as CBC. We fund our public broadcaster waaaay more. PBS and NPR get a pittance, not nearly enough to be competitive in the market. NPR has a donate link on their main webpage, and that's a damn shame. 


    CBC's funding differs from that of the public broadcasters of many European nations, which collect a licence fee, or those in the United States, such as PBS and NPR, which receive some public funding but rely to a large extent on voluntary contributions from individual viewers and listeners. A Nanos Research poll from August 2014 conducted for Asper Media (National Post, Financial Post) showed 41% of Canadians wanted funding increased, 46% wanted it maintained at current levels, and only 10% wanted to see it cut.
    I'm not arguing the levels,  I'm just saying we have federal funding.  The reality is that's never been where the majority of Americans get their news,  even before the advent of 24 cable
    I don't disagree, and that's a shame because NPR and PBS are great.

    I just don't see publicly funded news as the boogie man, as long as it's kept at arms length. The for profit at any cost model can lead to obvious problems (news as entertainment as an example, Rupert Murdoch as another).
    Post edited by dignin on
  • NSLNSL Nashville, TN Posts: 295
    edited November 2020
    I'm sitting this one out


    Big LOL on this one.  What does this video prove?  I guess he's trying to cry about the state (appears to be California lol) being called early although there are tons of mail in/drop off ballots still left to gather.  This only proves that there are lots of these LEGAL ballots out there.  Any sane person would see this as a knock on Trumps crazy accusations of fraud.

    Not sure why the tweet wont show but it's the video Trump posted just a little while ago
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
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    He’s such an idiot and an absolute embarrassment.
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    mfc2006 said:
    He’s such an idiot and an absolute embarrassment.
    yes he is.  THERES THE DOOR
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,565
    NSL said:


    Big LOL on this one.  What does this video prove?  I guess he's trying to cry about the state (appears to be California lol) being called early although there are tons of mail in/drop off ballots still left to gather.  This only proves that there are lots of these LEGAL ballots out there.  Any sane person would see this as a knock on Trumps crazy accusations of fraud.

    Not sure why the tweet wont show but it's the video Trump posted just a little while ago
    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-la-ballots-idUSKBN27M236

    Why is it so hard for some people to understand the laws of each state and how they work. 
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